EPTThe only good thing I can find going through your filter is your analysis on Palmar. Almost everything else is a one-liner.
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The only good thing I can find going through your filter is your analysis on Palmar. Almost everything else is a one-liner. | ||
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On December 09 2011 12:48 Mattchew wrote: WE HAVE 10 FUCKING MINUTES PEOPLE ITS redFF OR NO LYNCH... YOU DECIDE Do not force people to vote for someone they don't think is scum. Let people come to their own logical conclusions. I agree with you that redFF is more than likely scum, but you need to cool off with some of this stuff. People need to vote for who they think is scum. Bandwagons are stupid. | ||
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On December 09 2011 12:55 bumatlarge wrote: From what I can see he's better then redff. That guy has been pushing palmar the entire game? Where is the analysis on redff, or are we just voting blindly as usual? What analysis led you to believe that annul was scum? Did you not see v7's post telling us annul is town? | ||
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Palmar proved it by using his additional vote in both lynches so far. This makes no sense. | ||
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On December 11 2011 23:09 Drazerk wrote: If you think Red is lying he is our next best target, you seem to be ignoring everyone who knows my meta and knows what I am capable of as town in order to try and lynch me. You don't want to lynch a town? Well you seem to be doing what you can in order to do so. I'm going to judge this based on an IRC game I had with draz where he was town and lied claiming cop, when I was cop. I've seen this play from him before and it's the only thing saving him from my vote right now. I'm placing my vote, once again, on redFF. I don't trust him, and his claim that he was roleblocked doesn't help at all. ##vote redFF | ||
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On December 05 2011 02:24 redFF wrote: posts useless list the very next thing he says basically calls the list useless I'm not sure what the point of this question is. Nobody (except maybe scum) knows for sure. It's pointless setup speculation to look like contributing with a hint of rolefishing. I'm fairly sure this isn't going to happen, dumb idea. Besides we could never trust the person generating the number to not influence it themselves in some way. Posts some semi-useful analysis day 1 of Palmar's play. Follows it up with this... On December 05 2011 02:57 redFF wrote: hey at least its a case instead of pointless setup discussion and posts saying obvious things like this Ok. My question is why do all this useless analysis when it's pretty clear Palmar is just trolling the shit out of everyone? Once Palmar provides his little defense against the "weak" cases against him, redff proceeds to just drop off him. On December 05 2011 21:23 redFF wrote: ##Unvote meh palmar you're ok for now can't get over corrupt saying "so many suspicious people" and then only being able to list 1 and then ignoring my pushing of the issue. ##Vote Corrupt Changing your mind is ok. Changing it to someone who is stumbling around and made a "slip" like that? (He said he thought a lot of people were suspicious and only came up with 2 when grilled) Seems pretty stupid to me. There were other viable targets at the time, like Zeph. Thus begins the massive flood of useless posts starring your favorites... On December 06 2011 00:54 redFF wrote: i have 3k posts On December 06 2011 01:54 redFF wrote: that was fucking stupid. On December 06 2011 09:43 redFF wrote: anyone not on a large wagon is anti town To me, much of his posting just seems to be reactionary callouts on people who want to vote him because as he likes to point out... On December 11 2011 03:26 redFF wrote: my play is so different from my scum play it's unreal. I'm gonna pull a palmar and say the good players know im town. also if nobody claims a second roleblock then either eran was lying or rad was rb'd or we have a town rb. He gets back on his Palmar wagon, for no apparent reason at all (he certainly doesn't see the need to point out his reasons) and then instaswaps to Drazerk when it comes out that Draz has LIED. Of all the things to confirm someone as an easy lynch target, it's lying. Do I approve of Draz's lie? No. I think it's really, really, really stupid. I told him as much in our IRC game, but he doesn't seem to care what I think and is dead set on his strategy. What I disapprove of even less is redFF's willingness to all of a sudden jump on Draz because of one thing. This is why I have placed my vote on redFF. I don't think anyone has a more compelling case piled up against them. TL;too many quotes: redFF has been on pretty much just Palmar all game, easy case against Draz pops up and he's on him like white on rice. he posts a shitton of useless one-liners that just serve to keep him "active" | ||
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EBWOP: And this. He can't help but post in ALL CAPS BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT HELPS MAKE POINTS!!! | ||
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On December 12 2011 08:28 Palmar wrote: The only good thing that can possibly come out of this is that there is a chance redFF is scum too. But I was leaning towards his reasons for not supporting my case last night being just bad. I mean, the guy has only voted townies so far (me, prplhz, hier). But I think redFF could be scum, I know annul is scum. Did you read my analysis? RedFF hasn't been helpful at all. I feel much more strongly about redFF than I do about annul, one way or the other. | ||
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On December 12 2011 08:56 Jackal58 wrote: You missed redFF's day 3 roleblock claim Also, Drazerk's admission that he was lying in hopes of getting shot. | ||
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On December 12 2011 10:59 Mattchew wrote: whats the counts at? You're seriously too lazy to go check the auto-update? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291512 RedFF has 10, annul has 6 | ||
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On December 14 2011 04:00 vaderseven wrote: Annul, you are a LIAR. Option 1 on Refallen? You choose to be a vet and target someone? LYNCH. ##vote annul GOD i hate being played. What the fuck? You've been like... THE pro-annul person in this game and then you flip to him on something that doesn't even make sense? | ||
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On December 14 2011 16:27 vaderseven wrote: And it IS omgus before you say it isn't. Imagine a 3 player game. 1 mafia, 1 cop, 1 VT. The cop and the mafia both say I AM THE COP. They then both vote each other. They are both OMGUSing each other. I thought OMGUS meant omg you suck... am I wrong? | ||
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On December 14 2011 16:35 vaderseven wrote: It is everything? The difference or the ordering of the claims? I don't get how thats everything. Vet and Bulletproof are common roles that can be on either side of mafia/town. OHH I get it. It is everything meaning that it is the crucial thing that forced your hand and, as such, has to be a part of everything you say concerning you vs me from this point on. I said vet was option 1 and then you said thats wrong and posted your list. You are counterclaiming bulletproof to my vet and saying that vet is anti-town. I say that vet is a fine town ability (lol at saying it isn't, nice use of comparison to create an abstract negative view of something that in reality is a positive). I also say that your counterclaim of bulletproof to my vet is a smoke screen to take attention off the fact that you LIED and said you used option 1 on Refallen. I called you out on that and said option one is a vet and then voted for you. Funny how that difference is 'everything.' I think the lie that you got caught in is everything. I'd argue that it isn't a lie, but instead a slip, if you feel it's a scumslip that's fine. I didn't vote annul because I didn't agree with Palmar's case against him, and I still don't. His flipping town was a surprise to me, I thought for sure he was scum. The only thing I've seen from annul that's been scummy has been his giving away of his dayvig and possibly that slip you're riding him for v7 (which is fine, at this point slips like that are all we have to go on). The only other people I have scumreads on are Mattchew and hyshes at this point. Since no one is going to vote Mattchew, that leaves me with hyshes and annul. Honestly, I want to vote hyshes because at this point there's no reason for having posted THAT little. I haven't been as active as I wanted to be, but at least I'm trying to help. Hyshes isn't. Mattchew has been posting enough that he's been contributing (even if he's been "horrible" at it) and letting people get reads on him. Again, hyshes isn't. So I'm left with looking and the only people I have a scumread on are voting annul. Then, the two people I've felt are town are voting hyshes (because of his horrible play, as opposed to what everyone else seems to be doing which is, omg Palmar) I'm placing my vote on hyshes. If it comes down to lynch annul or don't lynch at all I will move my vote onto him. As it stands, he's getting lynched anyways. ##vote hyshes Just as an afterthought. I was saying we shouldn't lynch Hier day 1 because we didn't have any posts to go off of and Hier was wayyyy too easy. Now it's day 3 and we have to lynch someone who's been playing scummy. Useless lurker is scummy at worst, horrible town at best. I'm leaning towards scum. | ||
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On December 06 2011 14:45 Hier wrote: It seems I have underestimated the amount of terrible town players in this game. I don't lurk, ever. Nor do I plan to. Not as town, not as scum. If I don't post, it's because I can't. Also, what kind of a pathetic death was that? I'll remember that, WBG. gg This isn't relevant now, and it might not be relevant at all. I just wanted to bring to light the part he bolded. Is there a role that makes it so people aren't allowed to post in the thread? Or did he just mean he couldn't post b/c he had real life issues? | ||
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On December 14 2011 16:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm good with this. ##Unvote: Drazerk ##Vote: vaderseven You're right. I haven't voted annul yet. And I'm still not. I've had a town read on annul all fucking game, and after this revelation, I'm fucking glad. I went back and looked over v7's posts. He's been very VERY careful indeed about going with the flow of town. He's been down with every 'town-decided' lynch that's gone down. Annul's right, the BP vs Vet thing is huge. It's what's going to land us our first scum lynch today. Scum wouldn't need the extra protection the BP part role provides, so it only makes sense that scum would get Vet instead of BP. vaderseven is flailing scum guys. His reaction to annul's pressure has me completely convinced. You need to go reread some of that filter. I'll agree with you that v7 has been following town for the most part, but he shot a townie day 1... he kind of had to. Also, he went AGAINST the annul lynch yesterday, which the majority of people seemed to want until redFF (if you're reading this redFF next time you're town don't fuck around and try to rely on meta, meta is a stupid thing to rely on to vouch for your actions. I'm not saying it's useless, but to rely on it is bad) | ||
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Make a case against someone else, if we manage to avoid fucking up, we can talk about v7 day 4. I don't see anything that would lead to v7 as mafia, and the one thing that would have (Palmar flipping town) is gone. Summary: V7 isn't going to get lynched today. Voting on him is pretty much a vote for nolynch because too many people think v7 is town (myself included). Make your case for someone else, this is useless. | ||
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##unvote hyshes ##vote sandroba | ||
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