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I'm in no other games and I'll have plenty of time to devote to this game until well into next year. | ||
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Who, if anybody, is replacing Meapak_Ziphh and RebirthOfLeGenD? | ||
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##Vote VisceraEyes @bumatlarge I have a hard time making sense of this post. First, I think it is badly worded. Next, what the hell are "responsibility points"? Why did you get some for proposing RNG while VisceraEyes got some for saying that he doesn't understand the point of RNG? Why are you blindly setup speculating about a Captain Obvious role, and what would he have to do with these responsibility points? What are responsibility points used for? How much is "a tiny bit" compared to "very little"? I also don't get this post. What did you trigger? Is there ever any point in being too anything? Are you Captain Tautology? How did you try to start discussion? | ||
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I think you have a point about how he has to do something entirely different if he has any aspirations of getting hit by scum night1. I think your points about the RNG question, the SK, and the misunderstandings are weak. | ||
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Why are you voting Palmar and not Foolishness? Foolishness has provided even less reason to vote for L than Palmar has. Palmar also lives in Iceland where it is 3AM right now, so he has a very valid excuse for not being around. I don't know exactly what timezone Foolishness lives in, but I think it's much more likely that he should be around! | ||
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Uh, that might have come out wrong, I don't really condone voting for either Foolishness or Palmar right now. So why are you voting for Foolishness? I don't get why you think L has contributed a ton. His first post was generic advice. His second post didn't follow this generic advice, instead he rambles on about RNG for ages, concluding that it is bad even though it has evidently spurred discussion. His third post, he concludes that LSB is either red or blue then just leaves it there. In the second part of his post he displays excellent logic I think, but then he kinda outs bumatlarge as blue. Why would a town aligned player ever give his blue reads like this? @LSB You want lynch between Liquid`Sheth, VisceraEyes and me? Can you list the vets who get to freeload day1 if they want to? | ||
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I think VisceraEyes needs to get off Palmar's back. Right now the town is in a state where I don't think we're likely to catch scum. A lot of people are lurking instead of trying to establish themselves as scum. I think VisceraEyes has a valid point that a lot of the veterans here play like Radfield plays, he likes to sit back and watch the show and then get his reads from unsuspecting scum who think they're doing all fine. We can't all do that though, for obvious reasons. I think what a scum would do in this situation is not post a lot. Scum is very happy with the current state of the town so they don't want to disturb it and the amount of lurkers make it easy for them to hide in there. This is why I don't think that lynching Palmar or VisceraEyes for that matter is a good idea, they're both townies trying to make the atmosphere better. One does it better than the other but that's besides the point. I think GMarshal can do a lot better, I have only played with him in one game but in that game he made outrageous posts like this one. This isn't a meta behavioral argument, this is an argument about how much GMarshal contributes when he finally signs up, and this is an argument about how skilled GMarshal really is, even though the case was wrong I think it took significant skill just to come up with it! I don't like this post: On December 22 2011 02:12 GMarshal wrote: No idea, haven't caught up with the thread, not if there are any real candidates to lynch though (or if I can peg any, really). I'm curious to see who jumped on my hydra wagon, too. The thing with policy lynches is they are good and dandy as an initial point of discussion, but they suck from an information perspective. Its always interesting to see who jumps on it though. Now, I need to eat food and then do work. He doesn't know if he'll continue pushing SamuelLJackson, even though it seems like it was actually just a plan to see who would jump on his hydra wagon. I don't think anybody jumped on it though, and it seems rather optimistic with such a plan in a game full of veterans like this. How would you rate that plan Mr. Wiggles? That said, I think there are better lynches than GMarshal today. I don't doubt that GMarshal is actually busy because he seems like a nice guy and nice guys don't lie. Just like Liquid`Sheth, he seems like a nice guy too so he wouldn't lie about a sinus infection keeping him away from mafia. I'm on a train and my internet goes out in 5 kilometers (screw you imperials) but I'll have more time when I get home, maybe someone can point out a couple of people I could look into? Preferably lurkers like GGQ. | ||
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That being said there's a ton of people on LSB right now so I think he's likely the best lynch. I'll be around until deadline reading up on the thread and then it's back to bed. | ||
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About the roles, town should never conclude anything from roles in a closed setup. I think this could very well be a point in this game, there's been some talk about roles and alignment and breadcrumbing and stuff like that lately, but that's purely speculation. What isn't speculation is that town should never conclude anything from roles in a closed setup. Because it's a closed setup. We can use roles to direct attention to people, but not to conclude that at least one of these guys has to be scum. I would much rather lynch BloodyC0bbler because it looks to me like he's just sitting back and enjoying the fireworks, I know that's not going to happen though. What do people think of these thoughts? Namely that the case on LSB is still weak, and that we shouldn't conclude anything from all these claims but only use them to exert pressure on LSB/GM? @VisceraEyes No but that was kinda 5 posts into the game, I was trying to prod you since you were all pissed at RNG. I think RNGs are alright because they prod and they spur discussion (look at half the discussion in this game has been about RNG, that sucks but that's because people didn't move on, and not because RNG is bad at starting discussion). My thoughts are up there, just F5'd before I posted. | ||
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On December 22 2011 13:37 Foolishness wrote: I don't know. What I do know is that LSB is being responsible, and GMarshal is not.
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On December 22 2011 13:38 wherebugsgo wrote: wow, this is ironic coming from you. What have you done all game? RNG VE? You have no room to talk when it comes to activity. Why are you assuming there are 3 scum, wiggles, when the total mafia number is listed at 4? Hey, I don't have to take that. I've been busy, but I've still been reasonably active, I've tried to contribute and I've tried to be transparent. There are a ton of people in this thread who have been less active than me, your case that no one bought into because it wasn't really that good doesn't make you the Emperor of Activityville. I'm up to date on the thread, I have a ton of notes and I have been around sporadically to comment on things, I didn't just post a single post and then left. | ||
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On December 23 2011 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote: What about my Traitor theory guys? Hey! Hey! What about my Traitor theory? Everyone's ignoring it! As I understand it, your traitor theory is that GMarshal is the traitor. I don't see why you think this. Only a lunatic would claim to be a vig who can only hit scum, when he's scum aligned. It could only get crazier if he also claimed that he is compulsive. | ||
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All that talk is pretty silly VisceraEyes, people shouldn't really have a public rigid opinion on this because if GMarshal is town then scum is more uncertain what to do if people don't say "If GMarshal doesn't do X before Y then Z". I think GMarshal knows what he has to do if he is town, and if he doesn't do this then he's going to be in big trouble no matter what opinion people might have right now, but anyway lets keep scum in the dark about just this. So, what do you think about Jackal58? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler His first post isn't very impressive. His second post has already been commented on. It appears to me that he is soft blue claiming in the very first paragraph, by saying that bumatlarge and Chezinu are making sense when they're talking about the setup (which I think they were?). He says it in a way that would make people think that he knows something about the setup too, but not in a very subtle way like he wants everybody to know. This looks like a soft blue claim to me but I have no idea why he is doing it at this point. Also in the first paragraph he says "Their posts illustrate what I am saying.", well dude, you haven't said a thing yet. That is your 7th sentence in this game. The rest of your post doesn't say anything that looks like it is remotely related to what bumatlarge and Chezinu might have been talking about, so this makes little sense to me. His next paragraphs says "everybody sucks, RNG sucks" which has already been commented on by other people, we were beyond talking about RNG at this point, why didn't he just move on if he doesn't want people to talk about RNG? He finishes his post by making a half assed accusation against Palmar for not contributing any original content. Pot kettle black. His third and latest post to date starts by pointing out something that Foolishness already pointed out. He then defends GMarshal for suggesting a policy lynch saying that "hydras ruin games" and "lets kill the hydra because he's a hydra" isn't terrible. This is odd to me because it is a terrible accusation that GMarshal came up with there, just because Protactinium or whatever ruined a game 100 years ago doesn't mean that policy lynching a hydra now is a good idea. It's like he's grasping for straws to defend GMarshal, I don't understand why because the case against GMarshal was decent and the pressure was not misplaced at all. Next paragraph he again goes for Palmar because Palmar pointed out that BloodyC0bbler was addressing something that wasn't relevant to the thread anyway, and by doing this BloodyC0bbler again talks about something that is not relevant to the thread anymore. We are past RNG here, talk about it post game, there was no need to comment and just because Palmar was apparently stupid in thinking that RNG is alright, BloodyC0bbler isn't adding anything to the thread here. It is statements like "Now, I only respond to these posts as he was tossing shit my way for my play.", he feel the need to justify that he's defending himself, dude why don't you just play better and put effort into something that isn't defending yourself? Then nobody will be on your back. In the end he concludes that Palmar is likely town. Then why the hell these first paragraphs? You are going for Palmar for over half of your post and then you say "Yea he's probably town because of that thing Foolishness said". Again, you are not adding anything to this thread, you are only trying to take stuff out of it. Only in the last two paragraphs does he actually do something that isn't counter attacking Palmar for his very accurate comment on BloodyC0bbler's posting. This is alright, and it's a very early committal vote on LSB who was acting weird, the only problem I have is that BloodyC0bbler says "So until he comes out with anything substantial to keep him alive im voting him.", but BloodyC0bbler never returns to the thread. It's like he's placed his vote and then he doesn't really care anymore. If he had been in the thread at any point I believe he would have commented on the whole claim and counter claim thing, that seems like something that might have shaken his belief in this lynch but he doesn't, he just disappears from the thread once he's placed his vote. Overall I also think BloodyC0bbler seems excessively hostile, throwing words like "shit" and "shite" and "asshattery" (which of course is also kinda funny) all over the place. I don't get this weird frustrated hostility, but I feel like it's the same I saw in Curu in Election mafia. I don't know how to interpret this and it's all up for discussion, but maybe BloodyC0bbler doesn't really like being scum, he wasn't like this at all in XLVII. I can't vote right now. Since VisceraEyes is around maybe you can comment on this? Foolishness is around too but I doubt I'll get anything out of him right now. | ||
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On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad? No idea, but I doubt his town play would be this bad. If he is town he'll improve, if not then I don't see why I should think that he's town. Who are you looking into right now? | ||
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I like GGQ's explanation of night actions. VisceraEyes bombed bumatlarge in Election Mafia on a somewhat flimsy reasonable, he's crazy like that. I think he shot GMarshal. I don't think mafia would shoot VisceraEyes on day1, which is why VisceraEyes shouldn't shoot on day1 if he's blue but again, he's crazy like that. I think GMarshal was roleblocked last night, because who else would mafia roleblock? If he was roleblocked and he survived there could have been massive chaos day2 and he's a claimed blue who said he'd shoot somebody in the face, scum knows that he isn't kidding around so he's absolutely their best target for roleblock. I think that Chezinu is lying about his roleblock, consequently making him mafia. What do you guys think about that? I'd post more about him but he's kinda hard to read you know. | ||
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First of all it gives you some town credit if the guy who was roleblocked, and if nobody claims roleblocked today we'd know tomorrow that one of the dead was roleblocked (if scum has a roleblocker). Second of all, if Chezinu was roleblocked then GMarshal wouldn't have been roleblocked and he would have shot someone. This would severely mess up our flip analysis if we think that GMarshal actually shot one of VisceraEyes/Jackal58/SamuelLJackson. I don't think he shot any of those, I think he shot RebirthOfLeGenD, because he said he would in his 14:00 KST post. So yea, lets kill Chezinu? What do you feel about that bumatlarge? ##Vote Chezinu I'm still not over BloodyC0bbler by the way, and I'd like wherebugsgo to show me why we should kill Foolishness. | ||
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On December 23 2011 18:56 wherebugsgo wrote: so in order for your version of events to be true, Chezinu has to be lying, or there must be two roleblockers. Which one is it? Is Chezinu lying, or are there two roleblockers? On December 23 2011 18:41 prplhz wrote: Hey guys I like GGQ's explanation of night actions. VisceraEyes bombed bumatlarge in Election Mafia on a somewhat flimsy reasonable, he's crazy like that. I think he shot GMarshal. I don't think mafia would shoot VisceraEyes on day1, which is why VisceraEyes shouldn't shoot on day1 if he's blue but again, he's crazy like that. I think GMarshal was roleblocked last night, because who else would mafia roleblock? If he was roleblocked and he survived there could have been massive chaos day2 and he's a claimed blue who said he'd shoot somebody in the face, scum knows that he isn't kidding around so he's absolutely their best target for roleblock. I think that Chezinu is lying about his roleblock, consequently making him mafia. What do you guys think about that? I'd post more about him but he's kinda hard to read you know. | ||
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On December 24 2011 01:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Read the game... If GM was roleblocked and hit that leaves 4 hits for the mafia/unclaimed, which is way too high. If GM was roleblocked he wouldn't of died because it would block both his hit and his suicide, not just the hit. The mafia know this assuming they are literate and since they thought he was going to hit a townie why would they roleblock GM since it would result in his death anyway? Hint: They wouldn't. I don't even know what to say to this anymore. A bit scummy? I was in PYP:Insane that Protactinium hosted who was part Ver as I understood it. That game had a role called dreamflower that worked kinda like the vigilantes we've seen so far in this game. I really wanted this role so I asked a lot of questions about it and dreamflower only died from hitting someone, if they actually flipped town. Combined with what LSB said, I am going to assume it works like that in this game too. Also, GMarshal told people about his hits at 14:00KST which would leave no room for scum to organize their actions based on what he said. Therefore he did not lie and therefore scum would only know who he was going to hit, too late to change their own actions. This means that GMarshal was roleblocked, or that his target was magically protected by a medic but the latter I find extremely unlikely. VisceraEyes voted GMarshal during the whole claim/counterclaim thing, because VisceraEyes thought it was weird that there was another role like his (LSB) but even weirder that there was a third role. I don't really think this is too weird. I don't think that VisceraEyes was killed by town because he was obvious townie (why aren't you all obvious townies?) and I don't think that VisceraEyes was killed by scum because I don't think scum considered him to be a huge threat. I think it is likely that VisceraEyes shot somebody because he's a crazy man who does stuff like that. Palmar was shot by chaoser, GMarshal was shot by VisceraEyes who had to take responsibility for shooting a townie and died himself. Jackal58 and SamuelLJackson were shot by mafia. This means that the 4 mafia players have 2 hits, which doesn't sound unlikely to me. Sorry if I was unclear about this in my first post. This seems like the simplest explanation to me, any other explanation that assumes that GMarshal flipped himself by hitting you or assumes that GMarshal lied about his claim in his 14:00KST post seems very unlikely to me. I'd much rather assume that VisceraEyes was a responsibility vig than I would assume that GMarshal lied or that GMarshal would flip even without getting hit. Now did you read the thread? You say here that you are speculating that GMarshal might have been some sort of suicide vigilante, after he had claimed suicide vigilante in the thread. Can you tell me why you are only speculating, that a confirmed townie who claimed suicide vig in thread, might be a suicide vig? "I'm guessing he has some sort of conscience", well the guy said that in this very thread! Did you read the thread? Are you saying that I am scum or what? I'd actually much rather continue pushing BloodyC0bbler because night hit analysis of this magnitude is bound to have a huge error margin, that's why we can't really agree. wherebugsgo's defense of BloodyC0bbler has been "Yea, but WIFOM?", attacking the one argument that I said was very debatable, and pointing out that a traitor supported it. I thought about how traitors should act, and I don't think they're going to act overly scummy in hopes that scum will find them. They're probably going to act kinda townie while never pushing to get a scum lynched, and then make a guess at the remaining mafia when they have 2 shots and only have to hit 1. If they act scummy, then they get lynched (or shot in the face). I am uncertain as to whether my case was actually good or bad because only wherebugsgo and VisceraEyes ever really commented on it. Right now only me and wherebugsgo are actually trying to say who we find scummy, maybe somebody else could chime in at some point in a non-wishy-washy manner. | ||
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@Mr. Wiggles Is Liquid`Sheth the best lynch for us today? | ||
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You use my town meta from Team Melee Mafia. A game where I was town and managed to get myself lynched day1. I thought I'd change my game since I was apparently doing something really wrong. It's cool that you thought that I was town in that game but not a lot of other people did, so I wanted to change my game. Why aren't you using my meta fro XLVIII or from Election Mafia? These are recent games where I play in a different way and I get killed by scum early on instead of getting lynched by town early on. Isn't it more likely that I would want to play like I did in XLVIII and Election Mafia instead of how I played in Team Melee Mafia? chaoser has already brought up how I'm not playing like I usually do and I redirected him to a post where Radfield uses the same argument in XLVIII. We were both town in that game. I woke in the middle of the night to participate in the lynch as well as I could. I didn't really think that LSB was scum but I wanted to lynch somebody and by the time I was up to date on the thread I felt like it was way to late for me to try to get somebody else lynched. I was tired and I just wanted to see if I was needed or if I could contribute anything but I didn't feel like I could and so I just left my vote and I went back to bed. I haven't been skimping on giving my opinion on anybody this game. I don't know what you mean about "not getting in anyone's face", I have been in BloodyC0bbler's face. Whose face have you been in besides Liquid`Sheth's? Also, I do come to a conclusion in my post, what are you talking about? As for me changing my opinion, I don't think I am the greatest scum hunter ever. The most valuable thing I can contribute is my own opinion, but I think that can be wrong. That's why I throw ideas out there and then I see if people latch on to them. There are 10 other townies in this game, if what I am saying is prudent then some of them will listen to it and back me up. For the BloodyC0bbler analysis I got feedback from like three people, one of them turned out to be the traitor, and wherebugsgo didn't like it. That's why I dropped it, it's probably not a good lynch if nobody likes it as a lynch. I still find him scummy though and I'd like to lynch him if people come around, because people will come around if they realize he's a good lynch. The same thing with Chezinu. I thought it was weird that he said "I was roleblocked, and I don't want to play anymore because this game is imbalanced", ESPECIALLY IN A CLOSED SETUP. What the hell does he know about the setup? Also his entire game has been a weird rebellion against Ver or something, he's making sense sometimes but it's hard to read, in XLVII VisceraEyes did a similar thing, he tunneled Palmar all day long and he didn't have to contribute a lot because of that. Chezinu tunnels Ver or something like that, while making obscure posts and weird claims, it is impossible to get a read on him but then he said something concrete that I felt didn't add up so I wanted to lynch him. People didn't latch on to it so now I am looking into RebirthOfLeGenD. As for the "he has failed to bring up new ideas" thing, that doesn't matter. An idea isn't good just because it is new and it is better to support existing good opinion than supporting your own original bad opinion. I have tried to do this in this game, I have taken inspiration from other people while I have tried to contribute myself, it is debatable whether I have brought anything good into this game and it doesn't matter if I have brought anything new into this game. Do you really think that I am scum? I feel like you are a bit lost in this game, then you fall back on some meta you have with me from ages ago when I played terribly and then you just write up an analysis to conclude that I'm scum. Either that or you are scum, maybe I should finish reading RebirthOfLeGenD in TMM and Personality Mafia and read some of your games, can you direct me to a recent game of yours where you were scum and one where you were town? | ||
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I don't care that it's christmas, you find time to post a 1 liner telling people about your hit sooner than 48 hours after daypost. ##Vote BloodyC0bbler | ||
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Why did you not change your vote to BloodyC0bbler then? You didn't push wherebugsgo very hard either, it was one post that might have attracted attention, but nobody really picked up the ball from there. Are you telling me that you thought that your vote was more well placed on wherebugsgo than on BloodyC0bbler, who had a lot more votes and who you also thought was scum? If you still think we should lynch wherebugsgo, then why didn't you push him harder yesterday? What did you do yesterday? Why does his claim making sense make him blue instead of red? He claimed 48 hours into the day, he absolutely knew that there would be no counter claims. So far, we have had three vigilantes claim, BloodyC0bbler should absolutely know that with this many vigilantes, any vigilante most likely does not have two shots and so they have no reasons not to tell town about their shots as soon as possible. Why does this claim make him blue instead of red? Considering this and how close he was to getting lynched yesterday, a claim like that doesn't seem very risky for a scum at all. | ||
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So about the night hits today and yesterday. Yesterday these people died: Palmar was shot by chaoser GMarshal was shot by BloodyC0bbler This leaves 3 people unaccounted for and I think maybe they were all shot by scum: Jackal58 was shot because he wouldn't attract any medic protection and because he's usually a good townie to have around come day2 (Jackal58 will tell you all that he's almost always wrong day1). SamuelLJackson was shot because he was a hydra and that hit would count as two hits and he wouldn't get medic protected because there was some suspicion on him day1. VisceraEyes was shot because he was the most obvious townie around and he was very active, also he soft claimed blue/vig. These hits only make sense if scum didn't know that there wasn't a medic which means that scum did not get full list of roles. I believe this because wherebugsgo was essentially the only person I could shoot with my vig condition and that was only barely. My vig condition is pretty obvious from my role name. Also, neither Foolishness nor BloodyC0bbler died day1 so scum must have been afraid of some sort of protection roles, they wouldn't be if they had gotten a list of 5-7 vigs unless they thought that everybody is green. Today's hits were: wherebugsgo by me (this is the first time I shoot scum so bear with me if I am being a little giddy) If scum had three hits yesterday they have around that today too, I seriously doubt that they killed 5 people though, 4 scum can't kill 5 people which means that somebody on this list was shot by town. I'm going to guess that scum shot 3 or maybe 4 people people if they have any additional KP. Foolishness I conjecture was shot by scum because of what he did to wherebugsgo. chaoser was pretty much confirmed town after having killed Palmar so scum shot him too. This leaves three people unaccounted for. BloodyC0bbler was being very inactive and a lot of people found him suspicious so I doubt that he was shot by scum. This leaves just GGQ or Mr. Wiggles as the last scum hits. I had town reads on both of these guys so I haven't a clue. Maybe some more vigs will claim today or whatever, maybe mafia actually just have this much KP. RebirthOfLeGenD He was busy day1 doing some paper, fair enough. Day2 he comes in and tries to explain the night hits, but it appears that his main agenda when explaining the night hits is to exonerate himself. On December 23 2011 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Oh and this part. That would also explain why GM released all his reads. If you believe my analysis of this, then congrats. I am now confirmed town by GM's death, or at the very least, confirmed not mafia. If only he said specifically how his role worked, oh well. The sentence "if you believe my analysis then i am confirmed not mafia" pretty much gives away his intention for doing the analysis in the first place. Townies don't emphasize being confirmed that much, they're content just not being scummy. His entire night1 analysis was full of flaws because he couldn't think clearly because he had this agenda, something that L pointed out up there too. This is followed up by a case on BloodyC0bbler. The quality of the case itself doesn't really matter here. The case is divided in three parts, posting, night hits and votes. His posting analysis is just going over other people's posts on BloodyC0bbler and adds nothing new. The night hits analysis is wild speculation and fits on just about everybody, he just comes up with some analysis about why people were hit and concludes that BloodyC0bbler might have thought this and thus he was behind it. The voting analysis is ultra safe, he concludes that BloodyC0bbler is scum because he was the fourth vote on LSB, and some article on mafiascum says that 4th vote is often scum. Also the very first line of the analysis: On December 25 2011 08:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Alright well, time to be productive. Sorry guys, I have been lazy and hesitant and whether or not to do this analysis. [...] Why would a townie be hesitant about doing analysis, especially one that is ultra safe like this? I suggest we start out with RebirthOfLeGenD. ##Vote RebirthOfLeGenD @syllogism Who do we lynch next? | ||
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Why aren't you voting RebirthOfLeGenD already? Even L is bussing him. | ||
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You better have a compelling argument for pushing kitaman27 today instead of RebirthOfLeGenD whom multiple people, townies according to your very own reads, already find very suspicious. Your "Things I'm pretty sure of without going in to why too much" is not a case at all, it's just arbitrary opinions that may or may not be true. We need to consolidate today. You either make a case for why RebirthOfLeGenD is innocent and make a case for why kitaman27 is scum, you vote RebirthOfLeGenD, or you are pushing scum agenda by being overly obstructive. | ||
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Look at how apathetic RebirthOfLeGenD is right now in face of getting lynched at lylo. He doesn't care at all because he's scum and because he's getting bussed. If you were townie and you were getting lynched and that lynch would cost town the game, wouldn't you fight a lot harder than this? He's just posting one liners and not caring about anything at all, because he is getting bussed. L's first real contribution in this game is a case on RebirthOfLeGenD full of stuff that he could just as easily have pointed out yesterday. Pretty much it doesn't matter if you think that kitaman27 is scum right now because we're lynching RebirthOfLeGenD and we need everybody to help out. Unless you are sure that RebirthOfLeGenD is town then you are going to vote him. Your entire case for RebirthOfLeGenD being town is "his story is just so weird", is that better than the arguments that L and I put forth? Totally unrelated, it's insane that Foolishness identified both wherebugsgo and L as scum on day1. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler killed GMarshal. Your entire scenario exonerating RebirthOfLeGenD is just you assuming that mafia only has 2KP, frantically trying to explain this scenario without supporting it with any arguments at all, and then concluding that RebirthOfLeGenD shot BloodyC0bbler. RebirthOfLeGenD most likely shot BloodyC0bbler but that tells us nothing about his alignment because BloodyC0bbler flipped green. If you think you have proved that RebirthOfLeGenD is town, then why are you still voting him? You guys realize that we can't split between L and RebirthOfLeGenD even though they're both scum right? We need 5 votes to lynch a scum, we actually need to pile ALL of our 8 votes onto one single candidate or else scum can do a last second switch and force no lynch which will end the game. There are good arguments for both of these guys being scum so we need to pick a wagon and then go with it. This means that tomorrow people are going to pile votes on whoever has the most votes, no matter what they believe. Even a single town vote in the wrong place will end the game. | ||
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I'm going to ask L a question. @L What did you find in GGQ and Mr. Wiggles' filters that was interesting? | ||
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##Unvote RebirthOfLeGenD ##Vote L | ||
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Chezinu has been away for 6 days straight. We need all 5 town votes to survive today. If Chezinu is town then this game is already lost. That means that either Chezinu is scum or we lose anyway. Is this a very compelling argument for everybody switching to Chezinu or what? | ||
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Here you say that you breadcrumbed your trigger, which we now know is that you can shoot people who are mean. I can't find it anywhere in your earlier posts, can you point it out for me? Also, can you explain what you were thinking day1 with the whole "this is the genesis of fakeclaims" and your Chezinu buddying and your multiphase plans that didn't amount to anything? Was all that just for the lulz? | ||
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Are you ever going to tell people what the hell you found in GGQ and Mr. Wiggles' filters or what? Did you claim yet? | ||
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that about Jackal58 and GGQ too when Jackal58 died? Jackal58 had been suspicious of GGQ and then Jackal58 died and you got suspicious of GGQ or something like that? | ||
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Why didn't you shoot Liquid`Sheth or Chezinu with your lurker shot? | ||
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chaoser and Foolishness never explained what they were, and LSB and GMarshal didn't have any triggers. @RebirthOfLeGenD Did you ever breadcrumb your role? @bumatlarge Why did you claim? | ||
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Overall I think it was a fun setup, but it's probably not going to be used again for a while  I don't get how Chezinu avoids the banlist but meh. | ||
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On December 24 2011 06:11 chaoser wrote: This is completely unrelated but as I was thinking about bumatlarge, I thought about Batman and man is he a DOUCHE! He IS the 1%. Dude's parents get killed so he uses all his money to learn martial arts freely and to build gadgets and shit. When he comes back from learning how to be fucking awesome, he's got a fucking mansion to live in. Then he goes out into the streets to fight and capture people who probably had similar misfortunes fall upon them as those that fell on him (parents died to street violence). But since they were not rich, they had no way of getting out of the situation and so they had to turn to a life of crime while Bruce had billions of dollars to help him get back up. THEN when he captures them, he throws them into a prison system where rehabilitation is extremely unlikely and no real treatment aside from "lock them up for a long time" is prescribed to the inmates. So that when they DO get out, they're forced to go back to the same way of life they had once lived, a life of crime. Finally, when it's too late and he gets shit on by the public about how he never deals with the Joker, he is forced to try to change the Joker for the better instead of just continuously locking him up into a failed penal system but by then it's too late and all he can do is continue the cycle of violence as shown in the end of the Killing Joke. That's some fucked up shit. Hey chaoser, what was this post about? Was it really just about Batman? | ||
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