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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 18 2011 19:51 GMT
#261
those elections are forever right? So let's say some crazy people are going to make me mayor, I'd be mayor until I'm dead right?
The mayor is kind of another *blue* (that is if he is a townie :p) for town right? So if he dies he's gone forever and no possibility to get a new one, right?

Never played with elections so I'm better off asking before the game starts :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#262
Question about self votes

Why is this allowed? It seems to be that in certain circumstances this would effectively be akin to abstaining. For example, at the end of the day if there are no votes for me, I can effectively abstain from the vote (and from pissing anyone off) by voting for myself. Technically doesn't that break rule 6?

Also, couldn't the entire town just decide to self vote every night?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 18 2011 20:09 GMT
#263
On November 19 2011 05:03 TheToast wrote:
if there are no votes for me, I can effectively abstain from the vote (and from pissing anyone off) by voting for myself.


You're probably going to draw more attention voting for yourself, than voting elsewhere.

On November 19 2011 05:03 TheToast wrote:
Also, couldn't the entire town just decide to self vote every night?


How would that make sense though? Town wants to lynch scum, not give up an entire cycle and go through another round of scum kp.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 18 2011 20:10 GMT
#264
On November 19 2011 05:03 TheToast wrote:
Question about self votes

Why is this allowed? It seems to be that in certain circumstances this would effectively be akin to abstaining. For example, at the end of the day if there are no votes for me, I can effectively abstain from the vote (and from pissing anyone off) by voting for myself. Technically doesn't that break rule 6?

Also, couldn't the entire town just decide to self vote every night?

They could, but according to the veterans here you should have enough info by day 2 (when the voting for lynches begin) to identify people as mafia. Whether this is true or not doesn't matter, because you know somebody's gonna accuse somebody of being scum on day 2 and then people are going to analyze the shit out of it and vote for scum because they've got a sure thing.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that a mass self-vote would be good for a town that doesn't know who the scum are, but somebody's always got an idea about who's scum.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 18 2011 20:13 GMT
#265
Honestly if you vote yourself someone will probably vig you because they think you're dumb.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#266
On November 19 2011 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Honestly if you vote yourself someone will probably vig you because they think you're dumb.

See this is something I don't understand right here.

I see TL mafia forum veterans puffing up their chest about vig-ing (vigilante-ing? viging?) mafia, but I also see conversation about vigilante shots being best used against lurkers and dumb people.

Which is it?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#267
On November 19 2011 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Honestly if you vote yourself someone will probably vig you because they think you're dumb.

that's kind of what happened last game :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#268
While it is possible for no-lynching to have its merits, its problem is you have to go through the same exact day again, but after scum Kp has been aplied. and chances are scum are going to kill people that wont give away any info when they are dead.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 18 2011 20:41 GMT
#269
Bodyguards will be chosen at random from vanilla players (vanilla townies and mafia goons), mafia bodyguards do not actually protect the mayor/sheriff. Bodyguards will be notified of their status.


What is the point of having mafia bodyguard if they don't actually protect anyone?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 18 2011 20:42 GMT
#270
On November 19 2011 05:31 GreYMisT wrote:
While it is possible for no-lynching to have its merits, its problem is you have to go through the same exact day again, but after scum Kp has been aplied. and chances are scum are going to kill people that wont give away any info when they are dead.


Ah, I see...

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 18 2011 20:47 GMT
#271
On November 19 2011 05:41 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
Bodyguards will be chosen at random from vanilla players (vanilla townies and mafia goons), mafia bodyguards do not actually protect the mayor/sheriff. Bodyguards will be notified of their status.


What is the point of having mafia bodyguard if they don't actually protect anyone?


because as the mafia you want one of your own as a bodygaurd, so you know that you can safely shoot the mayor. Also it sets you up to claim bodygaurd to avoid a lynch.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 18 2011 20:56 GMT
#272
On November 19 2011 05:23 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 05:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Honestly if you vote yourself someone will probably vig you because they think you're dumb.

See this is something I don't understand right here.

I see TL mafia forum veterans puffing up their chest about vig-ing (vigilante-ing? viging?) mafia, but I also see conversation about vigilante shots being best used against lurkers and dumb people.

Which is it?


well not all players think the same, and often blue roles aren't in the hands of good players (lol)

so if you do something dumb there's a strong chance a vig will choose to shoot you just because they want that information.

Vets can't control blues, they can only influence them. Unless vets are blues themselves, of course.

Vigilante shots are best used against lurking scummy players though, which often results in a bad, dumb townie flipping because they decided to fuck their wincon and become a big pile of useless.
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
November 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#273
over / under: 10 mod kills?

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#274
nein. Vigs are best for shooting 100% mafia. That is, if you were limited to 1-2 bullets.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 18 2011 22:00 GMT
#275
On November 19 2011 06:55 zeks wrote:
over / under: 10 mod kills?


Depends on leniency, but I'd say over. :-D
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
November 18 2011 22:00 GMT
#276
On November 19 2011 06:55 zeks wrote:
over / under: 10 mod kills?



Over. 13.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
spartan N30
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
November 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#277
so when should we expect the game to begin?
"There is no spoon"
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#278
Holy 80 people bumatlarge batman!

(I'm calling under 10, and I can be available for occasional advice/coaching if you want GM )
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
November 18 2011 23:06 GMT
#279
Vig advice: if you're good, you'll know what to do (some vets prefer to vig lurkers, some prefer to vig mafia. The better analysists usually vig mafia). If you are new/not good DO NOT ASK WHO SHOULD BE VIGGED

Vig can be a very stressful role because if you mis-shoot you will have let the town down. Take your time and carefully choose a target. I generally will just shoot who I think is scum when town is in a position where we can afford a loss (ie, we aren't at lylo). I'm not always right, but I'm usually not lynched in response because I make sure I analyze that person carefully, post my evidence and push for their lynch.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 18 2011 23:31 GMT
#280
On November 19 2011 07:04 spartan N30 wrote:
so when should we expect the game to begin?

Monday.
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