Purgatory Mafia - Page 58

On January 10 2012 15:23 syllogism wrote:
No, I'm saying he is busy due to being busy (work/real life) and as we can only lynch one per day, we prioritize the better lynches. Townies suggest bad plans all the time and defend them to death.

On January 10 2012 15:30 syllogism wrote:
See this is why people call you WBG's smurf. You are like a wall. I've repeatedly said that him being worthless is suspicious but that doesn't mean that he is a better lynch than the other two. Who do you think is more likely to suggest and defend a plan that is clearly going to be controversial? Town or Scum?

On January 10 2012 15:28 Refallen wrote:
I'm saying you should take into consideration the wagon, and not only the case, like you said.

And you're missing syllo's point, risk is MORE LIKELY to flip scum than RoL, and thus, he is a BETTER lynch. If we had 5 lynches per day we could lynch anyone who looks suspicious, but with only one, we have to choose the one that has the highest probability of making a scum flip.

On January 10 2012 15:34 Refallen wrote:
Just like how Erandorr was the better lynch in day 1?

k.

On January 10 2012 15:37 syllogism wrote:
It depends on how the person who suggests the plan thinks it is going to be received. I doubt RoL thought a mass claim on day 1 plan was going to be well received. Scum do not want to suggest a plan that instantly makes them the center of unwanted attention. Further, I don't think it's quite that obvious that the plan is bad and I think he thought quite a bit about it, which suggests to me that he really does think it's a good idea. Regardless, as I can't reliably determine if he really believes the plan is good or not, I'm treating it as null. His activity and lack of scum hunting is not null, but again I'm not lynching him over risk/tyrran.

With no ???? flip, RoL plan could still be put into motion. What do you think about it?

On January 10 2012 15:38 Blazinghand wrote:


"his play was so scummy he couldn't possibly be scum"

and Syllo if I have to push this through without you I will

On January 10 2012 15:55 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:

It is not so scummy he couldn't be scum...it is the disregard for the personal consequences, which is often a townie trait. When you aren't guilty, you don't usually think too much about whether or not what you do will draw suspicion.

On January 10 2012 08:58 Tyrran wrote:
After Dirzkor mindless attack on Cwave ( Which was a fake ? What was going through your mind ?) I've started reading his filter more closely, and i dont quite like what I see there.

Cwave, while not particulary active, has been pushing cases left and rigth. Within his two page filter, you can find up to 8 scum accusation on 6 different people( Dirkzor , RoL, Erandorr, risk.nuke, Jackal58, MrWiggle). Now, i dont have anything against trying to find scum, but the issue is that while seeming to actively look for scum, Cwave has never actually tried to get someone lynched !

Apart for risk.nuke ( that you accused once in day one, then again in day 2), Cwave never put pressure on anyone, never asked other to investigate further on his town read. Instead, we find post like this :







Notice how he never ask : "what do you think about XXX, but instead remains as vague as possible ?" He his never saying "We should lynch XXX today". Notice the difference between this and MrWiggle pushing for Palmar, Syllo pushing for Erandorr, or even HoD pushing against me.

More recently, when he is asked who he thinks we should lynch.



Dirkzor is not set in stone. Maybe we should not lynch him despite him being scummy, because he migth flip town.
Risk.nuke is on his list, but not for the two reason he attacked him prior to that. Strange for someone who claims to hold an excel file with his thougths
Syllo is suspicious, but still is not a lynch target.
Notice how he did not answer the question.

Also some of his cases have very few content in them. I'm specifically thinking about his case

+ Show Spoiler [ Case against MrWiggle] +

Here we have a typical example of someone trying to look helpful by creating a case with no content at all. he makes it look like very serious using precise quotes and stuff, but the content behind it is basically none. MrWiggle switched target because it was obvious palmar wasnt be lynched and he wanted to avoid a no-lynch. That is a pro-town move, why would you call him out on it ?

Cwave, you are someone who seems towns, but in reality you did not help much at all until now. While you migth be a timid town, I also think it is likely you are scum player. Please answer this : Is there anyone you really think is scum ? Someone you would be fine pushing for lynch ? Who ? Why ? You seem to spend a lot of time analysing people. Please prove us that you are town by trying to get scummy people lynched.

On January 04 2012 17:59 Refallen wrote:
Not to mention that while angels CAN kill demons, it hardly seems optimal for them. With 11 town and only 3 of each faction, for angels to kill off demons would just mean that town will have an easier time. I think that we can consider the scenario of angel and demon killing each other therfore, highly improbable.

On January 07 2012 09:12 Tyrran wrote:


If you read steamship mafia, you'll notice i wasnt really active before I had some hard fact to analyse ( ie kenpachi lynch). I'm not good at analysing Meta, because its only my second game here. Half the accusation here are made on meta. I'm looking for contradictions, votes, something i can work on. I dont like making case for the sake on making one. I'll make a case after day 1, when i'll have more info to work with.

On January 07 2012 21:50 Tyrran wrote:

Therefore, ##Vote : Errandor