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On June 03 2012 08:05 prplhz wrote: @talismania Because if town doesn't know what role that scum has then it very much opens up the possibility of scum arguing for whatever role that benefits them (and townies would argue along with them). You got a check? Well watch 1 mafia and 2 townies say that scum probably got framer and framed whoever. I've said this several times already. Also, if we decided that it was more important that scum didn't know what role they got than that we elected some specific role then we would kill a lot of discussion on day0.
@Kurumi
Dearest Kurumi,
No I'm not afraid that I'll get shot tonight. I don't think it's all that likely that there is a vigilante and I think it's very unlikely that he would listen to your "case". And I didn't ask why you wanted to shoot me 'cause you actually already wrote your "case" in this thread, I even responded to it! Don't know what's so interesting about me not asking for something you already gave me, but in case you have more then just go ahead and post it.
If there really is a vigilante he should shoot risk.nuke tonight 'cause that guy doesn't give a shit about this game. He's acted nonchalantly like this in other games, but I've never seen him not actually care about a game. In Death Factory Mafia 2 he kind of did something like this but he was blue and had a powerful role so he didn't need to get all analytic, in Space Station he was also a bit like this in thread but he was very much invested in the game in PMs. Even if he is town then you'd just be taking out the god damn trash.
I'm exceedingly tipsy and I can't think all too straight right now. If anybody thinks I should vote something for poison then tell me. Otherwise, I'm going to vote for majority+1 'cause I think I remember agreeing with myself on this yesterday. Here I am and I follow cases of the great Kurumi. You are dead.
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On June 03 2012 08:18 Radfield wrote: Oh yeah, it's really important obviously that if someone gets roleblocked they should announce it immediately, as it gives our potential tracker more info. Not to mention letting us know the mafia setup.
Medics, cops and trackers can do their own thing. Innocent child obviously does nothing until it is pertinent. Vigilante should probably be shooting.
Prplhz, majority +1 is probably the hardest poison unless we have an obvious lynch. It should be the one that we don't use,or only use situationally. Right now we have very little focus and very little galvinization of potential lynch targets. Majority +1 is a bad choice. I hear ya
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On June 03 2012 08:31 prplhz wrote: @Radfield If the vigilante is like "Should I shoot prplhz or should I shoot risk.nuke?" then what would you advice him to do?
I thought about how a 3-1 endgame situation could turn out if scum just keeps doing no night actions, he could force us into poisons he liked if we no-lynch in response. I'm just going to do waht you said though 'cause it doesn't look like it matters all too much what I vote and hopefully we'll not get into a bad endgame situation.
@Kurumi I'm ignoring you until you write something new. I decided last mini that I wouldn't let tunnelers get on my nerves again and I really don't think you have anything to contribute if the only thing you can say is "I'm vigilante and I'm shooting you". If you're doing some crazy plan counting on a potential roleblocker to roleblock you in case they picked vigilante and I'm scum then you're even more out of your mind than I feared.
@Zephirdd Why are Radfield and Kurumi the two mayor candidates? Why do you speak like you don't care about being shot but you try to swing my opinion the heck
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On June 03 2012 08:53 HiroPro wrote: I am voting for lynch lock. Day 3 must absolutely be mayoral election though, I won't accept anything else.
Kurumi, if you really are the vig, please don't shoot prplhz.
Zephirdd, it would be nice if you actually did say something about the people you looked. You went through a lot of filters. Surely you have something to say even if you don't necessarily have a strong mafia read on someone. What specifically made you suspicious of WBG? I would say that both he and Radfield led the lynch on Navillus equally, but for WBG you say that you are suspicious of him for leading the Navillus lynch, while the only thing you say about Radfield is "If Radfield is mafia I am doomed anyways." Don't shoot why? That's it. I had some doubts but prplhz is dead for sure.
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On June 03 2012 08:58 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 08:32 Kurumi wrote:On June 03 2012 08:31 prplhz wrote: @Radfield If the vigilante is like "Should I shoot prplhz or should I shoot risk.nuke?" then what would you advice him to do?
I thought about how a 3-1 endgame situation could turn out if scum just keeps doing no night actions, he could force us into poisons he liked if we no-lynch in response. I'm just going to do waht you said though 'cause it doesn't look like it matters all too much what I vote and hopefully we'll not get into a bad endgame situation.
@Kurumi I'm ignoring you until you write something new. I decided last mini that I wouldn't let tunnelers get on my nerves again and I really don't think you have anything to contribute if the only thing you can say is "I'm vigilante and I'm shooting you". If you're doing some crazy plan counting on a potential roleblocker to roleblock you in case they picked vigilante and I'm scum then you're even more out of your mind than I feared.
@Zephirdd Why are Radfield and Kurumi the two mayor candidates? Why do you speak like you don't care about being shot but you try to swing my opinion the heck How do I speak like I don't care about being shot? I just, in that very post, asked Radfield about his opinion on this whole vigilante thing. How is that not caring? How is arguing with you and you inexistant case all night1 not caring? Even though I shouldn't care because you have no case and no vigilante with a brain and eyes to read would shoot me, I argue with you. Are you seriously asking me why I don't want you to tunnel a townie and yell for a vigilante to shoot him? I'm done with you for now. Take a step back and then take a deep breath. I'm not responding to you unless you have something new or substantial to say. I will enjoy every millisecond of the bullet travelling through your body
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On June 03 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 08:56 Kurumi wrote:On June 03 2012 08:53 HiroPro wrote: I am voting for lynch lock. Day 3 must absolutely be mayoral election though, I won't accept anything else.
Kurumi, if you really are the vig, please don't shoot prplhz.
Zephirdd, it would be nice if you actually did say something about the people you looked. You went through a lot of filters. Surely you have something to say even if you don't necessarily have a strong mafia read on someone. What specifically made you suspicious of WBG? I would say that both he and Radfield led the lynch on Navillus equally, but for WBG you say that you are suspicious of him for leading the Navillus lynch, while the only thing you say about Radfield is "If Radfield is mafia I am doomed anyways." Don't shoot why? That's it. I had some doubts but prplhz is dead for sure. Because I have a town read on him. Switching from multiple candidates is not scummy behavior if actual legitimate reasons are provided. And the reasoning prplhz provides is adequate. There are no legitimate reasons. Zephirdd is fine, huh?
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On June 03 2012 09:13 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 09:06 Kurumi wrote:On June 03 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:On June 03 2012 08:56 Kurumi wrote:On June 03 2012 08:53 HiroPro wrote: I am voting for lynch lock. Day 3 must absolutely be mayoral election though, I won't accept anything else.
Kurumi, if you really are the vig, please don't shoot prplhz.
Zephirdd, it would be nice if you actually did say something about the people you looked. You went through a lot of filters. Surely you have something to say even if you don't necessarily have a strong mafia read on someone. What specifically made you suspicious of WBG? I would say that both he and Radfield led the lynch on Navillus equally, but for WBG you say that you are suspicious of him for leading the Navillus lynch, while the only thing you say about Radfield is "If Radfield is mafia I am doomed anyways." Don't shoot why? That's it. I had some doubts but prplhz is dead for sure. Because I have a town read on him. Switching from multiple candidates is not scummy behavior if actual legitimate reasons are provided. And the reasoning prplhz provides is adequate. There are no legitimate reasons. Zephirdd is fine, huh? My personal feeling is that he is scum. But he has claimed blue "I'm amazed that I wasn't lynched. Thankfully Rad noted what I did there." and people seem to believe him. I don't think he is a good shot target for tonight. If he continues to play the way that he has so far, then he is scum in my opinion and I will push for his lynch. But I think today it is best not to take a shot. It's not a blue claim/slip whatever lol So I kill prplhz and we lynch Zephirdd tomorrow, easy
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On June 03 2012 09:19 HiroPro wrote: Honestly, I don't know what to tell you. You disregard everything I say so it doesn't even matter. I just believe my vigilante skills cyriandor v2 is coming up
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okay guys good night, we are going to have a pleasant surprise by day
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I expected to get rbed and killed and here I am untouched. Arghnice. Prplhz is an excellent lynch candidate so I am voting him. Wishy-washy as heck without backing it up, clearly did not care about D1 lynch. Him being pretty confident in not getting shot is a tell too. He was quite active during the night.
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so you wanted to lynch wbg whether he was town or scum? that's a touching story
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in case prplhz wall of text is too long here is tl;dr I wanted to lynch anyone because I don't care
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On June 03 2012 19:53 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 19:51 Kurumi wrote: so you wanted to lynch wbg whether he was town or scum? that's a touching story So you just claimed scum? Awesome. Hey, why is that "You" not capitalized? i dislike wasting time on scum
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On June 03 2012 19:55 prplhz wrote: Kurumi appealing to the people not reading the thread. Sounds legit.
Anyway, since this is tunnel city, I'm leaving this thread. I'll spend my time reading instead of responding to no-effort no-brain one liners from Kurumi. inb4 "he thinks he's getting lynched because he feels inherently guilty because he's scum". say hello from me to your scum friends in the qt
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On June 03 2012 23:50 risk.nuke wrote: I think we should lynch zephirdd for two reasons. 1. It will shed light on the voteswitch. It is infact very important that we learn zephirdds aligntment or we'll just stab ourselves in the foot if he turns out to be town. 2. Wbg was for lynching 3 people. Myself, Navillus and Zephirdd (And kurumi who he might not have pushed for because he didn't think he could get him lynched). Wbg was killed which indicates that the mafia believed he was on to something. Knowing that I am town, Navillus is town that leaves Zephirdd (and Kurumi). So you think that wherebugsgo was correct with his reads and we should lynch into them? What? He wasn't a dt, he was a vt and it was D1.
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On June 04 2012 00:08 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 23:50 risk.nuke wrote: I think we should lynch zephirdd for two reasons. 1. It will shed light on the voteswitch. It is infact very important that we learn zephirdds aligntment or we'll just stab ourselves in the foot if he turns out to be town. 2. Wbg was for lynching 3 people. Myself, Navillus and Zephirdd (And kurumi who he might not have pushed for because he didn't think he could get him lynched). Wbg was killed which indicates that the mafia believed he was on to something. Knowing that I am town, Navillus is town that leaves Zephirdd (and Kurumi). 1. You're basically saying that town will stab itself on the foot by lynching me -_- 2. That makes no sense. Wbg is a known veteran and obvious target; Radfield and Kurumi, even though are veterans, have suspicion over eachother(or that's how I see it). Besides, we don't know your alignment; As far as we know, you killed wbg because you thought he'd find you.Also, with noone claiming to be roleblocked so far, I think it's safe to assume the mafia got a Framer. This is specially true because I wasn't roleblocked even though I "basically" had blueclaimed. Kurumi not being roleblocked/killed isn't incredible, however: mafia knows if there is any Vigilante in game, and Kurumi claiming vigilante would only mean to them "lol fakeclaim" if there is no vigilante in the setup.
Not sure what to make about prplhz and toadestern. Zero time to make real long-term analysis, but Toad making such a huge fancy case against prplhz and not answering his rebuttal seems odd. Toad, do you still think prplhz is scum? Also, prpl Show nested quote +Your conclusion is pretty silly, but overall your analysis is so bullshit that I'm a little less worried about you now. Why would you be worried about someone making a case on you? To whom it may concern: What is your opinion on Toades/Kurumi X prplhz? My opinion is that Toadesstern is making a bad case and trying to push for a mislynch. Kurumi gives very little reasoning to his posts, and tunnels himself on a player of choice(Radfield day0/1, prplhz night1/day1). prplhz has answered most of the questions with reasonable responses. Go you~ Explain the bolded for me because I just don't understand it
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On June 04 2012 00:29 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 23:55 Kurumi wrote:On June 03 2012 23:50 risk.nuke wrote: I think we should lynch zephirdd for two reasons. 1. It will shed light on the voteswitch. It is infact very important that we learn zephirdds aligntment or we'll just stab ourselves in the foot if he turns out to be town. 2. Wbg was for lynching 3 people. Myself, Navillus and Zephirdd (And kurumi who he might not have pushed for because he didn't think he could get him lynched). Wbg was killed which indicates that the mafia believed he was on to something. Knowing that I am town, Navillus is town that leaves Zephirdd (and Kurumi). So you think that wherebugsgo was correct with his reads and we should lynch into them? What? He wasn't a dt, he was a vt and it was D1. He died brainiac, and it wasn't the flu. Sure he was a veteran and that makes him a target but why would they kill him if all his targets were town. If they have a town veteran beeing suspicious at other townies thats a goldmine for the mafia. Making the townies fight and push lynches amongst themselves. They don't kill their own goldmines regardless of how feared scumhunters they are. And wbg is known to be an exellent scumplayer not an amazing scumhunter. @Hiro: Will I need to repeat every little thing so that your tiny brain can puzzle it together. I posted additional reasons for why zephirdd is a good lynch. It was not a new case because zephirdd already had a case on him. So you think they killed wbg because he was wrong and that's why you want to kill Zephirdd and me?
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On June 04 2012 00:36 risk.nuke wrote: No I think they killed him because he was on to something which is the most logical explaination. Kurumi why do you think they killed wbg? I'm starting to feel that what you're saying is 'the scumteam isn't playing optimal and that's why they killed wbg'. WBG kill is piss poor, done close to nothing this game, voted framer, wanted to lynch me for a weak meta reason, no blue indications from him, nothing. I guess they feared him stepping up the game.
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He's afraid of my gun. I am going to roast him Texan style.
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Radfield, why are you alive? Let me change my vote, I just hopped onto something
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