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You can say the case on Palmar is garbage and I will say you are wrong. You say I am experienced, you know ace was. Do you think its just random retardedness that has two of the most experienced players in the game focus'd on one player? Do you think its actually townlike to push the first round of lynches off clues? Do you think its townlike to push for double lynch for day 2? No to either of those, then why are you ok with annul living, he has done both and continues to play anti town.
WTF is this. I think I am going to vote for you after all. You are like tunnel visioning not because you feel strong but because it gives you something to hide behind.
Its like you don't even try to make sense and instead just try to tunnel so you have things to post about.
You still havent bothered to talk about a very HUGE piece of evidence that is on someone that is probably going to flip red or be remember as an example of why to not lie as town. In fact, you keep saying ITS JUST CLUES GUYS JUST CLUES SETTLE DOWN.
Can you try a bit harder to like take in the whole thread before deadline hits?
##unvote Risen
##vote BloodyC0bbler
your role is very abusive as scum with the ability to hide people from night investigations and you seem to ignroe the power of Palmer's role that you will gain. On top of that you ignore almost all scum hunting in favor of talking about a VERY small group of players (mostly palmer OVER AND OVER).
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On November 30 2011 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This point is completely moot as a red or town player could make this argument.
Hum there is 0 reason when you have alot of people saying they think you might be a good lynch choice to say I might be a miller JUST IN CASE YOU CHECKED.
That is lieing to the town.
Cut and Dry.
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I am not even trying to wagon you at this moment, my votes are clear where they are and they are not moving. If you say I am wagoning then i would be saying "vote wbg." I am instead pointing people at you. If palmar was so townish he would defend himself or prove himself town. Instead he lets others fight for him, this is mafia like. You can disagree all you want but anyone who is strongly town and there is strong opposition against him will attempt something. The only time this is not the case is if someone cannot defend the case against them via it being so noose tightening or it being so far stretched anyone with a brain would ignore it and a defense would not be needed aside a small line.
You can say the case on Palmar is garbage and I will say you are wrong. You say I am experienced, you know ace was. Do you think its just random retardedness that has two of the most experienced players in the game focus'd on one player? Do you think its actually townlike to push the first round of lynches off clues? Do you think its townlike to push for double lynch for day 2? No to either of those, then why are you ok with annul living, he has done both and continues to play anti town.
Why was I so passive? Because I now have to push my reads and attempt to stop town from offing itself. I am naturally an aggressive player, don't like it? Thats fine. I am what I am and this is how I play. Notice how even with being more aggressive I am still posting logically? Gasp its magical.
Syllo is indeed bad for recommending a bad play even for flipping town. His alignment doesn't suddenly make his choice good. Look at the situation we are currently in? Does this honestly scream smart choice by him or roba? No.
As for threatening you? You are the only one actually posting against me in a solid argument so kudos. Where are the others who decided to try and shank me while I was gone?
Yeah, two good players can certainly be wrong about the same player, even if they're both town.
Case in point, Chezinu House, TL Mafia XLV. I was in a town circle with GMarshal and Incognito. We completely fucked ourselves over hard by thinking one of the towniest players in the game was actually scum. GM and Incog are very good players, and all 3 of us were wrong despite thinking along the same lines of logic.
You know what people did that game? They said at least one of us had to be scum because we were so fucking wrong. In fact, all three of us were town.
In this case the only decent players going after Palmar were you and Ace. Everyone else who has voted Palmar is a sheep. Don't believe me?
Look at the damn vote list.
Palmar: 13
prplhz
Hier
Risen
supersoft
Serejai
Benjef
Steveling
BloodyC0bbler
GreYMisT
ey215
Lanaia
Kurumi
Serejai
redFF
deconduo
Mattchew
Cyber_Cheese
AmericanUmlaut
You see a single decent player on there?
Every single one of those players is a sheep. This case is terrible because only stupid people and scum are following it.
Syllo is indeed bad for recommending a bad play even for flipping town. His alignment doesn't suddenly make his choice good. Look at the situation we are currently in? Does this honestly scream smart choice by him or roba? No.
Let's turn your damn logic around on yourself.
Ace is indeed bad for recommending a bad play even for flipping town. His alignment doesn't suddenly make his choice good. Look at the situation we are currently in? Does this honestly scream smart choice by him or you? No.
Wow, wonderful logic when I can turn it around to point at you and Ace too!
Ace flipping town doesn't make Palmar any more likely to be scum, yet you are pushing this lynch so hard. You and Ace are good players, but like YOU YOURSELF said, a player flipping town does not make his choice any better.
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On November 30 2011 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 10:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 10:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:34 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:23 vaderseven wrote:
BloodyC0bbler, what do you think of Zeks and prplhz? Zeks is a bad lynch as the only reasoning to kill him is on clues. Prprlhz is also a bad lynch as he was proposed basically while I was gone at work in the last 9 hours. With this much vote swapping and attempt to swap votes, mafia are playing insanely hard to manipulate the vote. Zeks is a bad choice, as is prphlz. My votes will stay where they are. Even if me swapping my vote would save myself I will not do it. That is where my strongest reads are, that is where my votes will stay. READ my last like 10 posts or so and find out there is a huge reason to vote zeks beyond clues. He soft claimed miller and asked if people investigated him then claims vigi later on. I really wouldnt have a problem with you BC if you didnt like tunnel in on palmer for 90% of this game. Most of you posts are about how he is scum and I just buy 0% of what you are saying. I didn't like Palmer's campaign at first but I hated every campaign... There is just something not right about you and no matter where I look I cant get the info I need to pinpoint it beacuse all you do is say the town is dumb and palmer is dumb. Wait. Thats what I have a problem with. He claimed a role, not an alignment. He could say he is a town vig but no one would ever believe that, instead he just claimed his role. A mafia in most cases would claim the alignment to garner sympathy. Instead he just says you lynch a vig. He can't ever confirm his alignment to you until dts clear sanity so he chose his role. It is more likely vigi's are town and not red. He did not claim miller -_- he claimed his role in black, or did I missread his entire post? He totally soft claimed miller. In order to say "what if I am a miller" he has to be a vanilla town. He later claimed vig. Why the fuck would he warn us of him being a miller if he's going to claim vig later? On November 29 2011 23:31 zeks wrote:On November 29 2011 23:12 Palmar wrote:On November 29 2011 23:05 sandroba wrote:
I agree lynching zeks and risen. Zeks may not be scum, but I'm willing to take a chance. Risen activity spiked like hell now that the heat is on and he came in and posted several coherent posts. Pretty sure he is mafia, despite w/e scum slip. Don't have a good reason for risk to be mafia at this point. He fos'ed that steven dude who I think is scummy as shit. What makes you say Zeks may not be scum? Last night you were pretty suspicious of him? You and I both know that while not applicable as scumtell, it's pretty common for mafia to disappear over the night, which is exactly what you did. I'm listening though, if you have any solid reasoning to back it up. The only thing making me hesitate on Risen is the fact Ace was considering opposing the wagon on him. Ace can't have been wrong on everything. did you read my post on how prplhz's play is far removed from what I've come to know as his normal town play? What kind of logic is lynching me and I may not be scum? Can't believe I'm going down on 95% clues...sigh I'm disappointed to say the least. I'm just going to say right now that this is a terrible mistake town is making and a big waste of a lynch. Judging from the tone of some of your posts I might've been DT checked last night and returned scum/guilty (I won't say by who)... if so please consider your sanity / or the possibility I'm Miller! I guess that person probably thinks whatever I am it doesn't really matter - at the very least he can verify his sanity or something. Honestly other than that I know I couldn't have been pegged on clues alone - town knows better than that. As for defending myself I don't know what I can say more; the clues and my profile are there - you guys can link them together however you want. As many vets have said clues can't be completely trusted as a basis for a lynch as mods tend to make them vague...but if this is how its going to be then so be it. I've been as sincere as possible when posting and other people have acted way scummier than me (despite my activity) and also have clues pegged on them yet they're getting away spot free. My bad I misread that section of his post. However if you were sure you were getting pushed on a dt check would you first out your role or try and convince a dt to back down? This point is completely moot as a red or town player could make this argument. His stance on his defense is pretty clear. Clues are being linked to him and its been pointed out its unlikely that such an obvious clue is actually a clue to him. What more do you want from a defense against "i think x means you are red die" other than say "you are wrong" or the like? There is no solid analysis on him to have him offed.
So you are completely fine with trying to push Palmar to lynch for an apparent non-role related lie, but you are not okay with lynching Zeks for a blatant role-related lie?
Zeks cannot be miller unless he is vanilla town, and he would know that. Knowing that, he would never in a million years suggest that a DT could be messed up by him being a miller and then later claim vig unless he was scum fake claiming or had just had a lobotomy.
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On November 30 2011 11:07 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +You can say the case on Palmar is garbage and I will say you are wrong. You say I am experienced, you know ace was. Do you think its just random retardedness that has two of the most experienced players in the game focus'd on one player? Do you think its actually townlike to push the first round of lynches off clues? Do you think its townlike to push for double lynch for day 2? No to either of those, then why are you ok with annul living, he has done both and continues to play anti town. WTF is this. I think I am going to vote for you after all. You are like tunnel visioning not because you feel strong but because it gives you something to hide behind. Its like you don't even try to make sense and instead just try to tunnel so you have things to post about. You still havent bothered to talk about a very HUGE piece of evidence that is on someone that is probably going to flip red or be remember as an example of why to not lie as town. In fact, you keep saying ITS JUST CLUES GUYS JUST CLUES SETTLE DOWN. Can you try a bit harder to like take in the whole thread before deadline hits? ##unvote Risen
##vote BloodyC0bbleryour role is very abusive as scum with the ability to hide people from night investigations and you seem to ignroe the power of Palmer's role that you will gain. On top of that you ignore almost all scum hunting in favor of talking about a VERY small group of players (mostly palmer OVER AND OVER).
Who? zeks? hassybaby? hier? Supersoft? Risen? prplhz
Bad lynches are fucking bad lynches. Risen is a newbie and he is being lynched primarily for a few bad posts. Could he be red? Yes. However you ignore the people posting fucking blatantly in your face red. The cases on the others are trash. I offer you analysis and push a target. Yes I latch on and don't let go, thats how you play.
You ask me to take in the whole thread, I have read it and formed my own opinions. If people want to try and sway my mind convince me with reasonable solid cases not garbage. Welcome to the play you and palmar keep talking about WBG if you don't like it kick me off the island for I am not going to let you guys sink the town without a fight.
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glad im not on the old vote list or id be offended
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On November 30 2011 11:12 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 10:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:34 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:23 vaderseven wrote:
BloodyC0bbler, what do you think of Zeks and prplhz? Zeks is a bad lynch as the only reasoning to kill him is on clues. Prprlhz is also a bad lynch as he was proposed basically while I was gone at work in the last 9 hours. With this much vote swapping and attempt to swap votes, mafia are playing insanely hard to manipulate the vote. Zeks is a bad choice, as is prphlz. My votes will stay where they are. Even if me swapping my vote would save myself I will not do it. That is where my strongest reads are, that is where my votes will stay. READ my last like 10 posts or so and find out there is a huge reason to vote zeks beyond clues. He soft claimed miller and asked if people investigated him then claims vigi later on. I really wouldnt have a problem with you BC if you didnt like tunnel in on palmer for 90% of this game. Most of you posts are about how he is scum and I just buy 0% of what you are saying. I didn't like Palmer's campaign at first but I hated every campaign... There is just something not right about you and no matter where I look I cant get the info I need to pinpoint it beacuse all you do is say the town is dumb and palmer is dumb. Wait. Thats what I have a problem with. He claimed a role, not an alignment. He could say he is a town vig but no one would ever believe that, instead he just claimed his role. A mafia in most cases would claim the alignment to garner sympathy. Instead he just says you lynch a vig. He can't ever confirm his alignment to you until dts clear sanity so he chose his role. It is more likely vigi's are town and not red. He did not claim miller -_- he claimed his role in black, or did I missread his entire post? He totally soft claimed miller. In order to say "what if I am a miller" he has to be a vanilla town. He later claimed vig. Why the fuck would he warn us of him being a miller if he's going to claim vig later? On November 29 2011 23:31 zeks wrote:On November 29 2011 23:12 Palmar wrote:On November 29 2011 23:05 sandroba wrote:
I agree lynching zeks and risen. Zeks may not be scum, but I'm willing to take a chance. Risen activity spiked like hell now that the heat is on and he came in and posted several coherent posts. Pretty sure he is mafia, despite w/e scum slip. Don't have a good reason for risk to be mafia at this point. He fos'ed that steven dude who I think is scummy as shit. What makes you say Zeks may not be scum? Last night you were pretty suspicious of him? You and I both know that while not applicable as scumtell, it's pretty common for mafia to disappear over the night, which is exactly what you did. I'm listening though, if you have any solid reasoning to back it up. The only thing making me hesitate on Risen is the fact Ace was considering opposing the wagon on him. Ace can't have been wrong on everything. did you read my post on how prplhz's play is far removed from what I've come to know as his normal town play? What kind of logic is lynching me and I may not be scum? Can't believe I'm going down on 95% clues...sigh I'm disappointed to say the least. I'm just going to say right now that this is a terrible mistake town is making and a big waste of a lynch. Judging from the tone of some of your posts I might've been DT checked last night and returned scum/guilty (I won't say by who)... if so please consider your sanity / or the possibility I'm Miller! I guess that person probably thinks whatever I am it doesn't really matter - at the very least he can verify his sanity or something. Honestly other than that I know I couldn't have been pegged on clues alone - town knows better than that. As for defending myself I don't know what I can say more; the clues and my profile are there - you guys can link them together however you want. As many vets have said clues can't be completely trusted as a basis for a lynch as mods tend to make them vague...but if this is how its going to be then so be it. I've been as sincere as possible when posting and other people have acted way scummier than me (despite my activity) and also have clues pegged on them yet they're getting away spot free. My bad I misread that section of his post. However if you were sure you were getting pushed on a dt check would you first out your role or try and convince a dt to back down? This point is completely moot as a red or town player could make this argument. His stance on his defense is pretty clear. Clues are being linked to him and its been pointed out its unlikely that such an obvious clue is actually a clue to him. What more do you want from a defense against "i think x means you are red die" other than say "you are wrong" or the like? There is no solid analysis on him to have him offed. So you are completely fine with trying to push Palmar to lynch for an apparent non-role related lie, but you are not okay with lynching Zeks for a blatant role-related lie? Zeks cannot be miller unless he is vanilla town, and he would know that. Knowing that, he would never in a million years suggest that a DT could be messed up by him being a miller and then later claim vig unless he was scum fake claiming or had just had a lobotomy.
How is zeks trying to hide the fact he could have a role anti town? Had he outright claimed vig he would be a fucking dumbtard. He said he thought a dt may be pushing him and offered a dt solutions as to why he "flipped red" to a check. His post is fucking reasonable. A rolecop would never push his death only a dt would off investigation. To try and hide your role you deal with one solution and only give up his remaining information when he feels he is actually going to die.
He did not outright lie he offered a solution. And someone outright lying on actions they will or wont do is far greater than someone witholding their role. Why are you so sure of zeks? Seriously if you say my case on palmar is a stretch the one you are holding on zeks is far more of one.
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BC can you, once again, reiterate what it is that Palmar lied about?
I am seriously not seeing how you can find something about which Palmar lied that is more serious than a play soft-claiming miller/vanilla town and then later claiming vigilante.
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On November 30 2011 11:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:12 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:53 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 30 2011 10:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:34 vaderseven wrote:On November 30 2011 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 30 2011 10:23 vaderseven wrote:
BloodyC0bbler, what do you think of Zeks and prplhz? Zeks is a bad lynch as the only reasoning to kill him is on clues. Prprlhz is also a bad lynch as he was proposed basically while I was gone at work in the last 9 hours. With this much vote swapping and attempt to swap votes, mafia are playing insanely hard to manipulate the vote. Zeks is a bad choice, as is prphlz. My votes will stay where they are. Even if me swapping my vote would save myself I will not do it. That is where my strongest reads are, that is where my votes will stay. READ my last like 10 posts or so and find out there is a huge reason to vote zeks beyond clues. He soft claimed miller and asked if people investigated him then claims vigi later on. I really wouldnt have a problem with you BC if you didnt like tunnel in on palmer for 90% of this game. Most of you posts are about how he is scum and I just buy 0% of what you are saying. I didn't like Palmer's campaign at first but I hated every campaign... There is just something not right about you and no matter where I look I cant get the info I need to pinpoint it beacuse all you do is say the town is dumb and palmer is dumb. Wait. Thats what I have a problem with. He claimed a role, not an alignment. He could say he is a town vig but no one would ever believe that, instead he just claimed his role. A mafia in most cases would claim the alignment to garner sympathy. Instead he just says you lynch a vig. He can't ever confirm his alignment to you until dts clear sanity so he chose his role. It is more likely vigi's are town and not red. He did not claim miller -_- he claimed his role in black, or did I missread his entire post? He totally soft claimed miller. In order to say "what if I am a miller" he has to be a vanilla town. He later claimed vig. Why the fuck would he warn us of him being a miller if he's going to claim vig later? On November 29 2011 23:31 zeks wrote:On November 29 2011 23:12 Palmar wrote:On November 29 2011 23:05 sandroba wrote:
I agree lynching zeks and risen. Zeks may not be scum, but I'm willing to take a chance. Risen activity spiked like hell now that the heat is on and he came in and posted several coherent posts. Pretty sure he is mafia, despite w/e scum slip. Don't have a good reason for risk to be mafia at this point. He fos'ed that steven dude who I think is scummy as shit. What makes you say Zeks may not be scum? Last night you were pretty suspicious of him? You and I both know that while not applicable as scumtell, it's pretty common for mafia to disappear over the night, which is exactly what you did. I'm listening though, if you have any solid reasoning to back it up. The only thing making me hesitate on Risen is the fact Ace was considering opposing the wagon on him. Ace can't have been wrong on everything. did you read my post on how prplhz's play is far removed from what I've come to know as his normal town play? What kind of logic is lynching me and I may not be scum? Can't believe I'm going down on 95% clues...sigh I'm disappointed to say the least. I'm just going to say right now that this is a terrible mistake town is making and a big waste of a lynch. Judging from the tone of some of your posts I might've been DT checked last night and returned scum/guilty (I won't say by who)... if so please consider your sanity / or the possibility I'm Miller! I guess that person probably thinks whatever I am it doesn't really matter - at the very least he can verify his sanity or something. Honestly other than that I know I couldn't have been pegged on clues alone - town knows better than that. As for defending myself I don't know what I can say more; the clues and my profile are there - you guys can link them together however you want. As many vets have said clues can't be completely trusted as a basis for a lynch as mods tend to make them vague...but if this is how its going to be then so be it. I've been as sincere as possible when posting and other people have acted way scummier than me (despite my activity) and also have clues pegged on them yet they're getting away spot free. My bad I misread that section of his post. However if you were sure you were getting pushed on a dt check would you first out your role or try and convince a dt to back down? This point is completely moot as a red or town player could make this argument. His stance on his defense is pretty clear. Clues are being linked to him and its been pointed out its unlikely that such an obvious clue is actually a clue to him. What more do you want from a defense against "i think x means you are red die" other than say "you are wrong" or the like? There is no solid analysis on him to have him offed. So you are completely fine with trying to push Palmar to lynch for an apparent non-role related lie, but you are not okay with lynching Zeks for a blatant role-related lie? Zeks cannot be miller unless he is vanilla town, and he would know that. Knowing that, he would never in a million years suggest that a DT could be messed up by him being a miller and then later claim vig unless he was scum fake claiming or had just had a lobotomy. How is zeks trying to hide the fact he could have a role anti town? Had he outright claimed vig he would be a fucking dumbtard. He said he thought a dt may be pushing him and offered a dt solutions as to why he "flipped red" to a check. His post is fucking reasonable. A rolecop would never push his death only a dt would off investigation. To try and hide your role you deal with one solution and only give up his remaining information when he feels he is actually going to die. He did not outright lie he offered a solution. And someone outright lying on actions they will or wont do is far greater than someone witholding their role. Why are you so sure of zeks? Seriously if you say my case on palmar is a stretch the one you are holding on zeks is far more of one.
So, if you were a town vig, you would offer being a miller as a solution to there possibly being a red check on you?
He NEVER mentioned framers, but he mentioned being a miller.
Then he claimed vig. How the fuck does that work?
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However you ignore the people posting fucking blatantly in your face red. The cases on the others are trash. I offer you analysis and push a target. Yes I latch on and don't let go, thats how you play.
You are the one that came off as blantat almost like to perfect to be true. Thats why I decided I had to vote for you over others.
Latching on and not letting go is not good play. You state that like it is.
Tunneling in and then allowing your thoughts to progress is fine, thats what alot of people do.
Choosing someone day 1 and then not letting go... especially when he has what is possibly the strongest role in the game is just BAD play that you can hide behind.
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On November 30 2011 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
BC can you, once again, reiterate what it is that Palmar lied about?
I am seriously not seeing how you can find something about which Palmar lied that is more serious than a play soft-claiming miller/vanilla town and then later claiming vigilante.
How is hiding you have a blue role anti town? Seriously. Claiming miller/vanilla for purposes where he said he thought a dt checked him is fine. It would explain why someone received a red check from him.
Palmar has done more than lie, the lie was just the final straw. He has a collection of spotty friggen plays. Two meh posts from one player compared to a collection of bad posts from another? Im so glad we lynch off the few and not the many, god knows the larger pool to analyze from is usually the wrong choice.
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On November 30 2011 11:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
BC can you, once again, reiterate what it is that Palmar lied about?
I am seriously not seeing how you can find something about which Palmar lied that is more serious than a play soft-claiming miller/vanilla town and then later claiming vigilante. How is hiding you have a blue role anti town? Seriously. Claiming miller/vanilla for purposes where he said he thought a dt checked him is fine. It would explain why someone received a red check from him. Palmar has done more than lie, the lie was just the final straw. He has a collection of spotty friggen plays. Two meh posts from one player compared to a collection of bad posts from another? Im so glad we lynch off the few and not the many, god knows the larger pool to analyze from is usually the wrong choice.
lol claiming miller would explain why someone would have a red check on him, but then it wouldn't explain him claiming vigilante later.
Now you're just dodging my questions.
I am asking you to state when and how Palmar lied. Is this so hard to answer?
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On November 30 2011 11:17 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +However you ignore the people posting fucking blatantly in your face red. The cases on the others are trash. I offer you analysis and push a target. Yes I latch on and don't let go, thats how you play. You are the one that came off as blantat almost like to perfect to be true. Thats why I decided I had to vote for you over others. Latching on and not letting go is not good play. You state that like it is. Tunneling in and then allowing your thoughts to progress is fine, thats what alot of people do. Choosing someone day 1 and then not letting go... especially when he has what is possibly the strongest role in the game is just BAD play that you can hide behind.
.....ROLE DOES NOT = ALIGNMENT.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. IF HE IS RED THEN THE MAFIA HAS IT.
I have analyzed him and proven why I believe he is red. His role does not make him town. For fucks sake. He is near being offed like I am and rather than posting near the end trying to help anyone he martyred himself and fucking left the thread? Thats townlike?
Jesus, roles do not win fucking mafia games, players do.
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Bugs I have quoted the same lie and bolded it twice. If you are choosing not to read it then your a fucking tard. I posted it like 2 pages ago, filter me and find it. You ask me to take in the entire thread and you aren't even reading? jesus.
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I dont understand you defending zek's lie. Help me out here. You parroted the ITS JUST CLUES GUYS things for awhile but in the face of this lie you should at least be a bit critical. Now you are like saying nah thats fine, town players lie about being millers all the time because its good play??????????
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA?
I think you are set on defending Zeks and attacking Palmer. Things in this thread, votes, cases, lies, posts, whatever will not stop you from doing that.
If palmer is town and Zeks is scum you are literally playing and posting in such a hugely horrible way. Can you prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that palmer isn't town and that zeks is town?
I just see it as so much more logical to say Palmer is town till proven otherwise and no proof is there and that zeks is scum because he lied pretty dang hard core there.
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On November 30 2011 11:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:17 vaderseven wrote:However you ignore the people posting fucking blatantly in your face red. The cases on the others are trash. I offer you analysis and push a target. Yes I latch on and don't let go, thats how you play. You are the one that came off as blantat almost like to perfect to be true. Thats why I decided I had to vote for you over others. Latching on and not letting go is not good play. You state that like it is. Tunneling in and then allowing your thoughts to progress is fine, thats what alot of people do. Choosing someone day 1 and then not letting go... especially when he has what is possibly the strongest role in the game is just BAD play that you can hide behind. .....ROLE DOES NOT = ALIGNMENT. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. IF HE IS RED THEN THE MAFIA HAS IT. I have analyzed him and proven why I believe he is red. His role does not make him town. For fucks sake. He is near being offed like I am and rather than posting near the end trying to help anyone he martyred himself and fucking left the thread? Thats townlike? Jesus, roles do not win fucking mafia games, players do.
from what I understand, he went to sleep because it's late in Europe.
He was actually very active until about a half hour before you came into the thread. No one is blaming you for being gone while you were at work. Let's not discuss activity patterns here, since clearly activity patterns are not an alignment tell for either you nor Palmar.
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Can all the people voting players with only 1 vote decide between the top canidates please? unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your target is mafia, they probally are not getting lynched today.
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On November 30 2011 11:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Bugs I have quoted the same lie and bolded it twice. If you are choosing not to read it then your a fucking tard. I posted it like 2 pages ago, filter me and find it. You ask me to take in the entire thread and you aren't even reading? jesus.
I never asked you to take in the entire thread. Now you're mixing what I'm saying with what Vader is saying.
Can't handle the question? Why are you dodging like a politician?
You're defending Zeks's lie but you can't even explain in one line what Palmar lied about. This is probably the most scummy thing anyone has done all game.
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On November 30 2011 11:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:17 vaderseven wrote:However you ignore the people posting fucking blatantly in your face red. The cases on the others are trash. I offer you analysis and push a target. Yes I latch on and don't let go, thats how you play. You are the one that came off as blantat almost like to perfect to be true. Thats why I decided I had to vote for you over others. Latching on and not letting go is not good play. You state that like it is. Tunneling in and then allowing your thoughts to progress is fine, thats what alot of people do. Choosing someone day 1 and then not letting go... especially when he has what is possibly the strongest role in the game is just BAD play that you can hide behind. .....ROLE DOES NOT = ALIGNMENT. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. IF HE IS RED THEN THE MAFIA HAS IT. I have analyzed him and proven why I believe he is red. His role does not make him town. For fucks sake. He is near being offed like I am and rather than posting near the end trying to help anyone he martyred himself and fucking left the thread? Thats townlike? Jesus, roles do not win fucking mafia games, players do.
No his role doesnt mean he is town. But it does mean you shouldn't be trying to prove he is scum no matter what and thats what you have done this game.
In fact, the only players I could see wanting to do that ARE THE SCUM because they can't night kill him till some Bodyguard(s?) are killed. Add to that the power of his role and you can see why I might see a very mafia motive behind your weird play.
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On November 30 2011 11:23 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 11:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Bugs I have quoted the same lie and bolded it twice. If you are choosing not to read it then your a fucking tard. I posted it like 2 pages ago, filter me and find it. You ask me to take in the entire thread and you aren't even reading? jesus. I never asked you to take in the entire thread. Now you're mixing what I'm saying with what Vader is saying. Can't handle the question? Why are you dodging like a politician? You're defending Zeks's lie but you can't even explain in one line what Palmar lied about. This is probably the most scummy thing anyone has done all game.
Filter me. I already explained it. Why would I continuously quote the same posts? Why would you continuously ask the same questions? Are you hoping I say it differently so that you can find a fault in my reasoning to turn it on me? If so go back and do it. I have stated my case, shown the lie and if you opt to refuse to read my posts then so be it.
A dodge is a dodge if I never did what I have said I have. I have already done it so how am I dodging? I am telling you where to find it.
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