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On March 01 2012 08:03 Probulous wrote: Heads up people, the deadline is at 2pm Aus (syd) time. That means the lynch vote is at 2pm Sat for me. My best friend from Uni is getting married that day, so I won't be here at the vote deadline. I was hoping we would start yesterday but alas it was not to be. My vote will therefore be made earlier in the day. I will be active as I usually am at other times. I am also trying to avoid my usual text walls. So far I have been failing but hopefully this game I get it right. I have a wedding on Saturday as well. So looks like we need to get our first lynch sorted out quicksmart. Scum, please do something dumb within the first 12 hours of game start. Thanks. Otherwise, I can always update from my phone. | ||
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Even after the Arkham city debacle, I still hate policy lynches. Ill stick to analysis for my method of finding scum. | ||
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Welcome back Misder, second wiggles game for both of us. If you're town again, do you plan on playing out the whole game this time? | ||
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On March 01 2012 12:40 Bluelightz wrote: Keep on posting people! I do agree with you Prob that we shouldnt use policies and...... but I think vigs we may have should fire on better targets then lurkers if possible, what do you think? Well, of course a vig is going to shoot an obvscum if one happens to wander into the thread, I think that doesn't need to be stated. The only person in this game that I know zero about would be Snarfs, everyone else ive read/played at least one game of/with. I don't think you are a smurf, since your account is over a year old, but whats your story? Are you new to TL mafia? or new to forum mafia in general? Is this your first game? | ||
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On March 01 2012 16:28 rgTheSchworz wrote: Your chances of surviving another night are now halved,sir. Why is this? Granted hes trolling, but I don't see why this statement would make anyone any more or less likely to kill him. | ||
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Do you plan on communicating from beyond the grave? | ||
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But doesn't that just go without saying? Isn't that what everyone does when a townie flips? consider that they may have been right | ||
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Killer Cup, what exactly are you voting for Probulous for? From what I gather from your post, its because he was discussing policy. If that's the case, why not vote for myself, or Misder, or bluelightz? we were all discussing policy. Why single out Probulous specifically? You then go on to say you're willing to talk about another policy. Please, be clear with your reasons. As it stands I find your vote contradictory and bandwagony. Plus, you messed up the voting format and Probulous name. | ||
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I find Palmar interesting, as I do in every one of our games. I think his exchange with you from yesterday was an exercise in stating the obvious, something I don't expect from him. As I said to him yesterday, everything he was stating was stuff that townies should already be doing and the fact that he needed to stress it across 4 posts shows that he is either just talking for the sake of putting words on a page, or he has no faith in this town. Right now, I am leaning towards he is not town. I find Pandains 'analysis' of Killer Cup interesting also. Pandain warns about making assumptions about your accusers here. Then he goes on to make the assumption that Killer Cup is so scummy that he cant be scum here. I made that assumption in Arkham City with jaybrundage, that he looked so damn scummy that he had to be bad town. Nope, wrong. He was just obvscum. I don't agree with Pandains logic, but that doesn't make him scum, so I have him as null for now. Misder, if you have all those reads on everyone, why not write a paragraph on each one and detail how you got to those reads. Writing everyone's name and then an alignment is pointless and we all love pointless lists around here. Your OMGUS vote on deconduo is weak. You're voting him because he has different reads to you? You need to start putting effort into your reads. | ||
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On March 02 2012 18:52 Palmar wrote: Paperscraps looks towny, so does rgTS. I'm not really sure about teacup, but there's nothing super scummy in his posting so far. I refuse to analyse jackal58, cause I never get it right. misder seems towny i think. Adam not so much, he could be scummer. I'm not quite sure about probulous, something is off about his play I think, but I can't exactly tell if it's because he's scum. Bluelightz is impossible to read, but assuming the obvious he's town. I actually think snarfs looks pretty towny from his sk asking post, it just seemed genuine enough not to be fabricated to make us think he's clueless town, in addition I don't think scum often does that. No clue about the rest really. Toast and Pandain and anyone else I might be forgetting, but if I forget you it's because your content has been worthless so far. So take it as an insult please. These reads are only a fraction better then the list Misder posted, useless and effortless. You label me as scum yet you never follow it up. Why aren't you pressing me to try and find out my alignment if you think I could be 'scummer'. I think its because you have zero interest in finding scum. Look at his town play: Hammer Mini Mafia He is aggressive, he presses his reads. He doesn't give a shit what the rest of the town is doing. Contrast that with what we've seen so far this game. ##Vote Palmar On March 03 2012 06:04 Probulous wrote: Right now my reads correlate best with Palmar. I don't think Paperscraps is scum. He always writes very short posts with not much content, he correctly identified me as town early and I agree that decon's case was terrible. Sure Misder had engaged in a fluffy discussion regarding LAL (with me) but if that is all the case was based on then bluelightz should have been a bigger target. He was asking everyone for their opinions and sharing none. I agree that his absence since then and his terrible reason for voting decon (as far as I can tell) makes look really scummy but when Paperscraps replied the case was very weak. Jackal is making himself hard to read. As above I disagree with paper but agree with Misder. He's lurking but that seems to be his usual day 1 play. Pandain seems towny to me. His case on toast helped clarify toast's alignment to me. Adam needs to post something of substance. His only game as scum (that I remember) he lurked all game long. Sandroba, you're not helping yourself. The quote from Jackal in L corresponds very well to your current play. This is why I want Jackal's opinion. He shot you then, would he shoot you now? Toast is right to call you out for lack of contribution. Your response enforces his case. ##vote Sandroba Probulous, why are you sheeping Palmar? His case on sandroba is weak. "You couldn't spot a townie??? oh, you're scum!". You are remembering my game as scum incorrectly, I stayed as active as everyone else and directed the town into stupid mislynches. I spent the whole game jumping on the easiest bandwagons that came along. I made it clear pre-game that I would be inactive for a majority of the first day. I don't find inactivity as a scum-tell, hence why I have not voted Misder. Also, in TL50, Jackal did not shoot sandroba, he shot L. sandroba was lynched by the town. | ||
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On March 03 2012 08:42 Palmar wrote: Cause I want to lynch sandroba you dumbass. Don't be thick. The case on sandroba isn't weak at all. It's based on the simple fact that his reads are off, he's disagreeing with me for the incorrect reasons and not putting any time into the game at all. I'll list it up: 1. Sandroba refused to try and point out a random townie in the thread because "he doesn't want to give away townreads". Now I know this is a common misconception, but sandroba is not dumb enough to fall for it like all the newbies. Giving away town reads is fine because if you force mafia to do it, they have to either call their scum mates town, or double back later in the game. 2. Sandroba's reasons for voting people in this game seem to not be the ones I'd expect him to use. he has basically attacked two people who in my opinion had at the time done very little that reveals much about their alignment in the thread. 3. Sandroba has put almost no effort into figuring out my alignment this game. While as town it would be a very obvious thing to do for him to put in a lot of effort into seeing if I'm scum, both because my scum play tends to be quite obvious and also because he knows that as a team we could probably smash the game. I conclude, he must be scum. I am not being thick, I am following my read. Your entire case boils down to 'meta' of Sandroba. I've underlined everything 'meta' in your case on him that you just expanded on. I find pure meta cases weak and so do you. | ||
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Hes posted very little, but the same can be said for several other players, myself included. Who is your next best scum read? | ||
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I can tell you that you're wrong, since I'm town, but I have nothing to hide. | ||
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On March 03 2012 13:46 Jackal58 wrote: You have got to be shitting me. 3 votes? Really? 3 fucking votes? And nobody has posted since the fucking flip? You have got to be fucking shitting me. Oh, give me a break. If you are are so unimpressed with the current state of the game, why don't you try contributing something instead of lurking and trolling. | ||
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On March 04 2012 07:49 Probulous wrote: Adam You were at a wedding yesterday so I expected you to be absent like myself (I tried to be around). But you posted at 1:30 before deadline when most votes had already been placed. So you had the information available to make a choice for a candidate who had the possibility of being lynched. You voted for Palmar when it was clear he was not a possible candidate. I can't find Paperscraps' vote so right now you effectively voted on your own. Nice way to avoid taking responsibility for a lynch. Explain. These four had votes for people who clearly had little to no chance of being lynched. Now doubt you are all scum but I am sure that at least one of you is. What easier way to avoid taking responsibility for your vote then by placing it on someone who will not be lynched. I've done that as scum successfully in the past. I didn't support either of the 'main' lynches yesterday and considering the votes ended up being split 3-3 in favour of your two main candidates, neither did most other people. I was not avoiding responsibility by not voting for Misder, go read my filter, I didn't think he was scum. Lazy, yes. scum, no. I also didn't vote for sandroba on similar reasons, I think he is being lazy or just plain doesn't give a shit, which is not indicative of his alignment to me. So I was presented with the 'choice' of voting for two people, neither of which I find overly scummy. So I decided to provoke Palmar, partly because I feel his play is different to what I expect from town Palmar, partly to gain a better read on him in case I am wrong and he is town. The result is I still don't know what his alignment is. I asked him to produce more content (in the form of a case on me), but he refused as he was hell-bent on only focusing on sandroba yesterday, so I don't know what to make of him. | ||
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Id like to hear something worthwhile out of sandroba or jackal today, skating by doing nothing is a lame effort from vets. | ||
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On March 04 2012 13:29 Pandain wrote: AKCT visited rhtheschworz last night. Well well, isn't that interesting. Since you've claimed blue already, can you tell me if you Tracked AKCT or if you Watched rgTheSchworz? I assume its the latter, but id like to know for sure. | ||
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On March 05 2012 04:57 Jackal58 wrote: Adam are you going to do anything other than defend Sandroba, fish for blues and call me out for my disbelief in Misder being lynched by 3 people? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=192320 Adam is scum. Don't forget attack Palmar, I've done plenty of that as well. How does any of that make me scum and only scum? You are assuming Sandroba's guilt from his lack of effort (something BOTH of you were doing) and then inferring my guilt from that. I never fished for blue roles. Pandain claimed a blue role, I wanted clarification as to which one he was claiming, so I could better assess the situation which we were faced with. And I am entirely justified in calling you out for doing NOTHING all of day 1 and then insulting the entire town when you are not happy with the result. None of those things make me scum. Your case is shit. + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2012 07:13 Probulous wrote: I leave the thread for a while and this happens! Nice ploy Pandain, I agree AKCT gets town for his response. This I find strange I was very surprised. Rg basically claimed Vanilla Townie or possibly Veteran. Here is something I wrote and was keeping for when his claims became useful. Claims to be able to half sandrobas chance of surviving night -> Vig/SK Repeat of above -> Vig/SK Claims not to be SK -> Vig Therefore is either a Vig or a Veteran trying to get shot in a really stupid way (again). The he says So just from reading his filter his claims don't make sense. Strange hit for me. I guess I was wrong about his attempts to get shot being stupid but that just says mafia aren't reading filters properly. This is just spam, Probulous. I was not surprised at all that he flipped townie, nor was I surprised that he was lying all game. You didn't even believe all of his claims, you said as much here: On March 03 2012 20:42 Probulous wrote: RG stop playing the idiot. No-one believes the 1001 things you have claimed. Going to bed now. Thoughts in the morning. Your post doesn't even make sense, you start by stating that he claimed Vanilla Townie or possibly Veteran, then somehow finish that he's possibly a Vig or Veteran. What was the point of even posting that wall of text? It contributes nothing. On March 05 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote: What use does that answer provide to town? The only possible thing I can think of is that he didn't believe Pandain and was using this as a way of getting him to possibly slip up. Pandain had announced his suspicion of AKCT so it makes sense for him to follow him. I don't see why watching RG would necessarily be more likely. As I previously stated it was obvious that RG claims were bogus from a simple read of his filter. Even if you disregard the above, why ask? I read guilty concience here. Mafia shot RG and wanted to find out if they had been caught. If Pandain claims he tracked AKCT, no harm done. If he claims he watched RG they can counterclaim because they know they were the one's who were shot RG. Thus Pandain was either lying or he knows they are scum. They know that he knows. Thus the only possible way out is to counterclaim as soon as possible with more information. It is a scummy scummy question. ##vote Adam4167 The answer to that question provides nothing to town. It provides information to me. I ask because I wanted to know what Pandain was claiming to get a better grasp on if he was fake-claiming. "As I previously stated it was obvious that RG claims were bogus from a simple read of his filter", No, you didn't. You finished with the conclusion that he was a Veteran or a Vig. It is not a scummy question. Why aren't you calling me scum? You're implying it, but you aren't saying it. | ||
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On March 05 2012 08:37 Paperscraps wrote: Ok so Sandroba claims vet or saved by medic. Why would Sandroba have been targeted as all last night? I don't think a medic would have been on Sandroba either. Thus that leaves the vet claim. Honestly I think Sandroba is SK that is claiming a fake hit. Theres an option 3 here. Sandroba is an SK that is claiming a real hit (from the mafia): On February 25 2012 12:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Serial Killer: You are a Serial Killer! Each night, starting night 1, you may send in a night hit. In addition, you have one extra night life. On March 05 2012 10:46 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: Nope, don't like Adam. You seemed to be setting yourself up for an "i told you so" moment when i flipped town/non-visiting, making you look townier at the end of it - knowledge that you would only have if you knew who really did make the kill, meaning you are either a Blue or Scum. I'm leaning towards the latter. ##Vote Adam4167 AKCT: I don't even understand how the hell you are getting that from: On March 04 2012 14:15 Adam4167 wrote: Well well, isn't that interesting. Since you've claimed blue already, can you tell me if you Tracked AKCT or if you Watched rgTheSchworz? I assume its the latter, but id like to know for sure. Please elaborate and make yourself more clear. On March 05 2012 12:35 Bluelightz wrote: If your going to vote me atleast spell it right -_-" I don't care If I get lynched, If Town wants to lynch me fine. Know that the mislynch is on you. Again no time wil post in like 2 hours maybe. Bluelightz, why are you giving up so easily after one vote? Compared to your play in Normal Mini Mafia I, where you had 4 votes piled on you the first day and you tried to defend yourself. Do you feel guilty again, like in Student Mafia? | ||
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Its far too late in the day to start pushing another case. Id like to see a resolution to this night-hit situation. ##Vote sandroba Jackal, for a game you claimed 'is worth playing', you sure are going about it strangely. Do you plan to just ignore me calling your case shit? is that because you know it was? | ||
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On March 06 2012 09:08 Jackal58 wrote: Thank you. Just got home from work. I don't know why anybody thinks I'm good at this. It pops up every game. Dunno what Sandroba is. I was hoping Palmar would slip but it's hard to get Palmar to slip, but any ways I think Palmar is SK. If he's scum he has done a good job changing his scum persona. If he's 3rd party he's changed that a bit as well but I certainly don't see him as town. I stand by my belief Adam is scum. I've been absent. He's been useless. Pandain scares the hell out of me. I've seen him pull this kind of fake claim as scum before. And get away with it. Everybody else no freaking clue. ##VOTE: Adam4167 What you're saying makes no sense. You don't know what sandroba is, yet you were inferring my guilt from me defending him earlier. You think Palmar could be 3rd party or scum. I spent a large portion of D1 attacking Palmar. Yet i'm scum. You calling someone useless is rich. I hope for your sake you aren't town, because if this is your town play, you have a very inflated reputation. | ||
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On March 06 2012 10:16 Jackal58 wrote: Jumping on a Sandroba wagon does not count. And seriously at that point you should be able to see that nobody had voted anywhere else. You're scum bro. You keep banging that drum. And I'm not your 'bro'. You come back with a coherent case that consists of more then baseless accusations, and then I'll defend myself. Otherwise, find something more productive to do, because right now you're just filling the thread with pointless noise. | ||
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Prob, I already stated why I'm on the sandroba lynch in that post. It's too late in the day for me to push the cases I want to push, so I'm bandwagon voting on sandroba to try and get a better grasp on what happened last night. I like other lynches better but convincing at least 4 people to move off of sandroba is something that would take more time then we had when I voted. It's a shit vote and I know it, but my vote going anywhere else is just as shit, considering the current vote tally. | ||
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Town Adam is also developing a habit of defending mafia. Really need to work on that. | ||
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On March 06 2012 15:01 Probulous wrote: Urrgh this thread is dead. I'm going to laugh if I die overnight cause this thread will turn into a ghost town. Come on guys post your thoughts, move this thread along. There is plenty to analyse but no-one is here. I'm heading home now and might log on later. I'm home now. What do you want to talk about? | ||
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On March 06 2012 12:34 Jackal58 wrote: As it should be. I knew GMarshall. You sir are no GMarshall. Whats with the GMarshall comment? Even though I have massive respect for him, I was never trying to be him?? | ||
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Even then, there's situations where it could be ambiguous. | ||
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I wanted to see your reaction and get a better grip on what was actually happening. | ||
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On March 06 2012 23:08 Palmar wrote: do you think I'm scum now? No. Its not out of the realm of possibility that you knew sandroba was going to be useless and bused him, but I think looking elsewhere right now is a better usage of my time. | ||
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On March 07 2012 06:58 Probulous wrote: Why you such a downer this game Adam? I don't think I have ever seen someone get shot for posting at night. All you are doing is refusing to contribute behind a weak excuse. The sandoba shot is the one thing we have right now that can help provide some useful information. Of course the conclusions have to be tentative but we can still work it out based on his posting. I think my logic is clear and fairly robust. Besides if there was one thing you could comment on that would surely not get you shot it would be the dead guy. You're avoiding posting, why? I said right at the beginning that I will only be contributing where I see it relevant, not just for the sake of it. I disagree that we can get anything useful out of sandroba or his actions. It boils down to complete speculation as to his motives and mindset. As I have no idea what those are, trying to speculate setup from mafia motives and strategies is a complete waste of time. I am not avoiding posting, I am avoiding irrelevant and speculative posts. | ||
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I've been acting like a dick to you because I thought you were scum the second you sheep voted onto sandroba with the reasoning of "my reads look a lot like Palmars, so ill vote like he does". You've sidetracked this game into setup discussion which boils down to an answer no townie can know on more than one occasion. You asked Pandain for his reads on who he thought was scum, he named Bluelightz, Jackal and myself. This is a glaring contradiction to his stance towards me yesterday. He was actively defending me and pushing the lynch in any other direction. Yet you don't even bat an eye-lid at his complete 180. Town Probulous is better then that, he would call out the glaring contradiction. ##Vote Probulous | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743081 Here, you state that people who are lurking shouldn't be lynched, rather we should find some other way to deal with them. Yet here you are now, your vote is on Bluelightz for lurking. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13743280 Lists aren't scummy. USELESS lists are. Here's one. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13753596 AKCT's logic for voting you is HORRIBLE, yet you unvote him and never come back to it? Come on. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13787923 This was completely irrelevant. It contributed nothing to the discussion at hand, proved nothing, concluded with nothing. You accuse me of looking as if i'm trying to contribute, when it is exactly what you have been doing all game. I do think Pandain is town. I think you're scum. Your defence of yourself is to deflect back onto my questionable actions this game. That is not a defence at all. I am never here because I have uni to attend, I am getting really sick of stating that. In fact, I'm going to be not here some more as I have uni work to finish. | ||
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The assumption that anyone voting for someone you have a town read on must be scum, is just flat out stupid. I don't hate paper for voting me, it was me or him when he did, so that's an obvious choice. I suggest everyone take a hard look at AKCT, who's posted even less then bluelightz after being 'confirmed town'. He also claimed 'vanilla townie', which is inconsistent with the role in the OP 'townie'. Palmar did the same thing, he flipped blue, but I don't think AKCT will. Snarfs, find me a mafia that actually admits he hasn't been contributing, and ill show you an idiot. Mafia deflect or misdirect. I do think Pandain is town hence why I didn't attack him. Why his read has shifted towards me, that is not something I can answer, you can ask him. Deconduo, your 'case' against me is terrible. Its filled with confirmation bias. Palmar was the obvious choice to die on N2 since he was clearly town and probably not just a plain townie. Jackal's read is wrong, he clearly wasn't putting much into this game, why would you expect his read to be even close to right? If we had a medic that wasn't on Palmar N2 after leading the sandroba lynch, then hes useless. I would go as far as to say you should lynch anyone that even claims medic for that. If there's a medic, its a Medic, because I really don't see a town medic being stupid enough to protect sandroba N1. | ||
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What kind of stupid scum strategy is it to attack the most townie looking person? Scum buddy the big townie while picking them off at night. The fact that you are so adamant at shutting me up is hilarious though. I obviously don't have "the ability to sway people with my flimsy cases", as no one even took my case on Palmar halfway seriously. | ||
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Of course I didn't answer your question, I clicked post before it was even on my screen, look at the time-stamp -_-. I do still think you're scum, if this is your town play, then I had a very different picture in my head of what town Probulous should look like. | ||
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I started writing that as the day post came down, the fact that you stated you wanted to lynch me was coincidental. My job is to find scum, yes, I had a read on you, so I voiced it. Wheres the problem? could my read be wrong? absolutely. Doesn't mean i'm just going to keep it to myself. | ||
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I spent the entire day 2 of Newbie Mafia 3 defending a mafia against the entire town, hence why I poked fun at myself for defending Sandroba, again as town. I figured you of all people might have got that one since you played in the same game. Trying to meta me and then taking one example of my good play while ignoring the rest is confirmation bias. I outed half of the towns blues in Arkham and then went on to hang someone I had just confirmed 12 hours earlier to lose the game, as town. I play badly, it happens. | ||
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Probably twice. Once assuming nothing, second time ill assuming my read is wrong and Probulous is town. Lets see where this goes. ##Unvote | ||
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Upon second reading assuming Prob is town, it is probably the best move to kill Bluelightz. Toast is exactly right, he could flip either way, hes a permanent null read for me, but via process of elimination, he looks good to die. I don't want to lynch Pandain, Paperscraps, Snarfs, TheToast or Probulous (still operating under the assumption that he is town) which leaves me with Bluelightz, deconduo and AKCT. ##Vote Bluelightz | ||
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On March 08 2012 18:14 Bluelightz wrote: Hmm, I think that there is that chance of Adam is town...... You're right and if you were scum, you'd be sailing me down the river right now. So I think you're town. ##Unvote I think my lynch is inevitable today, that's OK. Ill try to get some thoughts out before my flip. | ||
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On March 08 2012 21:34 deconduo wrote: Could you guys BE any more obvious. OK, I put to you a hypothetical. What direction do you plan on going tomorrow after I flip town? Obviously if I flip scum, you're going to want to go after bluelightz, but humor me for a minute and tell me what happens when I flip town. | ||
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Bluelightz I am almost certain that bluelightz is town. At the time of this post, the votes were 3 for me vs. 2 for bluelightz. Bluelightz had the easy option of just OMGUS voting me and pretty well sealing my fate, instead he chose to go against the grain, say I might actually be town and vote elsewhere. This is either some of the most well thought out (and risky!) mafia play I have ever seen, or he is town. Snarfs Snarfs is actively trying to contribute in this game. He's asking questions where they should be asked, following his reads and doing everything I expect of a new-but-good town player. Paperscraps Paperscraps looks alright to me. His recent switch to voting me feels like self-preservation, which is fine, I did the same earlier with bluelightz. I have the sneaking suspicion that he is the SK. Pandain Pandain's disappearing act of the last two days is a bit concerning, but my previous read on him was all town. He defended me against Probulous, who thought I was asking a 'scummy scummy question', because he picked up that I was implying I might be a watcher/tracker. Sadly, I am not the tracker, I was feigning a blue role in the attempt to get shot, but it was entirely reasonable to think I was the tracker in that situation. TheToast I too have taken a few hits from the Civs' 5 crack pipe, I know how easy it is to lose days on that shit. That said, I wish he had played a bigger part in this game. I get a townish feeling from reading his filter so I'm happy to say he's probably lurky-town. deconduo Tiny filter, filled with one to two lines per post. I think his biggest post is when he reformatted rgTheSchworz post for him, so not even his own work. I really don't know what to make of him right now, but id probably hang him just to be on the safe side. Could go either way. A Killer Cuppa Tea AKCT. Has a single pager filter on day 3. His voting reasons are beyond bizarre. On day 1 he votes Probulous due to some ridiculous reasons, then retracts it and blames it on alcohol, and instead votes for Misder with equally crap reasons, who flips town. On day 2, he votes for myself for not jumping on the lynch AKCT train to kill him, his reason being I "looked like I was trying to gain town credit". Finally on day 3, when most of the town is staring firmly at me, where he would well be justified in voting for me, he votes for bluelightz instead, implying that we are both scum, yet he wants to kill bluelightz first. This guys brain is broken. I have no clue what his alignment is but I really suggest hanging him or having a vig/SK deal with this, because he is skating by, throwing out shit votes, not contributing and not even trying. Probulous When I see someone making terrible arguments like: On March 07 2012 13:18 Probulous wrote: What is also interesting but somewhat prone to WIFOM is that he targeted Palmar who is now dead. Jackal targeted him and is also now dead. This is the kind of crap I expect to see from the mafia in a newbie game, not here. I had to double-check the posters name. Bad logic is not a scum sign, but someone who is known for using good logic and then starts using terrible logic IS a scum sign. Probulous is supposedly an up-and-coming good player around TL Mafia, and when I see him trotting out stuff like this, my alarm bells go off. WIFOM'ing away at the fact that two people I've had interactions with are now dead? seriously? awful. I cant believe you are trying to pin Jackals death on me after a vig has already claimed it. Its laughable! In response to my case, he then starts to deflect back onto me, to call my (already minimal) credibility into question, here and here. That is a mafia tactic. Townies are concerned with clearing their guilt, mafia want to re-direct onto their attacker. Finally, this post here. I have already touched on this but I feel I need to go over it again. This post reeks of fear. If my cases are so 'flimsy' then there should be no need to lynch me before my 'flimsy' cases sway anyone, as they'll gain no traction. Where do we go from here: I think the best course of action is to flip me. I know that might seem a bit strange for someone asking to die, but my reasoning is this: -With me around and my alignment in question, people are going to be wondering what I am, due to my ... interesting behaviour this game. I am a distraction to town that needs to be removed. -My reads will gain more weight after I'm dead. Once I flip, you can almost assuredly say that bluelightz is town. -Another reason to hang me is to prevent the mafia from hanging the SK, my death buys him one more night to kill one of these scummy assholes. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you could possibly imagine ##Vote Adam4167 | ||
Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
I explained why in the post where I voted myself. Right now the only other two on the chopping block are you and bluelights, neither of which I want to see dead. Going through another day with people focused on me is counter productive to this town winning. I am not being a martyr, I am doing what I see as the best move for towns success. | ||
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