EPTTL Mafia XLVII - Page 138
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Serejai
6007 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
epic scumslip rofl. The clues look way too obvious to be correct imo. incoming scum@large analysis | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:06 xtfftc wrote: However! http://alexandriava.gov/recreation/info/default.aspx?id=25018 The tooltip underneath the photo you found says "wooden baton", so it's still not a "wooden bat". ^^ I loled. Can you admit that the evidence is there or I need to post a ''wooden bat'' image? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:08 Kenpachi wrote: shit fuck. the only person i can see clearly being mafia is Risen epic scumslip rofl. The clues look way too obvious to be correct imo. incoming scum@large analysis Please tell me why it is not better just to vig him? Then please tell me why you didn't think of this already? | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:07 Serejai wrote: "bat" is short for "baton" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bat the wooden club used in certain games, as baseball and cricket, to strike the ball. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baton a staff, club, or truncheon, especially one serving as a mark of office or authority. The wooden baton Steveling found was used in the 1900s and the baseball bat is a typical gangster weapon. No one uses "bat" for the weapon the police use. On November 29 2011 07:08 Steveling wrote: I loled. Can you admit that the evidence is there or I need to post a ''wooden bat'' image? When I posted a comparisson, I didn't handpick just one photo but linked to all of the Google Image results. Curious why you didn't. Here, in case you missed it. I am done with discussing lack of relation between the clue and the drawing in my profile. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
if palmar is town and the sheriff is mafia we're fucked, game over. why risk this? and if palmar is mafia, at least he is popping double lynches, which for the time being is more town-oriented than anything else. we pop double lynches today because we have HARD CLUES that point in the direction of players like zeks (100% positively he's red based on the clues. easiest decision to make possible in this game), etc. if you NEEEEEEED to vote someone not clue based, then you need to do this with ONE of your votes, and the other must go to zeks. be smart and take the automatic red hits right now and we might actually drop them to 7 KP. zeks is an automatic red hit. imo so is xtf. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Do you think that Palmar and BC are both town? If you answer this question with "no", who do you think is scummier and why do you think that? I urge you to answer these questions in the next post you make. Plus i want to hear your reasoning behind that. You don't have to write a novel. I want to see something like: "No, I think Palmar is scummier. The main point for me is his hesitation to nominate prplhz erandorr on that scummy top10list. / his overall passive playstyle / the horrible mislynch on a townie day1 / whatever... or No, I think it's BC. The main point for me are the circumstances of his election like / his DT plan he probably knew would never work / his hesitation to call anyone scummy / whatever" I believe that this is the main questioning we have to solve. If you add a quote, that'd be awesome: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=87086 Palmars filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=10200 BCs filter  | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:11 prplhz wrote: Please tell me why it is not better just to vig him? Then please tell me why you didn't think of this already? what? I would prefer to lynch when im confident and vig when i have to. id like to say i lied. i gtg for an hour. ill try to get my analysis finished when i come back home lol | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
palmar is helping town even if he is mafia by popping double lynches. so he lives until tomorrow when we see if he pops double lynch again. stop derailing. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:23 annul wrote: it doesnt matter if i think palmar or BC is town or mafia. palmar is helping town even if he is mafia by popping double lynches. so he lives until tomorrow when we see if he pops double lynch again. stop derailing. on which page is your zeks-clue-confirmation? also: wtf. Commentate on that topic already. You have no reason not to write one paragraph about one of these guys. We need to start figuring that question out. We need to start early, because we want as many people give their opinion as possible. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:21 supersoft wrote: I want everyone to answer this question please: Do you think that Palmar and BC are both town? If you answer this question with "no", who do you think is scummier and why do you think that? I urge you to answer these questions in the next post you make. Plus i want to hear your reasoning behind that. You don't have to write a novel. I want to see something like: "No, I think Palmar is scummier. The main point for me is his hesitation to nominate prplhz erandorr on that scummy top10list. / his overall passive playstyle / the horrible mislynch on a townie day1 / whatever... or No, I think it's BC. The main point for me are the circumstances of his election like / his DT plan he probably knew would never work / his hesitation to call anyone scummy / whatever" I believe that this is the main questioning we have to solve. If you add a quote, that'd be awesome: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=87086 Palmars filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=10200 BCs filter People need to get off this if person is scum/town that means player y is ___. I could see them being town or scum and I could see one being town or the other scum. The rules and conformable info ivhave access to support that. Heading home from work now, my next posts will have my thoughts on who is scummy. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:21 supersoft wrote: I want everyone to answer this question please: Do you think that Palmar and BC are both town? If you answer this question with "no", who do you think is scummier and why do you think that? I urge you to answer these questions in the next post you make. Plus i want to hear your reasoning behind that. You don't have to write a novel. I want to see something like: "No, I think Palmar is scummier. The main point for me is his hesitation to nominate prplhz erandorr on that scummy top10list. / his overall passive playstyle / the horrible mislynch on a townie day1 / whatever... or No, I think it's BC. The main point for me are the circumstances of his election like / his DT plan he probably knew would never work / his hesitation to call anyone scummy / whatever" I believe that this is the main questioning we have to solve. If you add a quote, that'd be awesome: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=87086 Palmars filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=10200 BCs filter I think my favorite part is the way you are trying to get everyone to do the analysis, while you yourself are avoiding it. reading through to a previous post of yours, you seem very wishy washy on BC being scum or Palmar being scum. I'd be very interested to hear your own opinion on the subject. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12428123 @Palmar These two statements do not seem to correlate with what you have in your personal diary, Mr. Palmar. Made the effort to call out Palmar for something generic mafia is unlikely to pay attention to or point at. However, a newbie town is likely to do precisely this: go look at Palmar's profile and look for factual irregularities instead of trying to analyse his logic. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12474384 Based too much of his analysis on whether people agree or disagree with the DT plan. Considering that the newbies were giving way too much praise to the plan, I can see why he would focus on it. Accusing Palmar for something Palmar did not do and then proceeding with his accusations based on the assumption that Palmar is mafia is a huge red exclamation mark though. The way he writes sounds as if he's trying to step up and pressure the experienced players. He bristles up a lot while having not much to say in his next few posts as well. Stuff like "typical propaganda", "Duh......", "This is a legitimate question, answer it.", "Excellent logic.", "Do I have the potential of ruining your mafia plans in the future?, "No, really, I want you to answer this. Do I?", etc. What's important is that it's not like he is trolling. My Sandro's case did not need a lot of text. It was an opposition to your campaign, which I supported. Did you want me to cut and paste the explanation of why I thought your plan was scummy into Sandro's section? In that case would you not have answered me because then the text sizes would look similar? This bit makes sense. His case versus WBG was complete rubbish but if you are thinking from this perspective, his view of Sandro makes sense. I am not the first person to call BC's DT plan prone to manipulation b the mafia. Specifically BC's, not yours. He is contradicting himself. Earlier he said that: WBG -I'm not a fan of his DT plan. Unless prevented by an ability, mafia will get a kill every night. Meanwhile, the town's lynches are semi-blind and can be manipulated by the mafia. We are meant to follow a list, which itself can be manipulated through propaganda, waste our player resources (forced kills), and waste our vigilante shots all to slightly help out our detective(s) to figure out their sanity, the attempts of which can be all for naught by GF, Millers, and framers. Overall, I see no evidence that he is not town. He's playing poorly (his later posts seem to indicate that he has at least some experience... is this Hier's first game?) but I don't see mafia agenda in his posts. If he is mafia, he hasn't indicated it yet. The problematic thing is that it makes perfect sense for him to be too passive after his last attempt to play the game attracted so much negative attention. Most of his posts since are exchanges with WBG, which include even more flexing and are hardly helpful. He would make a decent vigilante target later. Hier, could you post some analysis on someone who is not WBG or Palmar, please. Attempting to pressure Ace is not a good idea - not because he hasn't been acting a bit dodgy but because you have to provide content if you want to clear your name. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:37 GreYMisT wrote: I think my favorite part is the way you are trying to get everyone to do the analysis, while you yourself are avoiding it. reading through to a previous post of yours, you seem very wishy washy on BC being scum or Palmar being scum. I'd be very interested to hear your own opinion on the subject. You failed to commentate anything yet. Don't talk about me. Try to be a good example and I'll follow that up. I guess the zekslynch is about the two ways into the wood and syllo was killed in the wood right? Seems to be a pretty obvious hint :-P Does anyone doubt that theory?! | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:27 vaderseven wrote: Heading home from work now, my next posts will have my thoughts on who is scummy. Will be greatly appreciated and I hope more people join in. We have spent more than enough time discussing theorycrafting, plans, and Palmar. Every townie or mafia who wants to appear to be townie should focus on posting analysis. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 29 2011 07:43 xtfftc wrote: Will be greatly appreciated and I hope more people join in. We have spent more than enough time discussing theorycrafting, plans, and Palmar. Every townie or mafia who wants to appear to be townie should focus on posting analysis. Palmar has quite a few votes on him right now. I don't think discussing him is antitown. It's necessary. | ||
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