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On November 08 2011 03:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Generally yes, some hosts might not allow it, but that would usually be in the OP. I would advise against it, even if you have the time, one game ends up taking priority, and the other suffers for it. I learnt that the hard way. I mean I'm currently in a game, but by the time this starts its likely to be over. I meant is it actually against the rules to sign up for one when your current game is still in progress. | ||
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GLHF Everyone!:D | ||
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On November 15 2011 16:28 Cyber_Cheese wrote: People should post opinions on 1) Tunneling people, 2) Use of the multilynch system and 3) The use of the multilynch system in regards to lurkers. 1) I'm assuming this means focusing solely on getting 1 person lynched? If it does, we obviously want to avoid that and keep an open mind. 2) I think the multi-lynch system looks really interesting, and could be a great help if we use it properly. If we have a couple of people who are posting suspiciously then we don't have to decide which one is scummier, because we're not limited to one lynch, we can judge them seperately and lynch them both (if it comes to that). 3) We shouldn't go overboard with the use of this on lurkers, maybe lynch 1 lurker a day with it, in addition to the people we think are scum. | ||
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On November 15 2011 16:59 LSB wrote: What are your views about this? Should we do this? If so why? Well, obviously we want to be careful how we use it. I'm happy lynching a lurker day 1 as long as we focus on finding scum first. On November 15 2011 16:45 GreYMisT wrote: usally the problem with the day1 lurker lynch is town doesnt scum-hunt when they are determined just to kill a lurker. however with this settup we can "tack on" another target to the lynch. As for why, inactive players really don't help town at all. The only people who benefit from inactivity is scum. If we prioritize our first votes on someone scummy, and then lynch a lurker in addition to that, it's essentially free information is it not? | ||
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I think we've discussed the LaL and lurkers stuff enough. What topics of conversation are usually used day 1 to hunt scum with? | ||
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On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote: hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you: I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment. Go! What do you think about prplhz? | ||
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On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote: Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same. FoS: xsksc Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost? | ||
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On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote: No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started. And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him? That's a pretty silly assumption, my post said nothing of the sort. Why does "This is my first big game" become "I'm trying to help but will probably fail"? What makes you think that because I'm new to this sort of thing, I'm just gonna be a hindrance? Sure, I don't have the same experience as some of the veterans here, but I can still be just as useful. I'm not using being new as an excuse to "lurk", I've actually posted a decent ammount already. You really seem to be over-analyzing a simple hello post, I don't know what else to say. | ||
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The kenpachi/lanaia incident looks like the biggest talking point. Kenpachi is already dead and I'm not gonna vote lanaia yet, I think we should see which way kenpachi flips first. I find it hard to believe lanaia would make such a massive mistake if she is scum, assuming she did know that her name would appear alongside the anti-vote. Right now I'm getting a pretty strong scum read on Drazerk. The majority of his posts are one-liners, to which he'll add votes without giving a reason. On November 17 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote: chaoser That is all He attempts to defend himself from pressure by going on about how bad he is as a townie On November 17 2011 01:54 Drazerk wrote: Erm wait a second... XL - Only reason I didn't get lynched was because I spammed the thread with martyr posts SNMM4 - Read above but a lot worse WaW2 - LOL AA - Bad tunnel at wiggles proceeding by telling the SK that I am the medic proceeded to acting retarded Ressurection - Lurk day 1 - shot day 1 - resed by scum and everyone realizes it because I was looking so scummy XL3 - Active lurked into acting scummy to get the whole scum team in a single post LOTR - Saved the scum from a vigilante, proceeded to defend his third party claim, ROLE CLAIMED MEDIC TO SAVE SCUM, and proceeding to get role blocked / shot while spreading confusion through out the day. Hell If scum had kept me alive I would of protected Kita and let them win. Not sure what Drazerk your talking about to be honest because it's not me  And when kenpachi puts Drazerk on his scum-team list all he replies with is On November 17 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote: Unlike you I will never be lynched though In almost ALL his posts, he looks like he's posting just for the sake of posting, he doesn't add anything to discussions, and something like 3/4 of his posts have less than 10 words and no actual content. I'm not convinced that he's just a bad townie. I think he's scum. ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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 I can't help it man, when I'm on nothing happens. I posted my analysis a couple of hours ago and not much has happened since then. What are your current reads forumite? Still think think I'm newbie scum based on my hello post? Cause honestly, that was a pretty silly case. | ||
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While I agree that Chaos would be a decent lynch, I see Drazerk as way more suspicious at the moment and I'd rather lynch him. | ||
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I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on. People I think are town : wherebugsgo palmar risk.nuke harbingerofdoom lanaia forumite People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of : prphlz chaoser drazerk lemonwalrus That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though. Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1. | ||
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On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote: well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. I can relate to your list though I don't agree with all the reads (pending re-reading I'd say harbringer could be scum, and prplhz could be town). The reason HoD is on my town list is because he voted drazerk before most people. I'm reasonably confident that drazerk is scum, which would make HoD almost confirmed townie to me. And yeah the prphlz thing is really just a feeling at the moment, I don't have anything solid on him. | ||
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On November 19 2011 00:30 risk.nuke wrote: Okey I think I just specifically said I don't want to see lists without reasoning. So xsksc your next post better explain that list with arguments. Sure. People I think are town : wherebugsgo His posts seem very pro-town to me, he made a convincing case on chaoser, he didn't join the silly lynches. I don't think he's scum. palmar Same as wherebugsgo basically. I agree with most of his reads, he's made some pretty strong cases imo. His posts seem townie to me. risk.nuke I could definitely be wrong here, your agressiveness towards people I think are scummy makes you look town. However you voted in BOTH of the lynches, so I'm not too sure about you. harbingerofdoom Already said it in my other post. He was pretty agressive to drazerk early on, before he got a lot of votes, and if I'm correct and drazerk is red, HoD looks pretty town to me. lanaia I wasn't sure before kenpachi flipped, but I think she just made a mistake in revealing her role day 1. forumite He made some pretty weird cases early, I don't think scum would make such blatantly obvious attempts at starting a bandwagon, I think he was just trying to get information. He also seemed eager for a drazerk lynch, which makes me think he's town. I don't have solid cases on my scum list apart from Drazerk, and if you want to see my case on him just filter me. A lot of my list is just general vibes and feelings at the moment, some of the townies could be scum, and vice versa. | ||
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Not sure why we didn't lynch him day 1 tbh. | ||
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Unless we got a reason to doubt his mason claim, I guess there's better lynch targets now. Risk, why are you acusing me of bandwagoning? Drazerk has been my vote since the beginning. My day 2 vote on him was contentless because I already made my case on him day 1. Prphlz has been on my list of suspicions for a while now, though I don't think the current case on him is strong enough to lynch him with, yet. Palmar and wherebugsgo, do you still want chaoser lynched? How do you feel about prphlz? | ||
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Just realised I hadn't voted yet, I'll post explanations for these later, hopefully during lunch. ##Vote: Prphlz ##Vote: Nisani201 | ||
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I voted him earlier, but it didn't seem to count. | ||
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I'm up for killing DCLXVI tomorow, his medic softclaim is bullshit. | ||
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My vote on prplhz was really dumb, I know. When I was online it seemed to be a choice between him/Nisani/Palmar so I went with my instincts, cause I'm definitely not going to lynch Palmar. I should probably have just voted Nisani. Looks like I got some votes on me as a result and some people think I'm scummy, fair enough. Think back to day 1. If I am scum, why the hell did I not join those bandwagons on Kenpachi and Sinani that were filled with town and were super-easy for scum to blend in? I didn't vote for either of them. Sinani came very close to NOT being lynched, but then gets hammered in, iirc by Hyshes (now confirmed town). Not voting on him would be a stupid risk to take for pretty much no reward. I'm with you Palmar, but I won't fistpound just in case it's connected with abilities. Will a ##Highfive suffice? | ||
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Isn't there supposed to be some sort of mechanic in the game to prevent us lynching everyone in one go? | ||
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I'm going to agree that Nisani looks like the best lynch today, better than DCL anyway. He's been constantly going after the people who are generally accepted as town and his posts are shady. ##Vote: Nisani201 I'm also prettty suspicious of Lanaia. She says she never claimed blue, but when she blatantly anti-voted day 1 and her name appeared next to it, it's the same outcome. I'm really surprised she hasn't died yet. | ||
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On November 24 2011 23:57 Lanaia wrote: I never OUTRIGHT claimed it. That was what I meant. I re-read your post about the claim and I must have misunderstood it earlier. My bad, sorry. I'm still curious that you're alive, have you been notified of any hits? | ||
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Can you be a bit more clear about this? Not going to unvote unless you give a much better explanation. On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote: I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town.  | ||
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On November 23 2011 11:24 Zona wrote: It is now Day 3! With 19 alive, 10 is required to lynch. The day will end at November 26 11:00 KST | ||
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On November 25 2011 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: the reason behind night kills should not be discussed, too easy for scum to use WIFOM to do that. My god, what if palmar is still alive becasue he's scum! but what if mafia wanted us to think that?! but what if they knew we would think that they thought that..... see? BUT WHAT IF THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW?! ....You know? | ||
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It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that? | ||
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Night 1, I protected Palmar and Lanaia. Night 2, I protected Palmar. I do not get told if my targets are hit. Yes this role is probably a waste on someone as useless as me. I've been trying to blend in and not get hit while not getting lynched either, I felt like we had lost enough blues already. | ||
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On November 25 2011 21:02 Palmar wrote: xsksc will be the first to claim. (I have a good reason for this). What was the reason for me being first? Just out of interest | ||
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On November 26 2011 01:01 Forumite wrote: Right. I still think my one mistake was missing the breadcrumbs. What finally changed my mind was xsksc's claim, after he said he was 100% sure, which couldn´t have made him cop but would work with doctor. Sorry I'm missing something here, what did that change your mind about? | ||
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Does this mean my protection on all my targets fails if multiple protected targets are hit? Not entirely sure how this works actually, am I allowed to PM Zona for clarification? | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:12 GreYMisT wrote: why so he did. He called it something different though, "town obsessive stalker" I think he has some sort of mafia tracker role. On November 26 2011 11:03 Zona wrote: Town Tracker You were obsessed with a certain actor during your childhood, and ended up stalking this person whenever you could. Kibibit's role sounds a lot like obsessive stalker, no? I'm guessing Cyber got a similar role pm, but as scum. His night 1 visit would make a LOT more sense if he is. I could totally be wrong here, I'm extremely tired. I'll give him a proper look tomorow morning. | ||
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I'm off now though, I really can't analyse shit when I'm this tired, gonna watch proleague then sleep ^_^. | ||
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Zona confirmed for me that if I protect 3 targets and 2 are hit, my protection on all of them fails. Palmar and bugs, do you guys have any input on how I should use this tonight? My plan thus far has been protect the fuck out of Palmar, but it's getting a bit more complicated now. | ||
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My activity level was low, I should post a lot more. I need to be more careful with votes, I can't even remember why I voted prphlz now, fuck that was dumb. I only got one save all game, choosing who to save is way harder than I first imagined, especially when there can be 3 picks in one night. Still, I should have saved more people with a multi-protect role like that. Sorry town, I was part of the reason we lost. I'll try harder next time | ||
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On November 30 2011 18:43 Palmar wrote: This is the problem with big games. I tried to approach it like a small game, where I assume everyone is going to be involved and actually play the game properly, instead of approaching it for what it is, a huge game filled with trolls and players who have no interest in playing the game. Yeah, I was awful, but I wasn't trolling or not taking it seriously, just bad. I was pretty nervous about posting much, we'd already lost blues and I was scared of accidently saying something stupid or revealing I guess, lol. My plan was keep you alive and try not to die... I definitely should have posted loads more. | ||
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I actually get pretty annoyed when people complain about balance or certain things being OP, in any game. I avoid SC2 live report threads now for this very reason, I just got too frustrated at all the zerg QQing about X being OP, it's bullshit. Instead of complaining about the game, why not thank Zona for the time and effort he put into hosting it for you? | ||
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. What I'm trying to say is that unless everyone plays 100% optimally and doesn't make mistakes, balance should be pretty much irrelevant to a win/loss (obviously there's gonna be exceptions for extreme cases.)In this game for example, if me and the other inexperienced/bad/trolling townies had just played better and posted more, we would have had a much better chance at winning. It wouldn't have mattered if we didn't have vigs or if Grey's role was OP, we just needed to simply play better. | ||
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