• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:06
CEST 06:06
KST 13:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 221ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players Server Blocker
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3743 users

TL Mafia XLVIII

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 03 2011 21:18 GMT
#59
i like this playerlist

/in if there's room
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 16:42 GMT
#165
hi reading now

cybercheese also healed me and i was scum
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 16:46 GMT
#166
On December 04 2011 22:07 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 21:59 hyshes wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:26 Radfield wrote:
On December 04 2011 19:38 Palmar wrote:
Sup.

If we assume the hosts went with the most obvious way of balancing the game, two people out of this list are scum:

Radfield
Palmar
Jackal
sandroba
syllogism
redFF



I'm not sure if I agree with that list. I could easily see 1 of those 6 being scum, not two.

I would narrow it down further if you want to go that route:

Radfield
Palmar
sandroba
syllogism

1 of those 4 are scum.

However, I think that kind of thinking is at complete odds to proper play. Towns can be stacked and still implode(Caller. BC and Fishball in Closed Casket), and mafia can be stacked and still get washed out(Radfield, iGrok, Kitaman, GGQ, DocH, Cyber_Cheese in LOTR). If hosts are smart they will start true RNGing the set-up and seeing how things turn out.


So you guys don't exclude yourself from a 'possible scum list"?



Of course not

I don't expect you to think I am town based on me saying so. I expect you to watch my play and gradually exclude me from being scum based on merit.

or just autolynch you if you don't die night 1
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 16:56 GMT
#169
We are not even discussing nolynch until much later on in the game. It is the worst thing we can do day 1 because it gives us no information and mafia free kills. end of discussion.

Palmar looks kinda scummy right now.

##Vote Palmar
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 16:59 GMT
#171
shut up about detectives just check who you think is scummy.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 17:19 GMT
#180
On December 05 2011 02:00 prplhz wrote:
@redFF

What motivation could there be for a townie to propose a no-lynch this early on day1 in a closed setup? Do you think TruthBringer is bad enough not to be able to figure this out himself?

Why do you think Palmar looks kinda scummy right now?

yes
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 17:24 GMT
#181
On December 04 2011 19:38 Palmar wrote:
Sup.

If we assume the hosts went with the most obvious way of balancing the game, two people out of this list are scum:

Radfield
Palmar
Jackal
sandroba
syllogism
redFF
posts useless list
However I would never agree with lynching based on how we perceive the hosts balance games. They could just as well have randomized it or used some other method to balance it.
the very next thing he says basically calls the list useless

What I'm more interested in is that 6/25 seems like an oddly high number of mafia for a normal setup. Do you think this is offset by lower mafia KP or multiple town power roles?
I'm not sure what the point of this question is. Nobody (except maybe scum) knows for sure. It's pointless setup speculation to look like contributing with a hint of rolefishing.

In addition, how would you feel about randomly lynching on day 1. I mean completely random, we just have some kinda rng generator choose our lynch for the day.
I'm fairly sure this isn't going to happen, dumb idea. Besides we could never trust the person generating the number to not influence it themselves in some way.

redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 17:27 GMT
#182
On December 04 2011 22:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 22:32 syllogism wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:21 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2011 22:04 syllogism wrote:
Our EU players at the very least should be awake by now and posted: Corrupt, Erandorr, prplhz, Toadesstern. I would like to note that you are required to post at least once every 24h cycle.

Based on nothing at all, who would you lynch?

Palmar why did you ask me a question you knew how I would respond to? Did that reveal anything useful?


Because I knew what your answer would be, but I was unsure how it would be formulated.

Your chosen path was to to deny it decisively without trashing the idea. Which is interesting. You could've been much more careful or much more aggressive, you could have absolutely trashed the idea, or you could have carefully denied it.

I'm not sure how to read it though. What made you initiate a discussion with me? Normally you just call me annoying until you figure out if I'm town or scum. I mean, I have done the same thing with sandroba, but what factors control your choice of target (me) and your change in play?

You are European, likely awake and usually quite willing to start posting on your own. I don't recall ever calling you annoying, care to provide reference? I suppose the closest I can come up with is lotr where you weren't doing anything and I noted that.


Annoying may not be the word you use, but just think about our last game as town together where I was running for mayor. Your approach towards me is not the same.

he says syllo's play is different from his last game as town. It's being suspicious of him without actually saying anything concrete, this is how scum start wagons without anyone noticing they started it.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 17:57 GMT
#191
On December 05 2011 02:51 Palmar wrote:
I'm out for the night

redFF's case is terrible.

VisceraEyes's agreement is a proof it's terrible.

I'll explain why tomorrow, don't have time now.

hey at least its a case instead of pointless setup discussion and posts saying obvious things like

On December 04 2011 23:09 Palmar wrote:
Establishing your innocence is the first priority over anything else.

If you scumhunt, you might catch scum

If you establish your innocence you won't be lynched. If all townies won't be lynched, then the game has been solved. So yes, that should be syllos and everyone else's main concern.

this
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 17:57 GMT
#192
On December 05 2011 02:56 Corrupt wrote:
Wow~
Some sick investigations going on! I think I'm getting paranoid already.. yet it's my first game. (and first post)
This is not going to be easy... so many suspicious people already.

like who?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 18:07 GMT
#194
On December 05 2011 03:05 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 02:56 Corrupt wrote:
Wow~
Some sick investigations going on! I think I'm getting paranoid already.. yet it's my first game. (and first post)
This is not going to be easy... so many suspicious people already.


Tell us who is suspicious. Even if you want to say "I just think he is suspicious". It's not bad to be transparent, and don't be afraid to make mistakes and even turn back on your own word, as long as you make sense.

Unless of course you are scum, only scum is afraid of mistakes.


This post is the perfect example of a clueless scum post.

all this post does is say what i said 10 minutes earlier in 8 sentences instead of 2 words...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 18:15 GMT
#196
meh you say the same thing as me though, except you actually call him scum.

If it's the perfect example of a clueless scum post why isn't your vote on him?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 18:42 GMT
#199
why not? You can always change your vote at a later time, we aren't playing a game where someone can be hammered, we have a set deadline. It's not a throwaway vote if it's for something scummy.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 19:26 GMT
#203
you said "so many suspicious people already" yet you now say you are only suspicious of prplz?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 19:41 GMT
#205
lynch someone who looks scummy?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 19:49 GMT
#210
thats still not so many
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:08 GMT
#228
radfield what do you think of palmar, you seem to have ignored my case on him which is the only coherent case in the thread so far.

what do people think of corrupt stating "so many suspicious people already" and then when asked who, stalled for a while before only listing 1/2 players?

Zephirdd's non vote then vote after i pushed him also strikes me as scummy.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#232
On December 05 2011 01:38 annul wrote:
"Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job"

whoaaaaaaaaaa what

i believe what he meant to say was something along the lines of

or does town just sit around and wait for power roles to do our(town's) job(finding scum) for us(town)
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:11 GMT
#233
yeah ve buddying me is weird, but he's right in that i do have a good case.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 04 2011 21:20 GMT
#240
On December 05 2011 06:17 vaderseven wrote:
A no Lynch is awful for the reasons stated AND because it makes reading who voted who and why type info null.

We need everyone to vote and explain every reason they have for their vote because this the one thing Mafai have to lie about everyday. Even bussing is a lie in a sense.

Voting no Lynch is voting to hide relationships, motives, and information.


We are not even discussing nolynch until much later on in the game. It is the worst thing we can do day 1 because it gives us no information and mafia free kills. end of discussion.
no more please
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Crank Gathers S4: Qualifiers
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft724
RuFF_SC2 171
ProTech148
StarCraft: Brood War
Mind 179
Pusan 127
NaDa 68
Noble 21
ZergMaN 20
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm166
Counter-Strike
summit1g7860
Other Games
UpATreeSC45
JuggernautJason13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV196
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream193
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta65
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos954
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
7h 24m
OSC
8h 54m
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.