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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 23:34 GMT
#3501
On November 30 2011 08:28 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 07:32 vaderseven wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:26 annul wrote:
by the way...

there should be 144 total votes cast (69 * 2 + 6 for mayor). there are currently 97. we are likely to have ~20 modkills if people dont get their shit in in the next 4.5 hours.


lol thats awful. I dont even know what to say.

This game was almost certainlly balanced for 80 people which means this much inactive town pretty much is gg with no effort ezmode for scum.



Scumslip


oh finally something that really makes sense.

a beautiful vigtarget you found there!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 29 2011 23:35 GMT
#3502
On November 30 2011 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:24 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:16 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:01 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:43 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:40 redFF wrote:
BC is town, all these last second votes on him reek of scum trying to outvote the palmar wagon.


I think you're wrong red... I mean I know I am town, wbg is town. Coag is scaring me though. Actually I am reconsidering my vote only because of him lol

I feel like every time someone has said, "I know I am town" they've not been town. For posterity: Supersoft for that and for the phenominal uselessness of this post:
On November 30 2011 07:35 supersoft wrote:
our medics failed night1. Radfields death, syllos death, jackals death.
especially syllo and jackal were the most obvious townies we had.
Really painful to see these guys die unprotected.

A whole game day after the fact? What's the point of this except to confuse people and muddy the water? SS is pretty mafia, imo.

And Steveling for this:
On November 30 2011 02:15 Steveling wrote:
Being off to uni for some hours and came back to see 20 more pages filled. Da fuck.

We should really push for annul to be modkilled. It is justified after all. He is active and his filter regardless if he flips green or red will show us the alingment of some people. It's a free lynch he gave us with that edit mistake.


But for today, since neither of these guys are up for a vote, I think we have a good choice between Palmar, BC, WBG, and Risen. Earlier, I voted for WBG and Risen, because they both made posts that made it really likely that both were mafia. But since I posted a few pages ago before going out and now, both have made a good deal of sense. So I'm a little worried about changing from them, but I'm willing to give them their way today, and if they're wrong, we can properly lynch them tomorrow. Both have voted for BC, and both Supersoft and Steveling have voted for Palmar. This seems pretty straight forward to me, one side is mafia, and the other is town.

So I'll switch my votes for today from WBG and Risen to BC and Supersoft. But I wonder if WBG, Risen, and Palmar would address their groupthink all of a sudden, and whether they would admit now whether they would consent to be lynched tomorrow if they are wrong about BC. I wonder if they would make such a pledge? Let's see.



You're scum, I've thought so for a while.

You switch your votes to the leading bandwagon whenever it's most convenient for you.

You don't say anything of substance in your posts, and you're only around at certain critical moments to make it look as if you're contributing something.

Your vote combinations don't make any sense, and are an indication that you aren't reading the thread very clearly.

You use really bad logic to think that scum only vote together and only town vote together. This is unsubstantiated until someone flips and voting order is never that strict. Otherwise, this game wouldn't be about behavior analysis, we could catch all 16 scum based on vote analysis alone.

You accuse me of using groupthink with Risen and Palmar, yet you are the epitome of groupthink. You've followed the bandwagon everywhere it's gone. You haven't made an original case on one person yet.

You're scum.

You're silly.

I want to make my vote count. If the town is not willing to vote for Risen or yourself (who both made huge posting errors) than I will switch my vote to make sure it influences the vote. There's no point in voting on principle, especially when half the town seems inactive. You want me to stand on my old votes if they're going to be useless, and not take a position when there is a ton riding on this vote? That's nonsense, and doesn't help anyone.

When I post and when I don't has nothing to do with anything. I've been quite clear about my inactivity at the beginning of the game, and I don't feel I need to explain my activity now. I can't be expected to stay at my computer 24/7, I have to eat, meet friends, do work, ect. Using someone's schedule against them was the epitome of a shoddy argument back when I played more, and it still probably is.

I finished reading the thread, deleted Ace's rogue post, and then thought for a long time about what I was going to do with my votes. After reading your analysis, it struck me that it was quite well done, and I think a compelling case can be made for BC. He has not been as active as one would expect, and has backed down from confrontations that could make him the center of attention. I think there is a better case for him than for Palmar, and have never supported the wagon on Palmar. I'm still suspicious of you though, as well as Risen for your slip ups earlier. The only reason you've gotten away with those is because they happened hours ago. Well, I'll give you a one day grace period, and if you're wrong I will push for your lynch tomorrow without hesitation or switching. I won't be fooled twice.


Fair enough, this post is actually reasonable. However, you actually make another logical fallacy at the end.

If I'm wrong about BC or prpl, that just makes me wrong. It doesn't make me scum nor does it make me more likely to be scum.

Townies are wrong all the time, because no one's reads are perfect. People also get lynched all the time for all sorts of reasons.

Risen for now is unlikely to be scum IMO. The manner in which he posts are far more important than "scumslips." In addition, I never scumslipped. Sinani pointed out what he thought was a scumslip and, quite frankly, what he pointed out was more of a townslip than anything else.


The reason I'm worried about you is because (A) I already suspect you, and (B) this whole BC thing came up very quickly. You've wrapped it up nicely and convincingly, but that doesn't guarantee success. I wanted to see how serious you actually were about your accusations. I don't like to hop on sudden bandwagons, but I will if necessary. Doesn't prevent me of being suspicious of said bandwagon.

Do you deny that you, and Palmar both made extremely similar points at the same time? If you are both mafia, then it's completely plausible that; faced with the prospect of losing your most important member, you gambled on throwing a ton of weight behind a single suspect to save Palmar.

Just because I think that's a less likely scenario doesn't mean I'll forget that it's still possible.


You're asking for something that entails unreasonable certainty.

No one will ever be certain about anything that happens in a game of mafia, except when people die and reveal their alignments.

Sure, it's certainly possible Palmar and I are scumbuddies with "extremely similar points" posting at the same time. Both of us have already pointed out why it would be incredibly moronic for us to do that if we were both scum. In fact, anyone can see that. If I or Palmar are seriously wrong at any given point in the game we will get lynched or shot. If one of us flips scum, I can guarantee that the other one will bite the bullet as well.

I know I am town. Palmar and I often think alike when we are town, and this is a completely plausible explanation for why we could both be town and be thinking similar things.

What's funny about all of this is that several players have accused Palmar and I of thinking the same things, whereas Ace, who basically began the crusades against myself and Palmar, said that we were thinking very different things.

You all can't have it both ways, that's just self-contradictory.
I think Ace was playing like a moron, I don't and didn't subscribe to anything he said.

I do think though that you two players are experienced enough to be willing to take a big risk to save Palmar if you both were mafia. Palmar was about to be lynched, I thought, and if you were mafia and had the mayor position, it might be well worth it to take extraordinary steps to defend him.

Let's see how your analysis turns out tonight, and then we can talk tomorrow. We're both in agreement about tonight's plan of action and it's late here in Stockholm.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 23:37 GMT
#3503
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 29 2011 23:38 GMT
#3504
On November 30 2011 08:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:18 layabout wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:16 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:01 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:43 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:40 redFF wrote:
BC is town, all these last second votes on him reek of scum trying to outvote the palmar wagon.


I think you're wrong red... I mean I know I am town, wbg is town. Coag is scaring me though. Actually I am reconsidering my vote only because of him lol

I feel like every time someone has said, "I know I am town" they've not been town. For posterity: Supersoft for that and for the phenominal uselessness of this post:
On November 30 2011 07:35 supersoft wrote:
our medics failed night1. Radfields death, syllos death, jackals death.
especially syllo and jackal were the most obvious townies we had.
Really painful to see these guys die unprotected.

A whole game day after the fact? What's the point of this except to confuse people and muddy the water? SS is pretty mafia, imo.

And Steveling for this:
On November 30 2011 02:15 Steveling wrote:
Being off to uni for some hours and came back to see 20 more pages filled. Da fuck.

We should really push for annul to be modkilled. It is justified after all. He is active and his filter regardless if he flips green or red will show us the alingment of some people. It's a free lynch he gave us with that edit mistake.


But for today, since neither of these guys are up for a vote, I think we have a good choice between Palmar, BC, WBG, and Risen. Earlier, I voted for WBG and Risen, because they both made posts that made it really likely that both were mafia. But since I posted a few pages ago before going out and now, both have made a good deal of sense. So I'm a little worried about changing from them, but I'm willing to give them their way today, and if they're wrong, we can properly lynch them tomorrow. Both have voted for BC, and both Supersoft and Steveling have voted for Palmar. This seems pretty straight forward to me, one side is mafia, and the other is town.

So I'll switch my votes for today from WBG and Risen to BC and Supersoft. But I wonder if WBG, Risen, and Palmar would address their groupthink all of a sudden, and whether they would admit now whether they would consent to be lynched tomorrow if they are wrong about BC. I wonder if they would make such a pledge? Let's see.



You're scum, I've thought so for a while.

You switch your votes to the leading bandwagon whenever it's most convenient for you.

You don't say anything of substance in your posts, and you're only around at certain critical moments to make it look as if you're contributing something.

Your vote combinations don't make any sense, and are an indication that you aren't reading the thread very clearly.

You use really bad logic to think that scum only vote together and only town vote together. This is unsubstantiated until someone flips and voting order is never that strict. Otherwise, this game wouldn't be about behavior analysis, we could catch all 16 scum based on vote analysis alone.

You accuse me of using groupthink with Risen and Palmar, yet you are the epitome of groupthink. You've followed the bandwagon everywhere it's gone. You haven't made an original case on one person yet.

You're scum.

You're silly.

I want to make my vote count. If the town is not willing to vote for Risen or yourself (who both made huge posting errors) than I will switch my vote to make sure it influences the vote. There's no point in voting on principle, especially when half the town seems inactive. You want me to stand on my old votes if they're going to be useless, and not take a position when there is a ton riding on this vote? That's nonsense, and doesn't help anyone.

When I post and when I don't has nothing to do with anything. I've been quite clear about my inactivity at the beginning of the game, and I don't feel I need to explain my activity now. I can't be expected to stay at my computer 24/7, I have to eat, meet friends, do work, ect. Using someone's schedule against them was the epitome of a shoddy argument back when I played more, and it still probably is.

I finished reading the thread, deleted Ace's rogue post, and then thought for a long time about what I was going to do with my votes. After reading your analysis, it struck me that it was quite well done, and I think a compelling case can be made for BC. He has not been as active as one would expect, and has backed down from confrontations that could make him the center of attention. I think there is a better case for him than for Palmar, and have never supported the wagon on Palmar. I'm still suspicious of you though, as well as Risen for your slip ups earlier. The only reason you've gotten away with those is because they happened hours ago. Well, I'll give you a one day grace period, and if you're wrong I will push for your lynch tomorrow without hesitation or switching. I won't be fooled twice.

can you respond to my posts please?
with an answer
I already answered your posts twice as throughly as I knew how. You continued to troll me by playing dumb. You either explain what you actually mean, or you drop the act. I'm not going to explain myself with another essay only to have you made a two line response saying that I didn't answer your question.

can someone not involved in this discussion look at the posts and settle it?
there is no point in my asking for trehugger to give me a valid answer and there no point in him responding to me or this
it would simply serve to derail the thread and doesn't help anybody find scum or decide who to vote for. i also find it hard to believe that my analysis of him would be entirely objective as i am calling him scum
this will mostly be useful for potential scum hunting tomorrow

does anybody believe that treehugger has adequately provided reasoning and evidence or in fact any analysis that directly answers my original question. i don't think he has and i think that, would suggest he is mafia
do you think his responses imply an anti-town agenda? (i do)
can you think of a sensible explanation that involves us both being town and these exchanges occuring?(like an obvious misunderstanding)
more than one response would also be helpful

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i hope your town treehugger because it like your writ-ups
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#3505
As mafia I don't tend to do things like that. I only take big risks if they have huge rewards. If I were scum and I managed to save Palmar by lynching two townies in his stead I'd get instantly shot that night. That's a massive risk to take and almost no reward, since as scum I don't generally allow my teammates to win for me.

You haven't played in a game in which I have been scum, but I am incredibly independent as scum. The last two games I played as scum I nearly won them entirely by myself. Palmar had something like 20+ votes on him when I began the campaign to get prpl and BC lynched. If I were scum and I saw that situation I'd probably simply bus Palmar because it wouldn't be worth the risk to save him.

In fact, if we were scum together, bussing him would make me last way longer because it would gain me a shit ton of town cred.

It's generally true that I dislike bussing, but I don't dislike it so much that I would shoot myself in the foot just to save a scumbuddy I can't trust to win the game for me.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 29 2011 23:41 GMT
#3506
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 23:41 GMT
#3507
EBWODP:
On November 30 2011 08:35 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:24 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:16 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:01 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:43 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 07:40 redFF wrote:
BC is town, all these last second votes on him reek of scum trying to outvote the palmar wagon.


I think you're wrong red... I mean I know I am town, wbg is town. Coag is scaring me though. Actually I am reconsidering my vote only because of him lol

I feel like every time someone has said, "I know I am town" they've not been town. For posterity: Supersoft for that and for the phenominal uselessness of this post:
On November 30 2011 07:35 supersoft wrote:
our medics failed night1. Radfields death, syllos death, jackals death.
especially syllo and jackal were the most obvious townies we had.
Really painful to see these guys die unprotected.

A whole game day after the fact? What's the point of this except to confuse people and muddy the water? SS is pretty mafia, imo.

And Steveling for this:
On November 30 2011 02:15 Steveling wrote:
Being off to uni for some hours and came back to see 20 more pages filled. Da fuck.

We should really push for annul to be modkilled. It is justified after all. He is active and his filter regardless if he flips green or red will show us the alingment of some people. It's a free lynch he gave us with that edit mistake.


But for today, since neither of these guys are up for a vote, I think we have a good choice between Palmar, BC, WBG, and Risen. Earlier, I voted for WBG and Risen, because they both made posts that made it really likely that both were mafia. But since I posted a few pages ago before going out and now, both have made a good deal of sense. So I'm a little worried about changing from them, but I'm willing to give them their way today, and if they're wrong, we can properly lynch them tomorrow. Both have voted for BC, and both Supersoft and Steveling have voted for Palmar. This seems pretty straight forward to me, one side is mafia, and the other is town.

So I'll switch my votes for today from WBG and Risen to BC and Supersoft. But I wonder if WBG, Risen, and Palmar would address their groupthink all of a sudden, and whether they would admit now whether they would consent to be lynched tomorrow if they are wrong about BC. I wonder if they would make such a pledge? Let's see.



You're scum, I've thought so for a while.

You switch your votes to the leading bandwagon whenever it's most convenient for you.

You don't say anything of substance in your posts, and you're only around at certain critical moments to make it look as if you're contributing something.

Your vote combinations don't make any sense, and are an indication that you aren't reading the thread very clearly.

You use really bad logic to think that scum only vote together and only town vote together. This is unsubstantiated until someone flips and voting order is never that strict. Otherwise, this game wouldn't be about behavior analysis, we could catch all 16 scum based on vote analysis alone.

You accuse me of using groupthink with Risen and Palmar, yet you are the epitome of groupthink. You've followed the bandwagon everywhere it's gone. You haven't made an original case on one person yet.

You're scum.

You're silly.

I want to make my vote count. If the town is not willing to vote for Risen or yourself (who both made huge posting errors) than I will switch my vote to make sure it influences the vote. There's no point in voting on principle, especially when half the town seems inactive. You want me to stand on my old votes if they're going to be useless, and not take a position when there is a ton riding on this vote? That's nonsense, and doesn't help anyone.

When I post and when I don't has nothing to do with anything. I've been quite clear about my inactivity at the beginning of the game, and I don't feel I need to explain my activity now. I can't be expected to stay at my computer 24/7, I have to eat, meet friends, do work, ect. Using someone's schedule against them was the epitome of a shoddy argument back when I played more, and it still probably is.

I finished reading the thread, deleted Ace's rogue post, and then thought for a long time about what I was going to do with my votes. After reading your analysis, it struck me that it was quite well done, and I think a compelling case can be made for BC. He has not been as active as one would expect, and has backed down from confrontations that could make him the center of attention. I think there is a better case for him than for Palmar, and have never supported the wagon on Palmar. I'm still suspicious of you though, as well as Risen for your slip ups earlier. The only reason you've gotten away with those is because they happened hours ago. Well, I'll give you a one day grace period, and if you're wrong I will push for your lynch tomorrow without hesitation or switching. I won't be fooled twice.


Fair enough, this post is actually reasonable. However, you actually make another logical fallacy at the end.

If I'm wrong about BC or prpl, that just makes me wrong. It doesn't make me scum nor does it make me more likely to be scum.

Townies are wrong all the time, because no one's reads are perfect. People also get lynched all the time for all sorts of reasons.

Risen for now is unlikely to be scum IMO. The manner in which he posts are far more important than "scumslips." In addition, I never scumslipped. Sinani pointed out what he thought was a scumslip and, quite frankly, what he pointed out was more of a townslip than anything else.


The reason I'm worried about you is because (A) I already suspect you, and (B) this whole BC thing came up very quickly. You've wrapped it up nicely and convincingly, but that doesn't guarantee success. I wanted to see how serious you actually were about your accusations. I don't like to hop on sudden bandwagons, but I will if necessary. Doesn't prevent me of being suspicious of said bandwagon.

Do you deny that you, and Palmar both made extremely similar points at the same time? If you are both mafia, then it's completely plausible that; faced with the prospect of losing your most important member, you gambled on throwing a ton of weight behind a single suspect to save Palmar.

Just because I think that's a less likely scenario doesn't mean I'll forget that it's still possible.


You're asking for something that entails unreasonable certainty.

No one will ever be certain about anything that happens in a game of mafia, except when people die and reveal their alignments.

Sure, it's certainly possible Palmar and I are scumbuddies with "extremely similar points" posting at the same time. Both of us have already pointed out why it would be incredibly moronic for us to do that if we were both scum. In fact, anyone can see that. If I or Palmar are seriously wrong at any given point in the game we will get lynched or shot. If one of us flips scum, I can guarantee that the other one will bite the bullet as well.

I know I am town. Palmar and I often think alike when we are town, and this is a completely plausible explanation for why we could both be town and be thinking similar things.

What's funny about all of this is that several players have accused Palmar and I of thinking the same things, whereas Ace, who basically began the crusades against myself and Palmar, said that we were thinking very different things.

You all can't have it both ways, that's just self-contradictory.
I think Ace was playing like a moron, I don't and didn't subscribe to anything he said.

I do think though that you two players are experienced enough to be willing to take a big risk to save Palmar if you both were mafia. Palmar was about to be lynched, I thought, and if you were mafia and had the mayor position, it might be well worth it to take extraordinary steps to defend him.

Let's see how your analysis turns out tonight, and then we can talk tomorrow. We're both in agreement about tonight's plan of action and it's late here in Stockholm.



As mafia I don't tend to do things like that. I only take big risks if they have huge rewards. If I were scum and I managed to save Palmar by lynching two townies in his stead I'd get instantly shot that night. That's a massive risk to take and almost no reward, since as scum I don't generally allow my teammates to win for me.

You haven't played in a game in which I have been scum, but I am incredibly independent as scum. The last two games I played as scum I nearly won them entirely by myself. Palmar had something like 20+ votes on him when I began the campaign to get prpl and BC lynched. If I were scum and I saw that situation I'd probably simply bus Palmar because it wouldn't be worth the risk to save him.

In fact, if we were scum together, bussing him would make me last way longer because it would gain me a shit ton of town cred.

It's generally true that I dislike bussing, but I don't dislike it so much that I would shoot myself in the foot just to save a scumbuddy I can't trust to win the game for me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 29 2011 23:41 GMT
#3508
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 29 2011 23:47 GMT
#3509
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
November 29 2011 23:49 GMT
#3510
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


Voting for someone you'd rather lynch, but have them not be lynched is MUCH BETTER than voting someone you'd rather not vote for.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 23:49 GMT
#3511
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


If you would rather not vote for either....why is your vote on Palmar??

like seriously my head is gonna explode because of the things some of you are saying
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 29 2011 23:50 GMT
#3512
On November 30 2011 08:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


If you would rather not vote for either....why is your vote on Palmar??

like seriously my head is gonna explode because of the things some of you are saying


because I want my vote to count
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
November 29 2011 23:50 GMT
#3513
after some reading i finally made up my mind

Vote #1
goes to steveling. why? The argument about him a few pages back by layabout takes up a lot of arguments that i see is valid. maybe he isn't going to be lyncht today but very well. i support this lynch and i will show it by voteing on him.

Vote #2
Goes to BC. Why? i feel that i need put a chip in who to lynch between BC and Palmer. iam not the analystic man of this game and therefore no great analysis around it but by reading some of the arguments and the filters. My heart,brain and dick says BC. Can't really point out what that makes me choose this expect it feels the best.




risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 29 2011 23:50 GMT
#3514
zeks is a townie for sure. the lack of vote withdraws suggests so atleast. We should look into that pile.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 29 2011 23:52 GMT
#3515
On November 30 2011 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


If you would rather not vote for either....why is your vote on Palmar??

like seriously my head is gonna explode because of the things some of you are saying


because I want my vote to count


so you want to make it count by providing your vote to someone you don't want to lynch.

yeah dude, cause that makes like no sense whatsoever or anything.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 29 2011 23:53 GMT
#3516
On November 30 2011 08:50 risk.nuke wrote:
zeks is a townie for sure. the lack of vote withdraws suggests so atleast. We should look into that pile.


Agreed.
Computer says mafia
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 29 2011 23:56 GMT
#3517
On November 30 2011 08:49 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


Voting for someone you'd rather lynch, but have them not be lynched is MUCH BETTER than voting someone you'd rather not vote for.


Except when you have a reason such as you REALLY dont want someone with a certain role to be lynched.

COUGH PALMER AND HIS 3 VOTE ABILITY COUGH.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 29 2011 23:58 GMT
#3518
On November 30 2011 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 08:50 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:47 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:37 supersoft wrote:
On November 30 2011 08:29 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote Risen
##vote Palmar


my last post today:

F*** YOU STEALTHVOTER SCUM I WISH I WAS A VIG
makes me so angry i can barely sleep! also lost my iphone sble wtf!!!


Risen is no longer a target (I still think hes scum) but my vote will be rendered useless if its on a candidate that isn't actually going to be lynched. Therefore I picked the greater of 2 evils in Palmer over BC. I think BC is less scummy than Palmer


why?


Right now its a battle between BC and Palmer for the second lynching. I would rather not vote for either. I voted Palmar for mayor and he has failed the promises he made during his campaign. Also, he is constantly getting on anyone that wants to vote for him aggressively. Also, I still remember the Ace vs. Palmer debacle and there is still some truth to Ace's claims. BC hasn't really lead me to believe he is scum thus far


If you would rather not vote for either....why is your vote on Palmar??

like seriously my head is gonna explode because of the things some of you are saying


because I want my vote to count


so you want to make it count by providing your vote to someone you don't want to lynch.

yeah dude, cause that makes like no sense whatsoever or anything.


BC or PALMAR is going to be lynched... why not vote the one who i believe is scummier? so I can sit back and watch BC flip town and be pissed that we woulda shoulda coulda voted Palmar? No.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 30 2011 00:00 GMT
#3519
Can someone post that list of filter links again I lost it.

-_-
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 30 2011 00:02 GMT
#3520
yeap, i still made more sense then alsmost everybody
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