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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On January 12 2012 10:13 Jackal58 wrote: Nobody else thought Palmar was scum either. Actually, The Demon Hunter or the Acolyte did. And me, during the night(if you check my filter, you can find it). And a few people who voted Palmar during day1(Mr Wiggles comes to mind). Don't make generalizations plz | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
I would like to hear a couple scum reads from each of you, along with brief explanations. @Jackal Zbot can count votes from a thread, not sure why Zona chose to use PM's for voting for this game (maybe because of the corrupted town deal?), but so be it. That thing is still fucking cool. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On January 12 2012 12:05 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @Jackal Zbot can count votes from a thread, not sure why Zona chose to use PM's for voting for this game (maybe because of the corrupted town deal?), but so be it. That thing is still fucking cool. Zbot counts posts via pm because a demon typing "##force vote risk.nuke: blazinghand" or something into the thread would be uh, pretty obvious. This is why we post in the thread any time we vote. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
RoL all your posts have been about the dumb plan of yours in one way or another. Thanks for joining the game if you are town. No the fact you are busy does not excuse you at all. You'll have another stretch of 24 hours of inactivity soon. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On January 12 2012 05:25 Tyrran wrote: @Dizkor : People makes a case of me being inactive and not interested and you see me scum while refering to a post where i say who i think we should lynch. That makes a lot of sense. The only time you have taken a difinitive stance on anybody was when you voted on Erandorr, and even then it was a mishmash of thought on 3 different people. The fact that the vote ended on Erandorr seemed random. All other posts you have made on people have ended with no conclusion and a lot of questions. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On an unrelated note, if anyone likes medieval art and lives around NYC, fort tryson has a pretty cool renaissance collection that I checked out today. It's called The Cloisters and going to it gives you admittance to MET as well during the same day. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Refallen
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
I'm going to add something else about the setup that everyone should have realized: Demons wins by corrupting town and lynching angels, Angels win by killing everyone. This means that each time a VT is lynched, it is a failure for demons as well, not only for town. They lose a potential corrupt target, and more importantly they failed to prevent angels from getting closer of winning. Angels on the other hand do not care. Sure they would have prefered to get a demon or blue, but they still have chances to get them with slay and stalk. So my conclusion here is while it is important to properly scumhunt as Demon, Angels can just tunnel someone and be fine with it. If they get their target lynched : best case they killed a blue/demon, worst case a townie, but they are still one step closer to victory. Im not going to focus on Jackal, but the same holds for him : HoD and Jackal have done nothing but tunnelling this game. HoD on me, Jackal on Palmar then Dirzkor. Not only that, but they had NO INTEREST at all about the player that was getting lyched. Here are some example : Day 1 : main Target are risk/palmar/Erandorr On January 07 2012 07:47 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Well, it appears as though xsksc is no longer playing this game, as his last post was: January 04 2012 23:24. I don't like lynching lurkers, but from what I know of Erandorr, his lurking makes him likely to be scum, and I do like lynching scum. Barring him showing an actual commitment to playing, I would be fine with lynching him. On risk.nuke, his playstyle seems to vary a good deal between games, so I am not sold on him being scum yet and would certainly like to hear a bit more from him before deciding whether or not I think he is worth a lynch. Tyrran Tyrran's play seems very different from his play in steamship where he was town. He is being much less aggressive so far, and usually people are more aggressive as town than they are as scum. I think he would make a fine lynch for the day. My only qualm with lynching him is that he hasn't interacted with other players much so far, so his flip will be less revealing, but I like our odds of hitting scum here. My vote will be on him for now. His steamship filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=57176 His filter so far this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176 ##Vote: Tyrran Yup, lynch are fine. TUNNEL TYRRAN. Day 2 : Its obvious lycnh are going to be risk or RoL On January 11 2012 14:02 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Anyway, I got the chance to spend some time today doing a bunch of rereading, and after doing so I will not be voting for RoL nor Risk today. Maybe I'm being dense, but I really don't see them as being leading candidates for flipping scum. If I end up having to choose between the two to avoid a no lynch, I favor lynching Risk over RoL, but I'd prefer to lynch neither. [...] Geez that post came out longer than I expected. Ending with a vote on Tyrran, of course. ##Vote: Tyrran Every day i'm tunnelling... Secondly, his post are full of contradiction, which are for me one of the biggest scumtell. On January 07 2012 07:47 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Well, it appears as though xsksc is no longer playing this game, as his last post was: January 04 2012 23:24. I don't like lynching lurkers, but from what I know of Erandorr, his lurking makes him likely to be scum, and I do like lynching scum. Barring him showing an actual commitment to playing, I would be fine with lynching him. On risk.nuke, his playstyle seems to vary a good deal between games, so I am not sold on him being scum yet and would certainly like to hear a bit more from him before deciding whether or not I think he is worth a lynch. Tyrran Tyrran's play seems very different from his play in steamship where he was town. He is being much less aggressive so far, and usually people are more aggressive as town than they are as scum. I think he would make a fine lynch for the day. My only qualm with lynching him is that he hasn't interacted with other players much so far, so his flip will be less revealing, but I like our odds of hitting scum here. My vote will be on him for now. His steamship filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=57176 His filter so far this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176 ##Vote: Tyrran On January 09 2012 05:03 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: ...because I was leaning scum on Erandorr and was not on Risk. I didn't comment more on it because I was busy yesterday as I had to get shit ready for my girlfriend's birthday party/then was at it. For those wondering why I had a null read on risk, here is what Syllo said about him earlier this game: Here is me asking about him in Steamship: Notice any similarities? Fun fact, he was town in steamship. So he tunnels me based on a 1-game Meta, but still admits that meta lynch are unreliable. Wut ? On January 08 2012 06:41 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Unfortunately I will not be around for the lynch deadline. As stated previously, I am also fine with an Erandorr lynch, so I will be switching my vote to him now as I don't want a no-lynch to occur. Sorry, no birthday sympathy from me. He has shown no commitment to this game, and it is my understanding that this makes him very likely to be scum. Of course he doesnt want a no-lynch to occurs, that's pretty mach the only bad outcome for angels at the end of day 1. Secondly, notice the "it is my understanding". He was the one to call for a Erandorr lynch based on meta. Yet this makes him look like he wasnt. Thirdly : His reaction after Nigth one is strange, and deceptive. I think you all remember on how his being the AoD is a possibility. Well his reaction after On January 09 2012 10:42 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: I was sent to purgatory? What in the fuck? Also, no unrevealed flip? So either syllo = angel of death (seems unlikely to me, but possible) or angel of death targeted him or me (seems much more likely, and probably him if I had to bet). Why does being sent to purgatory bother him? I mean, any regular townie would have been happy to be sent to purgatory as it makes you immune to any nigth actions. So this post alone makes me think that HoD is at least a blue, more likely and angel. On January 10 2012 03:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Syllo, you're pretty smart, so please tell me why on earth you think Palmar would banish me to purgatory if he thought I was an angel? Let's look at the scenarios: 1) I am the Angelic Observer - sending me to purgatory does nothing for the demons. 2) I am the Acolyte - unless I for some reason decide to go after a demon instead of a blue, does nothing for the demons. If I do go after blues, doing this hurts the demons. 3) I am the Angel of Death - I would never hit Palmar when I could get town to use up a lynch on him as lynching is the only anti-angel kp. Also leading a scum lynch can get some town cred. So one demon (Palmar) is safe. Another demon can be twisted, so now 2 are safe. Note, so far this also applies to the acolyte even if the acolyte is targeting a demon. So now blocking the angel of death is only useful if the third demon is also a likely target for a scum night kill. I don't see how any of those are a better choice than targeting someone you think is a blue, especially if you have no idea which I am and are taking the 1/3 chance of a remotely useful roleblock. As I stated, I think it is much more likely he thought I was blue than an angel. Okay, this post is just full of bullshit. I can see plenty of reason for demon to roleblock angels. His post focus on why demons would try to save palmar. The goal of demons is not only to save themself, they also have to prevent angels to win. Banishing them is a good move in this regard as they have a high chance of reducing their KP ( as I stated before, any angel hit, be it town or demon,is actually bad for demon). Secondly you once again makes it sound like angels do not want to target demons. This is plain wrong. They want to get rid of demons. Demons are at least as dangerous for angels than blues. Channeler and courrier have the same ability to RB them, and twister is an anti angel doctor. On the other hand, going for blue gives the risk of killing the demon hunter which is basically working for them early game. You also make it look like angels would not target palmar because he could be lynched day 2. I do not agree. If they have a strong demon read on someone, i think angels would go for it. For once because they cannot be sure that he will be lynched next day ( it could very well have been risk or RoL over palmar again), and secondly because they was no corrupted town yet, finding a blue would be difficult. So because his plays correspond perfectly on how I think angels would play, because he contradict himself, and because he keeps telling shit about angel strategy, I think he is an angel himself. And I think we shoud lynch him tomorrow. Anyway, my lunch break was a bit longer that it should have been, will be back later tonigth. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On December 28 2011 15:39 Zona wrote: Game Rules: ... - If you sign up to play in the game, you are making a commitment to play out the game, which may take up to a month or two to complete. If you know in advance that you will be away for certain periods of time, let the host know well in advance. If you are playing in this game, you may not begin playing in another game without the host's explicit permission. (If you believe you can handle an additional game, just go ahead and ask for permission.) | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1 day, 1:17:00 between posts at 2012-01-05 07:42:00 and 2012-01-06 08:59:00 1 day, 0:45:00 between posts at 2012-01-08 09:56:00 and 2012-01-09 10:41:00 last posted 2012-01-11 08:05:00 (1 day, 15:25:44 ago) | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
You mention Jackal at some point in your filter, then Risk and RoL. What's your take on Jackal? | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On January 12 2012 19:32 Bluelightz wrote: I'm back now! (no post in between) On January 13 2012 00:42 Bluelightz wrote: I'm gonna sleep now guys gonna make a case on someone when i get back from school Wat? We don't need to know when you are here or not. We need you to contribute when you are here. | ||
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