TL Mafia XLVII - Page 140

On November 29 2011 08:26 Ace wrote:
BC you just did something so fishy.

On November 29 2011 08:29 annul wrote:
the only other clue game i ever played was haunted mafia, a three team game, two mafia teams + town (each mafia team had to outlast the other team to win). i successfully used clues -- and ONLY clues -- to root out the members of the opposing mafia team (i was on one of the red teams). consistently. and i took MVP in that game.

if you care to read night 1, or hell, anything ive said day 2, you will see that i argue consistently and firmly that killing palmar -- AS LONG AS HE KEEPS UP DOUBLE LYNCH -- is fucking stupid. sure i think hes red. but hes self-sabotaging his team if so if hes using double lynches and helping town. so let him keep doing that. and if he is NOT red by some chance, why risk having the sheriff be red and sit on the double lynch?

zeks is 100% reliable a clue. if it isnt, lynch me tomorrow.

IF WE KILL ZEKS AND HE DOES NOT FLIP RED, LYNCH ME TOMORROW. i will shut the fuck up and not bother fighting it. i am that certain in the ability to use clues to get correct lynches.

i have confidence that somewhere down the line someone will stand up to a red mayoral palmar if im not around to do so myself. he cant get rid of everybody with common sense.

also, lurker banes need to shut the fuck up and not say shit today. or tomorrow. or at any point in time until they use their ability.

and as for "Is strongly pushing modkill on ace?"

yes, i am. he fucking cheated. i quit mafia last year because of cheating, just to be exposed to even worse shit on my first game back. i dont care WHAT color any of us happen to be, there is no place for this garbage in mafia. so yes.

On November 29 2011 08:34 annul wrote:
"Do you rather mean something like: "I am pretty sure that zeks is scum, I'd even bet my game-life on that"?"

that is exactly what i am saying.

On November 29 2011 08:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Pray tell enlighten me, I get called out on a fairly frequent basis.

On November 29 2011 08:36 annul wrote:
but there is no chance zeks is not red, so what happens tomorrow is irrelevant to the scenario imo

On November 29 2011 08:41 intrigue wrote:
fuckkkkk i keep going to make my second vote and then someone else posts and i get convinced again. i have annul voted already, and the second was gonna be hier. and then i read about palmar and zeks ugh

On November 29 2011 08:41 intrigue wrote:
inb4 annul convinces me he's not mafia and i have 0 votes decided

On November 29 2011 07:21 supersoft wrote:
I want everyone to answer this question please:

Do you think that Palmar and BC are both town?

If you answer this question with "no", who do you think is scummier and why do you think that?

I urge you to answer these questions in the next post you make. Plus i want to hear your reasoning behind that. You don't have to write a novel. I want to see something like:

"No, I think Palmar is scummier. The main point for me is his hesitation to nominate prplhz erandorr on that scummy top10list. / his overall passive playstyle / the horrible mislynch on a townie day1 / whatever...

or

No, I think it's BC. The main point for me are the circumstances of his election like / his DT plan he probably knew would never work / his hesitation to call anyone scummy / whatever"

I believe that this is the main questioning we have to solve.

If you add a quote, that'd be awesome:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=87086 Palmars filter
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=10200 BCs filter

On November 29 2011 08:22 Pigsquirrel wrote:
I will be voting zeks for this lynch. First off, we have the clue: Syllo getting killed on a rarely traveled path in woods (cough cough his quote is Robert Frost's poem about a rarely traveled path in a wood cough cough), but I did a quick read through of his filter to take a look at his behavior.
First, his initial candidates he supports.

All three of these have been looked at as slightly scummy. Prplhz's campaign was pretty meh, nothing special, and did not stand up to much criticism. BC and Sandroba were both accused of scumminess early on, and both were supported by Zeks. His support for these candidates is rather flaky: he is getting a "good vibe" from Prplhz, and wants to "hear more" from Sandroba. I think you get the gist of things. Note: Should zeks flip red, at least one of those three is almost certainly red. That list reeks of scumbuddyhood.

His actual vote: Palmar. Palmar is a pretty easy guy to vote for if one is trying to hide in a crowd, but it's impossible to use "he voted Palmar" as evidence, as that would require us to lynch half the town.

After his short-lived campaign fell apart, he fell off of the map until the clue pointed at him. I don't really have any idea how one defends against a clue, as they are less logic than interpretation, but "my profile shafts me no matter what" is a pretty bad defense imo.

And to go meta. Zeks was one of my scumbuddies in PYP Mafia about a year ago. From the sounds of things, he hasn't played Mafia since then, so his scum play should be pretty similar.

His PYP Mafia filter
He is not particularly active, and posting a small amount of logic analysis. Seem familiar?

So, for one of my Day[2] (see what I did there?) lynches, ##Vote zeks

On November 29 2011 08:48 supersoft wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

layabout, no because they did that pregame i believe.

On November 29 2011 06:28 Steveling wrote:
One of my votes will go to Palmer.

He has made the YM slip up and I'm not satisfied with the explaining he gave.

He has made the extremely obvious comment '' Medics don't target on Ace ''

He is now suddenly switching targets accusing prphlz. He realizes his time is nigh and he doesn't have enough sway against Ace so he needs an easier to frame scapegoat.

My other vote will probably go to xtfftc. Most damning evidence on his profile.
I have news for you mate, a police bat is also a club.