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On January 12 2012 04:22 syllogism wrote:
Pretty much everything you said about Tyrran (passivity, lack of confidence in his reads, overall disinterest in the lynches) applied to risk as well. Can you point out what made risk look like a townie (?) to you?
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...you think a guy who nearly got lynched wasn't interested in the lynch? Are you being serious right now?
On January 08 2012 08:15 risk.nuke wrote:
layabout is probably a townie, Question Palmar and Dirkzor, Erandorr and Jackal are red. Banish syllo/wiggles tonight, see you. On January 08 2012 09:41 risk.nuke wrote:
whew, I'm so god damn relived right now On January 09 2012 04:50 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 04:32 syllogism wrote:On January 09 2012 04:18 Dirkzor wrote:On January 09 2012 04:06 syllogism wrote:On January 09 2012 04:01 Palmar wrote:
yeah, this needs to be done now, or not. I'd rather go with not. This is palmar scum claiming. He has been trolling for a while now but this is as close at is gets If I had written that would you take that as scum claiming? No, but you aren't a player who I talk extensively about the game, in and out of the game. It's extremely unlikely that he would say that as town and I'm pretty sure that when he wrote that he knew very well how it would look like to me; he has by this point realized that there is little he can do to avoid being lynched so might as well have some fun. Imo a town Palmar would respond to that with a pretty huge post declaring why the plan is dumb alternativly if he approved of the plan he would write additional thoughts or/and reason further why it is a good plan. On January 11 2012 00:49 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 00:19 syllogism wrote:On January 10 2012 23:34 risk.nuke wrote:On January 10 2012 23:33 syllogism wrote:
Zephirdd: you don't assume stupid things just because they are possible. Read my filter and tell me if it looks like scum play; it does not. I even suggested that the channeler should use its power to protect likely n1 targets, which would be ridiculously bad if I was the angel of death. Thus you should either conclude that they tried to hit me or HoD is the angel. The former likely implies that there was a reason for angels to want me dead, which implicates risk/tyrran. This means nothing, quite obviously if you were scum you would act like you played pro town. This is perhaps the single most scummiest thing I've seen on TL Mafia. Lynch this scum please lol, bullshit. There were a very very fucking very good chance that if you hadn't said that somebody else would had and you know that. The abillity has 2 functions, roleblock and save. Save is about 1000xtimes better. Period. I laugh at your "I said it first and it's an anti angel move so I can't be an angel" logic. fucking proposterous that you're trying to milk that so far. You're trying to claim that just because you're playing pro-town you can't possibly be scum. Ha. And right now you're tunneling me on a shitty case that only makes sense if you were an angel so thats what I think of you beeing pro-town.
Yup, no confidence in any of those, certainly no aggressive tones or anything either. Also, as I stated before, Risk's play varies quite widely from game to game, despite him having been town in every game I have played with him. That is certainly not the norm for most players.
But, the real deciding factor for me was nothing to do with that, it was simply that Risk's play seemed to be explainable from the perspective of a townie on the verge of being lynched and frustrated at having to defend himself. Knowing my own alignment, it was also odd to me that I was his main defender, I figured if he was scum surely a scum buddy would support my defense of him. Obviously that point doesn't get to apply to other people though, as they don't know my alignment. Was I sold on him being town? No, but he also didn't make my top 5 most likely to be scum. Tyrran on the other hand was doing that shit with me being the only real source of pressure on him.
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Besides you didn't "defend" risk or push Tyrran. You made a few posts stating on your opinion on the lynches (it sounded like you were ok with risk lynch). Who are the "other players" in the game you would have lynched over risk, besides Tyrran?
Overall I don't have a problem with your posting. The issue I have is that if you aren't AoD, why did they risk shooting me last night if I was likely going to be leading another mislynch?
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None of those posts demonstrate the things you were talking about and aggression against the person who is pushing to lynch you isn't particularly a townie trait. He didn't sound like a vt who was about to be lynched while town was still in a good position. That day one "phew I escaped a lynch" post sounded forced or at best null. He didn't make your top 5 most likely to be scum? You said you would vote for him over RoL at least. Who were your top 5 reads over risk and why didn't you talk about them?
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On January 12 2012 04:44 syllogism wrote:
Besides you didn't "defend" risk or push Tyrran. You made a few posts stating on your opinion on the lynches (it sounded like you were ok with risk lynch). Who are the "other players" in the game you would have lynched over risk, besides Tyrran?
Overall I don't have a problem with your posting. The issue I have is that if you aren't AoD, why did they risk shooting me last night if I was likely going to be leading another mislynch?
Err, then what was this post?
On January 11 2012 14:02 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@RoL See this post for the current time remaining in the day: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603#6Anyway, I got the chance to spend some time today doing a bunch of rereading, and after doing so I will not be voting for RoL nor Risk today. Maybe I'm being dense, but I really don't see them as being leading candidates for flipping scum. If I end up having to choose between the two to avoid a no lynch, I favor lynching Risk over RoL, but I'd prefer to lynch neither. My top target remains Tyrran. His passivity and seeming lack of confidence in his reads and overall disinterest in the lynches just seems unlike most townies, and unlike how he played in my prior game with him. While I didn't want to make the following point yet to see if he would keep doing it, Dirkzor already brought it up and stated it quite well, so no reason not to restate it now: Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 03:38 Dirkzor wrote:In the end I'll just quote how Tyrran have taken no stance on anybody he have written a case on. Note: These quotes are cut, but they are all the last part of Posts by Tyrran. So reffallen, can you please explain why you thought it is not optimal for angels to kill demons ? I dont see much drawback for them doing this. Also it's your turn to step and and post. Who do you think is most scum rigth now ? You seems to hold a grudge against him because he called you fishy early day 1. Why do you focus so much on him, and not on Blazinghand who actually voted against you ?
On the other hand, i would also like to see you post more Cwave. You seems to have an excel file where you write your read on us. Tell me, who do you think we should lynch today, why ? Cwave, you are someone who seems towns, but in reality you did not help much at all until now. While you migth be a timid town, I also think it is likely you are scum player. Please answer this : Is there anyone you really think is scum ? Someone you would be fine pushing for lynch ? Who ? Why ? You seem to spend a lot of time analysing people. Please prove us that you are town by trying to get scummy people lynched. While I think that alone is scummy for any player to do, here's some examples of how Tyrran himself presented cases in his prior game: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 20:07 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 18:23 prplhz wrote:
Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too
##Vote Kenpachi So you were a fervent defender of only lynching 'scummy' lurkers. And now you suddenly decide to vote for kenpachi without giving any reason Could you please detail a bit more on why you like kenpachi as a vote, other than the fact that he did not post much ? His townie claim basically does not mean anything Keeping an eyes on lurkers is good, but i would wait to the end on day 1(the last 24 hours) before voting for one of them. It seems to me that blanket voting this early on day one can only lead us divide our attention. Voting for someone whenever he says something strange without trying to pressure him more/confirm him as scum is a great way to lynch a lot of townies and seems to be a good strategy for the mafia side, but not that great for town ( obviously). Bumatlarge espescially has been trying to push the town into lynching as many people as possible. Almost each one of his post include a quote on how we should lynch every single player. Spoiler below shows some example from this filter : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=31777+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:Why would you FoS when you can just vote them. Don't be pansies. Realized I didn't properly vote. I doubt I will ever take my vote off of kenpachi, it's not that I don't like him, but he is not an asset to the town at the moment, or the forseeable future. Nisani has proceeded to call me dumb or scum, but that doesn't change the fact that his fluffy posts stick out, so it will stay there until he remedies it. ##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Nisani201And this Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:##Vote: Sabin010
Bad vibes also this - On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote:
I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off. On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote:
This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same. Is why LAL is bad. What possible reason would cause mafia to post this instead of town. By all means keep up the detective work and checking out all the inconsistencies, but use a little sense. This definetely contradicts itself, and it could very well be an intentional lie, but even that doesn't make him scum. The bad strategy reason tht DCL brought up is actually something to go on. You are pushing your luck by trying to find lies a day into the game. Use that energy to filter a suspicious person instead and get a general vibe, and see if their future posts push you one way or the other. If there wasn't a majority lynch in play, I'd put my vote on everyone, and start taking off people who don't register as scum. That's about how many people I think should be lynched each day. On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are.Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit. Oh, hi kibbibit  ##Vote Nisani201 On November 16 2011 12:37 bumatlarge wrote:
We got 48 hours from now, right? This time tomorrow we need to look at the votes and see where people stand. I'm honestly surprised how few votes there are, you get as many as you want, a decent townie can take advantage of this. There is no comparing how scummy certain players are to others, you just lynch them or you don't. I guess it's still early, and I'm still fishing for reads here. Oh and surprise, the only post not advocating to lynch the entire town is to defend chaoser, the ONLY person that agreed with the 'vote for everyone' strategy, after he got pressured by WBG. And by defending him, he explains than chaoser should stop doing just what he was advocating the town to do i.e: vote for everyone that seems scummy. Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Welcome to WBG logic. But that doesn't make what he says untrue, I think chaoser should focus his attention more and prove singleton cases rather then babble on about everything. Doubt he's scum though. So you spend all your post explaining we should vote for anyone who seems scummy, and you defend chaoser that was doing exactly that by saying "he should focus his attention more". How is that not a huge contradiction ? FoS bumatlarge. On November 17 2011 06:55 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. Actually, i think that's a good point. However, if kenpachi flips red, i still think we should auto lynch lanaia. We cant let someone that anti voted a scum go free. Also, if lanaia is blue, she will most likely be a priority kill for the mafia ( who now knows she isnt green), and migth not live to see day 2 anyway. Also kenpachi, you're only defense is : "LOL TOWN IS BAD". I seriously hope that you can do better than that. ##Vote Kenpachi On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote:
So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum.
First of all, Sinani was a big partisan of dividing our attention . Quite amusingly he used the divide and conquer analogy, where as pointed by WBG, you are suppose to divide you enemy. Meaning we town are the enemy?
He Bandwagoned against Lanaia, which as i explained before, is something that is very pro-mafia. Just look at his post just before, when we already established that Lanaia should not be lynched. Both his votes are given without any explanation other than "its obvious". He is either scum or an extremely bad town. Even Drazerk looks good in comparison. I dont think town needs him.
##Vote Sinani206
On November 22 2011 07:19 Tyrran wrote:
Also, while I'm at it :
##Vote: Coagulation
##Vote: Sabin010
##Vote: xsksc
You lurkers unburrow just to lynch an innocent WITHOUT any justification at all, and completely disregarding the post where I understand that prp is a potential blue ( yes i called him vigi which he denied but still) and Palmar huge post in his defence. You are either scum or really crappy town, i dont want you in the game either way. I also dislike the look of xsksc->spaackle so far. I think the only original contribution either has made was spaackle's argument of Palmar looking town...which is not the best contribution to have. xsksc's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=149333Spaackle takes over: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=164534I would appreciate it if others would take a look at bluelightz and tell me what they think. I am having trouble seeing how his posts make sense from a town perspective or a scum perspective, which is baffling to me. He seems to really like doing post by post...but then summarizing instead of analyzing. I don't think I've ever seen such a style before. @Cwave Please try to make your posts a bit more clear. I understand that english may not be your native language, but reading your filter hurts my head. Also, a good deal of your logic seems questionable, but I am not sure if that makes you scum yet. Some examples: + Show Spoiler +Palmar creates information spam, useless stuff and usefull stuff. I don't see how that observation by me makes me his buddy? I've played games with Palmar outside of the TL context and he is known for his textwalling and informationgathering skills, no matter what side he is on. Information and interaction is good for our town. Unless Palmar plays very differently outside of TL, I don't see how this can be true. Looking into Palmar his filter, he and Wiggles go off on some sort of duet where they distance eachother and vote for eachother.
Then they both switch and nothing is said of it and right before Palmar flips, he lists Wiggles as town. Where as before in his filter, nowhere does it come forward that he has really changed his mind or that Wiggles has him convinced that he is town. Seeing as Palmar flipped scum, im thinking MrWiggles might be one of his demonic dancing partners.
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In conclusion, these two were giving eachother nothing but hate right up until ~7:30 on the 8th of januari. Looks like a planned and organised move to move the votes of eachother after they created some distance of eachother on day1.
This logic is flimsy at best. He said he would claim. He didnt say he would claim VT like the states in his last post i quoted here. Wonder if that's semantics or a slip that he said he would claim VT against his scumbuddies and then thought he claimed it in here aswell. ...seriously? If he said he would claim, and he is a vt, then "I will claim" and "I will claim vt" are equivalent. Also, how could someone say they are going to claim VT later without having claimed... "Guys, I'm going to claim floridian later, but not yet!" His statement here has no logical thought in it whatsoever. You only have to fear the lynch if you are an angel..... (this quote was said in the context of him/layabout pressuring me) What the fuck? Why wouldn't demons or towns fear being lynched? In short, lynching Risk but hammering RoL is second best option. Syllo doesn't seem to agree on this, why i don't know. Unlike RoL(aka the guy who doesn't post) risk.nuke is still producing reactions and information in the progress, so RoL is a good option in my book. Hence i vote for him at this point as lynchtarget. No, i say Risk is my number one case.
If we can lynch him today, i will vote. Calls Risk his strongest case, then votes for RoL instead...then seems to imply risk.nuke is producing useful information while RoL is not...then reiterates that Risk is his best case. What? Also, why did you say this: Show nested quote +As you choose to ignore my post and after reading your responses, you are forcing me to vote for your lynch HoD. And then never vote for me? Geez that post came out longer than I expected. Ending with a vote on Tyrran, of course. ##Vote: Tyrran I was ok with it over a no-lynch, but I clearly stated I wanted neither Risk nor RoL lynched. And you know as well as I do that pushing someone else to be lynched is a way to defend someone. Cwave and Spaackle were two others I would have preferred over Risk. Bluelightz I wanted to hear some more on (and still do), but was favoring him over Risk as well, although only slightly.
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And yes, he was completely disinterested in the lynch on day 2. That seemed particularly damning; I even had to ask him 3 times until I got his opinion on Tyrran out of him and even then the answer was
I don't think I'm willing to lynch him just yet. But that could change, I'm not going to say I can't be talked into lynching him so he can just lurk the entire day safely.
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Anyway, don't take this to mean you I consider you a good lynch based on your actual posting. I think you've sufficiently explained why you disliked the lynch and I mostly agree with what you've said about other players. I'm merely questioning you due to the fact no townies dies on night 1 and we were blocked.
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On January 12 2012 04:49 syllogism wrote:
None of those posts demonstrate the things you were talking about and aggression against the person who is pushing to lynch you isn't particularly a townie trait. He didn't sound like a vt who was about to be lynched while town was still in a good position. That day one "phew I escaped a lynch" post sounded forced or at best null. He didn't make your top 5 most likely to be scum? You said you would vote for him over RoL at least. Who were your top 5 reads over risk and why didn't you talk about them?
How could phew I escaped the lynch sound forced? Every alignment would be relieved to escape the lynch. Hell, when a townie gets lynched instead of you, the only alignment that might not actually be relieved by that result would be another townie. If it sounded forced then it should be townie at best, null at worst. -_-
And the first quote I posted is clearly him calling two people red, and you and wiggles town. I don't see how that doesn't show confidence. Third one his agreement with you that Palmar is scum is also pretty clear. For the fourth one, if you are town and someone is tunneling you and getting you mislynched, that kind of response is quite common and you know it.
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On January 12 2012 04:56 syllogism wrote:And yes, he was completely disinterested in the lynch on day 2. That seemed particularly damning; I even had to ask him 3 times until I got his opinion on Tyrran out of him and even then the answer was Show nested quote +I don't think I'm willing to lynch him just yet. But that could change, I'm not going to say I can't be talked into lynching him so he can just lurk the entire day safely.
That Risk wrote that made him less suspicious in my book then Tyrrans "Yes risk is scum lets lynch him" post. Tyrran just wanted another one to be lynched while risk actually took a stance. A stance that was also contradicting to the generel feeling in the thread. That is to me more townie then what Tyrran did.
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On January 12 2012 05:06 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 04:56 syllogism wrote:And yes, he was completely disinterested in the lynch on day 2. That seemed particularly damning; I even had to ask him 3 times until I got his opinion on Tyrran out of him and even then the answer was I don't think I'm willing to lynch him just yet. But that could change, I'm not going to say I can't be talked into lynching him so he can just lurk the entire day safely. That Risk wrote that made him less suspicious in my book then Tyrrans "Yes risk is scum lets lynch him" post. Tyrran just wanted another one to be lynched while risk actually took a stance. A stance that was also contradicting to the generel feeling in the thread. That is to me more townie then what Tyrran did.
It came very late, basically when risk was already doomed and only after he had waffled quite a bit. I suppose the one thing that might have allowed me to get away from the lynch was assuming that no scum mates would play that poorly.
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So I come back from work/gym , and we have allready lynched risk.nuke. It would have been the case anyway since i intended to vote for him anyway, but its kinda dumb to cut on the discussion time. Well, time to move on and read some more filters.
@Jackal58 : Why " lets see if there is a reason " . Hammering risk.nuke will not tell you anything about Dirkzor. Did you learn anything. Also, why do you excuse yourself before he even flips ? Either you think he is scummy and vote for him or you explain why he isnt scummy. But dont vote for him for no reason.
On January 12 2012 02:16 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 02:10 layabout wrote:On January 12 2012 02:08 Jackal58 wrote:On January 12 2012 01:25 syllogism wrote:
Because he was going to be lynched anyway and it appears that the night is accordingly longer? Considering that I personally would have liked to hammer yesterday, I wouldn't read too much into that. Jackal's tone however seems off though. Specifically his random apology. Did he apologize to erandorr yesterday? No. Does he ever apologize when lynching someone? I doubt it. Ya I believe I have apologized for being impulsive before. And wrong. And no I didn't apologize to Erandorr because Erandorr was max derp. If it makes you feel better next time I vote for somebody I'll post DIE MOTHERFUCKER along with it. Why did risk.nuke deserve an apology from you? For my impulsiveness. I had no intentions of voting for him until I saw Diz's post voting for Tyrran.
Why is dirkzor voting for me a sign that it is time to kill risk ? Also, please explain to me why you think so hard that dizkor is
scum. Yes you where rigth about Palmar, but your play makes me think your an angel.
@Dizkor : People makes a case of me being inactive and not interested and you see me scum while refering to a post where i say who i think we should lynch. That makes a lot of sense.
Time to defend myself too, my comment in bold.
On January 11 2012 15:51 Spaackle wrote:So, after reading through Tyrran's thread, he's starring to look pretty scummy to me. He's posted much less than most others in this game, and his posts are long and full of fluff. He seems to spend a lot of time trying to tell other players how to play when he could be giving analysis or answering questions. He also contradicts himself a few times. Posts that really stand out to me: + Show Spoiler +What makes you think that angels will want to target the blues ? They are pretty much immune to blues, appart from the seer which will be desintegrated by the Angel of Death if he ever claim ( or i guess you could banish him, but then he would be pretty useless). So angel will just randomly shoot into townies, who knows, they migth even get a lucky shot on a demon, they migth also kill townies with dark power if they are not banished.
Secondly you suppose that Demons are going to want to use their banish defensively. If they want to do this, then Demons will just banish the Demon Hunter ( which will NEVER EVER be targeted by angels, because he basically works for them). If they have corrupted someone, they can also banish the sage, and just enjoy they extra vote ! They are not going to banish someone in order to 'protect' him.
Your plan gives HUGE information to both scum faction, and town actually gains very little from it. I dont like it. I think it favors Demons way too much ( because they can protect themself way more easely using their power knowing who the blues are), it also helps angels a bit ( they can kill the seer, they do not risk killing the demon hunter by mistake). But town is definitively the big loser in your plan. And Okay, i misread and missed the color only claim part. My bad, gotta go back some new googles.
Your plan is therefore much better than i initially thougth. I still have an issue with how you are going to deal with corruption. Angels are not the only one that need to prevent a voting block from forming, we need to prevent it too. On one hand you say that corrupted town should claim, but on the other hand you also advise multiple claim. What does town gain form multiple corruption claim ? While i agree that this migth confuse scum, If the angels are in doubt on how to get rid of corrupted townies, how are we going to know how to deal with it ? These posts are a glaring contradictions to each other. Tyrran points out several large flaws in RoL's plan. However, when RoL clears up the color claim issue, suddenly these flaws aren't so bad anymore. If you read correctly, nearly all my critisism where based on the fact that agel and demons would know the rolme of each blue. If they only claim blue and do not tell their role, my previous critisism do not hold anymoreTo me this represents a bit of wishy-washiness on Tyrran's part. He's very opposed to RoL's plan one minute, then thinks it's not too bad the next. Because i misunderstood it the first time There's Also this bit: Show nested quote +Angels are not the only one that need to prevent a voting block from forming, we need to prevent it too. By we, does Tyrran mean town? Or is there some special we only him and RoL know about? Yes i meant town. What else would make sense ?This post caught my eye too: Show nested quote +Well I dont see how this could have gone better :D. One demon dead ( GJ DemonHunter or Angel Acolyte, whoever got him) and no unrevealed death. Perfect N1 for town. Here are some initial thought about what happened N1 :
On January 09 2012 12:14 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I agree that it was most likely Palmar that sent me to purgatory, as I can't see any town player choosing to protect me over syllo, and I can't see town trying to use it for the roleblock on me instead of protecting someone. What I am more confused about is why he would do that.
Agreed. Syllo was one of the most valuable town assets day 1, channeler sending him to purgatory was the best and obvious move. Palmar maybe thougth you were AoD, and/or DemonHunter. He also maybe tried to protect you.
The fact that there were no ???? flip leaves us with 4 probability:
AoD targeted Syllo. This is unlikely. It was clear in the thread that the banish was going to be used defensively, and Syllogism was one of the most obvious target. I' not sure why angels would target him other than them being bad.
AoD targeted HarbingerOfDoom. This is a possibility. I'm not sure why they would choose him over BH, Wiggles, layabout tho
Syllo is the AoD. This is unlikely, he has been very active for town during day 1. Yet, we cannot ignore this possibility. I dont want him lynched today, but if he is banished again N2, and once again the AoD do not kill, then we will have to consider him as a lynch.
HoD is the AoD. This is a possibility too, but i'm not sure about it. I'll try to find some time to read his filter today.
Questions to discuss day 2 :
What do you guys think of Syllo and HoD ? Are they summy too you. Do you think they were liekly target for the AoD?
With no ???? flip, RoL plan could still be put into motion. What do you think about it? this is one of theposts that I really think paints Tyrran as a scum. He starts by congratulating the DH for the kill, then starts listing possibilities. His possibilities state what could have happened, but Tyrran doesnt really ever state what he thinks happened. Just "well maybe this or that." This noncommittal post also really highlights just how wishy-washy Tyrran has been this whole game. First of all, i did say day one taht i would give my thougth on the nigth actions, so I posted them. You say I remain vague, but with at the time, i dont see how i could commit on either HoD or Syllo. And i still say what i think : Either HoD is AoD or was the target, other options are unlikely. Yes its still non commital, but I still do say what i think happened.Tyrran, wha do you have to say for yourself?
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On January 12 2012 05:06 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 04:56 syllogism wrote:And yes, he was completely disinterested in the lynch on day 2. That seemed particularly damning; I even had to ask him 3 times until I got his opinion on Tyrran out of him and even then the answer was I don't think I'm willing to lynch him just yet. But that could change, I'm not going to say I can't be talked into lynching him so he can just lurk the entire day safely. That Risk wrote that made him less suspicious in my book then Tyrrans "Yes risk is scum lets lynch him" post. Tyrran just wanted another one to be lynched while risk actually took a stance. A stance that was also contradicting to the generel feeling in the thread. That is to me more townie then what Tyrran did.
Also i gave specific reasons of why i found risk scummy when syllo asked me. Its not like I jumped on a random wagon.
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Tyrran post a case on someone you would like to be lynched tomorrow and it can't be Jackal and it can't be copy/pasted material like everything else you've said so far.
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Fine with me, expect a full case during the first 24 hours of day3.
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No, I meant during the night. That is to say on Thursday as it's relatively late in France.
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On January 12 2012 05:48 Tyrran wrote:
Fine with me, expect a full case during the first 24 hours of day3.
Honestly you should post it now just in case you get shot. Unless you're an angel and know you have nothing to worry about.
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I hate night.
I will not post much post tomorrow because of IRL stuff.
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On January 12 2012 05:51 syllogism wrote:
No, I meant during the night. That is to say on Thursday as it's relatively late in France.
My bad, I thougth nigth would end thursday morning. Sure, i'll post during night then.
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My thoughts on risk.
On January 11 2012 08:16 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 08:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
RoL, who do you want to lynch, why? I'd assume risk.nuke since his vote is on him. I'm leaving my vote on diz for the moment because he is apparently not going to get hammered anytime soon. Also because he's scum. We have 5 scum left. More than enough to kill either risk or RoL atm. As that hasn't happened yet it's possible we have 1 from each team hanging there. I'm leaving for the evening so please refrain from doing anything stupid for the next couple of hours. Like a massive vote switch. Unless you all want to switch to diz cause like he is scum and all.
And then I see this:
On January 11 2012 23:06 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 21:30 Cwave wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Vote count for the Day 2 Lynch.
With 16 alive, 9 votes are required to lynch.
Current votes:
risk.nuke (7): Bluelightz, Refallen, -Bluelightz, syllogism, Bluelightz, Zephirdd, RebirthOfLeGenD, Grackaroni, Blazinghand
RebirthOfLeGenD (2): Blazinghand, Mr. Wiggles, Zephirdd, Spaackle, Cwave, -Zephirdd, -Spaackle, -Blazinghand
Tyrran (1): HarbingerOfDoom
Dirkzor (1): Jackal58
Cwave (0): Dirkzor, -Dirkzor
The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 12:44:13 from now.)Last edit: 2012-01-11 21:15:47
Dirkzor
layabout
TyrranLayabout made it clear he wants to vote on Risk, how about Dirkzor/Tyrran? Who is your best lynch target as of today? You stopped reading the thread? Maybe go re-read... Seems like i forgot to vote when i last posted. ##Vote tyrran I will come back before deadline and hammer Risk if needed but I still feel that Tyrran is a better lynch.
Dirkzor is scum. He didn't want to pull the trigger so I did. I was hoping he didn't do it because risk was his scum buddy.
And pardon me for saying sorry. I'm not the douchebag type that calls others morons and assholes and idiots that so many here have become. But if you feel that's necessary to prove I'm town pull your heads out of your collective asses and quit being morons you freaking idiots. Happy?
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Jackal, perhaps if we knew why you think Dirkzor is scum it would allow us to evaluate the decision to lynch a risk based upon the fact that dirkzor was reluctant to end the day early to kill him and that you hoped they were scum together.
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On January 12 2012 09:07 layabout wrote:
Jackal, perhaps if we knew why you think Dirkzor is scum it would allow us to evaluate the decision to lynch a risk based upon the fact that dirkzor was reluctant to end the day early to kill him and that you hoped they were scum together.
Do you read the thread?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13063175
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