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xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#1115
♥ You guys could learn from Zephirdd's sig ♥
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 19 2012 23:22 GMT
#1121
On June 20 2012 07:52 talismania wrote:
xsksc is awake!

Why don't you tell us who you think Maju's partner is and why?

Nisani.
His posts are pretty retarded, I quoted this copy and paste "contribution" nonsense earlier.
On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.

On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him.

On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.

There's more bullshit if you feel like reading his filter. This in itself doesn't make him the partner, he could just be another 3rd party like KB. However, this post that DB pointed out does give him a possible link to Maju.
On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote:
I also don't like the case on Maju

He just dismisses the case without any explanation, defends him without actually doing any defense, if that makes sense.
So yeah, Nisani is my best guess for the scum partner atm.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 19 2012 23:37 GMT
#1123
On June 20 2012 08:25 talismania wrote:
So how do you account for this:

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 16:38 talismania wrote:
I will say this again:

it's really unlikely nisani is maju's partner.

Nisani claimed "a crazy role" with "extra win and extra lose" wincons. The existence of "extra lose" wincons was backed up by acrofales. Maju did not have any of these wincons. Therefore I find it an incredibly fortunate lie by nisani to have made that up if he is indeed maju's partner. More likely, nisani is third party or something.


(especially now given that we have a role pm that shows there are extra wincons as well)

?

If you take nisani as 3rd party, then who would maju's partner be?

Do you have any other reads?

Maybe I misread it but I thought Nisani denied that claim, if not, my bad I'll go re-read.
Also, I'm curious about this point you made earlier.
Classic scum posts like "Anyway I'm going away now blahblahblah if anyone has questions" (I hate it when townies do this btw).

The only post in my filter that is anything close to that would be this
On June 18 2012 10:42 xsksc wrote:
I have to go for a while, might be able to check the thread before I sleep. If I don't, I'll respond to any additional queries you might have, tomorow.

If you had actually read the context, Nisani was questioning my KB case, and I had to go AFK after I replied. I wouldn't be around again for a while, so I said I'd respond to anything else he asked in the morning, that was not a "if anyone has questions". How on earth is that a "classic scum post"? Why do you hate it when townies do it? Is it more towny to just vanish for 12 hours?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 00:36 GMT
#1139
On June 20 2012 09:00 talismania wrote:
I just don't understand why people need to update the rest of us with their whereabouts unless it's deadline-related or something. Scum get nervous about seeming absent and make those posts, but townies do it too so eh.

___________

What are your other reads? I've heard you talk about kharadbanar and nisani and that's about it. Anything else?

I think it's polite to say you are leaving, if you're in a discussion. I didn't update you with my whereabouts, I just said I had to go, simple. Call it a classic scum post all you want, in my opinnion it's a courtesy.

As for Nisani and KB, they were my anti-town reads which I actually had a case for. I need to do a full re-read when I'm done playing LoL, but as it stands, I have a bad feeling about EchelonTree but I don't see anything solid enough for a case, it's just a feeling. Drazerk is being drazerk, but his play should pick up. DropBear and acrofales look town. Hyaach and bio, null null.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 01:09 GMT
#1142
I thought moderation/punishments were usually dealt with after a game finished?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 04:10 GMT
#1149
Finished re-reading. I see what you mean about Nisani's claims now Talis, you were right, my bad. I still think he's 3rd party though.
I'm convinced HiroPro is not anti-town - I like his posts, they're constructive and pro-town. He also started the case on Maju, and I don't see why he would bus that early.

I don't believe FourFace/DropBear's claim's. It looks to me that if we have a role, we have a name.
Decon claimed "I am Phoenix Wright, the Objectivist"
This fits in with my own role, and I believe someone (acro?) also said they have a name.
DropBear and FourFace provide us with no names, DB even claims he is called vengeful townie. Given that we can't even lynch, (which he didn't know at the time) I really doubt DB's claim.

FourFace's bulletproof DT looks really overpowered. He also tells us who he plans to investigate, which is insanely careless and gives off the impression that he doesn't give a fuck. I don't believe him.
I still think Acrofales looks good. EchelonTree doesn't look as bad after a re-read/look through his filter.
Am I reading too much into the no name thing? Do you guys also have names?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 04:35 GMT
#1151
On June 20 2012 13:26 talismania wrote:
I have a name, deconduo has a name.

Neither maju nor kb had names.

So it's unclear at this point.


Neither of them are town/blue role. I am town and have a role, and a name. Deconduo - town, has a role, and a name. You - town, a role, and a name. Acro implied he has a name. See where I'm going with this?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 04:45 GMT
#1153
On June 20 2012 13:43 EchelonTee wrote:
I have a name, but revealing it would reveal my role pretty obviously. Sort of how saying "I'm Phoenix Wright" should point to Deconduo's role for whoever followed Aperture.

Yeah, obviously don't say your name. I just think it's odd that we who have roles have names, yet DB insists he was called vengeful townie.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 18:44 GMT
#1229
I'll claim if we're doing a mass claim, but I'll die tomorow night if I do.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 20:52 GMT
#1265
On June 21 2012 05:41 Acrofales wrote:
Fuck it. Mass claiming might be a pretty good idea at this point. There's 2 people who blueclaimed and both are a bit scummy and will probably be lynched. At least this way scum has to shoot them. They may do that anyway.

SitRep as far as roles go:

HiroPro --- ?
Tali --- used dayvig
Acro --- used vig
Drazerk --- VT
Ghost --- ?
deconduo --- used objectivist
DropBear --- vengeful townie
Hyaach --- ?
SnB --- ?

xsksc --- unspecified blueclaim
Nisani --- unspecified blueclaim

ET --- dead medic
BSC --- dead cop
KB --- dead SK
Maju --- dead scum


Alright, I'll fullclaim in 30mins or so if nobody objects.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 20 2012 23:07 GMT
#1306
I still think nisani is anti-town 3rd party.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 02:57 GMT
#1308
On June 21 2012 11:43 HiroPro wrote:
Anyone there? Just because we're lynching Nisani doesn't mean we stop talking...

I'm here! What do you want to talk about?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 03:27 GMT
#1315
On June 21 2012 12:10 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 11:57 xsksc wrote:
On June 21 2012 11:43 HiroPro wrote:
Anyone there? Just because we're lynching Nisani doesn't mean we stop talking...

I'm here! What do you want to talk about?


Yay! I'm still rereading people's filters but I'd like to get your opinion on DropBear.

The way I see it, the cases that people have made on him being scum are based on the fact that he wanted to kill and backed off KB with weak reasoning, claimed vengeful townie, and never really mentioned MajuGarzett.

Thing is I don't really agree with the first point at all as he seemed to provide good reasoning when Acrofales asked him (and I thought his original posting on KB even before was fairly clear in that he thought KB was scum for posting lots of contentless posts). I don't see anything crazy about his claim. And the third point is pretty weak in my opinion. And I thought his reaction to Acrofales's pressure was genuinely townie.

I'd just like to hear what you personally think about this. And if you have any strong scum reads other than Nisani?


Points 1 and 3 both apply to me as well, so no, I don't think they make him scum. Leaning town on DB, however I had some doubts about his claim (which I went over not too long ago and it's possible I was just overthinking things).
Other strong scum reads - no, although I wouldn't mind Drazerk dying.

On June 21 2012 12:11 Nisani201 wrote:
Can everyone please put their vote on me? A unanimous vote would be so cool, I wonder if it has ever happened in tl history.

This makes me nervous...
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 03:38 GMT
#1320
On June 21 2012 12:33 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 12:27 xsksc wrote:
On June 21 2012 12:10 HiroPro wrote:
On June 21 2012 11:57 xsksc wrote:
On June 21 2012 11:43 HiroPro wrote:
Anyone there? Just because we're lynching Nisani doesn't mean we stop talking...

I'm here! What do you want to talk about?


Yay! I'm still rereading people's filters but I'd like to get your opinion on DropBear.

The way I see it, the cases that people have made on him being scum are based on the fact that he wanted to kill and backed off KB with weak reasoning, claimed vengeful townie, and never really mentioned MajuGarzett.

Thing is I don't really agree with the first point at all as he seemed to provide good reasoning when Acrofales asked him (and I thought his original posting on KB even before was fairly clear in that he thought KB was scum for posting lots of contentless posts). I don't see anything crazy about his claim. And the third point is pretty weak in my opinion. And I thought his reaction to Acrofales's pressure was genuinely townie.

I'd just like to hear what you personally think about this. And if you have any strong scum reads other than Nisani?


Points 1 and 3 both apply to me as well, so no, I don't think they make him scum. Leaning town on DB, however I had some doubts about his claim (which I went over not too long ago and it's possible I was just overthinking things).
Other strong scum reads - no, although I wouldn't mind Drazerk dying.

On June 21 2012 12:11 Nisani201 wrote:
Can everyone please put their vote on me? A unanimous vote would be so cool, I wonder if it has ever happened in tl history.

This makes me nervous...


Ok. I noticed you said earlier that you had a town read on DropBear. But like four hours later, you started to doubt his claim. Thing is, he had claimed before you said you had a town read and he hadn't posted at all in between, so can you explain this a little more?

And why Drazerk?

My first reads that I gave to tali were just before I did a full re-read of the thread. Having done that, I noticed the whole name/lack of thing, that's what changed my opinnion on his claim. Nothing I would lynch him for I just thought it was fishy.
As for Drazerk, it's not a scum read, I just don't like his play.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 03:46 GMT
#1322
On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make.

"Is that a crow I hear, calling the raven black?"
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 05:10 GMT
#1335
Look at nisani's filter before he argued I was making easy posts. That's why I got annoyed at him.
I never said 3rd party are more important than scum, I said I want to lynch them more than usual.
You want me to claim?
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 05:25 GMT
#1341
I'm Sherlock Holmes, the Detective
Every night I can investigate a player, and I'll get told if they're anti-town or non anti-town.
I was told I could be sane or insane.
I've determined that I am most definitely sane, as I checked KB n0 and he returned anti-town.
I checked BioSC n1 and he returned non anti-town. The reason I checked BioSC was that I knew someone was framed, and he had managed to stay fairly low profile. Bit of a waste in hindsight, but I had no idea he was about to be vig shot. At least it confirms my sanity.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 05:29 GMT
#1344
On June 21 2012 14:19 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 14:10 xsksc wrote:
Look at nisani's filter before he argued I was making easy posts. That's why I got annoyed at him.
I never said 3rd party are more important than scum, I said I want to lynch them more than usual.
You want me to claim?


I am not going to argue with this about you. But no, it is not about being annoyed. Townies get annoyed too; it is about deliberately trying to make a person look bad when they are coming after you.


On June 19 2012 05:28 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
So no one wants to share their opinion on xsksc?


No. Your case is bad.

The case was just bad, even you said it, lol. I don't like being told my posts are easy to make, by nisani of all people, it's simple as that.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 05:30 GMT
#1345
On June 21 2012 14:29 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 14:25 xsksc wrote:
I'm Sherlock Holmes, the Detective
Every night I can investigate a player, and I'll get told if they're anti-town or non anti-town.
I was told I could be sane or insane.
I've determined that I am most definitely sane, as I checked KB n0 and he returned anti-town.
I checked BioSC n1 and he returned non anti-town. The reason I checked BioSC was that I knew someone was framed, and he had managed to stay fairly low profile. Bit of a waste in hindsight, but I had no idea he was about to be vig shot. At least it confirms my sanity.


lol, 2 cops in a 15-man setup. We have a liar, ladies and gentleman. Read his filter, read my case, and then laugh at his claim. We're lynching him tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 21 2012 05:46 GMT
#1351
On June 21 2012 14:35 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 14:30 xsksc wrote:
On June 21 2012 14:29 HiroPro wrote:
On June 21 2012 14:25 xsksc wrote:
I'm Sherlock Holmes, the Detective
Every night I can investigate a player, and I'll get told if they're anti-town or non anti-town.
I was told I could be sane or insane.
I've determined that I am most definitely sane, as I checked KB n0 and he returned anti-town.
I checked BioSC n1 and he returned non anti-town. The reason I checked BioSC was that I knew someone was framed, and he had managed to stay fairly low profile. Bit of a waste in hindsight, but I had no idea he was about to be vig shot. At least it confirms my sanity.


lol, 2 cops in a 15-man setup. We have a liar, ladies and gentleman. Read his filter, read my case, and then laugh at his claim. We're lynching him tomorrow.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599


That game had 6 survivors and 2 serial killers. Town was a minority of 7 people. It is not comparable.

And your behavior has already shown that you are scum. Your claim is just icing on the cake.

You argue that I'm scum because of how I reacted to Nisani's case. You yourself even said the case was bad, why would I risk exposing myself by reacting in such a way, to such a bad case that would never get me lynched? It was a bit over the top admittadly, but I was fucking annoyed by what he said.
You said you don't want to argue this issue with me, but it's the core of your case on me...
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