Sleeper Cell Mafia II

On January 27 2012 04:25 Zephirdd wrote:
Let me summarize the plan for you guys.

Don't worry about semantics, just try to not create leaders. This way scum won't have a solid target.

Why is it so hard to understand something that simple?

This is a ridiculous argument. In no way does anyone get ignored and in no way do leaders not emerge. Leaders don't become leaders because a bunch of people call them town. Leaders become leaders and THEN a bunch of people call them town. Just keep your townreads to yourself, at the very least early on in the game(Day 1/2)

Consider this vader. If mafia restriction is not 5 words, then mafia now are almost certain Cwave is townie and a good person to push to lynch(As an aside, just like # of mafia, no one should be speculating on # words or characters).

On January 26 2012 14:02 redFF wrote:
I think the key and best part about it is that it leaves out varying degrees of townieness so that we don't have 6 people in the thread calling one person very town and then that person gets killed.

On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.

On January 27 2012 13:00 redFF wrote:

Navillus is a far better lynch.

On January 28 2012 03:39 Radfield wrote:
Lynching lurkers is not a strat I normally agree with, but it seems quite a bit more viable(Day1) in this setup(given that we can't effectively trace mafia votes Day 1.

On January 28 2012 05:43 Lanaia wrote:
Now that I fully understand what rad was trying to say, I agree. However, if he'd actually said "don't call people town" I probably would have understood more quickly. Not touching his wagon with a 20 foot pole. I do not want him lynched today.

On January 29 2012 07:51 Blazinghand wrote:


Someone give this man a medal

On January 29 2012 10:47 Lanaia wrote:
We will not lynch him. Ever. Well, I won't but I will actively fight against it.
had pegged him as scum but things change.

On January 29 2012 11:23 Lanaia wrote:
Def want to hear from scamp. Will try to postbefore workbut no promises. Need sleep.

Anyone know if there's a refresh function on the android system?

On January 26 2012 14:04 GGQ wrote:
About finding mafia, we can't rely so much on finding scum by linking players together. Even if scum gets lynched, we can't be sure whether their defenders were scum or misguided town because scum don't know (at least not 100%) who their partners are.

So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking. Scum will be the players trying to ride the line between been too scummy and getting lynched or being too towny and getting shot. Town, on the other hand, shouldnt be afraid of shots so they'll be the towniest towns.

On January 28 2012 08:46 Lanaia wrote:
All you have on Meapak is that he's been lurking. That says shit all for his alignment. I am not moving my vote onto meapak, at least not today. We have about 15min to deadline. It's highly unlikely to get the lynch you want at this point in time.
You're tunneling. Why didn't you do this earlier in the day? Your logic doesn't feel completely sound to me.
Holy hell you are tunneling so badly. You should have been pushing him all day. I don't like how you're acting and it actually really frightens me.

How. The. Fuck....
How is MZ hustling?

On January 26 2012 14:05 GGQ wrote:
We actually have no confirmation of any medics, and it looks like there's only one KP so there might not be a medic at all.

On January 27 2012 04:34 GGQ wrote:


<3

On January 27 2012 04:48 GGQ wrote:


Jackal and logic have never gotten along well together.

On January 28 2012 09:11 GGQ wrote:


How ironic

On January 29 2012 06:15 GGQ wrote:


Seriously, bud, stop being such an asshole. It's completely unnecessary regardless of your alignment.

I might not be back before lynch, so if I die I suspect bumatlarge, Cwave, and blazinghand. After that look at redFF, refallen and lanaia.

Hey guys, Lurkers aren't scum don't worry look for people that aren't lurking and lynch them.

BRB I need to lurk a shit ton.

On January 30 2012 00:20 Zephirdd wrote:
@V7

wtf bro
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303792&currentpage=16#314

Of course I mention lurkers, what I don't do is to copy-and-paste the thoughts that Lurking is REALLY scummy this game, because it was said two or three times already.

@redFF
What the fuck? õ_o
Considering Greymist is a host, I'd assume it's a role in the terms of "I can only investigate someone who voted me" from Steamship Liquida, did I hit it spot on? :D

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On January 30 2012 02:18 Scamp wrote:
Well this is just awesome, I wake up to a smattering of votes. While four of you have it right, I'm now suspicious of vaderseven, Refallen, and Jackal58. Don't pretend that the Radfield debacle isn't important or a good source of information.

Refallen may get a reprieve here depending on what happens with redFF, but I personally don't get what he's doing at all. If he has some kind of power that activates when people vote him, then why doesn't he ask for everyone to vote him? The rules don't actually say anything about when the lynch ends, I think it's just at the end of the day. I don't think there's any kind of majority hammer.

Also this seriously caught my eye.



How exactly do you figure this?

On January 30 2012 08:25 GGQ wrote:
No time to chat, Cwave is scum, see you all tomorrow.

On January 30 2012 08:44 Lanaia wrote:
Red doesn't feel like how he normally feels when I think he's scum and when I think he's scum he's usually town so I think he's probably actually scum right now. But we'll see eventually.

On February 02 2012 02:07 Jackal58 wrote:

My scum list was 3 I hadn't voted for. And my vote is going to go on Refallen. redFF seemed to be begging for another vote. Fwiw I don't really see red as scum. I'm just calling him scum to piss him off. Cause that's like a hobby of mine.

So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking.

Did you think I was joking when I said I had no time to chat?



Sorry but I think it’s honestly pretty obvious at this point. The people that are scummiest are the people that everyone is talking about lynching.

On February 04 2012 09:29 GGQ wrote:


How many limelights are there? Look at vaderseven's filter and explain to me why it's better than mine.

On February 04 2012 09:49 Lanaia wrote:
Vader, do you think he'd be hiding by doing what he's doing if he is scum?

On February 04 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote:
I really feel like we cant get good cases built on people like red (if he is scum) until we deal with the outliers in this game like GGQ.

They are sheeping and last second voting and are really in control over this game as much as you or I but without allowing their words to be committed to posts.

What really gets me is how this style makes them an easy DONT SHOOT ME target at night because they aren't leading the town to any lynches or making cases etc.

On February 04 2012 09:49 Lanaia wrote:
People I am willing to lynch today:
GGQ
Heymyrr
Zeph
Possibly redff.

On February 04 2012 10:24 Hesmyrr wrote:
Red, it's 5-5 today.

On February 04 2012 10:42 redFF wrote:

I think you've been scummy too.

This is an overreaction.

On February 04 2012 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:


lanaia actually already claimed detective earlier in this thread, and also claimed that I was not town.

On February 04 2012 11:58 Blazinghand wrote:
It could be so that the mafia don't know how many cops there are? or maybe on the flip sanities aren't revealed, or something? this is definitely an "ask igrok" question

On February 04 2012 12:32 redFF wrote:
what do you think of naia's claim vader?

On February 04 2012 12:31 redFF wrote:
somebody please vote and unvote me

On February 05 2012 01:50 redFF wrote:
people checked by a cop are not confirmed. I thin the chance of a gf in this game is reasonably high.

I think we should lynch scamp as I'm almost positive he'll flip scum.

On February 08 2012 03:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
Why don't you kill me and find out
Jesus Christ this town.

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
...
2. Ruining the game
...

On February 08 2012 04:32 vaderseven wrote:
BTW, if anyone wants to wake up and realize how simple of a matter it is to lynch GGQ as scum I will be down for that ANYTIME.

On February 09 2012 14:13 redFF wrote:
why in christ's name would you die

On February 10 2012 14:26 Blazinghand wrote:
So aside from "no result" on redFF your claim is worthless and you forgot you use your action n2

On February 08 2012 14:07 vaderseven wrote:
Red, Im reacting to the reads given by our dead DT and idea of 4 scum.

If I have to scream till Im blue in the face that GGQ is scum I will but at this point no one seems to give a flying fuck.

I am very willing to move on to self voters in situations where apathetic town would just go afk instead of putting on the drama.

Notice how I have mentioned that GGQ is obv scum like every other post for fucking ever.

Notice how no one cares?

Would you keep that pressure on for that long when there is other scummy as fucks around?

But lol at you posting that me talking about anything else makes me scummy ;D

I mean, jeez, its not like the guy didn't ask for it. He self voted and emo quit the game during my lunch break.

On February 10 2012 14:18 vaderseven wrote:
Ok, I was going to hold off on claiming this but I got a very interesting result last night. I really hope red is around to comment on this.

I am a Detective. I did not breadcrumb anything except a brief mention of turning blue in the face about GGQ.

On February 08 2012 14:07 vaderseven wrote:
Red, Im reacting to the reads given by our dead DT and idea of 4 scum.

If I have to scream till Im blue in the face that GGQ is scum I will but at this point no one seems to give a flying fuck.

I am very willing to move on to self voters in situations where apathetic town would just go afk instead of putting on the drama.

Notice how I have mentioned that GGQ is obv scum like every other post for fucking ever.

Notice how no one cares?

Would you keep that pressure on for that long when there is other scummy as fucks around?

But lol at you posting that me talking about anything else makes me scummy ;D

I mean, jeez, its not like the guy didn't ask for it. He self voted and emo quit the game during my lunch break.

On February 10 2012 14:18 vaderseven wrote:
Ok, I was going to hold off on claiming this but I got a very interesting result last night. I really hope red is around to comment on this.

I am a Detective. I did not breadcrumb anything except a brief mention of turning blue in the face about GGQ.

On February 11 2012 01:21 Blazinghand wrote:
i would be very surprised if there was a lynch proof scum, since town doesn't have KP roles, it seems.

On February 10 2012 09:29 Jackal58 wrote:
iGrok said he might be late.
I have no interest in lynching redFF if I'm alive at the next day post. Nobody else should either.
However if red cannot or will not or gives a bogus explanation for his vote/unvote bs after tomorrow I will have no problem killing him over whoever else is remaining. I strongly urge which ever of us is remaining from Lanaia's pool of townies to take the same approach to red.

On February 04 2012 10:24 Hesmyrr wrote:
Red, it's 5-5 today.

On February 13 2012 09:09 redFF wrote:
so erm lets hear v7s check

On February 13 2012 10:33 redFF wrote:
LOL WHY DID YOU NOT KILL HIM

On February 13 2012 10:42 Zephirdd wrote:
mb I"m miller

On February 14 2012 10:14 redFF wrote:
if its just scum shooting themselves trololol then i will be so mad

On February 14 2012 11:22 iGrok wrote:

[2/12/2012 5:32:18 PM] Jack "iGrok" Dickerson: if red votes first and vadar doesn't vote, red dies (becuase thats his role)

On February 14 2012 11:22 Blazinghand wrote:
Good work, gents. V7 your story really didn't add up, and I had you on my shit list, but unfortunately I wasn't able to get you. Good work, though. Well played. Also what is Attention whore.

On February 14 2012 11:25 Blazinghand wrote:


GGQ was pretty clear. That was a really solid bus.

On February 14 2012 11:28 Zephirdd wrote:
What, GGQ even broadcast "QisSleeper", how wouldn't you realize he was scum, being the only "Q" ingame? D:

What bugged me was Hesmyrr being scum and bum not.

On February 14 2012 11:29 GreYMisT wrote:
My question is why, with rad dead, you guys didnt just look at your player number and broadcast #1 is scum or #7 is scum or something, you could have all confirmed yourselves before night 2

On February 14 2012 12:17 redFF wrote:

this is the perfect summarization of how fucking stupid this game was

On February 14 2012 17:15 Cwave wrote:
Thanks for hosting!

/slap self for thinking Radfield was 100% scum.
/slap self more for not lynching GGQ sooner. I can't believe we let that guy cruise and ultralurk for so long

On February 14 2012 23:35 Palmar wrote:
Just wanna pop in and say I agree with iGrok's method of running the game. As long as both factions still have a chance to win there is no need to call the game unless the rules explicitly state so.

I mean, I understand it being frustrating to play in a game where you don't think you have a chance at winning, or very little chance, but just try to make the best of it. Or, if you need to, just ask the host to replace you. Then criticize the setup in a constructive manner.

On February 14 2012 12:20 vaderseven wrote:
Oh i didn't realize the power jackal had fuck-

SENATOR: You are a Senator up for re-election. Because you are a politician, you are corrupt as shit. You can completely ignore your constituents and cancel the lynch of the day, substituting your own target. Of course, if you do this, you will be impeached and will be unable to do this again. (You will not be modconfirmed, its just a 1-shot power with flavor).