EPTHoD, I might be alittle biased to the fact that this is one of the few people who have defended me. On the other hand if he we keep going by the assumption that the demons put him in purgatory which I absolutely think is what happend the motive could either have been to protect one of their own or framing someone else to make it look like they were. There are a few things that makes HoD a viable lynch. There is a chance he is the AoD, and there is a chance he is a demon. I don't like how he speculates alot about scum actions. In fairness it makes sense that he should do this more then otherssince he was singled out by scumactions but I still think a scum is inclined to do so.
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
HoD, I might be alittle biased to the fact that this is one of the few people who have defended me. On the other hand if he we keep going by the assumption that the demons put him in purgatory which I absolutely think is what happend the motive could either have been to protect one of their own or framing someone else to make it look like they were. There are a few things that makes HoD a viable lynch. There is a chance he is the AoD, and there is a chance he is a demon. I don't like how he speculates alot about scum actions. In fairness it makes sense that he should do this more then otherssince he was singled out by scumactions but I still think a scum is inclined to do so. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
So syllogism I don't like having meta thrown in my face. First of all nobody likes having meta thrown in thier face because it's not really something you can defend yourself against. But there are different sorts of meta. There are meta of people who have played alot of games who's meta can be very clear (erandorr). Then there is meta of people who have played games as both mafia and town. Then there is meta against me who have only played as town. I mean I've had people calling me out on meta in all of my games exept 1 or 2 and I've always been town including this time so I'm getting a bit sick of it. Lynch risk and once he flips angel, lynch tyrran | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On January 10 2012 21:14 Cwave wrote: Is there any other form of contribution other then PRO-town? Yes there is. And this is what you should be looking for when scumhunting. It includes discusssing topics that doesnt really matter , it includes randomly calling people ou without putting pressure on them, it includes Bandwagoning wihtout any good justifications. It includes calling people stupid for not blindly beleiving you. It includes basically every single post that doesnt make us one step closer of lynching a scum. I guess that what i call 'pro-town contribution' you call simply ' contribution ' but I beleive scum also contributes to the thread, only not in a way that helps town. You also did not answer Syllo's question : What do you mean by 'lynching risk.nuke but hammering Rol is the best option ' ? Do you want to lynch RoL or Risk ? | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 10 2012 18:24 syllogism wrote: Cwave I read that post several times and I've no idea what you are saying. If you are town you need to seriously re-evaluate your play. Specifically I would like to see you rephrase or explain what you said here Are you saying that you want to lynch risk? Why are you voting for RoL then? We've almost 40 hours of the day left, so if you truly consider risk the better lynch, you aren't making any sense. I want to lynch both. Unlike RoL(aka the guy who doesn't post) risk.nuke is still producing reactions and information in the progress, so RoL is a good option in my book. Hence i vote for him at this point as lynchtarget. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 10 2012 21:50 Tyrran wrote: Yes there is. And this is what you should be looking for when scumhunting. It includes discusssing topics that doesnt really matter , it includes randomly calling people ou without putting pressure on them, it includes Bandwagoning wihtout any good justifications. It includes calling people stupid for not blindly beleiving you. It includes basically every single post that doesnt make us one step closer of lynching a scum. I guess that what i call 'pro-town contribution' you call simply ' contribution ' but I beleive scum also contributes to the thread, only not in a way that helps town. You also did not answer Syllo's question : What do you mean by 'lynching risk.nuke but hammering Rol is the best option ' ? Do you want to lynch RoL or Risk ? Why i ask is because i find it a given you post protown stuff as ... town. To articulate it and stress it that you are gonna be pro-town leads me to believe you are forcing yourself to do pro-town stuff. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 10 2012 21:54 Cwave wrote: I want to lynch both. Unlike RoL(aka the guy who doesn't post) risk.nuke is still producing reactions and information in the progress, so RoL is a good option in my book. Hence i vote for him at this point as lynchtarget. No, you said RoL is the second best option and implied that risk is your #1 option. Are you saying you misspoke then? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On January 10 2012 21:39 syllogism wrote: Risk I've asked you twice to give me your opinion on Tyrran. You just have to convince me that he is a better lynch than you and perhaps I will push for his lynch instead! Why aren't you cooperating? You haven't posted any content since people became suspicious of you. Cwave: I asked you a question. You are clearly reading the thread but apparently refusing to answer. Please do. Tyrran: Oh look, you find him scummy but hope a better lynch magically materializes so you don't have to vote for him. You certainly aren't scum hunting. Let me guess, you would rather lynch RoL? Actually, no I dont. Part of the reason is that i havent had time yet to analyze deeply the case against him . My scum reads for now are Cwave -I explained why-, Jackal and risk. I also want to read the filter of other lurkers such as Grackaroni and Zephird. I cant really spend enough time building a case from work, so i'll do it later from home. Also I stated Day 1 that I felt it wasnt a good idea to throw votes early. So 'ill wait for then last 24 hours and vote on the case that makes the most sense to me. It migth very well be risk.nuke. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Jackal 58 for being overly agressive on pamar with no real case behind it, and Palmar because i found your case solid. Now that Palmar flipped demon, you still think he is a good lynch today? Sorry, there is no way you can honestly believe that. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
If we can lynch him today, i will vote. However, given the certain situation, RoL is ALSO a very good option to lynch. One does not exclude the other and i don't feel we are misslynching if we prefer Risk over RoL or vice versa. What in the thread did i miss that makes RoL not a good lynch atm? (yes risk is a good lynch and i want him hang aswell). | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 10 2012 22:22 Cwave wrote: No, i say Risk is my number one case. If we can lynch him today, i will vote. However, given the certain situation, RoL is ALSO a very good option to lynch. One does not exclude the other and i don't feel we are misslynching if we prefer Risk over RoL or vice versa. What in the thread did i miss that makes RoL not a good lynch atm? (yes risk is a good lynch and i want him hang aswell). What you missed was that you think risk is your #1 case and you aren't voting for him. How does that make sense? It's pretty depressing that I have to explain this. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
It's depressing if people can't comprimise if anything. If i thought RoL wasn't a good lynch, i wouldn't vote. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 10 2012 22:31 Cwave wrote: Why?? I think it's utterly retarded if it ends up in a stallmate/no lynch cause people won't vote for their number 2 given the situation. It's depressing if people can't comprimise if anything. If i thought RoL wasn't a good lynch, i wouldn't vote. The way it works is we vote for who we think is the best lynch, push for the lynch and then if it looks like we can't get the one we would like lynched, we switch. There's 35 hours of the day left. You've absolutely no reason to believe your #1 target couldn't get lynched today, considering that he was almost lynched yesterday. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
Would be great if someone like RoL was actually playing so he could make a case. And btw Syllo, you still have been tainted by the purgatory and the apparent AoD missfire/blocked/etc. Untill that is cleared, we have to be weary of you and HoD. | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On January 10 2012 21:56 Cwave wrote: Why i ask is because i find it a given you post protown stuff as ... town. To articulate it and stress it that you are gonna be pro-town leads me to believe you are forcing yourself to do pro-town stuff. You should read Steamship Mafia Day 1. If townies only posted pro-town stuff, this game would be so much easier. On January 10 2012 22:10 syllogism wrote: Tyrran: is this the reason you find jackal scummy? Now that Palmar flipped demon, you still think he is a good lynch today? Sorry, there is no way you can honestly believe that. What I did not like on Jackal filter is that he hardly gave any reasoning for his hyper agression. He tunnelled on palmar, and did not even had the sligthtest reaction when MrWiggle made a solid case on Palmar. This is wy he looks scummy to me. It was better towards the end of day 2, and Palmar flipped scum, so i was about to let go on him, but then he does exactly the same thing on dirkzor day 2. Should you ask me if we should lynch him now, I'd answer no. Both Cwave and risk are more scummy. Yet I want to keep an eye on him. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote: Vote count for the Day 2 Lynch. With 16 alive, 9 votes are required to lynch. Current votes: RebirthOfLeGenD (5): Blazinghand, Mr. Wiggles, Zephirdd, Spaackle, Cwave risk.nuke (3): Dirkzor (1): Jackal58 Cwave (0): The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 1 day, 10:38:05 from now.) ^ because someone(layabout, I believe?) said it was a good idea to do it once in a while. syllogism wants risk.nuke dead badly. Which is a problem to me, because I trust him. I really don't want the XLVIII fiasco where a scum survived three days in a row until I finally died due to my DT claim, getting his alignment the night I died. However, if you take the assumption that syllo = Angel, it makes a whole lot of sense that he helped on the Palmar thing and that he is trying to defend RoL and trying to kill a possibly town risk.nuke. Risk's play and lack of answers(he has been asked multiple questions past few hours, and no response) doesn't help tho. I'd like to hear from RoL voters about switching to risk and leaving RoL for the next day. Cwave, Spaackle(you in special), Mr. Wiggles and Blazinghand. I'll go ahead and say that I'd like this, but I really want to see other players reactions on this before committing to it. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On January 10 2012 23:33 syllogism wrote: Zephirdd: you don't assume stupid things just because they are possible. Read my filter and tell me if it looks like scum play; it does not. I even suggested that the channeler should use its power to protect likely n1 targets, which would be ridiculously bad if I was the angel of death. Thus you should either conclude that they tried to hit me or HoD is the angel. The former likely implies that there was a reason for angels to want me dead, which implicates risk/tyrran. This means nothing, quite obviously if you were scum you would act like you played pro town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 10 2012 23:11 Tyrran wrote: You should read Steamship Mafia Day 1. If townies only posted pro-town stuff, this game would be so much easier. What I did not like on Jackal filter is that he hardly gave any reasoning for his hyper agression. He tunnelled on palmar, and did not even had the sligthtest reaction when MrWiggle made a solid case on Palmar. This is wy he looks scummy to me. It was better towards the end of day 2, and Palmar flipped scum, so i was about to let go on him, but then he does exactly the same thing on dirkzor day 2. Should you ask me if we should lynch him now, I'd answer no. Both Cwave and risk are more scummy. Yet I want to keep an eye on him. You'll get used to me. Palmar was obv scum. Nothing Wiggles said either expanded nor contradicted my belief that Palmar was scum. Dirkzor is also scum. It's also obvious to me why. I explained part of it day 1. His lack of interest or caring if he lynches town or scum that is evident from one of his only posts during this day cycle merely reinforces my beliefs. I assume you guys read the same drivel from the same people I do. I lack the ability and desire to write a thesis on everybody I see as scummy. I point it out and assume you guys are smart enough to see it too with out me interjecting 300 lines of rhetoric and hyperbola. | ||
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