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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote: He's not Batman. He's pretty much CLAIMED Batman which is against the rules and playing against the rules isn't something Palmar does. He's scum. Lynch it. he never claimed batman. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
He have claimed anything but Batman. Thats what makes me think he's Batman. I would say playing the way Palmar have done as either Scum or Town would be incredible bad. But then again if he levels me it would be incredible good as scum. /WIFOM | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
If he already knows who's hugo (palmar could have lied, never shot rad, checked him instead, said he shot him, making us think he he talia) and wants us to lynch hugo so that he can just shoot me. That's a possibility and I'm willing to take that risk. Because in every other scenario he's helping town. Even if it's what I just said in brackets, which is highly unlikely given Radfield said he took a hit, I don't care. We have to win this and lynching Batman is not to win. Yes I am the joker, yes I am a multivig, yes I might die, no blueroles don't win this game theirselves. We need to lynch mafia today. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Mafia can't kill palmar but he's most likely going to shoot into mafia => they'll RB him => he can't kill me or Hugo Mafia can't RB me if they have to RB palmar => they're going to kill me => palmar knows that => no need to kill me unless Hugo is already dead. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:54 Toadesstern wrote: Okay here's the thing people. I'm pretty sure he won't shoot me because he still has to figure hugo out. If he already knows who's hugo (palmar could have lied, never shot rad, checked him instead, said he shot him, making us think he he talia) and wants us to lynch hugo so that he can just shoot me. That's a possibility and I'm willing to take that risk. Because in every other scenario he's helping town. Even if it's what I just said in brackets, which is highly unlikely given Radfield said he took a hit, I don't care. We have to win this and lynching Batman is not to win. Yes I am the joker, yes I am a multivig, yes I might die, no blueroles don't win this game theirselves. We need to lynch mafia today. pfffuuh. I am not sure I agree with you. If we mislynch and he kills you, we're pretty much screwed. Lynching Palmar let us keep our dayvig alive which is as good as a KP as palmar, only pure town. To the RB thing, I don't know why scum blocked batman instead of Rad. WIFOM: maybe they thought palmar is killing bugs... who do you want to lynch toad? Rad's name + the fact that no other DT claimed makes me really unconfident lynching him. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On February 13 2012 23:30 Palmar wrote: Bill Murray Toadesstern Visceraeyes Hiro Protagonist Jayjay54 Layabout Tobberath jaybrundage Tyran Tunkeg Kurumi Risk.nuke Kitaman27 rayzorflash Evantrees -_-qualis forumite Radfield rgtheschworz Palmar Chaoser Katina Adam4167 On February 06 2012 05:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: They claim at any point in time they are modkilled. If they hint their role and I catch it they are modkilled. They can claim hits, they can claim who they checked. Anyone who attempts to force a mass batman or catwoman claim will be banned after game concludes and both batman/catwoman in that circumstance may claim their role. Same general rules apply as last game in this regard. It comes down to, anyone who attempts to exploit or circumvent a rule will be punished. On that note. I will be firing out roles within the next 20-30 minutes, game will start between 10 and 11 pm est tonight. If they hint their role and I catch it they are modkilled. Palmar that post could definitely be interpreted as claiming 3rd party. but such speculation is against the spirit of the game and we should be careful and avoid discussing it. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Mafia will not RB me tonight. They're probably going to kill me to reduce town KP. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
This is rule-skirting, and this isn't something Palmar is in the habit of doing. Palmar is scum. Kill the scum with fire. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:03 Toadesstern wrote: yeah they need to RB palmar tonight. They can't RB me even if they want to. And so far I said a lot of things. I said i'm going to shoot hiro, I said I'm going to shoot kita and I said I'm going to shoot you. Nevertheless I think you're mafia right now. Mafia will not RB me tonight. They're probably going to kill me to reduce town KP. I am mafia now? Because I voted batman? To save you? Nice. They will RB you and batman will kill you. Then, and we agree here, he will be helping town A LOT. Batman has 5 cycles to reduce mafia KP. The question is, if we want to keep batman around or you. There is no other scenario IMO. I'd rather keep you, as you are confirmed town + multivig. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I'd say we lynch Radfield or hiro tonight. I don't see a reason why radfield should still be alive / not be rb'ed as DT. Maybe we've got another DT. Maybe he just never claimed. After all Two-Face and penguin are bound to be in this game. If we mislynch and palmar really is Batman he has lost the game as well imo. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:07 Jayjay54 wrote: I am mafia now? Because I voted batman? To save you? Nice. They will RB you and batman will kill you. Then, and we agree here, he will be helping town A LOT. Batman has 5 cycles to reduce mafia KP. The question is, if we want to keep batman around or you. There is no other scenario IMO. I'd rather keep you, as you are confirmed town + multivig. sry that was directed at VE | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Oh well. Burn the Heretic. Kill the Mutant. Purge the Unclean. I am on a crusade. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
VE, palmar basically 75% claimed batman, all his actions scream batman. It makes you look really scummy that you call him scum. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny. The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well. In response to layabout: I never voted for VE because it was a random vote hours into the game to promote discussion. At the end of the day, I'm voting for ico, the person I think most likely to flip scum. You attack me for mentioning that I don't think CC suggests a plan as scum. It may not be a common theme for games you've played in, but its a heuristic that seems to work pretty well. So what exactly is my motivation? I'm explaining why I'm unwilling to vote for CC. You would think giving people are reason not to vote for him would give me townie points not scum points. I don't really follow your discussion about kurumi. He fake claims vig, I pushed him for a name claim because I thought he was lying. (Turns out he was) Does that make him scum? Maybe, not really looking at him at the moment. How exactly was I supposed to explain my stance on Sheth? There was a red dt check. Not really much to discuss. Fake dt claims don't make sense in those kind of situations. You're trying to say that I was pushing a chaoser lynch instead of a Sheth lynch? lol. Sheth obviously was flipping. It was like 22v2. My discussion about a chaoser lynch was for subsequent days. This point is silly. I like an evantrees lynch. -He accuses CC as being catwomen and states that he plans to vote for him. Scum know that he can't be scum, so they accuse their suspects of being third party. -When actually voting for CC, he uses the phrase "bah" as if he doesn't want to vote or is being bullied into voting. This was the guy you just said you wanted lynched hours earlier wasn't it? -He votes Schworz on early day two. Scum know that DrH can't possibly be red. I think everyone should go back and read the Schworz-DrH exchange and take a look at who has additional knowledge of the situation. I must have missed something. Why does everyone consider chaoser green/blue? I can't seem to find where Schworz gives the result of his check. This is the guy that fake claimed the day one check. Why is anything he says actually taken at face-value? If not evantrees I think I'd still prefer rayzorflash or chaoser. I was kinda spooked when evantrees asks a question about a scum role in green, but scum have done that plenty of times in the past (I hate when they do -_-) | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Or maybe Toad, MAYBE scum chose to RB someone else. Maybe they RB'd the person they killed...DocH was basically claimed Clayface, maybe they RB'd him to make sure he died? Who the fuck KNOWS why scum didn't RB Rad...but that's not incriminating at ALL in my opinion. Whoever told you that was trying to manipulate you Toad, I promise you. And I just bet it was Palmar wasn't it? Clayface already took a hit n1. No need to RB him to make sure he dies. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:14 Kurumi wrote: You just want to RB me and protect Your team. Oh well. Burn the Heretic. Kill the Mutant. Purge the Unclean. I am on a crusade. well. you are catwoman. You only have to kill town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On February 14 2012 02:16 Toadesstern wrote: Clayface already took a hit n1. No need to RB him to make sure he dies. You're missing my point - we don't know who scum RB'd, and if we did, we don't know why. The fact that Radfield wasn't RBd only means that their agenda didn't involve Radfield at the time - it's not incriminating that he wasn't roleblocked at all. That's my point. But whatever - my vote is on Palmar and that's who I think we should be lynching today. I've gotta get ready for work and shit, I'll be back before the lynch to try and convince everyone some more...but I'm against lynching Radfield today. You won't find me within a mile of that lynch because it's based on Palmar's case who I think is scum. Anyone listening to Palmar should be considered suspect. This shit is getting ridiculous. | ||
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