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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 28 2011 11:48 GMT
#241
Mafia could figure out who are muted just by pming everyone and seeing who never responds. And I doubt mafia are going to be shooting into the only people who can't pm just in the hopes of hitting a sniper so I really doubt it matters whether people claim or not.

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 28 2011 12:52 GMT
#242
On September 28 2011 20:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
The role list says not all roles are guaranteed to be in the game, but is it possible for there to be roles that aren't on the list?


No, only the roles listed in the OP are present
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 13:56 GMT
#243
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 28 2011 14:09 GMT
#244
On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.


I'm mute, so I'm not answering.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 14:17 GMT
#245
Also, I agree with mig about the Engineer watcher/medic but for different reasons. I think the extra medic is a waste in a game in which 1. we already have a medic and 2. There are only 4.5 kp floating around, only 2.5 of which belong to scum. Don't even THINK about getting the dispenser station. That's just asking for more KP.

Should people who are burned at night claim, so that medic can choose to protect them, or what? that tells mafia where the medic is gonna be, but mafia can just fakeclaim a burn and draw the medic too. I'm uncomfortable with introducing a town mechanic that allows mafia to manipulate the medic that way.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#246
On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.

I'll save you the trouble. You and DropBear have both PMed me. I won't be responding to either.
Life can only kill you once.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 28 2011 14:37 GMT
#247
It's important to note that even if you're mute, you're still allowed to join the IRC channel. You just can''t say anything.

Overseer is watching you...
Enjoy your day.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 28 2011 14:45 GMT
#248
This is an important question.

If you haven't been PMed by Mig yet, please post so in the thread.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 28 2011 14:47 GMT
#249
I haven't pmd anyone yet but I am not mute.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 28 2011 14:50 GMT
#250
12+ hours in and Mig still hasn't PMed everyone in the game, keep an eye on him.
wat
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 28 2011 15:22 GMT
#251
On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.


huh?

Dont they have 100 percent chance of shooting town , since, you know, they know who each other is?
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 28 2011 15:43 GMT
#252
On September 29 2011 00:22 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.


huh?

Dont they have 100 percent chance of shooting town , since, you know, they know who each other is?


Yes, they do, but it's guarrenteed to be a townie that isn't PMing. It doesn't make sense for mafia to shoot into that.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 28 2011 15:48 GMT
#253
On September 28 2011 23:50 Curu wrote:
12+ hours in and Mig still hasn't PMed everyone in the game, keep an eye on him.

That's almost enough to lynch him on its own. Mig not interested in PMs? What?
Valar Morghulis
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 28 2011 15:57 GMT
#254
If a medic heals a burn victim does it inform the medic that he healed them?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 28 2011 15:59 GMT
#255
On September 29 2011 00:57 Mig wrote:
If a medic heals a burn victim does it inform the medic that he healed them?

Medic is never noticed about successful heal.
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NotChezinu
Profile Joined September 2011
Zimbabwe61 Posts
September 28 2011 16:05 GMT
#256
On September 28 2011 23:17 tnkted wrote:
Also, I agree with mig about the Engineer watcher/medic but for different reasons. I think the extra medic is a waste in a game in which 1. we already have a medic and 2. There are only 4.5 kp floating around, only 2.5 of which belong to scum. Don't even THINK about getting the dispenser station. That's just asking for more KP.

Should people who are burned at night claim, so that medic can choose to protect them, or what? that tells mafia where the medic is gonna be, but mafia can just fakeclaim a burn and draw the medic too. I'm uncomfortable with introducing a town mechanic that allows mafia to manipulate the medic that way.

You seem to have vaster knowledge than the rest of us mortals. How are you aware of the presence of 4.5 KP? You know the mafia has 2.5kp? The presence of a medic is a certainty?

Truly you are wise. Or perhaps foolish, I'll leave that up to observation.

Also let the record show that jcarlsoniv is probably mafia, so if I'm on your team jcarlsoniv I would appreciate an informative PM informing me.
I am not Chezinu. Really. I am no role and all roles at once. Scum and Town. My alignment is unobserved.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 16:14 GMT
#257
On September 29 2011 01:05 NotChezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:17 tnkted wrote:
Also, I agree with mig about the Engineer watcher/medic but for different reasons. I think the extra medic is a waste in a game in which 1. we already have a medic and 2. There are only 4.5 kp floating around, only 2.5 of which belong to scum. Don't even THINK about getting the dispenser station. That's just asking for more KP.

Should people who are burned at night claim, so that medic can choose to protect them, or what? that tells mafia where the medic is gonna be, but mafia can just fakeclaim a burn and draw the medic too. I'm uncomfortable with introducing a town mechanic that allows mafia to manipulate the medic that way.

You seem to have vaster knowledge than the rest of us mortals. How are you aware of the presence of 4.5 KP? You know the mafia has 2.5kp? The presence of a medic is a certainty?

Truly you are wise. Or perhaps foolish, I'll leave that up to observation.

Also let the record show that jcarlsoniv is probably mafia, so if I'm on your team jcarlsoniv I would appreciate an informative PM informing me.


I am? Interesting. But then...if I were mafia, and you were on my team, wouldn't that also make you mafia? O_o
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
NotChezinu
Profile Joined September 2011
Zimbabwe61 Posts
September 28 2011 16:18 GMT
#258
On September 29 2011 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:05 NotChezinu wrote:
On September 28 2011 23:17 tnkted wrote:
Also, I agree with mig about the Engineer watcher/medic but for different reasons. I think the extra medic is a waste in a game in which 1. we already have a medic and 2. There are only 4.5 kp floating around, only 2.5 of which belong to scum. Don't even THINK about getting the dispenser station. That's just asking for more KP.

Should people who are burned at night claim, so that medic can choose to protect them, or what? that tells mafia where the medic is gonna be, but mafia can just fakeclaim a burn and draw the medic too. I'm uncomfortable with introducing a town mechanic that allows mafia to manipulate the medic that way.

You seem to have vaster knowledge than the rest of us mortals. How are you aware of the presence of 4.5 KP? You know the mafia has 2.5kp? The presence of a medic is a certainty?

Truly you are wise. Or perhaps foolish, I'll leave that up to observation.

Also let the record show that jcarlsoniv is probably mafia, so if I'm on your team jcarlsoniv I would appreciate an informative PM informing me.


I am? Interesting. But then...if I were mafia, and you were on my team, wouldn't that also make you mafia? O_o

It would, which is why I would appreciate you telling me if I am on your team! I need some outside data before I can observe my role PM!

Quantum uncertanty is hard.
I am not Chezinu. Really. I am no role and all roles at once. Scum and Town. My alignment is unobserved.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 16:20 GMT
#259
On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 20:45 supersoft wrote:
On September 28 2011 20:34 Forumite wrote:
Anyone can be Mute, not just the Blu Sniper. Even Scum can be mute, in which case they can only talk to other scum in the scumthread. How many Mute players there are is unknown.


town doesn't have to know who is muted. Only scum wants to know who is muted, because amongst these people, are the snipers.
therefor I'd suggest, that noone claims that he's muted anymore.


I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig.

So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play.


One thing about publicly revealing who is mute and who is not, is that the fewer people that scum knows are mute, the easier it would be to hit the Blu sniper, just by sheer probability. I'm not sure how many people would start the game mute (sinani has claimed it so far).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 16:27 GMT
#260
On September 29 2011 01:18 NotChezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 29 2011 01:05 NotChezinu wrote:
On September 28 2011 23:17 tnkted wrote:
Also, I agree with mig about the Engineer watcher/medic but for different reasons. I think the extra medic is a waste in a game in which 1. we already have a medic and 2. There are only 4.5 kp floating around, only 2.5 of which belong to scum. Don't even THINK about getting the dispenser station. That's just asking for more KP.

Should people who are burned at night claim, so that medic can choose to protect them, or what? that tells mafia where the medic is gonna be, but mafia can just fakeclaim a burn and draw the medic too. I'm uncomfortable with introducing a town mechanic that allows mafia to manipulate the medic that way.

You seem to have vaster knowledge than the rest of us mortals. How are you aware of the presence of 4.5 KP? You know the mafia has 2.5kp? The presence of a medic is a certainty?

Truly you are wise. Or perhaps foolish, I'll leave that up to observation.

Also let the record show that jcarlsoniv is probably mafia, so if I'm on your team jcarlsoniv I would appreciate an informative PM informing me.


I am? Interesting. But then...if I were mafia, and you were on my team, wouldn't that also make you mafia? O_o

It would, which is why I would appreciate you telling me if I am on your team! I need some outside data before I can observe my role PM!

Quantum uncertanty is hard.


Oh of course! Silly me, I forgot you were playing Schrodinger's Role. Although I don't think I could help you much. I don't know anything about quantum uncertainty, I'm just a lowly math major!
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
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