Newbie Mini Mafia VI

On March 30 2012 20:23 omnomMuffins wrote:
I can manage to take a peak once a day

On March 30 2012 22:25 marvellosity wrote:


I like your style.

On March 30 2012 23:25 Radfield wrote:


In this setup?

A: Withhold your kill, claim you took a hit, ride your confirmed town status to victory.

B: Withhold your kill, Jailkeeper is convinced he found the scum, force a mislynch, a roleclaim and a wasted day.

Both are interesting gambits, and there may be a couple other situational reasons as well.

On March 31 2012 01:18 KharadBanar wrote:
So by all means, post away on Day 1, but let's get more into "real" game play after that.

On March 31 2012 03:45 Kohbee wrote:
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but this is EXACTLY why we play mafia. =/= To read other players, to see if we can outsmart and outthink them to lead our team (town or scum) to victory.

* If accusations, lurker philosophy and arguments (alongside 30 hour waits) are not what you are looking for maybe you should consider not playing forum mafia.

On March 31 2012 12:15 Therapist. wrote:
The gator who killed Radfield has already been euthanized. As will one of us very soon.

On March 31 2012 20:32 KharadBanar wrote:
So there's already something fishy going on.
First, Radfield dies, then he somehow manages to post in the thread. But not only that, he also misstates something from his own OP.
Conclusion: That's not Radfield, that's an impostor!

We can however not vote for him because he's officially dead, and you can't vote for dead people, as per the OP.
So that's where we are now: Our host is dead, and an impostor roams free, and that's not even including the scum within our game.

On March 31 2012 23:42 strongandbig wrote:.
Imo, therapist's euthanasia threat is so scummy he can't possibly be scum, no one would say something like that before going to actually murder someone... Unless that's exactly wha he wants us to think and he really is scum, and is hiding in plain sight.

On April 01 2012 01:30 HiroPro wrote:


Is there a reason that you feel the need to adopt a character? You wouldn't be trying to hide something, would you?

On April 01 2012 04:18 strongandbig wrote:
I'm going to keep looking at you suspiciously.

HiroPro wrote: strongandbig - We have 2 "real" days to vote and discuss before night.

On April 01 2012 03:38 Kohbee wrote:
You were my second scum team member.

On April 01 2012 22:07 FourFace wrote:

This can be a scum tell especially because HiroPro didn't have the chance to get an idea of Kohbee's judgement capabilities so early in the game (he had no reason to find him suspicious).

On April 01 2012 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
Sensible post Kharad. I don't quite understand Fourface's case honestly.

Unrelatedly, I got a Nexus birthday cake!

##Vote: Solohan50

On April 02 2012 00:40 strongandbig wrote:
Either way we have the additional benefit that we're lynching someone who made a shitty push, then acted really defensive about it.
##vote: Kohbee [\b]

On April 02 2012 04:21 KharadBanar wrote:
No worry, he just ninja'd three of you and gave an actual reason for his "lurking", which in reality was him being stranded in the desert.

##unvote

On April 02 2012 04:34 Therapist. wrote:
What defense do you think I should offer for myself? It seems like a waste to try to convince people that I'm not scum, because no matter what it's my word against theirs. Besides, this isn't really about me. If after everyone expresses so much doubt against me and I get lynched and you see that I am Townie, the town learns a lot about the people who went after me!

I went after Kohbee right away because somebody needed to take the bait and get things started. Direct attacks get strong responses from everyone, so I think it was effective to do so.

On April 02 2012 05:10 marvellosity wrote:


You seem to not understand how you sound and come across. You went off on one at someone else on the thread earlier just because they called an idea stupid.

But when you're talking about gay this and finger in my ass that, you're being way ruder than anyone has been to you.

Just think before you post please.

On April 02 2012 05:18 Mattchew wrote:
He reacted as I would as town.

On April 02 2012 05:59 Therapist. wrote:
My vote on Kohbee stands. I think his posting patterns are the kind that would have people start shifting blame around the wrong places while he quietly steps back and occasionally changes his target to make sure no solid read can be made.

On April 02 2012 08:49 HiroPro wrote:
What on earth is going on? Why on earth are we lynching one of the most pro-town people. Therapist's main contribution has been imagining a ridiculous WIFOM scenario and people are voting for Kohbee!!!

Unvote: Solohan50

##Vote: Therapist.

On April 02 2012 14:21 omnomMuffins wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I wasn't on, my support staff totally disappeared today so I was running the invitational by myself all day (it was said on stream by the casters for proof). #1

Basically to explain my vote against FourFace was that I really have no patience for dealing with people with bad attitudes and his comment that he was reprimanded for stuck me in a bad way. #2

I see that we lynched a townie, and I will post my conclusions on people tomorrow after I wake up (been working about 20 hours straight), and get a chance to actually digest what is going on

On April 02 2012 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Kohbee, the problem atm is that I'm increasingly thinking that claiming cop was dumb at best, and scummy at worst. Revealing yourself before you've had the chance to do anything just seems so counterproductive.

Plus we don't even know if we have a doc or jailer on our team should we actually even agree you should be protected.

On April 02 2012 22:04 Kohbee wrote:

I can't be in a scum pair because i am not scum. however solohan, omnomnom and strong should all be looked at very very closely

I don't need coaching. I will be ready and willing to answer all questions, however I will not hesitate to call out stupid when i see it.

On April 02 2012 22:26 Kohbee wrote:


Marvel was high on my scum list, but there is no way a scum player would be the finisher to saving a blue's lynch.

On April 02 2012 22:56 Kohbee wrote:
nope... just awesome or stupid.

On April 02 2012 23:07 strongandbig wrote:
If Kohbee is scum, then we know for sure that I'm not scum and solohan isn't scum. I pushed the lynch on Kohbee all day

On April 02 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think Therapist is a more likely mafia than Kohbee, just about. We're running out of time and I don't really know what to do. This could just be a desperate ploy from a Kohbee mafia as he's about to die, or he could be telling the truth. Therapist has posted quite cleverly but much less. I'm open for anyone with some strong leadership because apparently that isn't me atm :/
##Vote: Therapist

On April 02 2012 08:54 marvellosity wrote:
EBWOP: I still think Therapist. is townie, but I think the chance he's mafia is a bit higher right now than Kohbee.

On April 02 2012 22:55 strongandbig wrote:
Kohbee I agree with you that if you are not scum, then the people who switched their votes off of you after your last-minute claim should be considered probably town. They could have just kept their votes on you and then claimed afk after your lynch.

However we need to remember that people who were not already voting for you aren't cleared. Switching a vote to you after a blue claim would be an obvious scum tell when the claim turns out to be true. It would be much safer just to let you live and roleblock or shoot you.

So where does that get us? If you are town, then four face would be clean. However he's the only one who actually switche off of you. Hiropro and marvellosity also helped save you, so I suppose hiropro is also town, since he could have kept his vote on solohan and allowed you to die. However, marvellosity had to take an action. Therefore he could not have said he was afk for your claim and lynch. Therefore, if you claimed, were lynched, and flipped blue, marvellosity would have been the obvious next target - not worth it for him if he's mafia, when they can just roleblock you. So, if you are town then the scum would be two out of me, marvellosity, omnom, solohan, and kb. Since it's not me, then we have a group of four out of whom 2 are mafia; however, you obviously have no reason to believe I'm town, so call it 2/5.

However! This whole analysis is only valid if you are town. You could also be scum - a distinct possibility in my opinion. Next post will have that analysis. Sorry if I get ninja'd, I'm typing this on an iPhone.

On April 03 2012 01:45 Kohbee wrote:
i want my question answered. and when going through filters to have quoted the post i am responding to makes it easier to read

On April 03 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:


Did I go too far down the wifom rabbit hole? My main point was to answer kohbee's claim that we could go from the vote on him to such a small list of potential scum, and that it's a bit more complicated than he made it out to be.

On April 03 2012 01:33 Solohan50 wrote:
A last minute vote-switch to the Therapist bandwagon would be the perfect place for scum to hide. It gives them all the credibility in the world, even if they have to miss out on the supposed "Cop". What better way to pretend you're not scum than to say "But I saved the Cop at the end?".

It makes even more sense if you think the roleclaim is false and that Kohbee is actually scum. If he is indeed scum, I'm willing to bet that his scum buddy switched vote at the last minute when he realized that the lynch vote was going to take Kohbee out first day. On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie.

On April 03 2012 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, can we move on to something a little more... productive?

On April 03 2012 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
Let's start poking people!

On April 03 2012 02:20 strongandbig wrote:


Did I go too far down the wifom rabbit hole? My main point was to answer kohbee's claim that we could go from the vote on him to such a small list of potential scum, and that it's a bit more complicated than he made it out to be.

On April 03 2012 01:33 Solohan50 wrote:
A last minute vote-switch to the Therapist bandwagon would be the perfect place for scum to hide. It gives them all the credibility in the world, even if they have to miss out on the supposed "Cop". What better way to pretend you're not scum than to say "But I saved the Cop at the end?".

It makes even more sense if you think the roleclaim is false and that Kohbee is actually scum. If he is indeed scum, I'm willing to bet that his scum buddy switched vote at the last minute when he realized that the lynch vote was going to take Kohbee out first day. On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie.

On April 03 2012 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, can we move on to something a little more... productive?

On April 03 2012 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
Let's start poking people!

On April 11 2012 14:51 omnomMuffins wrote:
The problem IMO of being obnoxiously aggressive is that it puts everyone on the complete defensive, and makes it hard to make reads off of cadence and sentence structure because of that. Again, I have no place to talk because the only read I had about town/mafia was KB and S&B. I couldn't pick mafia out of a candy bag if they were the only kit kat

There needs to be a balance of being aggressive, but not using obnoxious language that sets everyone on edge.

Sure, town can have problems from being too polite, but the level of aggression put forward on day 1 and until Kohbee was lynched by the two of them (and myself when I got pissy at them) was so high that it was daunting to even think about posting because of their language and so on.