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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:15 GMT
#281
On September 29 2011 05:06 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:20 Kurumi wrote:
There are 20 players alive.
4 of 4 Mafia Members are alive.
Mafia KP formula is #/2=KP
Mafia KP now is 2.


2 Mafiakills + 1 sniper + 1 pyro (.5 kp) = 3.5kp.

Oh, so nevermind, I miscounted. 3.5kp still isn't enough for the medic to be worth it though, IMO. I'm willing to be debated over this though.


Something that WBG clearly isn't willing to do.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
If it isn't obvious that tnkted is both blue fishing and medic fishing then I don't know what to say. His plans are extremely pro mafia and the game has barelystarted.

Also since the engineer role has been clarified I think Forumite is more likely to be dumb town than tnkted.

##unvote Forumite
##vote tnkted


On my phone btwn classes so apologies for the shor posts


Saying something is 'blatantly' when you're the only person who sees it isn't blatant at all, its just rhetoric. That's all this post is, rhetoric. If you have to explain WHY something is obvious, maybe it isn't obvious at all?

Also, WBG has thought I was scum d1 virtually every single game I've played with him, so zzzz


I "thought" you were scum in the only game I've ever played with you, when I was scum.

How the fuck does that have any relevance to anything?

Also, you're right in that I don't really have to explain it. It's obvious to anyone who reads your posts and understands what you're trying to do.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 28 2011 20:22 GMT
#282
AA was only 60 pages cause I was boss spammer.
wat
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 28 2011 20:23 GMT
#283
On September 29 2011 05:22 Curu wrote:
AA was only 60 pages cause I was boss spammer.

Two words and a number. Insane Mafia 2.

Feel free to ask kita about it :-P

/returns to watching
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#284
On September 29 2011 05:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 05:06 tnkted wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:20 Kurumi wrote:
There are 20 players alive.
4 of 4 Mafia Members are alive.
Mafia KP formula is #/2=KP
Mafia KP now is 2.


2 Mafiakills + 1 sniper + 1 pyro (.5 kp) = 3.5kp.

Oh, so nevermind, I miscounted. 3.5kp still isn't enough for the medic to be worth it though, IMO. I'm willing to be debated over this though.


Something that WBG clearly isn't willing to do.

On September 29 2011 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
If it isn't obvious that tnkted is both blue fishing and medic fishing then I don't know what to say. His plans are extremely pro mafia and the game has barelystarted.

Also since the engineer role has been clarified I think Forumite is more likely to be dumb town than tnkted.

##unvote Forumite
##vote tnkted


On my phone btwn classes so apologies for the shor posts


Saying something is 'blatantly' when you're the only person who sees it isn't blatant at all, its just rhetoric. That's all this post is, rhetoric. If you have to explain WHY something is obvious, maybe it isn't obvious at all?

Also, WBG has thought I was scum d1 virtually every single game I've played with him, so zzzz


I "thought" you were scum in the only game I've ever played with you, when I was scum.

How the fuck does that have any relevance to anything?

Also, you're right in that I don't really have to explain it. It's obvious to anyone who reads your posts and understands what you're trying to do.


Weren't we in personality mafia together? Or am I thinking forumite?

And could you please condescend to explain why and what I'm doing thats so scummy? I have no idea what I'm apparently doing. If I'm the only one, educate me.

I don't think you can, since I'm not doing anything.



People who keep saying my plan is stupid, and then also bitching about how nobody is talking about anything should be explaining why my plan is stupid.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:27 GMT
#285
On September 29 2011 05:10 prplhz wrote:
so PM land is baller and all but you know, there are mute people around, townies too. and those guys can't really talk in PMs or talk about what's happening in (most) PMs and it's cool and all that you're hanging out in PM land but people need to post here too. 14 pages after one day, this is hands down the slowest mafia game ever. i think it was batman mafia where we were at 60 pages after one day or something like that, and WaW2 too but that was different.

PM land is cool but post here too

i don't like tnkted's plan but it's the only thing there is to talk about. dunno if towns should keep accepting shitty plans in the beginning of the game just for the sake of something to talk about. Mig's logic is sound but that's pretty boring.

also, Palmar actually is scum this time


The thing I don't like about prpl is that he has contradicted himself already.

He votes Chezinu on a really dumb reason (believing he hasn't read his role) and says the thread needs discussion and posts but hasn't actually provided any posts himself.

He says that tnkted's plan is worth discussing just because it's a plan but doesn't say anything about it either.

prpl why u so scummy
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 28 2011 20:27 GMT
#286
Medics also should use their discretion with burned targets. If you just heal whoever Mafia burns they're basically directing the Medic and everyone knows the best way to win as Mafia in TL is to kill everyone who is active/capable of reading the thread.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:31 GMT
#287
On September 29 2011 05:26 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 05:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 29 2011 05:06 tnkted wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:20 Kurumi wrote:
There are 20 players alive.
4 of 4 Mafia Members are alive.
Mafia KP formula is #/2=KP
Mafia KP now is 2.


2 Mafiakills + 1 sniper + 1 pyro (.5 kp) = 3.5kp.

Oh, so nevermind, I miscounted. 3.5kp still isn't enough for the medic to be worth it though, IMO. I'm willing to be debated over this though.


Something that WBG clearly isn't willing to do.

On September 29 2011 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
If it isn't obvious that tnkted is both blue fishing and medic fishing then I don't know what to say. His plans are extremely pro mafia and the game has barelystarted.

Also since the engineer role has been clarified I think Forumite is more likely to be dumb town than tnkted.

##unvote Forumite
##vote tnkted


On my phone btwn classes so apologies for the shor posts


Saying something is 'blatantly' when you're the only person who sees it isn't blatant at all, its just rhetoric. That's all this post is, rhetoric. If you have to explain WHY something is obvious, maybe it isn't obvious at all?

Also, WBG has thought I was scum d1 virtually every single game I've played with him, so zzzz


I "thought" you were scum in the only game I've ever played with you, when I was scum.

How the fuck does that have any relevance to anything?

Also, you're right in that I don't really have to explain it. It's obvious to anyone who reads your posts and understands what you're trying to do.


Weren't we in personality mafia together? Or am I thinking forumite?

And could you please condescend to explain why and what I'm doing thats so scummy? I have no idea what I'm apparently doing. If I'm the only one, educate me.

I don't think you can, since I'm not doing anything.



People who keep saying my plan is stupid, and then also bitching about how nobody is talking about anything should be explaining why my plan is stupid.


The only game we've ever played in together was MLP. I was not in personality.

Also I replaced for Sev in Cosmic but you were lynched before I joined.

Finally you're scummy because you're vig fishing. Mafia find the mute players and the chance of them shooting a player who can only contribute in the thread (and therefore is probably contributing a lot to everyone rather than being manipulable through PMs) and is very likely to be the blu sniper.

Your plan is not just bad, it's completely mafia favored. I literally can't see a plus to it for the town.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:33 GMT
#288
*the chance is very high

For sure they'll hit townies, they know their own teammates obviously. By targeting mutes they're almost guaranteed to shoot the vig
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 28 2011 20:35 GMT
#289
tnkted wants to compile a list of possible snipers. even if snipers aren't top priority night hit targets, there's no reason to give this list to mafia. he justifies this saying that information is good for town, but townies can compile their own lists if they want/need a list. i don't think that mafia will hide behind muteness, at least not all game long. people will notice. also PMs are a good tool for manipulating a naïve town in a malicious way.

by all means, make your list, but keep it to yourself.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 28 2011 20:36 GMT
#290
WBG is pretty scummy but not at Palmar level yet.
wat
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 20:40 GMT
#291
On September 29 2011 05:35 prplhz wrote:
tnkted wants to compile a list of possible snipers. even if snipers aren't top priority night hit targets, there's no reason to give this list to mafia. he justifies this saying that information is good for town, but townies can compile their own lists if they want/need a list. i don't think that mafia will hide behind muteness, at least not all game long. people will notice. also PMs are a good tool for manipulating a naïve town in a malicious way.

by all means, make your list, but keep it to yourself.


Okay, THIS is a good reason not to do it.

I won't post anything I have learned.


FTR, I was thinking that giving the information wasn't bad for town since the list of mute townies was likely to be so large, and mute townies are so UNLIKELY to be organizing things behind the scenes (ie pming) that mafia would rather shoot analyzers and active pmers than into the mute list. But if the mute list is like, 3 townies, the plan doesn't make sense.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:41 GMT
#292
I dare you to establish why I am scummy.

I have not done anything to warrant such an accusation. If you don't agree that tnkted is scummy for his plan, fine.

Just think about it, though. If mafia establish who the mute players are (let's say they find like 4 mutes) then they shoot into that list and they have 1/4+1/3 chance of hitting the sniper if there is only one sniper, or more than 50% (7/12 chance).

If there are two snipers or fewer mutes the chance of them hitting the sniper is even bigger.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:43 GMT
#293
Also it makes no sense for any town role to fish for mutes either.

Let's say a townie medic looks for mutes so he has a good chance of protting the vig. Mafia can easily fake mute and then draw the medic prot.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 28 2011 20:43 GMT
#294
WBG if tnkted is mafia do you think he would announce this plan in the thread or would he just pm a bunch of people on his own? What motivation does mafia have to post the plan in thread.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 28 2011 20:50 GMT
#295
On September 29 2011 05:43 Mig wrote:
WBG if tnkted is mafia do you think he would announce this plan in the thread or would he just pm a bunch of people on his own? What motivation does mafia have to post the plan in thread.


Both.

In fact, if I was scum I'd do something very similar what tnkted has done so far. You can establish yourself as a town contributor by posting a plan in the thread, for example.

The PMs and mute mechanic favor mafia IMO. If I was mafia I'd love to PM people to influence their reads and create chaos behind the scenes. I'd also fish for mutes and shoot them all since they're likely to be more active in the thread, more likely to be a vig, and because they are not manipulable through PMs because they can't PM.

If mafia shoots all the mutes the vig will most certainly be dead by day 3.

Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 28 2011 20:58 GMT
#296
Ok but honestly who cares? So mafia shoots sinani/etc in the hopes of killing the vigs? Good for them. They are shooting people who can't mason and aren't hitting out other power roles. People who can't pm and vigs are a lot less important than active townies and meds/dts.

And you realize that if tnkted posts this plan to list the mutes in thread and suddenly mafia starts sniping them it makes him look terrible right? Mafia are much more likely to pm everyone on their own than they are to post about it in the thread and risk the backlash. And maybe you would want to pm people to try and manipulate them but in general the ability to pm strongly favors townies.

Your case against tnkted is incredibly weak you are stretching with almost all your statements to try and make him appear scummy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2011 21:12 GMT
#297
I agree with Mig btw.

But I don't think WBG is scum either, just have a quick look at the way he's posting. I don't think he's actually played scum, but this looks much more like his overconfident in your face town play. Both being wrong and being aggressive fit his meta perfectly.

that being said:

##Vote Jackal58
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 28 2011 21:18 GMT
#298
On September 29 2011 06:12 Palmar wrote:
I agree with Mig btw.

But I don't think WBG is scum either, just have a quick look at the way he's posting. I don't think he's actually played scum, but this looks much more like his overconfident in your face town play. Both being wrong and being aggressive fit his meta perfectly.

that being said:

##Vote Jackal58

Why Jackal? Something he´s posted/PMed or cause of lurking?

On an unrelated issue, I don´t know if my FoS on sinani206 is stronger or weaker after him just disappearing.
:3
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 21:20 GMT
#299
I think the sniper roles in this game are pretty stupid anyway. The minute one sniper posts #kill whoever the other sniper is just gonna kill the first sniper and claim that hes the REAL sniper, that other guy is an imposter (this is assuming that there is 1 sniper on each team which doesn't seem that unreasonable to me).
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 28 2011 21:36 GMT
#300
@tnkted

i don't understand that at all ... when the first sniper flips the second sniper is gonna have an explanation problem on his hands.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
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