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On May 31 2012 07:31 O.Golden_ne wrote: I disagree sciberbia, i've learnt from the past that it's stupid too not lynch day one. You should realise that yourself with the last games fiasco with Mufaa being AFK all. I'm strongly against not lynching, either we knock a lurker or we knock someone who appears scummy and see how they flip. Mafia is a game of information, and with no information on day 2 we loss. Standard stuff. I understand you don't want to hit blue again D1 like last game, but its the responsibility of the blue role to defend himself from a mislynch rather than town being to scared to lynch for hitting blue. agree 100% 1. DO NOT claim you are a vanilla townie. We won't believe you AND you should be glad to die in place of a blue. We don't want to limit the pool of possible blues. 2. Attention DT (if we have one) - Let's say you get a lucky check on scum. Do not reveal yourself day 2. Do not come screaming into the thread with your pants still at your feet. You are not guaranteed a medic. Breadcrumb your result. Look at their behavior and create an accusation. Anything is better than a reveal. STRONGLY AGREE on this, blue people, dont roleclaim instantly, but dont put yourself in the radar, you SHOULD roleclaim as last resource i think, and give proof for such claim of course. Also, i have a reccomendation, please people, dont use PAST games as a guide, people change their way of play everytime, the last (and only) game i played, town got fucked (in part) thanks to this...i was mafia, lurking, bad town play and bad reads based on past games granted us the victory, only 1 mafia died thanks to a very lucky shot. Keep in touch, i'll try to do my best | ||
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Try not to bandwagon with a simple "I agree with ___". We want to limit our lynch candidates. The voting patterns of Day 1 may end up leading us to an excellent mafia candidate day 3 or later. If we have people voting all over the place, the usefulness of the day 1 lynch becomes diluted. That's not say don't be aggressive. Don't be afraid to poke the bear right in the eye if you feel good about an accusation. Sorry, i missed this, im REALLY against bandwagons, specially at the last hours of the day, i think on day 1 we dont have much information to work on, but we need to have our eyes open for a mafia slip, yes, lets pressure people, if they evade/lurk/start attacking other people whitout a real reason, then thats our day 1 candidate. Also, i like to save my vote to the last hours of the day, mafia is always much more active at day last hours just to see if they can change the decision or who is going to die. If someone wants to be "town leader" please take all this in account, im all in for some kind of town guidance and not a FFA f**kfest. | ||
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On May 31 2012 17:31 Xatalos wrote: Something feels off about Unforgiven_ve. His contributions so far are "safe" generalities to say about the game. In addition, he wants to move the spotlight away from himself by asking for a town leader to easily sheep, and then he even says that he won't vote until the last hours (when it's extremely easy to bandwagon and blend in as Mafia). As things stand, I'm ready to go for a Unforgiven_ve lynch. However, I want to see your response first, Unforgiven_ve. You better impress with your next post or your filter looks really bad already. Sorry, i wont play to "impress" you or anyone, i play for town benefit. 1) What "contributions"? what filter are you talking about? I just posted one time after the day started, of course is "safe", its one post about generalitys and how i think the game shoud be played. 2) Town should discuss everything, i agree on that, but in a newbie game we need to have some kind of structure (same as normal games i think)...im not saying we should vote or choose a leader, i ment, if someone wants to take that spot, take in account all i said in that post If someone wants to be "town leader" please take all this in account, im all in for some kind of town guidance and not a FFA f**kfest 3) If you really read and interpret my post, you'd find this especially those lurkers who goes super active the last hours of the day, we have to keep an eye on them + Show Spoiler + he even says that he won't vote until the last hours (when it's extremely easy to bandwagon and blend in as Mafia) At day 1 (at least for me) we have to use timing and votting patterns to our gaing, when you just throw a bunch of FoS and Votes in every post you do you are actually helping the mafia, just making townies reasoning harder whit every post you do. I agree we have to pressure people and make them talk, but we have to do this whitout being PARANOICS, again, this just helps mafia. Raise your case, make a couple post pointing out what you belive about someones filter, keep your FoS to yourself AT LEAST FOR THE BEGGINING OF THE DAY. (i see it coming) Dont interpret this as some kind of "HEY GUYZ HE'S JUST TRIYING TO MAKE US PASSIVE AND DONT DISCUSSS LETS LYNCH HIM LOLZ I LOVE LOLCATZ"...im saying Play it smart, lets take safe steps every vote counts, every FoS counts, every post someone makes about finding something suspicious SHOULD count. | ||
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I guess "reek" means "full of" or something like that, not what im triying to project i guess. The only thing i feel is a overeager feeling from you to start a bandwagon, seeing as we still have one whole day left i see this unnecessary. also, i see you are not a pretty good reader, im not saying im looking bad, im saying people (like you) will try to decontextualize everything someones post. | ||
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Im going to really try to clear the suspicions abotu me (but i must confess i dont really see it). First of all, my "contradictions"...dont use PAST games as a guide is the first one i think. Im saying this, because i see (and saw in the past game) some people talking about "meta-game", for me, when i read NEWBIE Mafia and some players triying to do indepth analysis based on a few, sometimes even ONE random post is just hilarious, i understand we have to get the ball rolling but again, i say, we have to do this in a smart way, not just throwing gazillions of FoS and votes. Now, at this stage of the game and seeing the post count we have something to work on, still very little, but at least is something. About the "town leader", is something that manifest for itself, i never said lets vote or something. My "reads" so far: The ridiculous aggresiveness im getting from Xatalos got me thinking about 2 things, he's just a really bad townie triying to use his ubber skills...or just a mafia playing in a pretty risky way (metagame uh?) I confess deep inside me i think its the first option, just a bad townie, contradiction and all, thats what my personal experience dictates. My main suspect revolve around someone who have had some kind of agression but not making it too risky and not taking any pressure at all. suki: his first post is about the NL d1 theme, and asking Miltonkram about his fst vote. His 3rd post is some semi-analysis about the people the town is talking about and to close his post he throws a vote against me, before make it clear "it may change"...then a couple more post naming Cattivik, Superouman and me. That's it...he nevers really pressure someone, playing it really safe, his filter is short, he's just taunting Cattivik in hopes of preparing a Day 2 candidate. For now on: ##Vote suki but it may change uh?! ----------------------------------------- Im heading out to work (i work at night and study at day) i will make a post tomorrow about my second suspect. I can get online form my phone, if anyone wants to ask something please make a precise question and i'll try to answer it. It sucks to write a long post from the phone. | ||
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Golden: wait and you will see every lurker will go active at the last hours of the day | ||
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I see my first post still is a problem for some players, i will try to summarize my response (for the last time) taking this post... he states that you shouldn't use past games as a guide, yet he references two past games in the same post. He states that blue people shouldn't roleclaim, and yet they should roleclaim (as a last resort!). He states that mafia is more active during the last hours of the day, yet he slips in that he'll save his vote for the last hours as well, as if by stating it early he alleviates all suspicions on his actions later on. He's really against bandwagons, yet he asks for a town leader for people to follow. when i say "dont use past game as a guide" i mean personally, dont look for the other games some especific player has played (¿sp?), they can change their way of playing very easily. I just had played 1 game, blue roleclaiming at the end of the game is pretty obvious for me. I said i will save my vote for the last triying to show the town how is my style" of play, like i said, watching all the post, getting information, etc...but i see maybe i was wrong, one should adapt to the way the TOWN plays. When i say town leader i ment someone who are good at making indepth anaysis and posts, who could get people thinking, who can sumarize 10 pages in one post... i think i did not made it very clear, but for a mafia this would be VERY hard to do, thats what i ment when i said "structure" just one or a couple of good players, not someone we will blindly follow...i forgot im in a newbie game ;D. Now to all the new information... __________________________________________________________________________ This extended mayority lynch will fuck us pretty bad, mafia are theonly ones benefiting from this i think... This new case (and votes) against Ange777... i did told you mafia would come at last hours for some activity uh? She's is now on my list, but suki remains number one, specially after this On June 02 2012 01:45 suki wrote: I feel that lynching unforgiven at this point would give us a sure mafia lynch, but from the tone of the thread it doesn't seem like it will pass. I'll put off this discussion until day two. Ange777 already has four votes on him, and by lynching him we rid ourselves of a lurker. To guarantee a Day 1 lynch I will vote for Ange777. ##Unvote Unforgiven_ve ##Vote Ange777 Same random blind vote agains a case someone's else started. s0Lstice: + Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 02:37 s0Lstice wrote: Xatalos asked me how I felt about Unforgiven in light of his defense. I'm leaving my FoS where it is. When he finally had a little time to scum hunt, he pointed the finger at suki. It was a novel idea at the time, but to me it lacked effort. Look at sciberbia's post compared to his. Now, not all accusations have to have a big word count to be effective, but his effort just looks lazy. Does the reasoning he laid out really warrant a vote? Not to me. He says Suki never pressured anyone, which is ironic because a big part of sciberbia's case is that he bandwagon pressured a lot of people. Whether he was first on the scene or not, he has pressured milton, unforgiven, vivix, and superouman. Saying he hasn't pressured anyone is just false. His case is just 4 short points. The first I just discussed. Past that, his other points are a short filter, safe day 1 play, and some nonsense about taunting cattivik to butter him up for a day 2 vote. It's just not a lot to go on. Keep that in mind. In his defense posts, he says we should discuss everything and nothing at the same time. Don't throw FoS around, or votes. Don't use meta arguments. What is his idea of hunting scum? Those two things are very important tools for applying pressure. He says we need structure, but never says what that is outside from some leader emerging to tell us what to do. His message remains totally unclear. Wait, be smart about scumhunting, and let people talk...but don't use half the tools in your arsenal to get them to talk. He doesn't follow his own rules. He posts a 'meh' case on Suki and then votes right away. If he was following his own rules, I'd think he'd at least wait for a defense before throwing his vote around. Bottom line is I like that he has started to make some effort to hunt scum, and I realize that he has had to spend a lot of time defending himself, but there are still so many inconsistencies in his play that my FoS stays put. I will keep watching. On refresh I see there's a lot of other stuff going on right now so I'd better hurry up and post! Some tother time would say you are not good at reading and throw a light insult ;D but at this point of the game i (think?) know is me not knowing how to make a proper post. Im not good at writing long posts thats why i try to resume and point to the precise stuff i find scummy. For me, suki is still number 1, if Ange777 flips red this will just convice me even more, i bet they are wishing for a NL. I will change my vote before deadline if neccesary, i still have a couple hour to burn. As always, if anyone has any question please ask | ||
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On June 02 2012 04:15 Xatalos wrote: Ange777, your case against Suki gives me hope that you might become an asset for the Mafia hunt after all. More so than Superouman or Unforgiven_ve. However, you made mistakes / mispresentations. Suki jumping on the lynch push for you (in favor of his better Mafia read) isn't really suspicious in itself, since the other option was to basically vote for no-lynch (Unforgiven_ve had no other votes, so it could have as well been voting for no-lynch). It's actually the most logical thing to do as town (unless you think you can turn the tide of the thread in 3 hours) to ensure a lynch, even if it isn't your best Mafia read. I also dislike how you put so much faith in Unforgiven_ve's initial defense, while to me it just looked like angry deflection and dodging. Unforgiven_ve had one decent post later, but why you would bring up his most Mafia-esque post as his defense, I can't say. I can certainly see why someone would feel suspicious of Unforgiven_ve at this point. Do you think Suki is Mafia if you consider these points? What are your other reads? Please share what you can, as fast as you can. lol @ anger. That just happened in your little head, my dear scum. I forgot to put this in my last post, i also, dont like how Ange sided by me so strongly. That REALLY raised my eyebrown when i read it. | ||
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On June 02 2012 05:02 Ange777 wrote: ... And Suki IS bandwagoning. He was the 5th player to vote for me, I can't see how this counts as "the first". twice, whitout at least posting his reasons besides "yep she0s lurking" and "omg unforgiven looks so scummy, but maybe not" | ||
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and i meant he (suki) bandwagon'ed twice, me and you whitout stating any real reasons of his own | ||
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TOWN please, VOTE FOR SUKI, im pretty sure he is mafia!! I bet he is confortably sitting waiting for Ange777 to get lynched or a No Lynch at best. Xatalos, if you arent mafia, please do this, a vigi can check me at night (if mafia dont kill me before) | ||
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QUOTE]On June 02 2012 05:25 Xatalos wrote: Suki, where are you when you need to defend yourself? The bandwagon on you is gathering steam, but you're nowhere to be seen. And I don't even think you're Mafia. Do a favor for everyone and show up right now. Where are o.Golden_ne, Superouman, Heist and Eishi_Ki for that matter? This huge amount of lurking is making the game so much harder. On June 02 2012 05:06 Ange777 wrote: Unforgiven ... how about sticking to your stance? Either you don't have a read on me OR I am suspicious ... I fully agree and wonder why people aren't voting for him already. He's just throwing non-committing blame around and never risking the chance of being put under real scrutiny. If you want to have a textbook Mafia style to analyze, you have one right here... Compare Unforgiven_ve and Suki with each other and tell me Suki is the Mafia of these two. It's probably not both, since they have been antagonizing each other for the whole game. never risking the chance of being put under real scrutiny?? Really? in every post i say if you have questions just ask! Maybe i didnt made myself clear at beggining, i see now one should adapt to how the town plays. Unlike you i dont throw random FoS and votes "just to get the ball rolling", you can do some analysis checking the time and the way people post (i think i have said the same thing like 4 times now?) | ||
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You are literally going after everyone who has found you suspicious. And these are all pretty weak claims. Show me my many votes or FoS for saying this please | ||
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You start going off on Ange77 for "siding with you too strongly"? I think you are taking bandwaggoning a bit too far. She had her own analysis. My exacts words were "I forgot to put this in my last post, i also, dont like how Ange sided by me so strongly. That REALLY raised my eyebrown when i read it." My one and onyl target has been suki, saying that thing about IF Ange777 turns red was just a random thought, a possibility we cannot discard, dont you think? And i dont understand what are you saying here, please post what i said or ask me/show me if i wrote something weird to your eyes You explicitly state that you are going to disregard Solstice and don't bother to defend yourself. | ||
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I'm not very good at writing so I try to keep it short and simple. pretty much you said it. Thats my response, my accusation to suki was 4 points long and i tried to make it clear, if thats not enough for him, then what more can i say? -------------------------------- change of plans, i have to go, i will say it again. VOTE FOR SUKI PLEASE! | ||
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On June 02 2012 06:14 Vivax wrote: Also, remember that unforgiven_ve was the first to push the case against suki. That will reveal a lot about his alignment too. . need i say more? | ||
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Heist, you not helping your cause, you did not showed me my MANY ATTACKS against the people You said were attacking me...and if you really read the thread, you can see I was the FIRST one voting for suki, 24 hours Ago, so, explain to me please, siding whit who? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 07:08 Ange777 wrote: In the beginning I just thought Unforgiven's play to be awful (no offense!). non taken ;D... Ok, to the people who says i could be mafia and just pushed the case on suki as mafia strategy...STOP THIS...remember this is a extended mayority lynch, the more you confuse people the harder it gets to reach mayority, now you see why i said "PLAY SMART" ?? its even more important in this kind of game... check my last posts, besides me, who was REALLY PUSHING on suki? answer: nobody. | ||
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On June 02 2012 08:32 s0Lstice wrote: This is just rude. Cut it out. It takes 7 votes to lynch someone, and you spent the time before the lynch flopping around like a fish out of water, reduced to pleading for votes. It's not our fault you drew so much suspicion for playing like shit. lol, just saw this, sorry  ... its just what you experts refer as "metagame"? | ||
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My main suspect, is a tie: Heis / Xatalos One of them is mafia, i dont think both are scum because his way of play would just be ridiculous, being overagressive since the begging ------------- s0Lstice, dont make personal anything i write here, its just a game...you will see more "name calling" from me, so relax | ||
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suki mafia, xalatos town: suki just used my "town leader" missunderstanding to try and push a mislynch on anyone Xalatos had on sight, he wanted to get a bandwagon rolling as long it werent on any of his friends, the other two mafias waited to see if this worked to jump at last hour. suki mafia, Xalatos mafia: They accorded in their QT they would try to take "town leadership" to their own, Xalatos states a case, suki pushed it, some other couple townies fall for this, and the 3rd mafia joins to guarantee a mayority Because my post are a bit(lot?) confusing to townies, they want to use this to gain some advantage, leaving me alive and triying to get Ange777 instead. suki mafia, heist town: heist missread everything i posted and just falls for the starting random post against me, he even dedicates a lines to me + Show Spoiler + On June 01 2012 01:21 heist wrote: @Unforgiven_ve: As you play more, you'll come to see that we all have really high standards for worthwhile and quality posts. Generalities tend to be low on that list. It doesn't help us decipher alignments and is really easy to hide behind as scum precisely because it is so comfortable. What we value our your opinions and evaluations of other players. Your reads and who you end up supporting is crucial in the later stages. That said, you fall short. You do have to change something about your posting. I'll reserve judgment until I see some subsequent posts that aren't purely devoted to your defense. Yes, someone accuses you, you need to defend yourself. But offer more than simply that. I've looked over Xatalos' initial accusation and the subsequent accusation from Solstice and can definitely see where they are coming from. Your posts definitely can be read as wanting to cruise, stay relatively unnoticed, and taking the comfortable route to maintaining activity. And for a day 1 lynch, that's sometimes all you need ESPECIALLY if further posts don't attempt to fix any of this. suki mafia, heist mafia this is where it gets interesting, His first post a some random tips to me, attacks some random townies, wants to look "neutral" when my case was starting to get some heat, when things seemed to reach a finishing point, he drops this pearl + Show Spoiler + You are literally going after everyone who has found you suspicious. And these are all pretty weak claims. You start going off on Ange77 for "siding with you too strongly"? I think you are taking bandwaggoning a bit too far. She had her own analysis. You somehow tie together both suki and ange77 as mafia scum? What??? You explicitly state that you are going to disregard Solstice and don't bother to defend yourself. I am not completely convinced about Suki and the main accusation right now seems to refer to the switch vote to Ange77. We decided we wanted a day 1 lynch. We needed a majority. Perhaps he wanted to lay down his vote incase he missed the deadline. Bandwaggoning I find is useless accusation in and of itself. In a complete body of work it can greatly support a claim. But we need this majority for a lynch and I can completely see him changing his vote with Unforgiven's case rapidly losing steam. My vote is currently useless. I will be changing to Unforgiven_ve. His recent behavior is really undermining my previous judgment. ##Unvote ##Vote: Unforgiven_ve You know, just cassually voting to the main (innocent) target at the time...and then one hour before deadline, he cast his vote against suki, because you know, he said MANY TIMES lynching is preferably to nothing and he had to stand by his word ... im already seeing the mafia QT "HEY SUKI IM SORRY, WE NEED TO WINZ LOLZ" That makes him slightly higher on my list. FoS (and pretty sure vote, at least something really weird happens or if im alive at day 2) heist As always, if you dont understand something and/or want to ask something, please do. i'll be checking from my phone tonight | ||
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On June 02 2012 08:32 s0Lstice wrote: This is just rude. Cut it out. It takes 7 votes to lynch someone, and you spent the time before the lynch flopping around like a fish out of water, reduced to pleading for votes. It's not our fault you drew so much suspicion for playing like shit. may i remind you, pleading for votes to get a mafia(roleblocker) at D1, read my last post, and make a better one please, it worked one time, why not twice ;D | ||
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it's 2am here and i just got home, tomorrow morning i will try to point a few things, it's gonna be hard for me to get in here but i'll try, but just in case ##Vote heist | ||
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Also, vivax, what about this? + Show Spoiler + On June 02 2012 05:55 Vivax wrote: Also know that I will be voting for anyone except myself, should that help in achieving a majority. No matter what my opinion on the suspect is, the alignment flipping will unveil a crapload of information. That said, if suki is gonna flip town, I really hope you will be able to recognize Ange777's motives behind her intention to push a case on him. If suki flips mafia, then I was clearly wrong and might end up in trouble for defending him. That would also prove Ange777 innocent and everyone supporting the vote first (not the ones joining in when it was obvious). However, do you notice how there's actually noone defending suki as of now except me?While there are a bunch of persons trying to deflect the attention from Ange777. Really, it's disgusting to see how people turn from the lurker to the poster in the arc of three hours, whereas the poster has been active all the time. And all of that happening in the last hours, making the outcome more uncertain, the mafia stronger. And frankly, even if Ange777 would turn out to be town, all this last hour confusion is thanks to her and the decision to play games when she can't be properly active in them. You don't join a game of starcraft to go afk while you play chess either, then to come back asking others for help when the enemy is in your base, blaming one of the guys who was playing actively. If you are town, you should be really aware of the bad impact you are having on this game. I would frankly still lynch you just for that. I dont belive vivax is scum, nevertheless i will change my vote if neccesary, i think we still need 2 votes for a lynch? | ||
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Guys, because i think im right about heist, maybe i will die this night, the only thing in my favor is being a terrible poster (they killed s0Lstice for being good=, maybe they want me to be alive to get more people confused. You are understimating the proof against heist, i still think there's a ver high change that heist and xatalos are mafia, i see they are playing a pretty standard "active" mafia, dodging attacks and siding whit the mayority (not before making his "preference" obvious to the town) triying to gaing some town credit. Right now i would kill heist, the way he started to play the game and how he acted around the suki lynch are my main motivation. This posts If it's blatantly rediculous, DO NOT DO IT. You are almost confident suki is town, why are you placing your vote on him??? We still have a bit of time, closer to an hour. Now it just looks like you are bussing. and I changed bacause I was not very condifent in either a Suki or Ange77 lynch and my Superouman lynch was useless. You agree that Unforgiven seems more scummy. I don't like how you are giving up to commit to a worse read. screams mafia for me. | ||
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On June 05 2012 06:40 Vivax wrote: @ Unforgiven_ve Should be 7 votes on me right now. Also, I'm lynching myself cause i cba to argue with everyone. People should just see for themselves if they run over my defense.I'm done with explaining. trust me, i know how you feel, its not the way i post, if the town letting the mafia speak for them | ||
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On June 05 2012 07:01 ShiaoPi wrote: its after dead line...and after all a no-lynch is just as bad i know "you can always be wrong" but when you have a "pretty sure" town to be lynched you should use the chance that extended mayority gives us. | ||
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Newbie townie, his actitude and his defense were good enoguh for me, the problem here is We are dealing whit a bunch of a sheeps who let mafia (read heist- xatalos) lead their way of thought, They are triying since the begginingg of the game to take town leadership whit lame posts and triying to look helpful, their starting strategy (I'm sure) Was to be in the spotlight and when the town chooses a innocent just let them go for it whitout commiting too much. Compare day1 and day2 around Lynch time. See their voting pattern. Heist is mafia, I'm 75% sure about xatalos | ||
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Vote for heist, then vote for Xatalos and we will win. trust me. The reason my lasts post are so short is because im posting from my phone. | ||
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votes he would get lynchedm this system is different, you need half+1 | ||
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he wanted to guide me and kindly told me how the town need it to know my reads When me and soltice got it right, he went apeshit agressive (as far as i remember). Unlike the super-detectives we have in here (lolz metagame) i want you to read for yourself his filter and his behavior in all the game. Also, Xatalos wants to gain town credit voting for heist, maybe heist doesnt have time to play and he would gladly sacrifice for the team, seeing the game is ending Xatalos wants to assure N2-N3 kill, D3-D4 misslynch | ||
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that way we get information, and i dont think mod will kill 2 players at once, we have 1 game day left (2 tops)...he should le them live and see if they comeback | ||
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I was refering “confused“ because (as you say) my bad written post. If there's a no lynch today, my suspicion on xatalos would drop “a lot“ and austinc/shaopi Would be my second choice. There's no way a real townie would be that bad | ||
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Time whit this horrible players. | ||
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Playing whit lurkers and bad players. | ||
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Now, this is where it gets really interesting... Xatalos or austincc (aka super-Anacletus)? I don't think saopi is mafia, its between those two guys | ||
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On June 05 2012 07:01 ShiaoPi wrote: its after dead line...and after all a no-lynch is just as bad | ||
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On June 08 2012 05:47 ShiaoPi wrote: And if we want to shot into the dark (aka the lurkers) go with eishi...he was soft-defended by suki and has been lurking all game long. Seriously... On June 08 2012 05:24 ShiaoPi wrote: Well I will not switch my vote on heist. If you really only want one of eishi/heist then I say go with eishi, but no chance to convince you on Xatalos? Hmmm.... | ||
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I like to think its the first one, now xatalos/austin will confortably wait for a mislynch tomorrow...milton, you or me will die tonight, that's fo sho' | ||
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He tries to discredit me instead of dissolving my arguments and points against him. Its what all mafia (and bad townies) did every thime i posted something (LOLZ LEARN SUM ENGRISH) ... one of my main reasons to suspect xatalos | ||
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GG, REMEMBER THE MAINE! | ||
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On June 09 2012 08:24 austinmcc wrote: Nooooooooooooooo. GG all, and quite well played Xatalos. Ange sorry for soiling your good name! nub | ||
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The following players I think we could get lynched without too much problems: Unforgiven_ve Superouman Cattivik Ange777 lol | ||
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On June 09 2012 08:38 Miltonkram wrote: @ Unforgiven Stop insulting people. There is absolutely no place for it in the after game discussion. ok grandma | ||
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Xatalos 06-03-2012 01:07 PM ET (US) Buhahaha, this is golden!!! Thank you so much ShiaoPi for making my life easier   | ||
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On June 05 2012 11:41 Unforgiven_ve wrote: To austincc. His post shows a pretty standard townie play, his reasoning defending suki were valid for a Newbie townie, his actitude and his defense were good enoguh for me, the problem here is We are dealing whit a bunch of a sheeps who let mafia (read heist- xatalos) lead their way of thought, They are triying since the begginingg of the game to take town leadership whit lame posts and triying to look helpful, their starting strategy (I'm sure) Was to be in the spotlight and when the town chooses a innocent just let them go for it whitout commiting too much. Compare day1 and day2 around Lynch time. See their voting pattern. Heist is mafia, I'm 75% sure about xatalos Nova_Terra 05-31-2012 01:30 AM ET (US) Unforgiven just called for a town leader. if you have the time heist, i would try to take up this role. you shouldnt say that you want to be this leader, but you should make yourself it by making some analysis that looks pretty and by commenting on and criticizing other people. Try to sound nice thoughg, very important especially in a newbie game, as you can get lynched for being mean. | ||
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On June 09 2012 09:07 Xatalos wrote: Heh... You were pretty much 100% correct all along, but you kept insulting people and throwing random one liners, so nobody listened to you. You need to retain your reading skills and seriously work on how you convey your reads... Well, i had to login a lot form my phone, and honestly i lost interest at some point, i think it was after VIvax was lynched, you can show the way to someone, but you cant walk it for them. | ||
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On June 09 2012 09:25 Xatalos wrote: HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D This is so true by the way... I played in a "pretty risky way (metagame uh?)" exactly as you thought Yeah, if people kept it simple (as i say at the beggining of the game) and if we didnt have 8273467 lurkers, it would have been gg at D3 | ||
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On June 09 2012 09:27 Xatalos wrote: You played pretty standard disruptive and anti-town townie, on the other hand xD Yo, its just supersayian metagame | ||
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On June 09 2012 09:26 austinmcc wrote: The reason we got on your case is because you didn't "show the way." Pretty quickly you started posting one liners and conclusions without much else. When you argued your side, you never did so constructively. And it wasn't just the loss the one-liners after you lost interest, because you got called out for being an asshole N1. Yeah anac, Maybe you are right. | ||
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