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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 01:12 GMT
#1413
On May 15 2012 09:00 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 13:41 Eiii wrote:
On May 14 2012 11:24 PaqMan wrote:
While you're here Eiii:

On May 13 2012 18:51 Eiii wrote:
On May 13 2012 11:18 PaqMan wrote:
Hot damn that's nice. My FoS on Eiii stands, I really want him to contribute more of his thoughts on NT and I10f. But I feel confident in lynching NT.


man this whole situation kind of sucks. It's impossible for me to tell if NT is just playing really really badly (suggesting lynching for information when it's been EXPLICITLY mentioned in this game that that's a horrible idea) on purpose to try to solidify his newb town claim or if he actually just has no clue what he's doing. wifom wifom wifom. weird black-and-white statements like this
On May 12 2012 21:02 Nova_Terra wrote:
If you take a look through Layabouts and Eiii's filters, you will notice that there is a lot of suspicions of Eiii throughout. Eiiis filter comes across to me as defensively oriented, and he has been under suspicion all game. as l10f is going hard on him now, it makes sense to me that if one of them is scum the other is almost certainly innocent, and if one of them is town the other is probably scum.
Also now is not the time to be mislynching me, maybe that was day 2, but not now. that would screw us over

are pretty retarded too, but it's the same deal there.

obviously I feel l10f is pretty scummy at this point, since he's been attacking me for actions I've done that I can't really see as scummy. Between his overnight shift into pushing me as #1 scum as hard as possible, providing arbitrary lists and calling them 100% objective, then manipulating those lists to try to get people to accept them... I dunno, it feels like he's trying to disrupt and take control of town as much as possible which is pretty sketchy when we're so close to lylo.

My late-night snap decision on the subject is that we really, really can't let plays like N_T's stand. If we still had vigs then he should outright be shot instead of lynched, but it looks like we're out of those. voting for NT.


You think he's scum because he thinks your scum?...


My gut reaction is that he's scummy because he's calling out a lot of actions of mine as scummy. I have a hard time agreeing with him, so it feels more to me like he's trying to quickly shift attention onto me using whatever means he has available than him actually scumhunting. My feelings are probably wrong. Sorry, I thought the 'obviously' I threw in at the beginning of that sentence was enough to make it clear what I was trying to convey. I wouldn't have said anything about him if you hadn't asked :s

In my defense, though, it was kind of 3am.


Of course you have hard time agreeing, because you're scum? Why are you even saying hard time? If you're town you know you don't agree. If you're scum you know you don't agree. What do you mean shift attention onto you? I had no attention on me until I accused you! So what shifting? There was no shifting. I'd been advocating your lynch since day 2!

To everyone else, think about what reason I would possibly have to come out and point fingers at people if no one suspected me in the first place! If I was scum, I could have lurked my way into victory, which is what Eiii is doing, and will accomplish if you lynch me today.

I think I deserve a chance to prove my reads on Eiii now since we've had three mislynches since I first accused him.


You completely avoided Marv's case and you've done nothing to stop me from supporting your lynch.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 02:00 GMT
#1414
I love how the remaining players except for marv are all lurkers/inactives. Let's just make it easier for scum to win...
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 03:37 GMT
#1415
Froggynoddy what are your scumreads?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 05:00 GMT
#1417
Well I'm going to lay my vote down now on Sinensis.
Goodnight people. Hope the rest of y'all start posting more tomorrow.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 05:01 GMT
#1418
Eiii: why do you think I10f is scummier than Sinensis?

Marv I hope you respond to my questions tomorrow!
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 15 2012 05:39 GMT
#1419
ebwop: scratch that, I'm going to wait until tomorrow
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 02:13 GMT
#1435
@Papapanda
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?


He's managed to stay off of everyone's radar, appears to contribute, and when called out threatens to purposely play anti-town.

basically he's just sitting back letting town kill themselves. That's a pretty good scum agenda.

On May 16 2012 05:25 Sinensis wrote:
I don't have anything to say to the pressure unless anyone has specific questions. They finally got BlazingHand. I don't know who to vote honestly.

I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling. Though now that I think about it grush has been alive for an awfully long time considering he claimed blue so early, also probably the weakest filter left.

Be back after work in 6 hours.


still ignoring the contradictions I pointed out, still ignoring the wishy-washyness.


I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling.


Jumping on a wagon.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 02:16 GMT
#1436
putting my vote down on him now.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 02:21 GMT
#1437
ebwop: I10f your case against Eiii is weak.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 04:43 GMT
#1439
On May 16 2012 12:19 Sinensis wrote:
Papapanda I have a post on this exact same page that says who I'm thinking about. I am thinking about l10f, you, and grush. Grush only because he's still alive and was the first to claim blue... but that's really all I've got left. My two big picks for scum this game both flipped town and now everyone, grush aside, is starting to look the same to me.

There's no way mafia would have hit some of the people that got hit before grush if he was town. l10f and papapanda are talking too much right now to justify voting them when grush is still around. I'm going to put my vote on grush.

I'm still waiting for PaqMan to ask me questions if he has them, if you want to just vote for me though that's fine too. Your loss.


You obviously haven't been reading my posts. + Show Spoiler +
On May 16 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote:
@Papapanda
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?


He's managed to stay off of everyone's radar, appears to contribute, and when called out threatens to purposely play anti-town.

basically he's just sitting back letting town kill themselves. That's a pretty good scum agenda.

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 Sinensis wrote:
I don't have anything to say to the pressure unless anyone has specific questions. They finally got BlazingHand. I don't know who to vote honestly.

I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling. Though now that I think about it grush has been alive for an awfully long time considering he claimed blue so early, also probably the weakest filter left.

Be back after work in 6 hours.


still ignoring the contradictions I pointed out, still ignoring the wishy-washyness.


Show nested quote +
I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling.


Jumping on a wagon.

. Every time I quote myself I cry inside.

You haven't addressed your contradiction.
You haven't addressed your wishy-washyness.
You haven't posted "stuff" on I10f like you said you would.
You're not even trying to convince me that you're town and my vote is wrong.
And how exactly is it my loss for voting you?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 22:24 GMT
#1449
Awesome job.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 22:25 GMT
#1450
And no marv, i did not fail to note the "difference in motivation between I10f and Sinensis".
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 22:29 GMT
#1451
Sinensis is scum, there's nothing else to it. I've made the case and he made a response, which was basically a soft omgus, and he obviously feels no need to address some of the strong points against him.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 23:04 GMT
#1453
I wasn't being sarcastic. While it was answered directly, I did answer your question.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 16 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote:
@Papapanda
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?


He's managed to stay off of everyone's radar, appears to contribute, and when called out threatens to purposely play anti-town.

basically he's just sitting back letting town kill themselves. That's a pretty good scum agenda.


Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 Sinensis wrote:
I don't have anything to say to the pressure unless anyone has specific questions. They finally got BlazingHand. I don't know who to vote honestly.

I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling. Though now that I think about it grush has been alive for an awfully long time considering he claimed blue so early, also probably the weakest filter left.

Be back after work in 6 hours.


still ignoring the contradictions I pointed out, still ignoring the wishy-washyness.


Show nested quote +
I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling.


Jumping on a wagon.



I'm sure he's scum. I haven't seen anything from him to convince me otherwise.

He also placed an unexplained ninja vote on grush.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 16 2012 23:04 GMT
#1454
Edit:
On May 17 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
I wasn't being sarcastic. While it wasn't answered directly, I did answer your question.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 16 2012 11:13 PaqMan wrote:
@Papapanda
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 papapanda wrote:
Paqman:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 09:40 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 08:15 marvellosity wrote:
On May 15 2012 08:04 PaqMan wrote:
If no one else thinks Sinensis is scummy then I have no problem supporting an I10f lynch. Day has just started so I want to see everyone else's opinions.


After reading my case, do you think Sinensis is scummier? If so, what is it that tips the balance for you?


Yeah I'm more confident in Sinensis being scum than I.
His two content-less PbP cases am which he hardly makes a doctor. He doesn't push his scumreads. Who contradicts himself in a horrible way (and didn't even address it when I brought it up). He's should recently become wishy-washy now that I two consistent heal (layabout and NT) are tonight. Give me most-recent three: + Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2012 03:24 Sinensis wrote:
Next time I want a long post, I'll save this thread the convenience.


I call him out on purposely trying to fluff up his cases, and he tells me that he's going to purposely play anti-town and not contribute.


basically, all the options listed in Marvellosity FoS and knows too his defense.


This is your reply to Marvel's question. Like marvel said, sinensis doesn't seem to have an agenda for what he is doing so far, but l10f seem to be more oriented. Can you address this point?


He's managed to stay off of everyone's radar, appears to contribute, and when called out threatens to purposely play anti-town.

basically he's just sitting back letting town kill themselves. That's a pretty good scum agenda.


Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:25 Sinensis wrote:
I don't have anything to say to the pressure unless anyone has specific questions. They finally got BlazingHand. I don't know who to vote honestly.

I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling. Though now that I think about it grush has been alive for an awfully long time considering he claimed blue so early, also probably the weakest filter left.

Be back after work in 6 hours.


still ignoring the contradictions I pointed out, still ignoring the wishy-washyness.


Show nested quote +
I could go for either Papapanda or l10f just because I have a feeling.


Jumping on a wagon.



I'm sure he's scum. I haven't seen anything from him to convince me otherwise.

He also placed an unexplained ninja vote on grush.

t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 04:02 GMT
#1478
Hi, my name is PaqMan, and I am a tracker.

+ Show Spoiler [breadcrumb] +
On May 05 2012 12:43 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
Mmmhmm. You realize I fosed 1 scum in sinani206 when no one else did, and my reasoning for voting katina is not the same thing as what DYH and BH said.


Then what was your reason for voting her? Becuase all you said was + Show Spoiler +
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.



Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
I spent day 1 voting for 2 scum.


Easy explanation. You knew your scummates were inactive because they werent talking in your QT, so you bussed them. I don't see you coincidentally voting for the two scum that get modkilled. And now you're using that for town credit.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
TBH I sheeped BH on his vote on N_T but that is because he seemed townie enough.


Voting with BH because BH seemed town? Couldnt be much lazier.
In BHs last game (LII) he tunneled marv his entire game. Guess what marv flipped (town).

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.


You say its bull now, but did you do anything to stop it? Nada! you let it run its full course without any objections whatsoever.

I dont like theuls. Sloosh looks like scum.

now excuse my, im not completely sober. TGIF ftw!


I tried to spell out TRACKER but it's a hell lot harder than it looks. I forgot to put in the R also.
theuls is sleuth spelled backwards, except I managed to spell it wrong. But it means detective, investigator, tracker.



My results for tracking since N1 are as follows:

+ Show Spoiler [track results] +
N1:
I tracked SlOosh, no actions made.

N2: I tracked layabout, no actions made.

N3: I tracked Eiii, no actions made.

N4: I tracked Sinensis, Roleblocked!

N5: I tracked Sinensis, no actions made.

The reason I didn't claim the day before is because only Vanilla Townies are notified if they are role blocked, so I didn't want to give myself away.


The last two scum is Roleblocker and Godfather. This is significant information because it means that the last two scum are always visiting other people.
The roleblocker is visiting someone to RB them, and the GF is visiting someone to send in the kill. They're always moving.
This basically clears Sinensis as VT.

The remaining people are: grush57, marvellosity, papapanda, and froggynoddy.
Two of them are scum.
I would be completely okay with lynching marv. In fact, last night I was pretty confident that either me or him would be killed. I was not expecting Eiii to die. I think the only reason they wouldn't kill him is because he might push a mislynch.

I will go back and read into them but they need to be our main focus.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 04:15 GMT
#1479
ebwop: vanilla townies are NOT* notified if they are role blocked.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 12:50 GMT
#1486
Sine I tried tracking you but I got roleblocked, so I tracked you again (which was stupid on my part).
It's obvious that the roleblocker was going around RBing every townie he can. I don't see why they would have randomly stopped in fear of getting tracked.

I was playing very stupid and I JUST REALIZED last night that you can't be scum because the last two scum have been visiting other people the whole time.

I will be back later today. Sine seriously reconsider your vote on me and tell me who, out of the 4 people I named, you think is scum.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 13:15 GMT
#1488
Froggynoddy is scum. And until he comes in here and starts talking I'm going to vote him.
##Vote:Froggynoddy
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 18 2012 21:15 GMT
#1508
I have not been giving this game the attention it deserves. That is why i did not notice your breadcrumbs papapanda. I just got home from school and I'm catching up now.
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