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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 13 2012 17:23 GMT
#2841
I'm not against a hiro lynch. If we're not lynching Palmar, hiro is absolutely an acceptable substitute.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 17:23 GMT
#2842
On February 14 2012 02:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Apologies for my absence. I've been without internet for the last 24 hours. I tried to stop by the library yesterday, but all the computers were taken and I didn't stick around to wait. Funny that I'm apparently suddenly scum because I go half a day without posting. Since when have I ever been an afk scum? I already gave you guys the list of bad guys, what more do you want? I could spam up the thread and make a new fake claim every few hours if that would make everyone feel better.

The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.

The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol

Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well.

In response to layabout:
I never voted for VE because it was a random vote hours into the game to promote discussion. At the end of the day, I'm voting for ico, the person I think most likely to flip scum.

You attack me for mentioning that I don't think CC suggests a plan as scum. It may not be a common theme for games you've played in, but its a heuristic that seems to work pretty well. So what exactly is my motivation? I'm explaining why I'm unwilling to vote for CC. You would think giving people are reason not to vote for him would give me townie points not scum points.

I don't really follow your discussion about kurumi. He fake claims vig, I pushed him for a name claim because I thought he was lying. (Turns out he was) Does that make him scum? Maybe, not really looking at him at the moment.

How exactly was I supposed to explain my stance on Sheth? There was a red dt check. Not really much to discuss. Fake dt claims don't make sense in those kind of situations. You're trying to say that I was pushing a chaoser lynch instead of a Sheth lynch? lol. Sheth obviously was flipping. It was like 22v2. My discussion about a chaoser lynch was for subsequent days. This point is silly.

I like an evantrees lynch.
-He accuses CC as being catwomen and states that he plans to vote for him. Scum know that he can't be scum, so they accuse their suspects of being third party.
-When actually voting for CC, he uses the phrase "bah" as if he doesn't want to vote or is being bullied into voting. This was the guy you just said you wanted lynched hours earlier wasn't it?
-He votes Schworz on early day two. Scum know that DrH can't possibly be red. I think everyone should go back and read the Schworz-DrH exchange and take a look at who has additional knowledge of the situation.

I must have missed something. Why does everyone consider chaoser green/blue? I can't seem to find where Schworz gives the result of his check. This is the guy that fake claimed the day one check. Why is anything he says actually taken at face-value?

If not evantrees I think I'd still prefer rayzorflash or chaoser. I was kinda spooked when evantrees asks a question about a scum role in green, but scum have done that plenty of times in the past (I hate when they do -_-)


Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:25 GMT
#2843
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 17:28 GMT
#2844
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 13 2012 17:30 GMT
#2845
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.

I thought You were Penguin. Penguin and bodyguards? Sounds cool.
But then I needed to kill wbg. Because he wanted to hang me.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:31 GMT
#2846
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:32 GMT
#2847
On February 14 2012 02:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.

I thought You were Penguin. Penguin and bodyguards? Sounds cool.
But then I needed to kill wbg. Because he wanted to hang me.


I'd like you to stfu or you're getting modkilled :p
I wasn't asking you.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2012 17:33 GMT
#2848
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 13 2012 17:34 GMT
#2849
On February 14 2012 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:30 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.

I thought You were Penguin. Penguin and bodyguards? Sounds cool.
But then I needed to kill wbg. Because he wanted to hang me.


I'd like you to stfu or you're getting modkilled :p
I wasn't asking you.

I just hate Penguin with passion just like Opz did.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 17:34 GMT
#2850
On February 14 2012 02:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p


you really want to do this, don't you? If we lynch scum you are even more dead , but that's a noble sacrifice.

so who do you think? VEs recent posts were bad.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 17:37 GMT
#2851
On February 14 2012 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.


alright, I asked for your advice. I think you are a vet and know what to do.

##unvote

I still don't agree on evantrees, however. What about NUKE, I made a case, if you want to have a look. I still think he's the best lynch of the lurk fraction.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:40 GMT
#2852
On February 14 2012 02:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:31 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p


you really want to do this, don't you? If we lynch scum you are even more dead , but that's a noble sacrifice.

so who do you think? VEs recent posts were bad.


he hasn't posted a lot the last couple of days (RL-days) and now out of nowhere all thoe fancy people come crowling out of nowhere. Also he's better than what did in his most recent posts. I thought he's town early on because he's not trolling at all, tried to play although he posted very little and it looked like he tried.
VE is one of the guys who are quite infamous here and the last couple of games he tried to get rid of that reputation and really showed some good games. He was pretty vocal in all of them and tried to not tunnel.
He's doing that right now and as mentioned he really isn't that bad. I think he's defending his scumbuddies which obviously would make hiro look green right now so I am confused again :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
February 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#2853
It does make sense for penguin to have a bodyguard vet too, probably Solomon Grundy (fits game lore/theme)

My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...

##vote: Radfield
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#2854
On February 14 2012 02:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:31 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p


you really want to do this, don't you? If we lynch scum you are even more dead , but that's a noble sacrifice.

so who do you think? VEs recent posts were bad.


he hasn't posted a lot the last couple of days (RL-days) and now out of nowhere all thoe fancy people come crowling out of nowhere. Also he's better than what did in his most recent posts. I thought he's town early on because he's not trolling at all, tried to play although he posted very little and it looked like he tried.
VE is one of the guys who are quite infamous here and the last couple of games he tried to get rid of that reputation and really showed some good games. He was pretty vocal in all of them and tried to not tunnel.
He's doing that right now and as mentioned he really isn't that bad. I think he's defending his scumbuddies which obviously would make hiro look green right now so I am confused again :p


Hey Toad, don't do anything stupid, like shooting VE this night. There are plenty others who are better targets.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:46 GMT
#2855
However given how much I failed this game I'd like someone else to step up and explain who we should lynch tonight. If I am wrong again I basicly lost the game on my own because I made every townie follow me, which is a nice treat to have but really not if you're wrong.

I am not willing to lynch third party today. We need to lynch mafia. That's all that matters for today.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#2856
On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.


alright, I asked for your advice. I think you are a vet and know what to do.

##unvote


Don't try to sheep onto me. Vote giving your own reasons.

On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
I still don't agree on evantrees, however. What about NUKE, I made a case, if you want to have a look. I still think he's the best lynch of the lurk fraction.


I'd be much more open to lynching you than risk. There was an error in the votecount. Risk voted for sheth on day one making it something like 9v7 in favor of Sheth. Why are you unwilling to vote evantrees who called bugs scum, yet so willing to lynch risk, who called Sheth scum. Could you explain your preference?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#2857
Scum coming out in full force to get Radfield lynched? lol
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#2858
On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
It does make sense for penguin to have a bodyguard vet too, probably Solomon Grundy (fits game lore/theme)

My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...

##vote: Radfield

the fuck?
it's 15v5 and you don't want to lynch a mafia because lynching someone else is probably going to give more information?
You say you wouldn't mind lynching palmar but voted radfield?
+ Show Spoiler +
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 13 2012 17:52 GMT
#2859
On February 14 2012 02:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:23 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hey speaking of the devil well timed bro.

so what's your stance on lynching batman, you're a vet, you'll have reason.

Lynching Palmar as batman to save joker? good? bad?

Also evantrees is still not a good choice he voted rG when it was time to vote him, he votes sheth immediatly he calls WBG scum. HIs post seem towny too. A coinflip at best.


There is no way we should lynch the batman. He doesn't win until he finds Hugo. He might even shoot into some other scum in the process. We should focus on lynching scum to snowball the information. Catwoman is a bit tougher, but I'd still prefer to find another scum before we lynch into her.

The only reason I'd want to lynch Palmar is if I though he was scum. It is certainly possible he is trying to make everyone believe he is third party, but I'd rather lynch into my list first. It's unfortunate that we lose the Joker, but Batman should know he has to find Hugo first in order to protect himself from a scum majority.

I don't think voting Sheth immediately matters one way or another. There was a red dt check on him. He does call WBG scum, but he doesn't actually follow through with it. Why is he voting CC if bugs is his scumread? I might make a more detailed case on Rayzor or chaoser if I have time. No promises though.


alright, I asked for your advice. I think you are a vet and know what to do.

##unvote


Don't try to sheep onto me. Vote giving your own reasons.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
I still don't agree on evantrees, however. What about NUKE, I made a case, if you want to have a look. I still think he's the best lynch of the lurk fraction.


I'd be much more open to lynching you than risk. There was an error in the votecount. Risk voted for sheth on day one making it something like 9v7 in favor of Sheth. Why are you unwilling to vote evantrees who called bugs scum, yet so willing to lynch risk, who called Sheth scum. Could you explain your preference?


I sheeped by choice. Normally I don't sheep, but this time, I might have a wrong idea. And I never played with third parties. So I sincerely asked for vet advise.

as to why nuke >> evantrees:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&currentpage=139#2776
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:53 GMT
#2860
I'm going to sheep forumite. Get in this thread
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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