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Risen
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On December 06 2011 09:43 redFF wrote: anyone not on a large wagon is anti town This isn't true. I was the large wagon last game, and that was so idiotic it hurt. I'd like anyone who votes to be able to make a case like, I voted for X because Y. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 09:46 Drazerk wrote: That wasn't majority lynch with no lynches And you're telling me lynching Palmar is the best move for town right now? I don't think it is. He's made some really stupid posts, but last game he was making some really stupid, idiotic posts and it led straight to his lynching. He was town then, and if he hadn't made his emounicorn post he wouldn't have been lynched. Now he's just being a troll and an idiot without the emounicorn, but I don't think he's scum. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 09:52 Drazerk wrote: It's too late in the day for new bandwagon targets. Focus on what we have NO! This is so illogical. How certain are you that Palmar is mafia? Vote for him because he's bandwagon is so ridiculous. We have a less than 25% chance of being right on Palmar, add to that his stupid posts and the % goes DOWN in my book, not up. Why is that percentage going up for you? He has CLAIMED a role. If his role vote doesn't show up on the list tonight THEN we sit back and say, oh shit Palmar lied TWICE to us. As it stands he was just pressuring v7 into making a move, he didn't force v7 to shoot Soap. Palmar was buddy buddy with Soap. V7 is a dumbass and shot a wrong target. If anything, Palmar is a vig target, because that gives us more time to look at where the chips fall. What happens when we lynch Palmar and his anonymous vote shows up on Hier? We just lost ourselves a double vote for as long as we can keep him alive. This is JUST like last game. What if bloodyc0bbler had been scum in that game? We shot ourselves in the foot and got LUCKY that we double voted in town. We have a person claiming blue, if his blue power doesn't show up? Vig shot or lynch day 2. This decision is being forced upon us because we "need" to lynch. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 09:55 Zephirdd wrote: K, finished compiling the votes. Fun fact, Palmar and Risen have yet to vote on the voting thread(where they actually count). And incognito decided to update the vote count just after I finished compiling. FML. + Show Spoiler [Just so it isnt wasted] + prplhz - Radfield, -Radfield, Zephirdd, -Zephirdd syllogism - hyshes, Hier Palmar - redFF, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern, -Toadesstern, -redFF, TruthBringer, Zephirdd, Drazerk, Lanaia, -Zephirdd, Corrupt, annul, vaderseven, Zephirdd, redFF Corrupt - Zephirdd, vaderseven, redFF, -Zephirdd, -vaderseven, -redFF Radfield - vaderseven, -vaderseven, Jackal58, supersoft, -supersoft Drazerk - Soap, -Soap Soap - annul, Refallen, -Refallen, -annul TruthBringer - prplhz, Toadesstern, -prplhz, -Toadesstern Drazerk - Palmar, -Palmar redFF - vaderseven, -vaderseven, Mattchew vaderseven - Palmar, prplhz, Drazerk, -Drazerk Hier - syllogism, Toadesstern Lanaia - Radfield, sandroba, Refallen VisceralEyes - Refallen, -Refallen Erandorr - supersoft real vote count Anyone not voting for Palmar without a true reason to REALLY believe Palmar is town, especially after what he did(instead of defending his ass to the end and hope for the no-lynch, he basically shits on my face and my defense and claims a scumrole), should really consider switching to him to grab that lynch.Yes I am mad He is, indeed, the less likely town on my opinion right now. Umm, what? On December 06 2011 09:51 Risen wrote: ## vote Lanaia | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:00 Drazerk wrote: How wasn't that Palmar's fault? He claimed day vigi and put a timer to V7's head. He had no choice but to role claim then later prove his role claim or the entire town would of lynched him ( Myself included ) He is not slowly coming around he is doing his typical defence of shrugging off any attackers and calling everyone bad. This is not pro town this is destroying the atmosphere we had. Scum are currently directing us towards the no lynch ( Voting for anyone but Palmar ) which is a 100% benefit for them opposed to lynching palmar who is on their team. How can you not consider that scum is directing us to a lynch on Palmar. Why are they leading us to no lynch instead of lynch on Palmar? | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:05 redFF wrote: @ERANDORR YOU POST YOUR FIRST CASE 4 HOURS FROM THE END OF DAY 1 BITCH PLEASE Last game taught me that you should post your cases as you write them. Withholding information and thoughts is not a good thing. How could that be a good thing? | ||
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Risen
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In the vote thread it has Palmar on v7 and Anonymous on Hier. That has to be Palmar. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote: The case against lanania is much weaker lol Case against Palmar: He "forced v7s hand" and he's posting like a troll. Case against Lanaia: She's voting Palmar based on him "being weird". She's just "echoing" what other people are saying, and she even admits it. Her whole case against him is that she doesn't know what he's doing. It's DAY 1. She said she'll be back before voting ends, and if she can actually substantiate herself then I'll move off her. I don't see how the case against Palmar is stronger than Lanaia, though. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:14 Radfield wrote: ##Vote: Hier I think Hier is a better choice than Lanaia right now. Everyone on Lanaia should swing over and consolodate on Heir. Why are we swinging to Hier? Lanaia has proven that she's going to vote illogically based on her "feelings". What has Hier done wrong? | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:21 Palmar wrote: I'm town, you're terrible at mafia. By the way, I need to sleep it's 1am at my time. If I get lynched. Everyone on this wagon should take a good long hard look at their play, because there is a reason all the players who are commonly considered good have stayed the hell away from my lynch. I know my play hasn't been very productive in this game, I wanted to have a laid back/fun game after the massive pain in the ass that was XLVII. I wanted to play casually and troll around a bit, so I was happy when I got town with a fairly non-important role. That doesn't change the fact that that nothing about my play has been scummy. Anyone saying that is simply incorrect, a fact that will be proven by my lynch. I want that to sink in. If I do get lynched, you guys are taking active stance against some of the best players TL has to offer, and have the audacity to dare think you're right. You obviously aren't, but feel free to fail before you believe me. There is no excuse for voting me at this time. You will not be able to say "But Palmar was playing badly", because that doesn't make me scum. Bad != scum. And you will not be able to say that we had no better lynch, because a no-lynch is preferable to killing townies. Remember that, when/if I flip. This may be the most polarizing lynch I've ever seen in mafia, seperating good players from bad players. I am fully aware I made myself a target. Does that make me mafia? Hell no. There are only two reasons to be on my wagon when I flip. a) You're incredibly bad b) You're scum Good night. Palmar this is not a good defense. OMGUS is horrible. Why not just stop after you said you wanted to have a casual trolly game. Why go on and on about everyone voting for you sucking... | ||
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On December 06 2011 10:33 Radfield wrote: Lynching scummy lurkers is kinda always the back-up plan for Majority day 1 lynches. Hier's case was extremely forced, and he has contributed nothing since then. Ideally he would not be the lynch, but it's an OK lynch nonetheless. It's better than Lanaia at this point, and miles better than Palmar. So I'm supposed to vote hier because we need a lynch even though I don't think he's scum? Makes sense to me. What do we gain when he flips town? How positive are you that he's scum? There's no case and all I have on him is a null read. I guess if he didn't want to be lynched he'd have defended himself, but the swap JUST came. If he doesn't post the remainder of the time I'll consider swapping, since he's the only true "null" read I have. What kind of scum sees all this going on and just keeps lurking? | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:35 Zephirdd wrote: Didn't we accept that Lynch Scummy player > Lynch Lurking player > Lynching Active player ? Somehow Palmar has a chance to flip town. And I don't find it to be actually a low chance, despite my earlier rage. and I don't like Lanaia's case against her(mostly over the fact that her posts actually fits her town meta). I was lurking almost all today because I was busy as shit. We're not lynching based on logic, we're lynching just to lynch. That's what has me feeling like this is stupid. | ||
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On December 06 2011 10:38 Radfield wrote: We need three more votes. Assuming the votes on Palmar are locked in, we need 3 of the following players to switch to Hier: Risen prplhz Mattchew Jackal58 hyshes supersoft and someone who hasn't voted, not sure who, but I only count 23 votes on the list(24 with anon) We should have 25 votes total tonight, because there were 25 to start and Soap got killed. Palmar has two votes, so that just leaves us at 25 still. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:40 redFF wrote: i agree that how he is acting right now is similar to how he was acting last game before being lynched but that is almost certainly intention and i treat it as more scummy than anything else. Then what's the point of meta at all? Oh he's acting how he did that one time, he must be town. He's acting like he did that one time, makes him more scummy imo. Seems like using meta at all is just WIFOM b/c the person in question has to know he's being looked at. So that means we should just build a case against him based on what he's done in this thread. | ||
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Risen
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On December 06 2011 10:39 Lanaia wrote: ##unvote: Palmar ##Vote: Hier | ||
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On December 06 2011 10:53 Lanaia wrote: It was in my last post, Risen. Palmar was acting like he did last game before he got lynched and that I felt he was town. Or do you mean why I switched to Hier? To avoid a Palmar lynch, he was the best target. People were consolidating onto him and from what I've seen in the past, Palmar can be a hell of a lot more helpful than Hier. I had meant why did you swap onto Hier, somehow I missed your post. I don't understand why everyone and their mother is hopping ship all of a sudden is all. Bloodyc0bbler much? There we had the benefit of them having no excuses. Here we don't have shit, we won't be able to single out anyone swapping because it's not happening at the last minute. Where does this leave us day 2? We have like just over a 25% chance of scoring on Hier in my mind. If he flips scum, well hot damn we just hit our straight. If he doesn't, oh... well shit I guess I shouldn't have bet like a madman. | ||
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