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On July 03 2012 05:12 marvellosity wrote: god I want Kurumi to die so much as long as he makes sense he can live  Anybody got any clue on what he is trying to convey? | ||
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On July 03 2012 05:30 Kurumi wrote: We are running on sun batteries. I have some power to spare to apologize for my associates not working as intended. I think they're trying to hint something and show their suspicion on someone. My mind is a lot clearer than before. Broodking will hopefully start playing better. Marvellosity your push was weird, considering we've traded a lurker for a lurker, I did not notice mk did not vote, maybe that was a better course of action anyway. Screw you layabout, in this freakshow you were one of people I had slight town read on. Beep. Is this the "clear" version of your posts before? | ||
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On July 03 2012 05:35 NoSmurfHere wrote: Guess not! Better that they're dead now though, wastes less time later. I think my list from before is still a good bet. Would you care to elaborate on reasons why you want to off the people? | ||
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Barring delayed counterclaims ghost should be confirmed town by now. While I would agree on a Katina-lynch, my topread would be Hyaach: We are way into day 2 and he is doing nothing. His vote day 1 was bandwagoning twice (first mk then a ninjavote on fox). Also this quote is nice: On July 01 2012 17:21 Hyaach wrote: Actually no. BKE List your FoS and suspicions right now. Your filter is really bad so far. Help town to help yourself. You have an OMGUS vote and no case. You are actually the best lynch for today. So BKE should list his reads since his filter is looking bad. Now take a look at hyaach's filter He outright refuses to share his opinion twice now: On July 02 2012 20:15 Hyaach wrote: to you? no thanks. On July 03 2012 12:30 Hyaach wrote: I've not made excuses. lol you have a case of tunnel vision here. Why not go hunt some of the people that jumped your vote instead? On July 03 2012 12:32 Hyaach wrote: I've actually stayed out of the mud sling last night and maintain a clear view. If you want a case, I'll do one. So what makes him the special snowflake that is allowed to stay out of sharing reads? ##vote: Hyaach Maybe that will make him more talkative | ||
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On July 03 2012 22:06 Hyaach wrote: EBWOP ShaoPi, you have no right to be calling me to make cases btw, your filter are all easy to make post, fluffs and general post asking for response. You sound like a scum Maju so far. All question no stance. So your best way to defend yourself is discredit me without much proof. Nice one. Also this: On July 03 2012 22:24 Hyaach wrote: my list Mattchew Katina ShaoPi KtheZ KK done. Care to elaborate? Especially wtf is Kthez doing on the list who is replaced and dead. | ||
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I am much more willing to lynch hyaach. | ||
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It looks like nobody is willing to lend me a hand with hyaach as the focus switched to twelve/Vivax/Katina. My opinion on Vivax remains the same, he is doing his usual erratic annoying townie play, so I believe we would get a mislynch if he ends up with the most votes (can't blame you for hanging him though) I'll do some rereading on twelve and katina's past games, before giving my opinion on them | ||
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I skimmed through the filters of the two games posted in this thread and honestly I could not make out that much of a difference, rereading her filter here does yield some scummy things which stand out such as the reasonless bandwagoning, on the other hand she seems really busy and I would say that we can lynch other people for this day and leave her for later if she continues to not contribute. Twelve: I am unsure what to make of him, he joins the BKE bandwagon and the foxtrotter one without much explanation, the whole story with his rl buddy seems weird and out of place as he could have simply delievered his reasons for the switch instead of (potententially) making up a strange story, which we are supposed to believe. His whole derpage during night looks like a newbie townie, but why would he accuse someone of godfather then? His disapperance since then is just baffling, no idea what to make of it. A lynch on twelve would probably be as effective as the foxtrotter one was, he is a scummy lurker, but his lynch feels like flipping a coin. The Target I still want to lynch is hyaach: He apparently is following the thread but only gets active when it is needed (voting or being called out). So he is pretty much lurking with an aim. His refusal to contribute and participate in discussion in unsettling to me, since he just vanished yet again. | ||
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On July 04 2012 07:30 NoSmurfHere wrote: Given that Shiaopi gave two unsure verdicts on Katina and Twelve and then a scum verdict on a third player who looks the same as the first two, I'd say Hyaach is a bad lynch. Literally Shiaopi says he doesn't know what to make of Twelve's disappearance but Hyaach's disappearance makes him scum. Dafak? Let's kill katina or Shiaopi today. Acro what do you think? Hyaach is simply being actively anti-town by not doing anything if not called to do it. That is what makes me think of him as scum in difference to the other two candidates I gave my opinion on. | ||
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Twelve is just unreadable to me. I would see him as newbie town based on his posts but intentions behind it look like scum, so I said it feels like a coinflip to me. Hyaach in comparison reacts aggressively to being called out and even says: "I have no reason to participate, screw you" I probably should have added a housekeeping post that BKE is improving in my opinion on his posting and that I am still closely looking when he posts, but am moving to hyaach as the target of active pursuit. To the agreement stuff, where did I actually say I agree with BKE on that and that thing? The only thing I can see is that he seems willing to lynch hyaach now, where I was actually the first to really pressure him. | ||
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On July 04 2012 07:53 NoSmurfHere wrote: Cool, that's a reasonable answer from Vivax. Now, everyone read this: Shiaopi says he "would" read him as newbie town based on his posts (which ones? What parts of his posts?) but that his intentions seem scummy. Wait what? If the intentions seem scummy then...wouldn't you call him scum? Now note how he says Hyaach reacts. He says Hyaach reacts aggressively. That's a TOWN TELL. Okay looks like I need to post more clearly to stop you from tunneling me wrongly. Regarding Twelve: Scummy posts: + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 15:31 Twelve wrote: My initial thoughts are to be suspicious of Kurumi. He takes three posts to say very little, seeming to want to contribute without actually offering anything. I also agree that BroodKingEXE is suspicious for the same reasons, a long ranting post on a topic that he didn't seemed concerned about before the game started. I'm going to read the thread a bit more... just my initial thoughts. -Twelve is parroting the general sentiment of the thread and ninjavotes BKE Not quoting the whole godfather derpfest On July 02 2012 04:55 Twelve wrote: @Mattchew haha where to start... My first post that you quote was from before the game even started, so it probably shouldn't be taken to seriously. I simply don't know anyone here and was trying to start a conversation. The fact that you see a contradiction is also puzzling I can sort of see how it could be misinterpreted that I was saying "I am all for the hatred of bandwagons" but thats not what I was saying. In fact I was saying the opposite, I was asking to be clued in so I could join a bandwagon, but this was largely a joke. Suffice to say, anything I said before the game officially started probably shouldn't concern town too much. I do take issue with your use of the word band wagon though, upon reading the thread I found both BKE and Kurumi extremely suspicious, regardless of other players posts, and made my thoughts known. BKE says alot while conveying extremely little actual information, appearing to be helpful but really just mixing the pot. Kurumi writes long winded, somewhat schizophrenic sounding poems to his co-workers that are about as informative as a fortune cookie. I don't to see a vote count or FOS: BKE FOS:Kurumi for my brain to begin forming conclusions. As for the cutesy yuck bit, he seemed pretty angry that I would vote in the vote in the voting thread without warning him, so I tried to keep things light  (read: I wrote something much ruder but thought better of it and decided to kill him with niceness :D)As far as calling out casualman, I tried very hard to think of any strategic reason a town would vote for themselves and I could think of none. I had the same issue with VE voting for himself, but voted unvoted in the same post, sort of like lowering and raising a supply depot while you wait for your rax to build i guess, so I really don't have a problem with it going under the radar. -Still no real explanation of his vote, but wall of text Townie posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 03 2012 06:49 Twelve wrote: How do i know NoSmurfHere is town? I'm just posting my thoughts, what have you done for town so far? On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? -Calling out BKE for pretending to contribute. On July 02 2012 05:49 Twelve wrote: I'm not sure how my reasoning would be considered random. I explained why I thought the 2 people that I thought. You seem much more concerned with meta gaming then focusing on the game you in right now. Saying that someone is scum in 90% of past games shows that you are behaving irrationally, emotionally, or just plain being disruptive. As well as a deficiency in statistical analysis -Sticking to (his arguably) weak reasoning in spite of critique. I am bad at phrasing it out but what I want to convey is that he is giving me newb town vibes from his posting but one could interpret scummy intention behind it. Therefore it is not out of the realm of possibilty for him to flip scum, but I doubt it. on hyaach Since when is reacting aggressively a surefire towntell? Wouldn't a townie be happy to lay out his reasoning and reads if it helps town? What I was referring to was e.g. this quote: On July 02 2012 20:15 Hyaach wrote: to you? no thanks. Was his answer to my question regarding his reads/opinions. Or the following: On July 03 2012 12:32 Hyaach wrote: I've actually stayed out of the mud sling last night and maintain a clear view. If you want a case, I'll do one. Why do we have to request a case from someone who should be making cases as it is part of his wincon to get mafia lynched? The open hostility in his posts simply make it hard for me to believe that he is town. | ||
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Maybe it is playing out the newb card but I am finding it really difficult to make sure reads in a large game with 20+ players on everyone. Sorry that I am not that good. Oh yeah, Vivax stop sheeping, it does not fit your meta as town Well go ahead an lynch me, I will flip VT. | ||
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Well I just noticed that you had done nothing D1 and built a case upon it. Sucks to be me I guess | ||
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Never played scum. Town games: NMM XIII http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334707 NMM XIV http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337671 NMM XV http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340298 NMM XVI http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342960 Maybe they will help you find something. I am off to bed | ||
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@NSH: I'll explain my vote on hyaach again. I used the term "aggressive" on BM as in he is throwing around suspicions wildly with not much more than a hunch. Now to hyaach's aggression, I was only asking him on his opinions/reads and he responds with a straight out "no, don't like you" and when other people also ask him he goes "why should I share a case?". It is just unfathomable to me why he does not want to share with town. I also defended vivax since I know from experience that he might be an "easy" mislynch (did that already), so at least to me there is enough reason to defend him. @Katina/Twelve: Why do you want to lynch the useless troll? Won't give us anything besides flipping a coin on alignment. | ||
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