EPTSo...yeah, let's not do this.
Proposal to Revamp the Banlist - Page 4
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
So...yeah, let's not do this. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 16 2012 05:11 Hesmyrr wrote: Don't like how it is automatic though. If I wanted to know which thread I posted in, I could just click 'Post' and be done with it. its an egosearch and very useful imo | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I'm for it if the idea is to create a thread for this purpose. "Disputable Banlist/Punnishment Discussion" or something along those lines and run by the council. These special cases would be appealed here and discussed publicly here. It would provide a simple way for members wanting to weigh in. There will be people not chosen who will have sensible opinions and they should in my opinion always be encouraged to express them. In the end the council will have the undisputed final word. As for the election process I don't like the idea of sitting in periods. Being on the council is a responsibilty, some of the people here seems to mistake it for power and status. It's just extra work. As such I think it would keep a higher quality without those sort of limitations. They should sit as long as they are the best for the job. I have trust that if a councilmember feels that he is not longer optimal for the job due to various reasons, for example not having enough time or if someone else could do a better job he would voluntarily step down. If a councilmember doesn't and the forum feels he should a confidence vote could resolve it. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
How are the 5 choosen and what prerequisites must they fullfil? How should that thread be structured, who can post in it, who would maintain the OP? Explain how you bring an appeal before the council. Can a council overturn a previous ruling? what is the procedure for a council member stepping down? How do we start the process of a no confodence vote? Keep in mind we are people that like to play a game that is centered on abusing small print while leading/manipulating others to do our will. These things have to be clear before anything can go into effect. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
 . The Ban List as currently constructed is really good imo. It's so damn hard to even GET on the ban list that ending up on it multiple times probably means you deserve it. Just about every game from what I remember had 24 hour or even 48 hour phases and only required you to post once and vote. Keep it as is. It's optional and lets everyone know who the unreliable players are at a glance. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On February 16 2012 05:29 vaderseven wrote: @risknuke How are the 5 choosen and what prerequisites must they fullfil? How should that thread be structured, who can post in it, who would maintain the OP? Explain how you bring an appeal before the council. Can a council overturn a previous ruling? what is the procedure for a council member stepping down? How do we start the process of a no confodence vote? Keep in mind we are people that like to play a game that is centered on abusing small print while leading/manipulating others to do our will. These things have to be clear before anything can go into effect. I'll try to answer your questions to the best of what I can think of but I am not in charge of this idea and I am only sharing my thoughts on it. + Show Spoiler + How are the 5 choosen and what prerequisites must they fullfil? Reread the original OP.+ Show Spoiler + Currently the thought is that the council will have five members. Qatol and GMarshal have both agreed to be members, and I don't think anyone would have a problem with either of these two being on. The remaining three members will be elected from the community by vote. Anyone who has hosted a game is able to run. The banlist moderator no longer has a decision making role unless he chooses to run for a position on the council, otherwise his job is merely to record the decisions of the council (and of course dealing with all the bans the council is not needed for). How should that thread be structured? The OP should include the information about what the thread is for and maybe provide helping guidelines for how you should structure your appeal. You then post your appeal in the thread. How do you bring an appeal before the council? Post your appeal in the thread. Who would maintain the OP? The current council would maintain the OP. Who can post in the thread? Everyone. However continuous inappropriate posting here should not be tolerated. Can a council overturn a previous ruling? Yes, I think it should be within their rights. What is the procedure for a council member stepping down? The member in question announces it. This is voluntary work. There will then be an election process for the open position. How do we start the process of a no confidence vote? I'm not sure what the best way to do this would be. Possible posting it in the thread. Keep in mind we are people that like to play a game that is centered on abusing small print while leading/manipulating others to do our will. This last part is just silly. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 16 2012 06:09 risk.nuke wrote: I'll try to answer your questions to the best of what I can think of but I am not in charge of this idea and I am only sharing my thoughts on it. + Show Spoiler + How are the 5 choosen and what prerequisites must they fullfil? Reread the original OP.+ Show Spoiler + Currently the thought is that the council will have five members. Qatol and GMarshal have both agreed to be members, and I don't think anyone would have a problem with either of these two being on. The remaining three members will be elected from the community by vote. Anyone who has hosted a game is able to run. The banlist moderator no longer has a decision making role unless he chooses to run for a position on the council, otherwise his job is merely to record the decisions of the council (and of course dealing with all the bans the council is not needed for). How should that thread be structured? The OP should include the information about what the thread is for and maybe provide helping guidelines for how you should structure your appeal. You then post your appeal in the thread. How do you bring an appeal before the council? Post your appeal in the thread. Who would maintain the OP? The current council would maintain the OP. Who can post in the thread? Everyone. However continuous inappropriate posting here should not be tolerated. Can a council overturn a previous ruling? Yes, I think it should be within their rights. What is the procedure for a council member stepping down? The member in question announces it. This is voluntary work. There will then be an election process for the open position. How do we start the process of a no confidence vote? I'm not sure what the best way to do this would be. Possible posting it in the thread. This last part is just silly. On February 16 2012 05:20 redFF wrote: NONONONONO | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On February 16 2012 06:59 Blazinghand wrote: We should convene a constitutional convention of regulars to see if we can achieve a quorum for to implement a new set of rules, then draft and ratify them, then submit to the general TL Mafia electorate to see if this sort of thing is reasonable (since even non-veterans should have something of a say imo) We shall call those men, those special individuals, the Founding Forumers. We will succeed from TL, and the blasted Redhammer won't be able to suppress us. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 16 2012 07:00 Jitsu wrote: We shall call those men, those special individuals, the Founding Forumers. We will succeed from TL, and the blasted Redhammer won't be able to suppress us. Wat I might be a little over the top but I do think that there should be two phases to revamping the banlist. The first should be seeing if the majority of vets are for it-- then, these vet should make some amendments, then we can see what the general TL Mafia public thinks. I think this is totes reasonable. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
EDIT: I think everyone should get 1 vote. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
to be clear, I also like the current system actually having read the debates. I would like some sort of work-release thing for people who have played a lot since their last ban or whatever though | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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