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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 01 2012 09:39 GMT
#450
mkmkmk is a lynch I would be okay with as well, but BKE is still higher in priority, looking at his filter since he came back is just a bunch of responding to the people who dropped their vote on him. No attempts at scumhunting, besides an attack on katina, but he does not even change his vote from casualman or drop an fos.

I say just shoot into mkmkmk if he does not come back before deadline and be done with him.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 01 2012 09:55 GMT
#453
Kurumi am I reading it right that you want to lynch mkmkmk (the "milkman" lol) and have a townie read on BKE?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 01 2012 22:56 GMT
#586
Just read through the stuff that happened while I was away.


Well looks like it is going to be a mkmkmk lynch. To me it seems like we sadly have a large amount of players not really actively playing/contributing at all. (e.g. foxtrot, drwiggles, casualman), which makes a clear lynchtarget pretty hard to get since our scummy lurker category is way too big.

A lynch on mkmkmk is okayish I guess, from the bunch of not-contirbuting lurkers his switch in attitude stands out as pointed out by ET.

Still I think we would be better off lynching BKE. The lynch on one of the lurkers is pretty much a gamble in my opinion as they could just as well be desinterested/busy townies.If you look closely at BKE you will quite easily see something missing from his filter: Scumhunting

Since he got called out he has done close to 0 contribution. All the time just posting tidbits on the people who voted him. No scumhunting and layabout already phrased that correctly:

On July 02 2012 06:51 layabout wrote:
If you read through Broodking's post's you may notice that he is not very concerned about who we lynch so long as it isn't him.
He keeps jumping into argument's and telling us not to kill him rather than telling us what he thinks about other players. He put more effort into telling us he isn't a noob than he put into his vote.


I already told him to well start contributing and sharing reads but nothing there.
No chance to make a switch happen onto him?

LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 01 2012 23:56 GMT
#637
I kind of ignored it since he falls into my scummy lurker category (just as mkmkmk, grush, drwiggles etc.) so I actually do not really mind if either of those (mk or fox in this case) gets lynched.
It is okay with me, but I prefer a lynch on BKE, so sorry won''t switch.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 00:00 GMT
#642
Aren't we on plurality lynch? So first to 7 in this case gets lynched?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#653
On July 02 2012 09:03 Vivax wrote:
Shiao, I'll just let you know that I don't like your posts.

Whatever you do,I'll be watching.


Well good to know I guess?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 01:04 GMT
#683
duh.
nice flavor post though.
Off to bed
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 10:39 GMT
#752
Sooo just caught up on the thread, let's see:

@Acrofales:
Your case on Vivax does have merit, but sadly I would say that he is town. I played with him two newbie games, one in which he was scum and one in which he was town. His play here is pretty much a "logical" fit of his townplay. (look at NMM XV, where I more or less led his mislynch). his scum play is much more cautious and lurky than what he is doing right now (NMM XVI for reference). I am by no means happy about his playstyle but it looks town.

@Mandalor:
I actually think we should wait for the nighthit and some discussion before agreeing on a lynch for d2. It gives more information we can work on. And I do not like the idea of flipping yet another coin with a lurker lynch (which is most of Mattchews list).

@drwiggles:
You are making no sense at all. Seriously what the hell have you been doing the whole day cycle? You had only 3 posts, which accumalte to zero content and a badly explained vote on the bandwagon that was at the time on BKE. Now come night you just burst in and throw suspicion on the people who have contributed. If you disliked the lynch on fox why didn't you say so and actively tried to prevent it? Oh wait, you were actively lurking....
Also your fixation on lynching mattchew for "information" is really unsettling, goal of the game is to lynch scum...
There are a lot of logical gaps in your posts and the whole matter of coming in after the lynch and just gunning for someone is something I really dislike.

FoS: drwiggl3s

@casualman

On July 02 2012 18:38 casualman wrote:
I propose no talking during the night


Like seriously? Stop trolling and do something for a change.

@Vivax:
I do not agree on your read on marv, sure he led a mislynch, but being wrong is no scumtrait. Also the way it unfolded marv looked really town just go and check his filter.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 10:49 GMT
#755
Well, your inactivity would have looked a lot better if you say so beforehand, you know, establishing credibilty and stuff.
Now onto mattchew. His list generated discussion for town, which is good and also neatly piled up all the "scummy lurkers", which was a good thing. Why are you so intent on lynching for information?
Mattchews line about "deserving" I interpreted as simply one lurker down, if he had been interested in this game he might have defended himself? A mislynch on a townie is bad but foxtrot did nothing that helped town, so it is kind of "deserving" as anti-town play is especially play we want to make out and eliminate, so to me there is nothing wrong with that quote.

Your conclusion that if mattchew dies all ppl on the list are town is just wrong. Bussing has always happened and will always continue to happen.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 10:49 GMT
#756
On July 02 2012 19:44 Hyaach wrote:
hi guys catching up on thread. seems FT lynch didnt turn out so well.


Why did you ninjavote him?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 10:55 GMT
#758
On July 02 2012 19:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 19:39 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Vivax:
I do not agree on your read on marv, sure he led a mislynch, but being wrong is no scumtrait. Also the way it unfolded marv looked really town just go and check his filter.


'Being wrong is no scumtrait'.

What kind of generalization is that. There were no good objective reasons to kill foxtrotter, and I kept asking marv about his reasons.

He wasn't just wrong with his bad 'read', he also openly refused to justify his case by insulting me whenever I asked him something.

And I'm writing this to town players, not to ShiaoPi.




It is a generalization, which I learned by myself for being wrong (remember heist in NMM XVI?).

Read this:

On July 02 2012 07:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Alright Matt. But you know how I felt about your posting in MTG :>

looks to me like Foxtrotter or mkmkmkmk.

On July 02 2012 03:40 Foxtrotter wrote:
Sorry i haven't posted yet ladies and gentles was a little busy and had to catch up.
I've read through the thread and my opinion is that everything mK has done (or lack of) up to this point seems scummy.
The fact that he has not defended him self is extremely unsettling to me. (I hope that nothing personal has happened.)


With his comment of however,

On June 30 2012 10:12 mKmKmK wrote:
On June 30 2012 10:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I am a Role Name.

how quaint.

vague post is vague...



I am pretty comfortable voting for him on D1.

##vote mK


This post makes me feel icky. Apologies for being absent, votes for mkmkmkmk for making a post - doesn't even say why the post is bad - and then continues to be absent.


Because I love myself so much, I'm quoting myself.

Can we make a Foxtrotter lynch happen? The post really screams newbie scum MO all over it. Apologising for absence, and then the excuses for voting mkmkmk - calls him a lurker basically "everything mK has done (or lack of)" despite doing even less himself. Then posts a random post of mk's like this is damning evidence.

Everything about it feels like it's a scumbie who feels they have to post and doing so by appearing to try to contribute. But the whole post is actually devoid of anything.

##Vote: Foxtrotter


And tell me that is "no reason" to lynch somebody, and if you cba to read marv, I'll put it shortly:
-lurking
-calling out a lurker and voting him, while doing nothing else himself
-simple sheeping
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:06 GMT
#761
Any possible lynch besides BKE was pretty much based on scummy lurker behaviour...
All of you claiming the lynch on foxtrotter was that bad, why didn't you show some more activity to prevent it them?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#762
On July 02 2012 20:04 Hyaach wrote:
I wanted BKE to contribute before i slept. When i came back, it was 7.30 am i had to rush off. I glanced the thread and saw people i have town read on are actually wishy washy about BKE lynch. My vote on mKmK was a pressure vote and there was zero response. So i took the best way out, lynch the next proposed target.


okay, now that you have caught up on the thread what are your scumreads?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:11 GMT
#766
@Vivax:

Please please improve your reading comprehension

@marv:

One at least has to try
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:14 GMT
#768
On July 02 2012 20:12 Vivax wrote:
Don't even know why I reply to someone who I believe to be scum.


Go ahead and make your case then
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:21 GMT
#770
Well I was just asking you to contribute a bit hyaach...you do look bad you know?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 11:26 GMT
#772
I guess it is totally off-topic but great little tale there marv, I actually laughed out loud :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 15:06 GMT
#793
@austin:

my read on wiggles is a slightly scummy one right now. d1 I had him under scummy/nulltell lurker his nightposts have been confusing and outright wrong partly. I also do not think he is playing his first game, not sure if that makes him scummier. Your point about him reading but not wanting to respond to your case is quite telling though, so I would just keep my Fos on him right now.


Hyaach is somebody we should also keep a good eye on, he is lurking and not contributing anything at all. But could be just his playstyle, judging from the one I played with him.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 16:06 GMT
#800
On July 03 2012 00:54 layabout wrote:
##shoot layabout


dafuq?!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 02 2012 16:18 GMT
#809
uhm...wtf is happening?

Any reason for going batshit layabout?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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