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Pandain
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I was just seeing how he reacted :<. He was the second most suspicious person I had, so I just decided to pressure him a little. What he did was opposite of mafia. If he was mafia, he would have claimed to have a blue role, not a vanilla townie. Instead, he's been actively offering the right thing to do in his situation(if town): Lynch him, and then lynch me. If he's SK the situation is a little different, but still points to him as town. He's perfectly alright with being lynched( when he CAN'T as SK if he wants to live.) So basically now, in my opinion, AKCT is 100% town. + Show Spoiler + basically im not watcher/tracker unless im pulling epic mindfuck games | ||
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Pandain
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1. There is NO reason I would do this if mafia. Think of one. Please. Tell me. | ||
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There are a multidinous amount of reasons why he might want to ask: 1. If I was watcher, then I would know for certain whether only AKCT visted him. That would mean that indeed, he was scum. However, if I was tracker, then it meant that AKCT might've merely been vigi, medic, tracker, or watcher. 2. If he was watcher/tracker, then he would be able to infer whether I was fake claiming. After all, there was a reason why I left it ambiguous whether I "was" tracker or watcher. If I claimed one, the real one could've counterclaimed and I would've looked super scummy. At first reading his latest posts I was suspicious of Adam, and inclined to agree with you, but after looking at all his posts I feel he has been playing town like. He's probed people for knoweldge, questioned people when they did weird stuff, pushed people, and contributed overall. I don't feel theres enough evidence to justify a lynching of Adam. I am still going to push The_Toast. First, please reread all my prior evidence against him. Then note the fact that he ended up voting me TEN MINUTES before the lynch ended. There was NO WAY I was going to get lynched. Heck, he even accused me of trying to start a conspiracy to get Palmar lynched day2. Besides all the information I've presented to you previously, note the fact that he has not once posted since day1 has ended. He's not remarked on the two deaths, the hit of sandroba, my claim , and he's just preferred to lurk. He's had enough time to post, now its obvious that he merely doesn't want to. ##vote The_Toast | ||
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On March 05 2012 09:58 Probulous wrote: I noted Toast's crazy voting earlier. I am waiting for his explanation before I vote for him. The fact that he has been away for so long and that he said he was having ISP issues makes me think his absence is not just avoidance. There's no excuse. And he said he fixed the ISP issue. | ||
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On March 05 2012 10:46 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: Nope, don't like Adam. You seemed to be setting yourself up for an "i told you so" moment when i flipped town/non-visiting, making you look townier at the end of it - knowledge that you would only have if you knew who really did make the kill, meaning you are either a Blue or Scum. I'm leaning towards the latter. ##Vote Adam4167 I really don't like the gambit @Pandain. If i was a blue role, you would have prolly gone through with the lynch on me, or given scum an easy target. In fact, with the revocation of your claim, the likelihood of you being scum does go up: this gambit could just as easily be a scum one to draw out a potential Blue claim. Not enough to vote you just yet - especially as i had a town read on you beforehand - but i'm certainly gonna be keeping an eye on you. Your not playing like a blue would, and irregardless the scenario of a blue visiting rg is a very unlikely one. Why would a medic protect a vig/townie. Why would a watcher/tracker visit him when he clearly did nothing. In fact the mafia hit was very weird/bad, but thats besides the point. If you had claimed blue, by far the more likely explanation is that your actually scum/sk trying to cover up your kill. And adam never set himself up to gain town cred, I don't know where that's coming from, if you could explain. | ||
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Pandain
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Town needs to make a stand. We need to lynch a scummy person, or at least pressure them heavily. The reasons against Adam are tenous. They involve accusations of blue fishing(which he done none), trying to set up for a later town cred (which he did not), and compromise both misinformation and poor reasoning. If your going to vote Decondou, you might as well look at far more suspicious people such as Jackal, or Palmar, both vets who have done close to none(jackal in particular.) Palmar seems at least somewhat contributory, leading a semi charge on Sandroba, but the fact of the matter is he never really took charge like a vet should. We have 24 hours to go. We have a day to decide who we lynch. The time is now to lynch the Toast. The time is now to make a stand. Reference Guide 1. Jackal58-Uncertain- has done nothing to help town. But then again, I don't even know how people started to view him as a vet, as I will always remember him as the guy who never contributed(regardless of alignment), tunneled, and made this post. I would suggest a tracker track him. 2. Paperscraps: Town: Keeps tunneling but no one supports him( LOL.) Makes me believe he's just a misguided town, and mafia hasn't helped him at all. And mafia wouldn't keep pushing the same person again and again and again. SK wouldn't be that active. 3. Bluelightz- scum. Has contributed but hasn't contributed in content. But he keeps posting but alot of it is spam. he's made lists without good reasons, bandwagoned on AKCT when he said he was going to wait. In his list he said Jackal was most suspicious but in the end he voted RG because " he was most likely of being scum. I heavily urge people to view this post . Note how uncertain, and lack of actual accusation, he puts against RG, but then he votes him. Super suspicious. 4. Probulous - town: Contributing greatly, pushing people, making town active. Posts when no one else does and conversation is dying. 5. Snarfs - town. First game I believe, and he's done fine. would like to see a bit more but he contributes, makes good reasoning, and votes for good reasons. 8. Pandain- Town. I honestly feel like this main is the greatest person I've ever met, and he's contributed so much with great reasoning, and made an awesome ploy to figure out AKCT as town. 9. Palmar- Uncertain Claimed Vanillia townie when actutually the role is called townie, but that's less powerful evidence. Has been a dick but that's about it. Posted alot but never any long posts, but he's given reasons. I don't know. 10. Sandroba-Uncertain. He got hit, but I could easily see mafia/sk just aiming for a blue and end up hitting sk/mafia. Hasn't contributed greatly. 11. TheToast-scum, see prior posts 12. Adam4167- town, see prior posts 13. A Killer Cuppa Tea- town, see prior posts. 14. deconduo Mostly Town Has posted alot and given reasons, with long posts. Never has helped try to lead town/accusation, but has posted. Given he's a vet I would expect more but no reason to lynch him. | ||
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#unvote Toast #vote-blue lights | ||
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On March 06 2012 02:59 Palmar wrote: . No your just either a dick/stupid. I effectively confirmed (90%) AKCT as town, generated discussion when there wAs none, managed to see how people reacted to the claim, all In the course of 12 hours. Which is Alot more then anyone did/would've done. Your just blind to any idea which you didn't do.That's a dumb vote Toast. While Pandain's gambit was hilariously bad, I'd still bet on this being a town-pandain idea rather than scum Pandain. | ||
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On March 06 2012 07:52 deconduo wrote: I agree that he isn't scum, but he's almost certainly SK. We're better off lynching him now, rather than letting him get another shot off. That's the beauty behind this plan. You see, by having the tracker track him continously, we effectively negate any chance of him shooting anyone(because he would get caught.) In fact, it doesn't even matter if we have a tracker or not, the mere threat of being revealed(and he's alone so if he gets caught he loses), forces him to not shoot. The point I'm trying to make by saying we should lynch someone else, is that if we lynch sandroba we will have no more information, and no more reads on anyone(unless he flips town.) We all are 90-95% sure he's SK, the point is that he's now effectively out of the game and useless to us. Right now we should be focusing on lynching scum so we can have a chance to lynch scum and KEEP lynching scum, rather then wasting a day on someone who can't even hurt town(can't shoot.). If there's a flaw please tell me, but as of now I see no good reason to waste today on him when we could critically decide between blue lightz and toast. I would have agreed with you before Day 2. See the thing is, SK has 1kp per night. So where is the second night 2 hit? Sandro so far is the only one to have claimed vet and says he took the hit. Are we to assume he shot himself? I suppose there's a chance that both the SK and mafia hit RG, but that doesn't seem terribly likely. What? I don't get it. Theres a possibility that he's a vet and someone else is a SK. its not a good one but again, the point is that we not waste a lynch if we can force him to not shoot. | ||
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Pandain
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There is effectively no support for Sandroba. But again, this only indicates he's not scum, as they wouldn't just let him(and he wouldn't be so lethargic about getting lynched), die when theres a valid excuse. But I'm not even denying that Sandroba is probably scum. The key fact is that by lynching him we effectively waste a day to either confirm what we already assumed(he's SK), or the fact that he's a vet(in which case we just lynched a town woopdie doo). If we make him unable to shoot for fear of getting caught, then we don't even have to worry about him harming town. | ||
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1. By having tracker continuously track him, it wastes tracker time when he could be finding more scum(and tracker tracking new people is arguably more important then finding out more evidence). 2. Mafia KP is hidden, so the SK might not actually exist. | ||
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#vote Sandroba | ||
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But I guess it turns out that Sandroba is mafia, and not sk, so Toast was right there. Guess every once in a while conspiracies are right :p. No real point in addressing them, anyone who sees all my posts can see I'm clearly pro town. | ||
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I wouldn't change because of Toast lol. | ||
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