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Also, I cannot wait for this game to start. | ||
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you're yes then you're no you're in and you're out we kiss we make up | ||
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Also, why are we talking about neutral factions when we should clearly be talking about Voldemort and the Ring Wraiths? | ||
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I don't have any concrete suggestions on how to get the ball rolling, it just kinda builds up during most games I suppose and then suddenly we have something. Keep your eyes open and be active, even though that's pretty generic | ||
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Right now GreYMisT wrote a(nother) stupid post, saying "I'm sorry, I'm stupid and I'm on a phone too, that's worth a post in and of itself, but I see why you think I'm scum and stupid but I'm really just stupid". This just doesn't sit well with me even though the original reasoning for even voting him was inarguably pretty weak. | ||
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Oh yea Samwyse also had it at some point right? He had it and then he willingly gave it to Frodo 'cause he didn't want to walk around with it or something and then later he indirectly carried it, carrying Frodo who was carrying it. Woopseedaisy. | ||
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On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends. ##vote prplhz wow what a 100th post i'm so blown away i want to vote for me too now i don't like drh or heist or wiggles but there are tons of people here who are worthy of scrutiny On September 18 2011 04:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + It's generally agreed that a 50/50 bandwagon is pretty much the ideal situation for mafia. Actually when the town all agrees on one player that is the scummiest and tunnels them leaving no wiggle room, that is the worst scenario for mafia because assuming town was correct they have no way out of it. Vain is definitely being antagonistic and the fact that he slipped under the radar for such bad posting isn't a good sign. People seem to be complaining that we're still talking about Gollum or the ring or whatever but most of the discussion on the last few pages is about a lynch so stop complaining. I'm keeping my vote on WBG until I make up my mind. Vain, Drazerk, prplhz are all people I'm looking at. stuff like this, it's the wiggle room we want 'cause that's when people really have to talk about stuff, even if we're lynching a scum i think 51/49 is better than 100/0 and drh should probably think so too unless he's a crazyman i'm fine with wbg and cyriandor and syllogism, good questions and wbg is not worth the attention he's getting right now, let him troll around and then maybe a vig can shoot him at some point or whatever | ||
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On September 17 2011 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + Greymist straight up asking for the ring day 1 doesn't bode well for him. ##Vote Greymist I don't think our mod would hand the ring off to an evil player day 1. It's probably with a Frodo , Bilbo, or Gollum if we have any of those roles. So we know Greymist either has a protown power that is greatly amplified by the one ring, or is part of a neutral/evil faction that needs the ring for some reason. And Chaoser is right. We can't spend this whole game talking about roles. Scumhunting is #1. voting greymist because he asked for ring on day1 .. asking for ring is pretty silly but the vote doesn't accomplish anything as i really doubt anybody will feel pressured by a couple of votes this early in the voting cycle with that bad of a reasonable On September 17 2011 15:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + TranceStorm has a bad plan. Big deal, hopefully he can be made to see the problem with it. The main problem is that this game is not about confirming townies using mechanics we don't understand the goal is to find and catch scum. Wherebugsgo I don't know your metagame but here's what I see. 1. begging for the ring in every post 2. vague allusions to why you want it 3. voting for TranceStorm and FOSing him with no reasons. You're playing absolutely detrimental to town. This is not pro-town play, it is not how we catch scum. It's how shit gets stirred and people always let bad scum like this slide (coag in countless games) because they figure "oh no way scum would act so brashly or bad". ##Vote wherebugsgo At the very least, if you aren't scum, you are a stellar example of how town players should never act as you say, wbh is bad-townie not scum. you don't waste a lynch on a dude because he's a bad townie, you threaten with vigihits or hope he gets mafia killed or his mom takes his internet away. as pressure it makes little sense as he was already posting his ass off. On September 18 2011 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + (... blah blah blah...) Honestly on Day 1 I'd be more content lynching a pretty sure SK/Third Party player than some gut scum read that is probably wrong and end up killing some VT or power role that is actually helping us. As far as your posting all you are is an annoyance and a distraction. is he scum acting as bad townie or is he SK? anyway, you are saying that we should all vote for this guy because he's 3rd party, instead of lynching someone who might be scum just because we can't be sure? this is a terrible idea, you lynch scum and 3rd party is left until a vigilante shoots them or until you have a scumtell on them. and you can never be sure that someone is scum, it will always be analysis and gut feelings and you're not encouraging that right now. on the whole multiple candidates v all votes on single target, i'm pretty sure it's always better if there are multiple candidates and i can't believe you're actually trying to argue that that's not the case. your argument is that 100% votes on a target who is 100% scum is best, but you will never be 100% sure that someone is scum, is that what you want to wait around for? On September 18 2011 06:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + (... blah blah blah ...) I've decided you're a clown and I'm not wasting anymore discussion talking to you about this. Come up with something good enough to reply to and I'll think about it. You're just noise. i really don't think you're trying to promote a good environment for scum hunting by saying that someone is a clown and noise. On September 18 2011 08:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + If we don't have a viable serious scum target then I'd be fine getting rid of a detrimental player who is probably a third party SK. Better than hitting town. However, let's knock off the "he's too bad to be scum" nonsense. I've seen worse from mafia players in the past. being bad doesn't clear you. again, you'd rather just lynch wbg than trying to scumhunt and you want a guy who is 100% scum. well do you think we're gonna get that by just all voting for wbg and then calling it a day? scum wants 3rd party dead too i think, gollum wasn't exactly on sauron's side. all in all i think drh is playing pretty weird compared to what i have seen from other people who are supposedly good at this game and i think he is promoting agendas that aren't good for town and if he's that smart he'd know that. the guy is scummier than the other dudes, 'cause none of them were really that scummy after all. ##Vote: DoctorHelvetica | ||
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i like drh navillus and jackal as candidates for lynches right now | ||
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On September 18 2011 21:07 jcarlsoniv wrote: People are saying that they don't expect to hit scum today. This is true. From a purely mathematical basis, chances are against the town. Now add in null tells, bad reads, and mistells, and our chances aren't really better. But for the most part, people aren't voting randomly. They are offering analysis and reasoning (for the most part) behind their votes. If this post was an attempt by you to shell some people off of voting for you, I'll say you failed hard. It's had the opposite effect on me. Please share some REASONS behind your suspicions of drh, navi, and jackal. Give us a REASON to believe you other than saying "I like them for lynches". Also, @WBG, you posted exactly what I wanted to say about Archon. It was a post that made me jackiechanwtf.jpg IRL. Archon and Py both only start posting when they are called out for inactivity? AND the posts are not entirely useful (much less useful from archon). Come on guys. Don't make us beg for your activity. Lurkers always seem scummy. If you want to play with the town, you actually have to play. but you can hit scum on day1, you sholdn't just give up because of math. if you want to wait until the math is good then we'll have to wait until they outnumber us. lynching wbg because he's 3rd party is pretty stupid, we should hunt for scum instead. i already shared reasons for my vote on drh and i'm quite sure other people wrote pieces on nav and jack which i'm not gonna parrot. and then you are all like "lol someone was inactive and then active totally scummy" not really would you rather they shut their mouth and you could just go through with a 3rd party bandwagon? this is not creating a scumhunting environment. i'd kinda like palmar to say something because he's from iceland and that is indubitably the northernmost location of all participants of this game. also i'd like jack to do some scumhunting 'cause he's apparently also a veteran of sort. since this drh thing is going nowhere i'm gonna switch to jack ##Vote: Jackal58 on jack's most recent post, there is a third option with wbg, leave him be and see if he starts acting like a normal human being, maybe he's just frustrated with being VT for the 10th time in a row, maybe his mom just told him he had to clean his room, there are plenty of reasons for posting silly shit but lynching a guy solely because he's 3rd party is totally scum agenda. also, i'm not a big fan of your idea of giving the ring to random people and i'm pretty sure any townie with a brain wouldn't do that. | ||
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you accusations? i filtered you and searched for prplhz and you have only accused me of talking about mechanics (and i did, how would you like me to refute that?) and then you accused me of not posting enough, though i think there are people who have posted less than me. yea it doesn't make sense for scum to scumhunt, and that's how you scumhunt, you force them to help you as any townie would do and then see how they fare. i'm saying i think that jack is scum and that's why i'm voting him but i'm very open to the possibility that he isn't, but he'll just have to prove that. also jack has 3 votes with mine which puts him in top3 of votes along with me and wbg .. i think you're being overzealous, your original reasonable for voting me wasn't too great and now you're just mindlessly following up, while agreeing with me that voting wbg because he's scum is defeatist, as i've said for this entire game. | ||
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i thought kitaman and heist had some decent arguments and that's my reason for tossing him onto my list | ||
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i have attacked just about 1 guy and only said that 3 people were scummy, i'm sure you can find other people who have thrown more accusations around 'cause that's not really too bad. i think most of all this voting me is because cyriander suddenly came out of nowhere and said i was a good guy and apparently i'm his pal or something, but you should really be questioning him instead 'cause that's very weird day1 after a couple of posts from me that i agree could be interpreted as scummy ... but this is too late and something that can be done tomorrow. i think people should switch their votes to wbg me and jack. i also want to tell sandroba and palmar that i have the eru-iluvatar-given ability to instantly kill them at my will if they don't start posting. | ||
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@ON are you insane? no i don't have the ability to kill two random players instantly if they don't post enough for my liking, what the fuck? | ||
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is that the most blatant omgus i have ever seen? | ||
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i like the erandorr analysis even though i think you're missing that scum we're most likely just sitting back enjoying the show while wbg shat the thread up. i have no idea who erandorr is and i'm having a hard time forming an opinion on him, i'm leaning town but as it is right now i'll have to vote to stay alive. i think vain and chaoser are acting pretty weird right now, chaoser was on my back earlier and now he's suddenly on supersoft's back with a weak case looks like he's trying to distance himself from me | ||
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i'd also like for as many people to be around until deadline as possible in case something happens. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Erandorr the wbg bandwagon is dead, it's probably me or erandorr, people who voted wbg needs to think their shit through carefully (and so do the people who voted for me) | ||
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chaoser: first vote, the only one with something resembling a case. primarily angry that i wanted people to stop speculating and then i speculated myself anyway. a lot of people did that though and i'm sure i've redeemed myself with real content since then. angry that i wasn't 100% sure that the guy i voted for was scum, but when is anyone mod confirmed scum? GreYMisT: said he couldn't find anymore on me than chaoser but came up with some weak thing about me talking about him. only post since he voted me was the picture of jackie chan. raynpelikoneet: parking his vote on me with one line reasonable until something will happen, this happened one day ago and he's not commented on it since, only having one post jcarlsoniv: ninjavote, didn't vote in this thread only in vote thread but whatever. doesn't post anything notable in this thread when he voted for me in voting thread. main reason appears to be that i didn't argue why i wanted drh lynched even though i posted pbp analysis, agree with it or don't. navillus: "squeezed" my vote, didn't vote here but only in voting thread. says it's because he doesn't like the other lynch targets, he doesn't want to vote on someone who isn't gonna get lynched (how do you know i'm gonna get lynched?) doesn't like jack-wagon (and i'm not a wagon?!) and then literally parrots "what the other dudes said", well only one of them really said anything. doesn't like how cyriandor defends me and i think he's been acting weird too but whatever, the guy digs me so i'll tolerate it today. heist: says he has to vote for one of wbg and me and he knows who. only one most post where he says he'll vote erandorr instead if that looks like it's gonna happen. trancestorm: thinks i had a point about drh but doesn't like that i didn't do pbp analysis on jack so i'm scum. he also thinks himself that jack is scummy but apparently chooses to disregard that. Mr. Wiggles: FOS on syllogism, then he votes me ON: some sort of omgus ... i don't see how this is a strong case and how this isn't a huge bandwagon | ||
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this is a chronological list of all the votes on me and i hope it will make some of the guys realize that the case is pretty weak and that it looks like a bandwagon. | ||
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yes i've had to restrain myself not to say more stupid shit that could be misinterpreted. i've never been under this much heat and it makes people say stupid things and under scrutiny they might get blown out of proportions but that was the first and the last time i ever did that. also i didn't see you moved your vote 'cause it happened 1 min before i wrote the post. | ||
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he's been very much lurkey too, voting me for chaoser parroting reasons and then a picture of jackie chan and then or he disappears until i call him out for just that? why is drazerk more interesting than other people who are arguably more lurkey? also jackal is off the table, erandorr is the new deal. | ||
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what you mean you don't trust people anymore? when and who did you ever trust? why did you trust these people in the first place, it seems weird that you trust someone on day1. | ||
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well homework sucks and all that i'm happy i did that earlier today 'cause the time before deadline is usually pretty hefty. greymist posted 20 mins before drazerk too, and your 2 line post at drazerk was 6 mins after greymist's last post, you took 6 mins to write a 2 line post? if you are that busy then why do you feel the pressing need to post stuff right now and not wait until you can sit down and consult that list of yours? | ||
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why am i suddenly not good enough for you, why am i not still a better target for lynch than erandorr? you were one of the last votes on me too and now you're one of the last votes on erandorr, both of them with very unconvincing reasonable. it seems like you're just sheeping along. | ||
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Drunk IPhone Mafia In order to participate in Dunk IPhone Mafia you have to be drunk and write from your phone. If you accidentally sober up and write sensible well formatted posts from your computer you must immediately post a one liner apologizing for this. | ||
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why would my flipping scum make wbg more likely to be scum? i didn't deal too much with him or support his supposed 3rd party agenda more than any other, i only said that 3rd party shouldn't be designated for lynches 12 hours into the day. @drh you're still on my list for sure. what principle is making you abstain from voting? don't you think one of me and erandorr could be scum? | ||
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also jack and drh needs to get the hell over themselves and not bring all this "lol usuk i r gunna be replace bcuz i h8 u", someone else said this, but if you want to get replaced them PM mod and don't take that shit in here. christ. | ||
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i'm frodo and sam/ciryandor didn't get hit last night he valiantly took at hit for his master, me. i also got roleblocked last night. i'm vanilla town, except i had mason and bodyguard in sam, and i don't have the ring, i assume it's in possesion of bilbo but this is just speculation, though more qualified since you'd probably assume that the ring was with frodo but i have insider knowledge on just. please don't spam up the thread again with ring-speculation because of this revelation. people need to get posting, 4 people were hit last night, seems a bit excessive for scum to have 4 KP. who did you hit and why? | ||
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On September 20 2011 08:52 Navillus wrote: Hey guys I have to apologize for sucking so much by mistaking blue reads for red, I also have to apologize because I joined this at a terrible time and I have basically 0 free time, so I'm asking for a replacement, sorry dude noone is good in their first game just do your best. i bet you're putting in more effort into this game than 2/3 of everybody else. come on man. On September 20 2011 09:03 Jackal58 wrote: My vote on Bugs stayed because I don't like him. Or more accurately I don't like how he plays. way to be totally fucking useless. you policy vote on a guy because you don't like him, what the fuck. you're ruining the game 100 times more than he is with your whining and calling for replacement. On September 20 2011 09:27 JeeJee wrote: I ran the message through some common ciphers.. got nowhere. It's too short for any analysis based approach so I figure it's best to forget about it until it comes to light again. Will write up my thoughts on day 1 after I hit the gym. Interestingly enough both radfield and I lived. It's a miracle =D one's a miracle, the other's a disaster. also i didn't get anything from the encoded string from caesar or from vigenere with random lotr related words. | ||
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On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote: This shit sucks, I thought I made enough posts, my bad guys. And DrH dying sucks, because it means I can't just tunnel him today, I actually need to find another scum today. prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo. you thought you'd made enough posts ... so you're lurking by intend, only trying to write the absolute minimum of posts? i've only seen you lurk once before in like 6 games and you pretty much lost the game for town in that but i'm not gonna give you the benefit of the meta doubt. i hope you get vigi'd and i can't believe someone shot me over you last night. you want the ring to go to radfield, sandro, pyo, or yourself? as you pointed out i don't have that power, but even if i did, i wouldn't trust any of those. On September 20 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote: In any case, if you're lying, you should consider giving it away. btw, Sandroba is almost definitely town, but only if he takes his vote off me. I'm basically confirmed town from my exchanges with DrH, but only people like sandroba/syllo etc will see it. We need to keep an eye on syllo... yarly. chaoser is also very likely town. I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita... your exchanges with drh consists solely of: On September 19 2011 08:32 Palmar wrote: DrH is giving me really bad vibes. ... and this is supposed to confirm you as town? you have a long way to go kiddo | ||
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radfield saved me last night but that doesn't mean he's not scum. i was pretty surprised that the erandorr bandwagon worked out but i was too busy trying to save myself to really get into it. i'm not sure about you or pyo, neither of you are scummy but you're not town either. why do you want to know who i have a town read on? that's usually not something that interests townies such as yourself, i thought you'd might like to know who i think is scum instead ... unless you actually believe that i have the ring and want me to tell you who i'd give it to. i'm surely gonna be a target of mafia night2 because of the likelyhood of me having the ring and i'd have to give it away, to someone i think is town. ... why do you want to know who i have a town read on? | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote: Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right. But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So, ##Vote Drazerk first you want to infolynch drazerk On September 18 2011 02:39 Radfield wrote: I'm all for lynching scum, but I highly doubt we hit scum today. There's no good candidates yet. That being said, upon rereading I have no idea why I was suspicious of Drazerk. Chalk that up to an awful hangover. I'll try to work up something better soon next you forget why you even want to lynch him then comes a ton of useless posts saying nothing about anybody and then On September 19 2011 08:45 iGrok wrote: Ok, lets review. Who of the following are the scummiest? Palmar - Not doing much so far Radfield - Has been active. Pulled wagons off GreyMist and WBG, onto Errandor. Suspicious. Syllogism - Was active early on in Ring discussions. prplhz - Leaving this until later kitaman27 - No great analysis, but decent reasons for voting and has worked to pressure OriginalName - After watching him play in Resurrection, he's playing the same way. Minimum contribution to avoid focus. Vain - 1 liners except to defend prplhz Erandorr - somehow appeared on his own vote list? TranceStorm - I see a connection between TranceStorm and Radfield forming when I filter him. TS often references Radfield's arguements. TS also attacked prplhz early on a list of people and obvious facts about them taking no stance on anybody. pretty much you are very useless. another thing i noted is that you have been around at around 8:00 every day ... except first day. you were there at 7:50 but you didn't post after the game started 10 mins later which doesn't fit with your supposed "i post what i want to post when i want to post it". no opinions, lots of useless one liners, a list of rather obvious observations. it's time you sober up and do something real. | ||
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so who do you think is scummy since you don't think that vain is scummy and you don't think that you are scummy yourself | ||
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also, lore wise, sauron was maia but gandalf/saruman/radagast weren't. they were istari and if you check out sauron's and gandalf's flips you'll see that gandalf doesn't have maia passive ability. i know your post said "those were the four names i was given in my role pm" but it just doesn't make sense and curu doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd make that mistake, especially since role descriptions clearly state who is maia and who is istari. you're pretty scum igrok. | ||
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rofl so we should just accept anything from anybody, 'cause people have been acting shit all game long anyway? | ||
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why would it be idiotic to shoot him? why do you even think anybody is gonna shoot someone who already survived a hit somehow? why do you want to keep a guy alive whose only defense is a claim, and who then magically survives a hit even though his claim said nothing about that ability? the guy needs to die and a lynch is the only way to go. although i'm interested in any case you think you can make against jack/pyo/rad. | ||
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why do you even want my opinion, i'm confirmed town. i'm not gonna scumslip or anything. maybe you should focus on people who actually might be scum. | ||
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also @drazerk but medics don't protect through day. thus he's either a veteran or he's somehow immune to ##cleave, no matter what then he lied about his role. also, why would any medic protect igrok, he is scummy as hell and he didn't contribute during day1 at all. | ||
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if you don't see any reason for why any medic should protect igrok through the night, then why would you rather assume that he's been medic protected rather than that he's some sort of veteran and he's been lying about his role? also, who do you think we should lynch instead of igrok and more importantly, why? | ||
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so what are your thoughts on igrok you haven't voiced your opinion on him and that's kinda weird 'cause yesterday you actually wanted to lynch him, albeit briefly and not very pushy. today you have the chance to actually do that but you choose to focus on drazerk instead. what's your opinion on igrok and why don't you want to lynch him anymore? | ||
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i like chaoser for lynch how about that? | ||
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but it has to be fast i'm not up for some last minute stuff | ||
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why are you ghost voting on the bandwagon and why are you always one of the last guys to jump on the bandwagon? | ||
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if any medic is stupid enough to protect drazerk then he needs to get his brain scanned medics protect those you think provide good analysis for town vigs hold fire unless your trigger finger is really itchy but don't be a hero and shoot someone you think it would be really cool if they were scum | ||
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You're scum. | ||
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i'm gonna be unavailable for most of day2 because of unforeseen real life obligations .. i'll be here for the rest of night2 and then i'm gonna be back again around 12 hours before deadline day2 sorry about this. igrok, who are you going to shoot tonight to prove to everybody that you're town aligned? and don't hide behind popular vote, you have to shoot a scum to be innocent, you can't just hide behind popular vote, 'cause that hasn't really worked out for town too well so far. | ||
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how the hell is drazerk pushing scum agenda? if he is pushing scum agenda then igrok is clearly scum, why doesn't he appear on your list? | ||
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anyway, i'd still like to hear from igrok who he's gonna shoot since i don't think he should just be able to hide behind popular vote. guy needs to contribute if he wants to be considered town. | ||
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don't you think palmar and igrok as scum are incompatible? palmar led the igrok lynch day2 and he didn't stray from it not even 2 hours before deadline when igrok was looking very likely to be lynched. why did you pick palmar over igrok btw, igrok hasn't contributed ANYTHING so far while palmar has at least done something. also, radfield and i were hit by the same assassin (put to the sword), what do you guys make of this? maybe the one who hit me felt guilty or something ... | ||
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... and ON? | ||
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only scum should feel as guilty as you do, so stop saying that you need to die all the time | ||
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do you really think that Pyo is capable of better town play than he's showing here? heist is ten times as scummy as Pyo | ||
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i have the ring and i've had it all game and i might need some sort of protection tonight also, there are 6 scum so you're missing someone on your list palmar @chaoser who are you going to hit tonight? can you pick your target yourself? | ||
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1) i don't have a reason for revealing it, it was just totally arbitrary 2) i have a reason for revealing it now it's one of those two | ||
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who are you going to hit tonight? | ||
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result: one dead scum one dead SK/townie and the ring will stay safe | ||
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you wanted igrok to survive day2 'cause then he could use sauron's unstoppable kill on me. maybe it's time you do like igrok did and just stop talking. | ||
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he was trying to vote for who igrok should have nightkilled it wasn't a non-anon vig hit | ||
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trance/gaymist/archon/cheese/jcarl need to step it the hell up 'cause you're all being useless, some more useless than others trance is making a reputation of himself being the last guy on the bandwagon and the only thing he can mention that makes him town is "i made a bad plan on day1" graymist filter makes him pretty scummy day1 and then he slowly turns into pretty useless instead archon is beyond useless. also, what palmar games have you been in before since you know some meta on him? cheese is scum so he should just maybe just not post jcarl has been tunneling palmar on and off all game and one liners on everybody else been of no use. the secret message about him being ugluk was placed there by mafia so it's a null tell. all of you need to step it up right now | ||
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so your contribution is to parrot your past self in attacking a guy who led the lynch on a scum for two days in a row just because he's also been wrong at some points in the game? ... | ||
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chaoser cheese kita archon heist pyo supersoft those were the people who voted against igrok at some point yesterday, where do we start? | ||
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