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I'm not /in, so feel free to disregard my comments, just thought I'd throw that out there. | ||
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On March 03 2012 13:16 gumshoe wrote: So lynching for information would be basically pointless? All lynches give information. Even in no-flip games. Try and find scum, then lynch. Not the other way around. | ||
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...for real this time. | ||
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On March 08 2012 12:21 Node wrote: Ah, screw it. /in AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
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On March 09 2012 01:01 Caller wrote: fuck it i'm bored /in AIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
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On March 09 2012 06:38 layabout wrote: something is telling me to /in .... On March 09 2012 04:46 Blazinghand wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QDYw2.png) | ||
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On March 09 2012 07:10 layabout wrote: VisceraEyes i sincerely hope that you will conduct yourself like a gentleman in this game. I'm the very paragon of manner in-game my friend. | ||
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I'm reading through, but I can already tell that Caller is going to rub me the wrong way. I see we've moved past the LaL discussion, that's a plus. At a glance I'd say I'm disinclined to vote Jackal today. Further details to come. Just letting everyone know I'm here and that I'm lurking hard. Smooches. | ||
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##Vote: Caller His original case on DocH was a fucking joke - it was literally "he could be scum, and if he's town he's likely to get killed anyway, so let's kill him!" This alone is bad enough, but then he backpedals, says that it was a reaction test. A reaction test. What kind of reactions was he looking for after a bullshit case like that? Either people calling it bullshit or people hopping onboard obviously. But here's where it gets strange. He gave cred to people who called his case bullshit. Whaaaaat? Let's roleplay for a minute: Let's say that Caller is town and is testing for reactions. In this exercise, let's assume for the moment that prplhz is scum, mkay? How do you think a scum prplhz is going to react to the case town-Caller put forward? If you said anything but "Call it fucking bullshit" then you're wrong. As scum, prplhz would be scared as shit of townCaller by virtue of Caller being an easily recognizable name on these forums, right? But then Caller does him a FAVOR and posts a laughable case on DocH. Like, I'd literally be doing a jig if I were scum reading Caller's initial case. But Caller gives TOWNCRED to prplhz for calling his case BS! That doesn't even make sense - scum benefit more from calling out Caller than town would in that situation - Caller's DocH case was bad enough without someone calling it bad. I think Caller put forward an easily recognizable shit case with the sole intention of buddying up by giving them towncred anyone who called it bullshit. For this reason, I'm pretty convinced that prplhz is town and Caller is scum. | ||
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Curu's case is at least worth looking at Jackal, and while I see both sides of the argument in his case, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt today. | ||
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On March 13 2012 03:51 Caller wrote: So your argument is basically that I want to make an easily flawed argument so I can get people to call me out and then I can go suck their dicks. Okay. I’ll start by saying that I don’t give a shit how people responded to my post, content-wise. I just know that mafia like to wait and be neutral until somebody makes a decisive point, and then they tend to follow-up with the party line. The whole point is to wait for someone to make a post going strongly one way or another and then wait for some overzealous scum to try and hammer the point in with as much vitrol as possible. Kind of like how you waited for DoctorH to criticize my Jackal post (which has the same reasoning as Curu’s later post that he DIDN’T call out) before proceeding to blast me for trying to suck town’s dick. Of course, someone who apparently is as “well-known” as me needs to suck dick to get people to listen to me. Yes that makes perfect sense. And of course I would then go ahead and suck Jackal’s dick too for calling out my shit post… oh wait a minute. Your “scenario” has assumptions that totally contradict each other. Good try on the chainsaw defense though, and thanks for reminding me that you’re in the game. Tell me why prplhz is "correct" for calling you out, but Jackal is not. There was no reason for you to specifically choose DocH for the reasons you gave and that's all Jackal was saying - now you're saying he's scum for it, but you clearly and specifically say prplhz was "correct" for calling you out. | ||
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I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here. The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected. Everyone needs to be voting for Caller. | ||
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On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote: Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why. I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you. You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're... Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia. One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics. Well you certainly don't "know" either because you're wrong about me. You're a fool if you're town. Luckily for me, I know you're not. Smooches. | ||
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STOP THAT RIGHT NOW. Caller is using you bro. You're a blunt object. How does it feel? | ||
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On March 13 2012 06:06 Jackal58 wrote: Perfect solution I shoot you. If you're town I die. If you're scum you die. If we both live lynch me and you're guaranteed scum. Win win. By posting this, you introduce another possibility: prplhz is town, you shoot, scum block you, lynch you and if you're town, lynch prplhz and he's town. But you know, it's like whatevs. | ||
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Wrong people are people too Jackal. | ||
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Everyone should be lynching Caller right now because he's manipulating the town. | ||
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On March 13 2012 06:51 Curu wrote: I am looking at it this way: If Jackal is Town and we leave him alive he basically has to shoot. And the probability is very high that he hits a Townie. So in this case we have dead Town Jackal, dead Town someone else, and a dead lynch target. No one to me looks obvious scum enough to warrant switching the lynch like this. If Jackal is Town and we lynch him then we've lynched a Townie day 1. We end up with a net of dead Town Jackal and lose a substitute dead lynch target. If Jackal is scum then yay. I don't feel like there is another candidate I want to lynch bad enough to take the tradeoff of high probability 2 Townie deaths vs low probability scum hit in the event that Jackal is Town. Yeah you guys go on about "omg we killed a blue" but look at what the blue does. IMO in this scenario mislynching a blue suicidal Vig is better for Town than mislynching a Vanilla Townie. This totally sounds like a post that someone who's sure enough someone is scum to lynch them posted.[/sarcasm] Notice how in this whole post, the only scenario in which Jackal is scum has six words and is buried in the rest of the bullshit. | ||
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On March 13 2012 07:37 Curu wrote: I actually wouldn't mind a VE lynch either right now. On March 13 2012 07:42 Curu wrote: There's only a few hours to deadline, don't let a no lynch happen. Nothing of great substance has been said or made about anyone else, put the lynch on Jackal today. Don't let a stupid last minute voteswitch (or no lynch) happen please. HURRRRRRR Go ahead and make contradictory statements within minutes of each other. You just advocated a mass voteswitch (me) and virtually in the same breath decry a mass voteswitch. You're so scum it's not even funny. The fact that you're on Jackal has nothing to do with it - what I have a problem with is how you are posting. Personally. I don't like your posts, not your vote. I don't like your vote either, but that has nothing to do with my suspicion of you Curu. | ||
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On March 13 2012 09:25 Caller wrote: Like I care about my reputation. You can think whatever the hell you want of my actions, I don't give them any consideration. I just want to kill mafia. So make sure you don't slip or else i'll be on your ass like it was your first day in prison. "See guys?! See how fearlessly town I am?! And witness my overwhelming enmity against the mafias! GRRRRRRZZZ!!" I think Caller is pouring it on a little thick, but maybe that's just a playstyle thing. Caller is still scum. Everyone should STILL be voting for him if they're not. | ||
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On March 13 2012 10:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: God... it's late and I don't want to think right now... ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel until I find a better reason. wat | ||
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You can't see me, but I'm pursing my lips in disdain. | ||
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Caller At first glance, you might think Caller is town simply because he's calling people out and gung-ho about every post. I'd like everyone to take into account that there are players here on TL that are capable of fearlessly posting regardless of their alignment or role. That being said, I still feel strongly that Caller is scum manipulating town here. Going over his posts, I noticed a couple of themes: 1) Stifling discussion 2) Sowing insecurity/doubt 3) Lining up lynches Just take a look at his first few posts, you'll see what I'm talking about. Remember this post? I'd like you to note a couple of things. First of all, please note the three bolded names. We've got Jackal, prplhz and Mr. Wiggles. Jackal and Mr. Wiggles get at least mentioned - but I'm having a hard time seeing the point in bolding prplhz. The most odd thing is, if you go back and read prplhz' concern with Caller's case, it's exactly the same concern that Jackal had with Caller's case! I mean, prplhz is slightly more verbose, but the spirit of their argument is virtually identical - Caller's reason for choosing DocH is nonexistant, and his logic is terrible. So why is prplhz not scummy for it but Jackal is? This is a question he's refused to answer in spite of being asked. As close as I can figure it, he has a problem with the fact that Jackal didn't use the word "retarded" in his post on the matter. Anyway, he hardly mentions prplhz again in that post, in spite of his name being bolded. Mr. Wiggles at least gets an honorable mention at the bottom for "not wanting to offend anyone". I like Wiggles, he's a nice guy. He wouldn't want to offend anyone as town either sir...that's a null as fuck point on Wiggles. But don't worry - he's only automatically red if Jackal flips red....somehow. He doesn't really elaborate on why. Just kinda says it. Caller is scum, and someone needs to be shooting the fuck out of him tonight. prplhz Oh, to be prplhz and scum. To be honest I thought he was town at first - but then I got around to his push on Jackal. But I'll get to that in a second. First I want to talk about him calling out Caller. Now, Caller's case on DocH was scummy as fuck. It was baseless and made no fucking sense. Prplhz goes back and forth with Caller a couple of times, here are his posts. On March 12 2012 03:40 prplhz wrote: @Mr. Wiggles What's your role mate? @Caller Excluding the "he used pro-town as the first player" argument, the only argument you have against DoctorHelvetica is that he's supposedly more scary as scum than as town. This is somewhat irrelevant unless we can't find anybody else who is scum + Show Spoiler + and you're not using "nash equilibrium" right, unless maybe you're using it make your case sound smarter than it actually is It's self contradictory how you're saying "my job is to find scum and lynch them", and then you want to lynch a guy, not because he is scum but because in your opinion he's more scary as scum than as town. How does that make any sense? Why don't you want to lynch into Jitsu and gumshoe? You said at least one of them is scum, that's 50% chance to lynch scum just by dumb luck and a smart guy than you can probably increase those odds. You should shape up or you are going to get lynched. On March 12 2012 04:14 prplhz wrote: No, it's quite simple. You say that your job is to lynch mafia. You say that AT LEAST one out of Jitsu and gumshoe are mafia, that's at least 50% chance to hit scum if you just lynch blindly into them. You don't provide any argument as for why DoctorHelvetica is scum. This means that you don't have any reason to think that he's scum outside of the 5/23 chance that he's scum/traitor by dumb luck. Your little matrix is extremely naïve, borderline dumb. If you have some secret plan and you rely on all townies to let you go through with it without requiring you to explain yourself, then you are playing mafia wrong. You are a smart guy and you shouldn't be playing mafia wrong. I'm just saying that you need to shape up and if you don't shape up then you're going to get lynched. If you are going to shape up then cool, if not then we have a problem. Or well, at least you have a problem. Note the bolded statements: they imply that prplhz thinks that Caller is acting scummy (if prplhz = town, and town lynch scum and Caller is scum then prplhz lynches Caller...simple). But here's prplhz' very next post. On March 12 2012 08:06 prplhz wrote: Yea, I don't know about this jaybrundage lynch either. 1)I don't think Caller is a good lynch either. 2)The guy is being useless but 3)I don't think there's anything particularly scummy about the way he is doing it. Even in the face of a lot of townies disliking him he's not doing anything to stop this and 4)his lynch isn't really facing any resistance either. The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad, the guy isn't really acting scummy. He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie. The Caller lynch seems like something that Jackal58 would oppose in his characteristic laconic, passive aggressive manner. Caller is being dumb but he's being blatant about it and there's nothing scummy about that and Jackal58 is usually one of the first to notice stuff like that. The fact that5) I've been on board the Caller-is-scummy-idea since the beginning seems like something that would make a town Jackal58 think everything over twice. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm a horrible player who only does horrible things + Show Spoiler +  I think that Jackal58 is scum. ##Vote Jackal58 Let's take note of all the things prplhz says about Caller in this post. 1) bad lynch 2) useless 3) not scummy 4) no resistance to lynch (lol while resisting lynch) 5) scummy? One of these things is not like the others - hilariously, that one thing is the the thing he was saying about Caller IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THIS POST. So which is it prplhz? Is Caller being dumb and useless, but townie? Or is he being maliciously dumb and useless because he's scum? Prplhz doesn't make mistakes like this as town. Prplhz is scum and should be on our lynch docket tomorrow if he's not dead. | ||
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So I'm giving Jackal the benefit of the doubt - he has until the middle of tomorrow to blow my fucking mind with some uber-town scum-hunting. If he doesn't, I'll let you gift him to us tomorrow. But you're fucking next guys. | ||
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Caller, you're either going to die tonight to vigs or your getting lynched tomorrow. I don't care which. I prefer you die tonight though so your posts don't have to offend my eyes tomorrow. | ||
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On March 13 2012 22:23 Caller wrote: if anything vigs should be on viscera. i'm not sure if you're the village idiot or what but you're sure as hell an idiot. Any other stellar observations you'd care to make before you die Caller? | ||
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I'm hoping some enterprising young vig takes care of Caller for me because I think prplhz will be a much easier pill for town to swallow. What do you think about Jitsu gumshoe? About Jackal? | ||
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What brought you to that conclusion prplhz? Was it my case on you or my (same) case on Caller? | ||
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On March 13 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote: If Jackal58 is scum then he's putting himself in a pretty bad position here and I don't think (or hope) that he'd do that as scum. Is this for real? You didn't have this thought (hope) yesterday when you were pushing for his lynch. In fact, you thought he was the very BEST lynch yesterday. What's changed between then and now besides the fact that...no one has died? | ||
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I have to respectfully disagree. If Jackal is scum we'll know by tomorrow and if he doesn't "shape up" (you know, in the exact same way that Caller did NOT "shape up" yesterday when your read changed on him) I'll be all about his lynch tomorrow instead of you or Caller. But given his claim, if he's roleblocked tonight he'll have no choice but to turn on the town tomorrow. | ||
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On March 13 2012 23:18 Caller wrote: whatever. ve i'm laying off you for now, i trust palmar's judgement. keep tunnel visioning and chasing red herrings though, although i personally suggest you look at the people i've been accusing (cough jackal and drh) regardless of how shitty you may think my reasoning is. Aww come on Caller - I'm not laying off you because you "trust Palmar's judgement". I'm getting you killed because you're scum. But you know, feel free to just ignore me if you want...that will make it easier to get you lynched. In the future, I suggest you claim scum AFTER you get at least one townie killed. You know...being outnumbered as you are. | ||
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On March 13 2012 23:32 prplhz wrote: How the hell will we know this by tomorrow? Assuming that he really is the role he claims to be: If he just claims roleblocked then we don't know anything. If he shoots a townie then we would have been better off lynching him today. If he shoots scum then that's pretty cool. If he holds his shot then we're exactly where we were today. What the hell does "turn on the town" mean? "Turn on the town" means he'll have to flip some kind of switch that makes him stop being meek and actually get up in here and push for scum lynches with reasoning he's provided if he's still alive and thinks he can get away with claiming roleblocked. And I know JUST who I'd target if I were in Jackal's shoes, presuming they're town shoes. | ||
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Kurumi stop being unreasonably cryptic and trollish. If you're acting like a Town Jester/VI. Help us find scum or I'm going to either try and convince vigs to kill you or push for your lynch. (sorry GM or Qatol or whoever is about to berate me for my frustration) | ||
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Really though, that's a good excuse...FOR ME TO POOP ON! prplhz you need to respond to my post. Your very life may depend on it. INTRIGUE!!! | ||
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It's true, I made it no secret that I was lurking D1. It's not strange at all if you actually read my posts. Care to explain your complete absence from the thread? | ||
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We found the lurker among the scum guys. Go read Katina's filter from BCAC - she was our resident lurker in that game too - she actually won it for us. If someone doesn't shoot her, she needs to be forced to contribute tomorrow or be put on the docket for lynch. | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:44 Katina wrote: <3 I haven't technically been absent. I have been reading through everything and you my dear sir looked worthy enough to say something to. Cool story, bro. You never mentioned me until I called you out. Was I bringing some unwanted attention towards you that made you feel the need to try and flip it back onto me? Yes, you can tell by my explosion in activity that I'm scared of "attention" madame. Pull the other one. I was referring to your absence during the very lynch you accused me of avoiding. Where were you during that time? You realize we no-lynched, correct? | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:59 Katina wrote: Yep, I'm aware there was a no-lynch. I wasn't here (obviously) but apparenlty half the town wasn't here either. It's more odd for you to be gone during a lynch, considering your usual activity level. I was here - I was lurking, actively. I wasn't interested in lynching Jackal and was completely fine with a no-lynch. If you think that's scummy, that's your right - but yeah, I was here. | ||
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Jackal, I approve of your target and wish you the best sir. | ||
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You let us know when you can say that with any kind of context Palmar. | ||
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On March 14 2012 04:14 Palmar wrote: the reaction test bullshit is stupid, but that doesn't make him scum. I already explained this in PMs. In addition, his reactions to the pm conversations we've had have been fairly townie. Since I don't really know how good caller is at this game I'm just going to apply a general frame of what I'd expect mafia to behave like to him, and he doesn't fit it. So you're saying that you believe that he planned it? That he literally made that post against DocH with the full intention of rescinding it later when approached about it? | ||
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Your response prompted me to go read them in context and found the mistake in my reasoning. But the way you've pushed Jackal and the way you've been insisting that you, Curu and Caller all have to be town based on the timing of the cases (which, upon further inspection are actually not really all that similar - I hope you realize that) still makes me queasy. If Jackal is town, I'm all about him shooting you in the face just to be done with the whole mess - but I'd be lying said that I don't have any doubts where before there was no question to me. I think Palmar is town. DocH is correct in saying that our reads align, but I'm still fairly clueless as to his alignment which scares me at this point. Most of my conversation with DocH has been ultimately pretty unhelpful in determining his alignment. All I have to go by are his actions, which align with my own actions (which also scares me.) What do you think about Jitsu prplhz? Jitsu, unless I'm mistaken, is DocH's lynch of choice. I'm in PM contact with Jitsu and I have to say - I'm really leaning town on Jitsu. | ||
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On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about? Mostly arguing about whether or not I should roleclaim to him. I asked him a few questions designed to help me determine his alignment, but those all flopped because he refused to read the thread at the time...something about being at work and hating effort. | ||
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Nah, no effort as in can't be arsed cowboy Palmar. | ||
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 Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him. While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.- | ||
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I wouldn't worry too much about my leap of faith where Palmar is concerned. He was right in Resistance - I should have realized he was townie sooner, and the way he was presenting himself was strikingly similar to that game. If you're so concerned about Jitsu's read of you, why don't you PM him and ask him yourself prplhz? I'll discuss whatever I please with him in MY inbox - any messages you have for Jitsu can be relayed either through the thread or if it's really that important to you, by expending one of your PM choices. I'm not sold on townPrpl myself, so I'm certainly not going to be your messenger. @Town Hey, ready for your minds to be blown?! rgTheShwortz and EchlonTees are playing in this game with us! :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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On March 14 2012 07:49 prplhz wrote: What the hell is the harm in asking my question to Jitsu? The only reason I can see is if you're scum and you don't want to bother him. My question is totally valid and as I told you, I've already brought it up in the thread but he just ignored it. I have no idea what my alignment has to do with that question. I don't want to use a PM option just to ask him a question that he might not answer anyway. I don't think what Palmar has said this game makes him look as town as he did in Resistance 2. Because I think Jitsu will answer you in thread. I was referring to his tone in PMland. Palmar was following the thread from the beginning of the game in Resistance. He replaced into this game, and as far as I'm aware has yet to read the thread in its entirety. Everyone else has had 3/4 of a cycle to establish their innocence. I chose Palmar for PMs because if he's town, I wanted to give him a head-start in establishing his innocence with me. If you're impatient, that's one thing - but my read is based on my experience in the game, which admittedly in a PM game extends beyond this thread. Again - if you want to see what I see, feel free to expend one of your PM choices like I did - if you're town, surely you can see the benefit of having an advanced read on Palmar, ya? Hell maybe then you could roleclaim to him too! Wouldn't that be fun? | ||
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On March 14 2012 08:17 layabout wrote: So when Jitsu and Caller put emphasis on scumslips to try to persuade us to vote for people, that would have been a pretty terrible thing for them to do if they are town, as it would be poor scumhunting at best likely to kill town.They would also appear to be scumhunting and they may cause people to focus on things that they should not? That's a slippery slope - not everyone shares my view of scumslips layabout. Some people find them just fine to scumhunt with. Not good players....but players nonetheless. | ||
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It's a matter of whether he feels like confirming himself is worth the risk of him dying and whether he thinks confirming himself is going to do any good in this town. I mean, this is a pretty decent town atmosphere right now - but come tomorrow, out come the fingers and votes and accusations all over again and the thread is gonna go to shit, I can just feel it. At least half the JubJubs are going to insta-vote Jackal if he's alive tomorrow - I wouldn't be surprised at all if he shot tonight HOPING to die. Stop goading him prpl. | ||
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Guy has one post. And here it is!On March 13 2012 06:27 rgTheSchworz wrote: Ho, there. Been on the road the last 36 h. Jaybrundage, you may not like my playstyle because I discovered you quickly in Arkham. I will, however, not lie this game. Gonna read some more, but as of now Node is giving off scummy vibes. Jackal s fine: Meta won t work here. Its the same Jackal that is concerned with helping town, although he claimed perhaps a bit too quickly............ ##Vote: Node | ||
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And I didn't ever 'compare' you with rg - only called you both out in the same post. What's with the defensiveness bro? Something to hide? Yeah, doesn't feel so great to be on the receiving end of random accusations based on nothing does it? How about instead of getting instantly defensive, you take it for what it was - a prod into activity? | ||
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On March 14 2012 09:09 EchelonTee wrote: yep i'm angered that you compare me to RGTS because I'm nothing like him either in my posts, or as a player. and yes, it IS a comparison when you group me with the same modifier; what's with people trying to use language semantics to fabricate nonsense. and are you implying that I have been making random accusations based on nothing, or are you self-defining your accusion as baseless? lmao. i was typing a long angry rant against you, but your post reminds me a lot of when I prodded slOosh in Surprisingly Normal VII. Not that you'd care about what happened there b/c i'm a scrubby newbie, obvi. I mean, I was totally serious when I said it was just a prod for activity. You can believe me or not - I don't give a shit. But don't take out whatever anger you're harboring for whoever or whatever the fuck out on me. First of all, I'm about the FURTHEST one can get from 'elitist' if that's the implication. I'm all about new players improving. Know why? Because I enjoy playing with the veterans who ARE annoyed with the median skill-level of our towns these days. They're better than me, and I feel like I can learn from them being in the same game as them. Now, I was NOT comparing you with rgTS. It was basically me saying 'Hey where the fuck have these two gotten off to' if I could verbalize my motivation for that post. Not 'wow, look at these two guys! one reminds me of the other or vice versa'. I was in no way comparing you two, so you need to chill the fuck out guy. I'm here to help. Unless you're scum. Then I'm here to watch you hang. | ||
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On March 14 2012 09:17 Caller wrote: o hey guys im back i see nothing interesting has happened, so i'm going to bed. Ask me if I'm surprised. Actually wait, don't. I don't care. This post must have had some purpose. AH yes, to demean any kind of effort anyone has put into the game since he's been gone. Got it. I can't think of a townie motivation to do this, can anyone else? | ||
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On March 14 2012 09:23 Mattchew wrote: aggressive VE ya'll should probably take a breather Oh, I'm breathin just fine my guy. What are your thoughts on the night's events? Surely there's been something more interesting than a tiff between ET and myself... | ||
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On March 14 2012 09:35 jaybrundage wrote: Im hesitant to put cases up till night ends. Although I think that a scummy lurker is still the best way to go. VE I really would like to call you scummy but I can't. It's the wierdest thing... I think.....I think...... ....You might be town :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Well, at least you don't have to worry about any suspicion from me, eh? | ||
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On March 14 2012 09:45 EchelonTee wrote: @VE fine no more huffin and puffin. you still think prplhz is scum? I can't decide. His response to my post was good - and I found that I was mistaken on one of my major points of contention. But something feels...off to me. I can't describe it. Like, the case on Jackal was/remains bad. Clearly, I mean it's based almost entirely on meta. ALMOST. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to manipulate you. The soul of the case against him is that his posts are different as town. Well, his posting reminds me of L...a town game of his where he was given a gun. So basically, that debunks the 'meta' part of the case. All that remains is Caller's analysis of Jackal's first couple of posts, which I read and had no problem with...it looked like scummy-ass Caller just spreading fear and doubt to me. I think part of my problem with prplhz is how he thinks the case is like SOOO strong. It's not, it's weak as fuck and he should know that. The fact that he disagrees just doesn't set well with me. I've downgraded prplhz to "Null/Leaning Scum" for now...I think we can do better than prpl for a lynch. But I said before and I stand by it - I would absolutely NOT mourn him if Jackal is town and throws a bullet at him tonight. No offense prplhz, I still think you're peachy-keen. | ||
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This game would have gone a whole different direction. Son, I am disappoint. | ||
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MUAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA AAHHHHHHHH | ||
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Guy wasn't even that active. Was it a blue snipe? | ||
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On March 28 2012 14:52 Ver wrote: Game name seemed very applicable T_T When you gonna show us scrubs how it's done guy? I can't even remember ever playing in a game with you. Have I? | ||
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On March 28 2012 14:59 EchelonTee wrote: incognito showed us how it's done in TL L, maybe it's Ver's turn in the next installment of TL Mafia? TL L - A Town Hope TL L2 - The Jubjubs Strike Back TL ??? - Return of the Vets My name is VisceraEyes, and I approve of this message. | ||
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Thx to Ver and Incog. I learned a lot from this game, in spite of it being a shattering defeat. :S | ||
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Then we defense it. | ||
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