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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:35 Kurumi wrote: hiro protagonist kitaman27 qualis Any of those is quite fine + maybe Your targets My name is quails, like the bird. Don't shoot me, I'm near-lurking out of confusion and wrong-timezone-ness not scum. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:47 -_-Quails wrote: My name is quails, like the bird. Don't shoot me, I'm near-lurking out of confusion and wrong-timezone-ness not scum. You'll probably need to go some day anyway, because of lurking. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:49 Kurumi wrote: You'll probably need to go some day anyway, because of lurking. I agree, I hadn't realised quite how quickly this game would reach 60 pages. Most of my current suspicions are based on little more than a gut feeling that I've seen something scummy at some point from them, where I usually aim to have a post-by-post saved on my computer with a summary of current cases every day or so, so I can bring up relevant quotes whenever needed (I used to play in smaller games on a forum where 30 pages over a 48 hour day is the norm). In case I do get shot, I'll spend the night going through all the least active players and see if I can see anything useful and post that before the next Day4 begins. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
People who looked most suspicious from day 1 vote: At this moment in time evantrees is leading the vote. Tyrran stands a similar chance of flipping scum to evantrees. There are the candidates that are likeliest to flip scum, (but they could be town). It has been (sort of) agreed that rg's night action should shed some light on his own and on chaoser's alignment. BM has claimed medic and i would be willing to say that he is far likelier town than other candidates. Other People that it has been suggested we lynch: Kitaman27: stands an excelllent chance of flipping scum. I was waiting for him to come back and post but he doesn't seem to care. He does not wish to respond to my case in full as he promised he would do last night should he survive. My only resevation about killing Kitaman is that if Kurumi is, in fact Harley Quinn, then the case against Kitaman27 is weaker. On February 12 2012 13:00 kitaman27 wrote: Layabout, I'll respond to some of your posts if I survive the night. liar. Jaybrundage: Is perhaps the epitome of "posts to look like he is contributing without actually contributing". He has been lurking heavily all game and he displays no pro-town motives. Forumite: Has yet to put effort into helping town find lynch targets. All his posts are about peripheral issues and he has not made himself useful whatsoever. He has undermined town objectives all game long. Tunkeg: Likely town. But + Show Spoiler [Tunkeg do not open this spoiler] + I think he has an "unorthodox approach" to playing as town hiro protagonist: You could quite easily argue his alignment either way. He shows up every now and then. He calls most of Ico/Razerflash: I felt that ico looked green. I think razer looks a little red. My concern is that those who are placing suspicion on him are not doing it wholeheartedly. I felt that Kitaman27's early case was laughable. When i saw this quote: On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote: Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt. in kitaman's "in case i die post" i was suspicious. But when looked at in context (clicky) He says that he think's cyber cheese is a better candidate and votes for him. He may have been hedging which is scummy but i think that the quote by itself is misleading and makes ico appear scummier than he did. Who was misleading us? Kitaman, (+chaoser who has sheeped without sharing his reasons) JayJay: I may be somewhat biased when commenting on Jayjay because he has made various comments in which he has taken liberties with logic. I do not like JayJay's posts. He assumes things he shouldn't and if i had a gun i would have shot him night 1. He often talks about subjects that do not further town's goals. But he has made some posts that indicate he cares about town winning the game. And tha is more than can be said for far too many of you. So we shouldn't lynch him today/ The Radfield/ Palmar debacle: We have next to no reason to not beleive radfield at this point. We have every reason to not trust Palmar. If Radfield is telling the truth. Palmar is confirmed "not-town" (or possibly the "worst townie ever" + Show Spoiler + Could town really play worse than claiming 3/4 power roles and lying all the time?+ Show Spoiler + the answer is probably yes but Palmar is still playing really badly if he is town What if Rafield isn't calendar man? Radfield's actions do make some sense if he is scum, so if Palmar were to flip DT then Radfield would make an excellent lynch. What then if Radfield is scum ? Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie. OR Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information. If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town" OR radfield was bussing another teammate for town cred, which is fine. What if Rafield is 3rd Party? Palmar will flip 3rd party and we will have lynched a player that intended to kill 1 or two town blues and that was heavily trashing up the thread. We will not have killed a townie. OR Palmar will flip as a VT that you should never play in a game with again, or a dt that you should never play in a game with again. If he flips one of the roles he has claimed then we could possibly use that information. If Palmar flips town (he will not) then we are in a better position to evaluate Radfield's alignment. But if Palmar was calendar man then will will know that radfield is "not town" Palmar is almost certainly "not town" and killing him will have additional benefits - being able to actually focus on the lynch. OR Radfield has caught us another scum. Hi-fives all-around! Lynching Palmar could have a range of outcomes from, lynching a town DT and then lynching batman the next day( a monumentally improbable outcome). To lynching scum (a fairly likely outcome). Today and being in a great position tomorrow. Whatever happens lynching Palmar should greatly increase our ability to scumhunt and produce useful discussion. Palmar is almost certainly "not town". He has been having fun at YOUR expense. KILL PALMAR WITH FIRE! | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die. I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:07 layabout wrote: Qualis has a good shot of being scum too. I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die. I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option. I'd like You to remind You that Troll Town is still Town. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
My biggest point for a palmar lynch was that we save toad. Toad pointed out that batman can't kill him because of 15 to 5. Reconsidering, what are his other options. Shoot his scum list and hoping he doesn't miss (even if he DT'ed and knew that rad is taya, he can't shoot the al ghul chick)? And he has to shoot you at some point anyways. I don't know if we can trust that and toad's multivig ability is pretty damn good. We could medic the shit out of toad and had a a) two(one if Rad is red) free DT b) an additional KP so maybe lynching batman is indeed a good idea. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:09 Toadesstern wrote: There is literally no reason to lynch palmar if he's the only one being RB'ed n2 and noone else claimed being rb'ed. So? He is batman. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:07 layabout wrote: Qualis has a good shot of being scum too. I know there are people that are more likely to be scum than Palmar. But i want him to die. If he is 3rd party i want him to lose. If he is town i think he deseves to die. If he is scum then he needs to die. I think we should have killed him day2 as a matter of principle, but with the DT check on sheth that wasn't really an option. I don´t like Palmar trolling either, but it´s either live with it, or loose. We can´t afford a mislynch, but neither can we afford wasting a lynch on third party right now. They may not have Towns best interest in mind, but it´s leaving them be or loose. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:07 layabout wrote: Qualis. Quails. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:13 Toadesstern wrote: and I said a lot of times that I think palmar is 3rd party. I as well did not realize that Talia is immune vs batman which was like the last puzzle piece that finally made everything clear. There's a shitload of reasons to believe Palmar is batman and it makes sense with his "WTF why are you still alive Rad" post from d2 if he really is Batman. You could argue that maybe Palmar lied about that as well and never shot Radfield but rad claimed to be shot as well, for whatever reason. I think everyone, even immune is noticed of a hit. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:13 Toadesstern wrote: and I said a lot of times that I think palmar is 3rd party. I as well did not realize that Talia is immune vs batman which was like the last puzzle piece that finally made everything clear. There's a shitload of reasons to believe Palmar is batman and it makes sense with his "WTF why are you still alive Rad" post from d2 if he really is Batman. You could argue that maybe Palmar lied about that as well and never shot Radfield but rad claimed to be shot as well, for whatever reason. the radfield thing is totally independent from the question if a batman lynch is good (e.g. to save you, I am pretty sure you die, if we spare him). The thing that puzzles me is the name claim. RG you mind telling us if you are calender man? | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote: Schworz, are You a medic or vigilante? what? didn't you confirm his DT claim? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Your name is not Schworz. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I'd say we lynch radfield (talia) today. Maybe kurumi will shoot into townies because he has to win as well. That's 4 KP, maybe 5 if mafia's vig is a multishot vig as well or he did not shoot until now. If palmar kills me tomorrow he risks losing this game before finding hugo. There is no reason to kill me first unless he has to. Medics can't safe me and if palmar wants to kill me he does that. If we lynch palmar instead we give mafia an additional 3 free KP because we lynched someone who's not mafia to safe 1 (!) guy (that's me). | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I'd like everyone in this game...EVERYONE...to go back and read Arkham Asylum. Not only is it a prime example of a crazy setup much like this one, it's also a really good meta example of Palmar as third party. Please note the following similarities.
Do I think Palmar is third party this game? No. I think he's scum. But the similarities I just pointed out are things I believe ScumPalmar would do - he's not known for his stellar scum play after all. Palmar is a good town player - it's taken me several games since I've been back to realize this...he's good. But his play this game has NOT indicated any kind of skill. He's generally fearless as town, because he believes in his own ability to find scum. But his play this game has been reserved, and he's trusting KURUMI to find scum for him? I don't think so. Palmar is the obvious lynch today guys, for sure. Anyone who's voting for Radfield isn't making any sense...he's claimed DT and was integral to landing a scum lynch. It's true that he checked someone who died, which doesn't look terribly good...but he checked WBG, someone I TOTALLY would have checked if I were a DT. Anyone voting Radfield should actually be voting for Palmar because Palmar is scum. | ||
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