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On June 11 2012 14:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: So it's N1. I'd vote on cop checking Kenpachi since I recall him generally doing nothing and always just posting "I'm town" Any suggestions? Directing blue roles now are we RoL  ?But while we're at it I'd say Wiggles would also be a decent choice because for some reason I can't seem to get a solid read on him lately. | ||
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On June 11 2012 14:52 payl wrote: Doctor - "You can be Sane, Insane, Paranoid or Weak." Btw, hi. wait what? I'm actually not familiar with doctor sanity. How does a Sane Doctor act VS an Insane Doctor? | ||
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On June 12 2012 04:26 Toadesstern wrote: I thought so as well until I realized there can be framers in this game  The op has no framers in it but they're possible because it's apparently a closed-setup with example roles. Especially if we follow the miller plan from gonzaw that is bound to fail because if we assign the guy who shoots based on being a miller and the fact that it should return red (as you pointet out no mafia will return red AND are able to shoot) we're painting a big, red cross above the millers head for a framer. Wait why would you want to frame a miller? I've thought about it a bit and I don't really see a downside of millers claiming especially if we give them a designated target. | ||
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On June 12 2012 04:39 Toadesstern wrote: if you frame a miller he returns green like a GF would. A miller should return red but we know he can't be a mafia guy unless he's GF so the shot of a miller proves he is either a townie or a GF. If he returns green to a DT check he looks like a GF and not like a miller who should return red on checks. Yeah this is true if the cop is sane. We have varied sanity so I wouldn't put that much stock if someone claimed miller a check turned them green. Even if it's actually the gf we still have the fact that the cop may be naive. | ||
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On June 12 2012 15:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm wondering what's likely here: RoL is SK who fake-claimed Miller to avoid DT checks and claimed to have his gun taken so he can't make good on his promise to shoot Toad... ...or... RoL is Miller who actually had his gun taken away. Anyone wanna wildly speculate with me? RoL I'm guessing you're still firmly in the "Miller" camp... Wait help me follow the logic here, if RoL is SK then he has to shoot, so he fakes having his gun stolen and shoots FreelanceSatan. Scum take a shot at him and he gets saved? It does seem possible, and I wouldn't put it past RoL to pull something ballsy like that. I'm very leery of the "my gun is stolen claim." Whatever happened, it's certain he doesn't have a gun now but that doesn't preclude him being sk and faking in a ballsy manner. I'd like for someone to summarize the major points on gonzaw, using quotes if that's possible. From what I saw, bugs wanted to kill him and several people pilled on. Also this post is actually kinda bad and I'm surprised I'm the only one with a problem with it. On June 12 2012 07:56 kitaman27 wrote: The biggest problem with setups where so many people have guns is the town's lack of organization. It eventually ends up in a trollfest, where townies shoot each other, while the scum team sits in the background without attracting much attention. If you are town, don't forget to submit your vote for a 48 hour day cycle. If you shoot five minutes into the game, you will be shot day two. If you shoot within the first 24 hours of a cycle, you will be shot the following cycle If you shoot without the town's consensus, you will be shot I don't care if you shoot a mafia player. If you break one of those three rules, you will be shot in return. I support a miller claim on day one. If they fail to claim on day one, then they get shot if they claim miller at any point after d1. Millers shouldn't claim night one as it assists the mafia team with blue sniping. It seems very unlikey that the mafia team has two godfather type roles. Based on the way the shot cooldown works, they would be able to day kill four consecutive days. Combined with the six night kills that come with their deaths and lynches, thats a 2:10 trade, assuming there isn't a SK or town night vig role. I like chaoser's plan of forcing certain players to shoot, but I wouldn't leave it up to them to decide their own target. By shooting early and often, the mafia godfather gets the most out of his role. We shouldn't allow a random player to shoot at will. Kita do you realize that the people shooting will most likely be townies? You're advocating for the death of lots of greens on the chance that you catch the gf or sk. I agree we need accountability but shooting people who step out of line like that isn't going to work. I made a post before this about holding ourselves accountable with I'll just repost here now: On June 12 2012 06:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Can we agree right now to not go rogue and shoot without discussion? There needs to be some deliberation behind peoples shots. If everyone just goes rambo then we'll never actually get a chance to scumhunt. Discussion is the key. Perhaps that sounds a bit kumbaya, but you have to realize that if you shoot people just because they made an unauthorized shot you're probably going to hit a disgruntled townie. I'd also be interested in seeing you post more kita. | ||
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On June 12 2012 20:54 marvellosity wrote: Well the difference is, Meapak, that yours was a tad wishy washy. The sentiment behind kitaman's post is clear. If town signals its ABSOLUTE INTENT to punish with the highest form of punishment, then it discourages rogue shooters. I'm fairly sure kita recognises your 'concerns', but the point is it discourages an anti-town mode of doing things. If you explicitly say, 'well, except in this case, or the result is this' then you weaken the sentiment. No? Unfortunately, "wishy washy" is really the best we can do in this game. Kita's policy really doesn't discourage rogue shooters because it's a policy town cannot feasibly enforce. If kita does recognize my concerns then I don't think he'd have made this post. Hopefully we'll all act sane and this won't become a problem but my point is, if someone does go full retard on us and shoots out of the blue, kita's policy will not prevent it and should not be used to "punish" the lone ranger. It doesn't do a good job signaling "absolute intent" when it's terrible to begin with. | ||
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). also @rastaban I have no idea what you expect me to say. I had my last day of classes yesterday so I was at school for a large portion of the day if that makes any difference. I mean I'm not sure what your "you were playing bad and now you're not, explain why you were playing bad" means. This post actually rubbed me a bit the wrong way because if you think someone is playing bad then you don't ask them to justify their actions, you wait if they continue and see if it's townie bad or scum bad. | ||
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On June 12 2012 22:59 marvellosity wrote: Meapak, I meant gonzaw himself said that plans/setup speculation were a null tell. Actually in his case I don't really disagree in generalities because he does similar things as town. The nub of the matter is that it is ALL he does. I could quote several super-long posts where he does it. But says he is too lazy to filter and analyse. That's an inherent scummy contradiction. Alright then, the refusal to do analysis is certainly pretty bad. As for plans, I don't actually recall playing a game with gonzaw as town. Have any prerequisite reading I could do? Probably would help to take a look at it to make my final decision. Actually I think gonzaw should name the game so I see something that he personally believes is representative of his town play. | ||
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On June 13 2012 03:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don't want to have anyone shoot until RoL comes in and proves he's not lying. He can shoot Gonzaw if he likes. Also, Gonzaw, shoot again with the right formatting. RoL already proved he doesn't have a gun iirc. Chaoser that was beautiful. I'm more than ready to kill gonzaw. I also agree with having suspicious people kill him. Some names to consider of lurkers we could get a nice read on by having them shoot: risk.nuke kenpachi payl Zentor Maybe supersoft? | ||
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On June 13 2012 04:05 marvellosity wrote: RoL will (attempt to) shoot gonzaw and that's that. Great plan by Wiggles. RoL already tried to shoot and it failed. | ||
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On June 13 2012 04:12 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, I wouldn't mind Toad shooting me either now that I think of it This makes me feel like you're trying to shift focus off of some of the people we've mentioned. | ||
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On June 13 2012 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote: What are your thoughts on Palmar marvel? And now that Ace has given us something to think about (Radfield "saving" Palmar,) what are your thoughts on Ace? lol wrong game... | ||
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gonzaw why were you all gungho about shooting n0 when you didn't even have a gun? That's the part I'm having a hard time with. If we decide not to kill gonzaw then I think we should kill payl. | ||
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