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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On October 15 2011 06:22 hiro protagonist wrote: I'll let you think about it for awhile... I for one would be interested to hear you expound upon this, why would scum see it as a bad idea to have someone in a mayor office, who cant die until the bodygaurd does, and who can choose the lynch day1? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I assumed something about what hiro was implying but hiro can explain himself since I have no idea what his logic is. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
Thanks for sharing that bugs. I had forgot about some of those roles. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On October 15 2011 06:43 GreYMisT wrote: I for one would be interested to hear you expound upon this, why would scum see it as a bad idea to have someone in a mayor office, who cant die until the bodygaurd does, and who can choose the lynch day1? they can both die by lynch. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
well yea but so can scum that arnt in office. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
but as bugs pointed out, there are alot of combos. maybe more than he posted or that I thought of. so now Im not so sure. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On October 15 2011 07:04 hiro protagonist wrote: My logic is that mayor and pardoner will be under alot of scrutiny, and without a solid way of hiding the fact that your mafia, there is not as much incentive for grabbing the big seat. Those thinking that agent of chaos/ackbar or suicide roles for mayor are good for mafia should realize that the game is to be the last one standing, not "kill as many people that visit me/and I die as well" but as bugs pointed out, there are alot of combos. maybe more than he posted or that I thought of. so now Im not so sure. I remember someone said that mayor is DT checkable but when I filter Prot I don't see him say this at all. If the mayor isn't DT checkable then that's a solid way of hiding. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
speaking of framer, DropBear, you never said if you got that role or not. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On October 03 2011 14:51 Protactinium wrote: Role Changelog: Elected officials no longer are immune to role checks. NRA members no longer show up as vanilla to investigations. Qatol is no longer immune to role checks. Agent of Chaos can no longer be subbed in as a bodyguard. They must be elected into office in order to activate their power. Bone Breaker role added. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
Addressing a few points brought up 1) I never said people should not analyze, don't be dense. I said you should spend more time analyzing other townies I even gave a brief idea of the types of things people should be looking for instead of using traditional scum hunting as their basis for determining someone's townieness. And I will do plenty of scum hunting, I will put my track record of scum hunting up against almost anyone's. No one should have any concerns about that. 2) My day 0 posting has been bashed a little bit. Take a second and actually look at my day 0 posting. I did not post 5000 times about plans that everyone has agreed now are pretty much null tells. However, I did support kita's idea of turning Ace into a vigi that could only shoot mafia and I brought up the point that JOAT should not be delegated because it is the easiest role for mafia to drop to their teammates. Neither of these are major points but they both ONLY help town and harm mafia. I am not trying to put on some act to appear pro town I posted when I saw something that could be guaranteed to directly help the town and not mafia. Outside of that I have already talked extensively to at least half the town on irc/skype/etc. And I will talk to anyone who wants to talk to me. If you have your doubts about me being town then message me on skype/irc/aim/etc. I will discuss ideas and give my opinions to anyone. If you don't want to take syllo or sandroba's word that I am likely town that's fine. Message me yourself and we can discuss any concerns you have. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Ok thanks, I was looking for mayor and not elected officials. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On October 15 2011 06:52 hiro protagonist wrote: hmmm, I forgot about role thief. but all of the vote fixing ones arnt so bad. Dont forget that other mafia factions will want to kill the mafia mayor as well. Thats a lot of heat to take when (which is just my opinion) you would want to stay more undercover as scum from other scum. Thanks for sharing that bugs. I had forgot about some of those roles. NRA member as mayor would be really bad as well. He gets checked and then the DT gets shot...pretty bad. Just the possibility of the mayor being PGO/NRA member would probably turn off some people from checking him. We have to keep the mayor accountable through the thread after he is elected, and of course make sure we elect someone who is a townie. As for Mig, we have taken this to PMs. I will post anything that I deem to be relevant in the thread over the course of the thread + Show Spoiler + fuck homework mafia all the way | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Or do the bodyguards prevent this? | ||
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JACCUZISPLAT
Uzbekistan76 Posts
hiro is scum. Honestly if you're town think long and hard not about who's the best player but who's town. that's the important thing for mayor/pardoner this game. Currently i don't have a solid enough town read on any of the candidates. So my vote stays on myself for now. | ||
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JACCUZISPLAT
Uzbekistan76 Posts
At night you can invent anything you feel like. Give someone a gun with 1 bullet, give someone more bullets, a med-kit, a detective kit, a telephone or whatever else you can think of. PM me what you want to invent and what player you want to give it to. Of course if you're invention is totally game breaking I won't allow it and you have to invent something else. Be creative ^_^. You can't give yourself anything, and you must tell me how your invention works so I can PM the other player (you cannot trick them to how the invention works). In the Day post there will be a message letting everyone know what was invented, but not who it was given to. You can only invent the same thing (or something very similar) once, and each invention can only be used once by the target. Lastly, you can only give one invention to each player until the remaining alive players have all received an invention. so you can't make a police radio that gives the wrong results. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
As of now, I don't feel comfortable voting for someone high on the draft list, as having a mafia with a powerful role as mayor is a lot worse than having a vanilla mafia as mayor. As such, I'm putting my vote on Radfield for now. | ||
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
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JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
On October 15 2011 08:37 JACCUZISPLAT wrote: Inventor so you can't make a police radio that gives the wrong results. You can give the invention to a team mate, and have them use it. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On October 15 2011 08:37 JACCUZISPLAT wrote: Inventor so you can't make a police radio that gives the wrong results. Also, every single detective will know the results were false since the broadcast results don't match with the results that they received. You will have 4 or 5 players pushing to lynch the inventor immediately. On October 15 2011 08:39 JimboSilvers wrote: This was already answered. Elected roles can be banned. No, Elected roles CANNOT be banned. They are not roles, they are elected officials. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On October 14 2011 02:50 Protactinium wrote: Mayor and Pardoner are not considered roles, they are considered elected offices. So yes, the Qatol role can ban the Pardoner/Mayor, but it would only remove the powers given to them by their role (the one they picked). They would still retain their mayor/pardoner powers. There are 4 parties. Framer can make his target look like any one of them  | ||
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