On March 01 2012 07:08 wherebugsgo wrote: or roleblock you, for that matter
If you're suggesting we're lynching VE instead I'm all up for that as well. Either you're mafia and not stupid enough to make a 3/3 townie list or you are against my better judgement indee townie and we should trust you => we should lynch into your list. Since prpl already flipped green and I know my own alignment that leaves us with VE
On March 01 2012 07:04 Toadesstern wrote: ok let me check this thing. Maybe I failed again like n2, but I'm pretty sure I doublechecked it this time
Why would medics protect RoL twice in a row? RoL are you bulletproof?
I never shot n2. I'm an avenger and therefore I'm not a normal vig.
I can only shoot after a townie was lynched and if the target voted for that person as well. n2 I did a last minute swtich and thought RoL voted for BH and realized only too late that he did not. That's why I asked him "RoL why are you still alive?" because I thought I shot. Then I realized he never voted for BH and I failed massivly.
This time however he voted for prpl according to our voting thread although there's no final votingcount which is kind of a bitch...
do you have more than one shot?
if you kill someone can you shoot again?
if you shoot someone and it fails can you shoot again?
On March 01 2012 07:08 wherebugsgo wrote: or roleblock you, for that matter
If you're suggesting we're lynching VE instead I'm all up for that as well. Either you're mafia and not stupid enough to make a 3/3 townie list or you are against my better judgement indee townie and we should trust you => we should lynch into your list. Since prpl already flipped green and I know my own alignment that leaves us with VE
YOU ARE A GENIUS VOTE: VISCERAEYES
I don't like sarcasm when it's used against me but I see you like the basic idea :3
On March 01 2012 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't follow Toades logic probably from lack of paying attention to what he was talking about Day 2, can someone explain how this incriminates VE??
I wanted to shoot VE n2 because I thought he was scummy
I thought about AC and how I shot 3 townies in a row and figured I should instead just trust syllo
It was really late so I last second switched to RoL without checking if he actually voted for BH because so many people voted for him and I was certain he did as well
Shooting RoL was not a valid move because he never voted BH and I still had my bullet because I never shot to begin with
I shot RoL a couple of minutes ago and he's still alive. Either I'm rb'ed (thx for painting me in a mafia-esque color DocH) or the guy got mafia protected. Since we got town KP mafia medic is pretty likely
VE is confirmed mafia for completly other reasons, still I shot RoL because I feared that a town-moron might shoot me after DocH's furious attacks on me, so I decided to shoot RoL first to get him out of the way and not give town the oppertunity to let him back in the game after successfully ruining it
nono, we start with either VE or RoL today, next day the one who's left over and next thing we do is decide wether it's WBG (most likely imo), BC (mediocre), or Kita (unlikely but more possible than I hoped yesterday).
On March 01 2012 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't follow Toades logic probably from lack of paying attention to what he was talking about Day 2, can someone explain how this incriminates VE??
I wanted to shoot VE n2 because I thought he was scummy
I thought about AC and how I shot 3 townies in a row and figured I should instead just trust syllo
It was really late so I last second switched to RoL without checking if he actually voted for BH because so many people voted for him and I was certain he did as well
Shooting RoL was not a valid move because he never voted BH and I still had my bullet because I never shot to begin with
I shot RoL a couple of minutes ago and he's still alive. Either I'm rb'ed (thx for painting me in a mafia-esque color DocH) or the guy got mafia protected. Since we got town KP mafia medic is pretty likely
VE is confirmed mafia for completly other reasons, still I shot RoL because I feared that a town-moron might shoot me after DocH's furious attacks on me, so I decided to shoot RoL first to get him out of the way and not give town the oppertunity to let him back in the game after successfully ruining it
So the question remains;
How does this incriminate VE.
it doesn't VE is mafia for other reasons. Read layas filter. Read my filter. Read what I posted the last hour. It's all little puzzle peaces comming together.
Also @VE I wasn't referring to you but to RoL. But thx for showing how you thought I was attacking you again.
On March 01 2012 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't follow Toades logic probably from lack of paying attention to what he was talking about Day 2, can someone explain how this incriminates VE??
I wanted to shoot VE n2 because I thought he was scummy
I thought about AC and how I shot 3 townies in a row and figured I should instead just trust syllo
It was really late so I last second switched to RoL without checking if he actually voted for BH because so many people voted for him and I was certain he did as well
Shooting RoL was not a valid move because he never voted BH and I still had my bullet because I never shot to begin with
I shot RoL a couple of minutes ago and he's still alive. Either I'm rb'ed (thx for painting me in a mafia-esque color DocH) or the guy got mafia protected. Since we got town KP mafia medic is pretty likely
VE is confirmed mafia for completly other reasons, still I shot RoL because I feared that a town-moron might shoot me after DocH's furious attacks on me, so I decided to shoot RoL first to get him out of the way and not give town the oppertunity to let him back in the game after successfully ruining it
So the question remains;
How does this incriminate VE.
it doesn't VE is mafia for other reasons. Read layas filter. Read my filter. Read what I posted the last hour. It's all little puzzle peaces comming together.
Also @VE I wasn't referring to you but to RoL. But thx for showing how you thought I was attacking you again.
On March 01 2012 07:55 Jitsu wrote: As DocH said, would you explain the reasoning how VE is mafia? Are you going to vote for him then?
I am going to vote for either VE or RoL. Both are mafia, WBG is most likely mafia and maybe someone else like docH or BC. I want to know what other people think about wether we should lynch VE or RoL first.
On March 01 2012 07:55 Jitsu wrote: As DocH said, would you explain the reasoning how VE is mafia? Are you going to vote for him then?
I am going to vote for either VE or RoL. Both are mafia, WBG is most likely mafia and maybe someone else like docH or BC. I want to know what other people think about wether we should lynch VE or RoL first.
VE shouldn't be lynched because he's town, but at least I disagree that we should lynch RoL. Shucks sir.
On March 01 2012 07:16 Toadesstern wrote: Either you're mafia and not stupid enough to make a 3/3 townie list or you are against my better judgement indee townie and we should trust you => we should lynch into your list. Since prpl already flipped green and I know my own alignment that leaves us with VE
Please, please, please. Never use this logic again.
On March 01 2012 08:23 Toadesstern wrote: just read for christs sake. There's like 5 pages about VE in layas and my filter.
Confirmed is a lot different than suspect, you need to demonstrate the logic of why he is confirmed RIGHT NOW if you want to seriously push his lynch
there is no 100% confirmed in this game. The risk that VE might flip town is about as low, or maybe a little higer than the risk that RoL might flip town. Read what I posted about him, read what Laya posted about him, think about what he was in Arkham and you'll figure out he's mafia. I can't just quote everything everyone said about him, that would bomb the thread. If you guys are up for lynching RoL instead I'm all up for that as well and would be willing to switch for that since I already shot him yesterday and he's still alive.
I'd say lynching RoL is the better move to get over with this (especially since wbg is already voting VE but that might be a move to get towncred, never theless voting RoL would be the, by very little, safer option) but we might as well wait if there's going to be someone claiming he RB'ed me. But since laya is also pretty fixated on VE I'm fine with that lynch as well right now and RoL the next day.
Maybe RoL is fucking Santa Claus and has the special ability to transform every nighthit into healing cookies he can give to children that behave nicely and that's why he was trying so hard to get killed. Maybe VE has completly changed his meta, maybe all those posts VE did the last 2,5 hours and some of those he did the last 3 days (ingame) are just looking awful because everyone in here's misinterpreting them (like yesterday my "scumslip"). Maybe WBG really thinks it's a good move for a townie to ignore nullreads and people that give mafiavibes from time to time and therefore really meant it when he told me to "just ignore VE". But I am willing to take that minimal risk and say that RoL, VE and WBG are all mafia working in a team together.
Anyways I'm off to bed now. Discuss this thing with Laya and Kita, you don't seem to like my cases anyways Maybe BC will show up as well telling us what he thinks, idk. See you tomorrow, I'm unvoting VE and voting RoL for now.
On March 01 2012 09:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Okay, please be careful with your language. It is somewhat possible RoL is the vet but his play doesn't make much sense if he is. I'll be voting RoL unless he can convince otherwise.
I'm straight up not the vet. It would be retardedly anti town for me to request to be shot if I was town and the vet. On a related note Toad you are seriously using the worst logic I have ever seen. "I think WBG is scum, WBG made a list of 3 people he thinks are scum. Since he is scum he probably has one scum in that list, since one is dead, the other is me, the third has to be scum! So lets kill the third." This all hinges on WBG being scum........ so kill wherebugsgo......? Seriously, dumbest thing I have read. I mean I used similar logic to kill Kita in Responsibility mafia iirc where L commented on both BumAtLarge and Kita in the same post and when I knew rest of the scum team, I was able to determine what L was doing with that post and pin Kita as the last red.
But why would you kill someone random in a 3 person list to confirm that the person who made the list is scum? Basically with your logic, if we kill the third and he's scum then WBG is scum, and if we kill the third and he's town WBG is town. I don't see how you don't see the incongruency in the way you are approaching this. It wreaks of purposeful stupidity considering I never saw any other post by you with such blatantly inconsistent logic.
ok still here because I can't sleep.
It was supposed to be funny while somewhat true. It's not depending on wbg to be mafia because if he's not mafia he's town and in that scenario we don't need to be afraid of wbg because he wants to help town anyways. That's not the reason everytone thinks you're mafia obviously and it leaves out the possibility of wbg being 3rd party but who cares. If you flip town I'll eat my hat, just as I already said with VE 2 (?) days ago.
On March 01 2012 09:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Okay, please be careful with your language. It is somewhat possible RoL is the vet but his play doesn't make much sense if he is. I'll be voting RoL unless he can convince otherwise.
I'm straight up not the vet. It would be retardedly anti town for me to request to be shot if I was town and the vet. On a related note Toad you are seriously using the worst logic I have ever seen. "I think WBG is scum, WBG made a list of 3 people he thinks are scum. Since he is scum he probably has one scum in that list, since one is dead, the other is me, the third has to be scum! So lets kill the third." This all hinges on WBG being scum........ so kill wherebugsgo......? Seriously, dumbest thing I have read. I mean I used similar logic to kill Kita in Responsibility mafia iirc where L commented on both BumAtLarge and Kita in the same post and when I knew rest of the scum team, I was able to determine what L was doing with that post and pin Kita as the last red.
But why would you kill someone random in a 3 person list to confirm that the person who made the list is scum? Basically with your logic, if we kill the third and he's scum then WBG is scum, and if we kill the third and he's town WBG is town. I don't see how you don't see the incongruency in the way you are approaching this. It wreaks of purposeful stupidity considering I never saw any other post by you with such blatantly inconsistent logic.
not to begin with the fact that you basicly claimed mafia. Requesting to be shot as town-vet is anto town and retarded but ragequitting just to vote 2 mins before deadline without posting shit and requesting to be shot as "townie" is not playing anti-town?
On March 01 2012 10:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No way a medic protects RoL
Toades, how do you know your shot worked and you weren't RBd?
I don't and I can't. Again, I'm willing to take the risk because what are the odds for that to happen, especially as long as noone claims he rb'ed me yesterday. If mafia rb'ed me I don't care lol
just to get this clear. That's like asking a DT "hey how do you know you did not run into a miller or a framed person?" You just don't know, maybe we're really that unlucky but it's not like that's the only reason we want him dead. That shot I did that did not end up killing him is like the 100th nail in his coffin and is not a case, a prove or anything like that but it sure looks strange.
On March 01 2012 10:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm just asking if there is any way for you to confirm your shot went off, that's all.
well the requirements for a successful shot are:
A townie got lynched - check (prpl)
My target voted for the lynched townie - check
RoL is not in palmars votelist because he voted later but for all I can see his vote should have been legit. No spellingmistakes, no wrong vote patterns or something like that. Furthermore if that were to be the case RoL would be dead by now because Palmar would have to modkill him for not voting. So from my point of view I can confirm that the shot left the gun :p
I can not confirm that I was not roleblocked, sheriffed or if he has some weird powers that can protect him from a hit.