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On June 28 2012 12:55 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 12:51 GreYMisT wrote: Who do you intend to attack with this amazing kp?
... Are you doing this on purpose? ... Is this your version of trolling scum?
Was in the middle of dota and hadnt fully caught up. You really intened to attack me? with what very strained evidence you have?
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I mean tunnel me if you want gonzaw. but use your brain please. half your case is based on the fact that I trust myself more than others, and the other half is very poor. There are better targets in zealos today. You still have not given me your opinion that I have seen. (if you have it obviously did not make an impression).
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On June 28 2012 13:02 GreYMisT wrote: I mean tunnel me if you want gonzaw. but use your brain please. half your case is based on the fact that I trust myself more than others, and the other half is very poor. There are better targets in zealos today. You still have not given me your opinion that I have seen. (if you have it obviously did not make an impression).
And half your case on Zealos is "his stance on revealing decks changed".
Remember:
(X>Y →X more scummy than Y)
posting but not contributing > not posting
I'd say you are acting like in iGrok's game....but in that game you actually tried to at least pressure people regarding the game. More than 48 hours have passed in this one and the only meaningful thing you did was say "Nova seems town" and "I'll attack Zealos today because his performance was underwhelming, his stance on outing our decks was strange, and he's not helping".
That's it...and I'm not exagerating or anything here, I actually went through your filter and that's the only thing I found at all........in more than 48 hours.
I'd even say Fulla contributed more than you
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You could start by, I don't know, maybe posting your thoughts on at least one of the other 6 players you never mentioned at all?
Or maybe by actually discussing my plan and saying if you agree or disagree, explicitly telling us why so we create more discussion and make the best choice for town?
Anything actually, do anything and I'll be happy.
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Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything
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It isn't even the fact that you focus only on the setup (I focus most of my time here on the setup), but it's also the fact that you don't actually do anything setup-related. You just spouted some "advice", complained about people fearing your deck, and made your plays in secret, nothing else.
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On June 28 2012 13:42 Oberyn wrote: Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything
You sound like an excited puppy that just learned how to bark. you know that?
I did state my plan. I will play slivers and power up. That was during day 1.
Oh, and you still havn't told me your thoughts on zealos, you have only stated my thoughts on zealos.
I think you are maliciously ignoring things I say.
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On June 28 2012 13:56 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 13:42 Oberyn wrote: Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything You sound like an excited puppy that just learned how to bark. you know that?I did state my plan. I will play slivers and power up. That was during day 1. Oh, and you still havn't told me your thoughts on zealos, you have only stated my thoughts on zealos. I think you are maliciously ignoring things I say.
Real quickly I would like a vote in the thread of people who agree with the bolded above.
You may also contribute kita
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On June 28 2012 13:56 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 13:42 Oberyn wrote: Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything You sound like an excited puppy that just learned how to bark. you know that? I did state my plan. I will play slivers and power up. That was during day 1. Oh, and you still havn't told me your thoughts on zealos, you have only stated my thoughts on zealos. I think you are maliciously ignoring things I say.
I'm angry because you are acting all superior and patronizing me like if you were this mystical confirmed townie and I'm obviously doing something wrong for not figuring that out.
Oh yeah I forgot about the scummy reaction to my plan from your brother
Also there's nothing to say about Zealos, the guy was active for like 30 minutes tops and discussed pointless stuff.
I wouldn't mind policy attacking him though, take his health low enough so if we ever figure out he's mafia we can just kill him with 1 blow or something (or let scum waste their kill on him); or if he keeps lurking like this.
Also him putting out monsters with 0 power is infuriating (he can't attack anything....how useful for killing scum). So yeah if anybody is free to do anything you can just attack him, at least to take out those useless creatures and walls of his whose ONLY purpose is to block.
Zealos, if you have a creature with 0 attack points....then you better keep it in your hand and just not summon anything at all
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On June 28 2012 14:15 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 13:56 GreYMisT wrote:On June 28 2012 13:42 Oberyn wrote: Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything You sound like an excited puppy that just learned how to bark. you know that? I did state my plan. I will play slivers and power up. That was during day 1. Oh, and you still havn't told me your thoughts on zealos, you have only stated my thoughts on zealos. I think you are maliciously ignoring things I say. I'm angry because you are acting all superior and patronizing me like if you were this mystical confirmed townie and I'm obviously doing something wrong for not figuring that out. Oh yeah I forgot about the scummy reaction to my plan from your brother Also there's nothing to say about Zealos, the guy was active for like 30 minutes tops and discussed pointless stuff. I wouldn't mind policy attacking him though, take his health low enough so if we ever figure out he's mafia we can just kill him with 1 blow or something ( or let scum waste their kill on him); or if he keeps lurking like this. Also him putting out monsters with 0 power is infuriating (he can't attack anything....how useful for killing scum). So yeah if anybody is free to do anything you can just attack him, at least to take out those useless creatures and walls of his whose ONLY purpose is to block. Zealos, if you have a creature with 0 attack points....then you better keep it in your hand and just not summon anything at all
Im not, Im frustrated because you accuse people of inactivity, where all it is is you post so freaking much back to back, than we are all drawfed by comparison. Imagine in real life if we were at a table and you ran around talking like this. I would slap you. Some of us like to sit back and think about things going on before we start polluting the thread.
Anyway, Don't you think its a bit weird that he only logged on for a bit and discussed pointless stuff? In my eyes he is a lurker, and a scummy one at that.
And why on earth would scum waste their KP on a person who is inactive and at low life? you arnt really putting much thought into this zealos thing are you?
I'm done dealing with this for tonight. be on tomorrow afternoon.
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On June 28 2012 14:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 14:15 Oberyn wrote:On June 28 2012 13:56 GreYMisT wrote:On June 28 2012 13:42 Oberyn wrote: Oh yeah, you could also tell us wtf you are doing with your Slivers and what you expect to do (for instance telling us what else is in your hand and why you chose to play that Necrotic Silver instead of something else) with it other than just "put things out in the field just because"; and why you decided to make your whole play 1 second into this day instead of waiting.
Or telling us what you think of the play of other people and if you agree/disagree find something interesting to say or find something they can do in coordination with someone else to help town win this game
Again, anything You sound like an excited puppy that just learned how to bark. you know that? I did state my plan. I will play slivers and power up. That was during day 1. Oh, and you still havn't told me your thoughts on zealos, you have only stated my thoughts on zealos. I think you are maliciously ignoring things I say. I'm angry because you are acting all superior and patronizing me like if you were this mystical confirmed townie and I'm obviously doing something wrong for not figuring that out. Oh yeah I forgot about the scummy reaction to my plan from your brother Also there's nothing to say about Zealos, the guy was active for like 30 minutes tops and discussed pointless stuff. I wouldn't mind policy attacking him though, take his health low enough so if we ever figure out he's mafia we can just kill him with 1 blow or something ( or let scum waste their kill on him); or if he keeps lurking like this. Also him putting out monsters with 0 power is infuriating (he can't attack anything....how useful for killing scum). So yeah if anybody is free to do anything you can just attack him, at least to take out those useless creatures and walls of his whose ONLY purpose is to block. Zealos, if you have a creature with 0 attack points....then you better keep it in your hand and just not summon anything at all Im not, Im frustrated because you accuse people of inactivity, where all it is is you post so freaking much back to back, than we are all drawfed by comparison. Imagine in real life if we were at a table and you ran around talking like this. I would slap you. Some of us like to sit back and think about things going on before we start polluting the thread.
WBG, Promethelax and Nova would beg to differ. I have strong town reads on those and some of their filters are even smaller than yours (even taking out your pre-game talk)
Anyway, Don't you think its a bit weird that he only logged on for a bit and discussed pointless stuff? In my eyes he is a lurker, and a scummy one at that.
Yeah, so? He's a lurker yes, but just that. He hasn't done anything related to the game when he was active, so we can't held him accountable for that. He has to come back at some point, if not then we should punish him for it (by weakening his useless creatures and maybe taking down his health).
I'm not saying Zealos is townie, I'm saying you are scum, those are not equivalent statements. You can't convince me you are town by convincing me Zealos is scum, it doesn't work that way.
And why on earth would scum waste their KP on a person who is inactive and at low life? you arnt really putting much thought into this zealos thing are you?
I dunno, why does it matter?
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Hi, I like sleep, apologies for not being here, I revealed my avatar for 2 reasons: the threat of a large trample monster if someone spammed too many creatures or attacked me, and secondly the chance that some good situation like this could come up. Of course, I have no objections to playing my avatar ( isn't he cute) as I would be in control of an 8/8 trampler. Obyren is town so that's fine too. My deck doesn't scale much from here so no reason to want to prolong my life by not playing it. However, this will piss a couple of you off, but I will not agree to a vote as to what the avatars do, at least mine. Obyren can choose whatever he wants with his. Why? I currently value the opinions of some over others, for instance that of Obyren or wbg to prome's or s&b's. Is this more dangerous to the town? Not really, you still have multiple aether spell bombs out that I don't control, and I know they will be used if I do anything aside from intelligent from a town perspective. Then I die. Also there's the fact that mafia will hit me this next attack phase. As someone said, they're not leaving around anything stronger than the mafias own beast for the sake of calling wifom. I will be hit today, then one of Obyren or myself will die followed by the other unless I draw a certain card which will both buff my avatar and heal someone else. So Obyren and I will only be around for another 3-4 turns tops. For this turn I would want 1 avatar to attak grey and 1 to attack zealos. I think 1 of them is scum.
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Also I thing sitting back and thinking about opinions is bullshit truthfully, opinions and thoughts should be stated as soon as they are thought of, they should be raw and unrefined and can be explained later. That's more chances for scum to slip up and townieness to shine. I still don't think that shitting up the threa is a bad thing unless there is endless filler.
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Lastly from Saturday until next weekend I will be at a friends lake house in Italy, however the Internet there only works some of the time. I will post as much as I can from my phone while I am there.
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Okay then, Zealos and Fulla are the only ones that need to report before starting this. If you won't be around too long and these 2 haven't shown up then perhaps you should follow the previous plan anyways and give me/Nova the mana before leaving, that way we won't be waiting hours and hours for you to come back to summon the 8/8 beasts
For this turn I would want 1 avatar to attak grey and 1 to attack zealos. I think 1 of them is scum.
The Avatar doesn't have haste (...right?). Only the monsters from T1 can attack, and all of those have 1 power only >_>
Nova, what are your specific thoughts on Grey?
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I meant for the first turn they could attack I don't understand why grey doesn't tell us anything other than "I make slivers and I get powerful" as a plan and the filler is really damn annoying.
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Sorry guys I came home at 8pm and crashed out in bed, for 12 hours. Busy week.
Nova has been a bit harsh to me, but my noob senses are giving a town read, I'm happy to contribute mana for his beast and to the other one.
In my hand I have this I can cast, to deal 6 damage to somebody THIS TURN:
![[image loading]](http://magic4sale.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/ball_lightning.jpg)
I also have this which will let me to build up and deal greater damage in future turns:
![[image loading]](http://static.starcitygames.com/www/images/article/09042009erwin1a.jpg)
If you are unhappy with the beast ideas, you can give me mana and I can do both of the above, crippling a target player. However I don't think our scum reads are good enough yet for such an all in strat?
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On June 28 2012 16:34 Fulla wrote: ##cast mountain
I swear to got I almost killed you
When I saw you posting in the Board thread before doing it here.....I immediately thought "this guy just tapped some land, I'm sure of it". Damn you gave me quite a scare! I assume you are reading the thread now (yeah I did the same thing, I casted the Island while I was making the post that explained it)
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I've cast a mountain, I'm favoring casting electopence and giving 1 spare mana to the town pool.
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On June 28 2012 16:39 Fulla wrote: I've cast a mountain, I'm favoring casting electopence and giving 1 spare mana to the town pool.
Ball Lightning has haste too right?
Hmm...we need all the mana we can. So far there are only 4 extra mana we can use (if we summon both beasts); so we would need to waste 3 of them on your card.
Although...hmmm, if you play Electropence this turn for instance, and next turn you have 6 mana....then you can summon Ball Lightning, use Electropence to deal 6 damage to scum, then attack scum with Ball Lightning, dealing 6-12 damage in 1 attack, only for 6 mana.
That seems pretty good actually, I'll wait to see what others think.
Also, you can't cast Electropence AND give town 1 mana, since that would require 4 mana and you don't have that. It would be better if you give all 3 mana to "town pool" (at least in theory, of course nobody actually gives mana to other players until after everything is planned), and then we (town as a whole....well at least the townies guys in it >_> ) can decide to give you 3 mana (practically you'd keep your 3 mana yourself).
Okay, I've heard these 2 "additional" plans (that work along side the 2 8/8 beast-summoning one): 1)Give WBG 3 mana to summon his 4/4 Myr (does this have a special ability or something? I forgot. Does it get support from other "Myr" cards or something?) 2)Give Fulla 3 mana to cast Electropence, so next turn he can make an Electropence+Ball Lightning combo for a potential 12 damage (if we get him 6 mana tomorrow somehow); or just use Ball Lightning now for potential 6 damage
What do you guys prefer? Also anybody else have a wicked card/play that we could do additionally?
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