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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 02:32 GMT
#380
@Bluelightz

You're currently on the chopping block and you don't seem to care very much. I doubt that defense will convince anybody here of anything.

Do I really have to ask who you think should be lynched if not you?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 03:15 GMT
#382
@[UoN]Sentinel

I'm considering if I should push your lynch just for all the stupid shit you've said, from "I will now treat you as confirmed town because you helped in my defense" to "the confirmed townie thinks I'm townie so I'm clearly townie".

One premise is a misconception, the other is plain wrong, and the conclusions cannot even be arrived at from the premises.

I don't recall you saying anything remotely this stupid in Hammer Mini Mafia, why are you doing it this game?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 03:22 GMT
#384
I think town is trying its hardest to throw this away, it's very rare that you have a scum dead by day2 and you guys are just derping it away with massive inactivity. I'm not amused at all. Even if I think somebody is scum, I cannot reliably push them before I know everybody else is town.

Everybody is responsible for making their own innocence apparent to everybody else. This is primarily done through activity and transparency. You guys are not doing this in a sufficient degree and it's making me pretty upset.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 04:17 GMT
#388
Okay, there are other people I'm more worried about than Bluelightz.

If you don't think there's enough content in the thread to analyse then generate something.

List of people who have done just about nothing so far day2:
TheToast
BaronFel
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 14:36 GMT
#406
Why is no one listening to me when I say that Bluelightz is not the scummiest around? Am I not confirmed town? Did I not just prove that I'm in touch with this game by shooting a scum day1? Instead you're all still just tunneling him and everybody tunneling one guy isn't a good town environment.

Imagine we decide to lynch Bluelightz and he flips town. Then what?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 15:50 GMT
#415
You should stop being bitchy TheToast. I'm not acting like I'm the best player in the world, I'm acting like I'm confirmed town who shot scum day1. Your bitching does nothing town favored, it's good for town to have someone who is confirmed town and in touch with the game because it puts a ton of pressure on scum every time they have to write a post.

Why I said that Bluelightz isn't the scummiest around? So that you guys will not just go "Meh, Lets just lynch Bluelightz". There are two scum left and this is a terrible town environment for doing scum hunting. Also, it is true, I don't think Bluelightz is the scummiest around.

I didn't have as much time day1 as I did night1 because I was still alive in Hammer Mini Mafia, or I would have had more time to read the game and push sinani206 for killing my command center. The time I had available was drained by arguing in favor of the best day1 lynch there was. During night1 I realized that I had to shoot to confirm my innocence or day2 (and likely day3) would be a huge mess and scum probably would end up winning. And then I shot sinani206 because he killed my command center. I also faintly remember one of his carriers injuring some of my marines.

The biggest reason for posting in any mafia thread for anyone at any point in any game is to make their own innocence readily apparent to everybody else. I don't have to do that because I'm confirmed town so I don't post as much as I did before, or in the same way. Since I'm obviously in touch with this game, scum is going to feel a lot more pressured if I say "Bluelightz aside, I have a good idea who is scum, you guys should try to find him too, then you can confirm your innocence to everybody else too" than if I say "Yea, lets just lynch Bluelightz", especially if Bluelightz is actually town.

Because I'm confirmed town I have the right to be a lot less transparent because the reason for transparency in the first place is to convince everybody else of your innocence and I don't have to do that because I'm confirmed town. I'll still try to promote a good town environment though by trying to get you guys to do something other than just tunneling the same guy and posting fluff. If this comes off as "he thinks he's the best player in the world" to you, then cool. That's kinda what I was trying to come off as to scum. Whether or not I truly believe in it is irrelevant to this game.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 16:01 GMT
#416
Okay I've become pretty sure that Bluelightz is town and I'll oppose that lynch. We should lynch Sinensis instead because I think he's scum.

##Vote: Sinensis
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 16:30 GMT
#422
Well Bluelightz analysis is like "he's fluffing" but he's always fluffing and I don't see anything different from how he's acted in this game compared to Purgatory. I don't see why a scum who is one down day2 would just resign like he's doing. He could push ANYBODY and maybe have a chance to get them lynched, he doesn't even have to make a real case just some of the usual fluff and then he would have a chance to get somebody else lynched but he's doing absolutely nothing. Also, nobody is defending him at all which is always a little unsettling. He isn't indefensible at all.

Sinensis, well first thing I noticed was this post:
On February 05 2012 13:24 Sinensis wrote:
##Vote: prplhz

BAAWW I DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME EXPLAINING MY VOTE. Cry me a fucking river scum. I've suspected this joker since his first post.

Look at how pissed off he is. He is really angry here. I bet when the rest of you saw the day post you expected to see a green, maybe a blue guy who had been offed by scum. But I think it was to everybody's surprise when there was also a red guy there. I would expect every townie to act a little surprised and also be happy about it but Sinensis is so pissed off here right after the day post. I think emotion is hard to fake for scum, it is easy to constantly remind yourself "I am town, I am town, I am town" but to also FEEL like townies feel must be impossible. I think he was pissed because one of his buddies was killed. I also think he's a lot better than how he plays, he's displayed some ability at logic but then he refused to realize that I was confirmed town even when it was very obvious. He tried to explain it away after mderg explained it to him, but I don't think that's good enough.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#426
The no defense argument isn't WIFOM at all considering the situation. If he is scum he can just say one name. Then if this person is lynched and he's town, then cool, Bluelightz survived for another day while somebody else didn't. There are 7 townies and 1 scum, he can easily avoid mentioning his buddy and even if he does that will buy him town credit. This is a "nothing-to-lose" situation for scum, but town can still lose something by pointing other people in the direction of other townies. Not that I think that Bluelightz is playing stellar town play, I just don't think he's scum.

I think his play looks a lot like Purgatory, and he's been posting lists in both games. That's not very important though because it's quite easy to think "I need to post lists because that's what I do as town". Very easy to fake, it's more his overall behavior.

I don't like your "even if he is town, he is useless and we lose a useless townie", but if you insist on using it then it can probably be applied to Sinensis too. What he said was very easy to fake. You'll also notice that he actually played a game before in which he was scum so he should definitely know stuff like that. Also he could read the OP and know stuff like that. His behavior in this game is easy to just classify as "newbie" but that doesn't mean he's not scum and when I read his filter it comes off to me more as "terrorist" anyway.

"Too scummy to be scum"? Look at sinani206's filter. People thought sinani206 wasn't contributing because sinani206 was town and he was "waiting for day2" or something crazy like that. Isn't that the most ludicrous argument ever? You lynch scummy people, you don't just WIFOM yourself into thinking "Well, scummy people needs to appear townie, and townie people aren't afraid to appear scummy so lets lynch people who appear townie and leave people who appear scummy.". That's plain crazy.

You guys need to start voting for Sinensis now.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 19:48 GMT
#430
Whatever. Bluelightz even chose to go for Sinensis who most people had written off as town (for reasons I don't understand) instead he could more realistically have gone for BaronFel or Nisani201 who have done little of value this game but he went for Sinensis, and then even backed off when he concluded that Sinensis was probably town. Scum in that situation don't do that, they just pick the easiest lynch besides themselves and start going for him because they have nothing to lose.

Sinensis defense right now is that he said in the beginning of the game that scum can't talk to each other. I'm giving you unwifomable evidence: townies don't get all pissed off when scum unexpectedly dies. Sinensis got pissed off. Sinensis has done nothing this game but pus scum agenda and push his newbie act to the limit.

I'm pretty sure Bluelightz isn't scum and I'm pretty sure that Sinensis is scum. If you think I'm less likely to be right because I think I'm right then I haven't a clue.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 21:34 GMT
#441
You the last scum [UoN]Sentinel?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#442
Bleh.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 07 2012 12:11 GMT
#475
If you are just roleplaying, then what is the townie motivation for choosing to be an asshole?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 07 2012 13:43 GMT
#477
Nisani201 is scum because he didn't give a shit about this game at any point while we were lynching townies. He has played more with sinani206 than anyone and he should have seen how obvious scum he was, but he elected not to.

I'm going to push him tomorrow.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 07 2012 19:08 GMT
#487
If you trusted me then why didn't you vote with me?

Did any of the rest of you back down because they trust in confirmed townies and because they think I'm a good scumhunter? (I DID kill a scum night1, that's not too bad you know)

Kinda looks like you're making this shit up. Anyway, I'm decided. I'm pushing you tomorrow.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2012 00:13 GMT
#497
On February 08 2012 07:15 TheToast wrote:
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On February 08 2012 04:08 prplhz wrote:
If you trusted me then why didn't you vote with me?

Did any of the rest of you back down because they trust in confirmed townies and because they think I'm a good scumhunter? (I DID kill a scum night1, that's not too bad you know)

Kinda looks like you're making this shit up. Anyway, I'm decided. I'm pushing you tomorrow.


What? Don't you think if Nisani were scum that he would have been voting on the town lynching bandwagon with you both days? Don't you think Nisani would have wanted to kill Time and Sinesis?

Idk what to make of this, unless this is just a CYA thing because you are afraid of getting shot tonight.

With this kind of logic we can also exclude sinani206 from being scum. That's how bad it is.

I doubt Nisani201 thinks I'm a better scum hunter than he is for real, I've played like 3 games with him and I sucked in all of them. Like, get-lynched-day2-as-townie-with-having-a-single-correct-scum-read-sucked in the last one I remember. Anyway, he's pushed his own lynches in games with scum hunters who are way better than I am, he's pretty confident in his own reads, as townies often are. You're an over-the-top example of that in a "I'm townie, thus I'm right, thus every argument I use must be right" kind of way so you should be able to see the validity of my argument.

I have no idea what "CYA thing" means but it's probably stupid and unimportant. I'm kinda hoping I get shot tonight but scum probably aren't that merciful.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2012 04:04 GMT
#504
Cool enough.

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2012 04:16 GMT
#507
Who do we lynch today EchelonTee? I'm totally clueless.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#517
Can people please vote for the person they currently think should be lynched. If town just sits around instead of committing then we can't force scum to commit either.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2012 22:19 GMT
#518
Fun-fact: Student Mafia had 27 pages at the end of day1. This game has 27 pages at the end of day3.
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