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Until what Erandorr posted fully comes out, I still think prp is our best lynch target.
On September 19 2011 05:48 prplhz wrote:
the case against me is pretty fleeting, from my point of view it's a bandwagon that's slowly been building, there's never been any pbp analysis or anything, just a bunch of people i have never seen or heard about before slowly deciding that they're gonna put their vote on me and go away and this pretty much sucks. i'd rather lynch wbg than me too in case he actually turns out to be 3rd party, it's better than me dying anyway.
i'd also like for as many people to be around until deadline as possible in case something happens.
Take a look at this post. This post sounds like scum tried to convince himself and everyone else that the votes piling up on him will just go away. Look at his defeatist attitude as well. Townies dont/shouldnt just "give up" when they have a wagon piling up on them. they begin scumhunting as best as they can to find a better target. Scum, on the other hand, do give up because they know there isnt going to be a better target. Also, at the very end he feebly deflects attention to WBG because he might be a 3rd party, instead of looking for scum targets.
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Goddammit, didnt vote in the thread. Still stands though:\
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United States4714 Posts
Erandorr gets a warning for the edit. If he edits again it's a modkill
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On September 19 2011 06:45 Mig wrote:
Erandorr gets a warning for the edit. If he edits again it's a modkill
Please ask FW to post the pre-edit text
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 19 2011 05:29 Navillus wrote:
Okay why on earth do we have 2 people attempting to start new wagons with like 3 hours until lynch, we are not lynching supersoft or erandorr today and if you leave your votes there for the lynch you'll be my first targets come tomorrow.
We have tons of time left. Decide who you think is most scummy, nothing less.
On September 19 2011 05:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 05:18 prplhz wrote:
jackal, i don't have that kind of meta with you, i just know that you're a veteran and i think it's very often better to pressure a veteran to do sensible things that pressure a noob, 'cause a noob will most likely just dig a deeper hole for himself (hi, i'm prplhz, and since i started talking the votes have been piling up on me)
i like the erandorr analysis even though i think you're missing that scum we're most likely just sitting back enjoying the show while wbg shat the thread up. i have no idea who erandorr is and i'm having a hard time forming an opinion on him, i'm leaning town but as it is right now i'll have to vote to stay alive.
i think vain and chaoser are acting pretty weird right now, chaoser was on my back earlier and now he's suddenly on supersoft's back with a weak case looks like he's trying to distance himself from me What I have learned about my day 1 reads. 95% of the time I'm wrong. What I have learned about my day 3 reads. 75% of the time I'm right. That's why I die night 2. The only thing I'm fairly confident of right now is Bugs is most likely 3rd party. I'd rather lynch 3rd party than mislynch a townie.
This is where we disagree. I would much rather mislynch a townie day 1 then kill a third party. I care ~1% about a third party(even a SK) at this point in the game, and even successfully lynching him tells us absolutely nothing about the mafia. Town should be looking for scum, why are you so desperate to find a third party?
+ Show Spoiler +Don't be afraid of being wrong on Day 1. It's really not that important, simply try your hardest every time to lynch scum, and try to keep the thread on track at the same time
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On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr
If this is true Erandorr needs to die.
Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:41 GreYMisT wrote:Until what Erandorr posted fully comes out, I still think prp is our best lynch target. Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 05:48 prplhz wrote:
the case against me is pretty fleeting, from my point of view it's a bandwagon that's slowly been building, there's never been any pbp analysis or anything, just a bunch of people i have never seen or heard about before slowly deciding that they're gonna put their vote on me and go away and this pretty much sucks. i'd rather lynch wbg than me too in case he actually turns out to be 3rd party, it's better than me dying anyway.
i'd also like for as many people to be around until deadline as possible in case something happens. Take a look at this post. This post sounds like scum tried to convince himself and everyone else that the votes piling up on him will just go away. Look at his defeatist attitude as well. Townies dont/shouldnt just "give up" when they have a wagon piling up on them. they begin scumhunting as best as they can to find a better target. Scum, on the other hand, do give up because they know there isnt going to be a better target. Also, at the very end he feebly deflects attention to WBG because he might be a 3rd party, instead of looking for scum targets.
Lets assume there is very little missing from Erandorr's defense. Why are you giving him a free pass?Do you still think prp is a better target than Erandorr?
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On September 19 2011 06:58 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:41 GreYMisT wrote:Until what Erandorr posted fully comes out, I still think prp is our best lynch target. On September 19 2011 05:48 prplhz wrote:
the case against me is pretty fleeting, from my point of view it's a bandwagon that's slowly been building, there's never been any pbp analysis or anything, just a bunch of people i have never seen or heard about before slowly deciding that they're gonna put their vote on me and go away and this pretty much sucks. i'd rather lynch wbg than me too in case he actually turns out to be 3rd party, it's better than me dying anyway.
i'd also like for as many people to be around until deadline as possible in case something happens. Take a look at this post. This post sounds like scum tried to convince himself and everyone else that the votes piling up on him will just go away. Look at his defeatist attitude as well. Townies dont/shouldnt just "give up" when they have a wagon piling up on them. they begin scumhunting as best as they can to find a better target. Scum, on the other hand, do give up because they know there isnt going to be a better target. Also, at the very end he feebly deflects attention to WBG because he might be a 3rd party, instead of looking for scum targets. Lets assume there is very little missing from Erandorr's defense. Why are you giving him a free pass?Do you still think prp is a better target than Erandorr?
There is nothing missing in content only effort.
If there is a way to get my post back I would gladly do it to prove it myself.
Radfield, could you tell me right now what you think wbg is and why you are so convinced he is town and not 3rd party? have you actually read what he said?
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On September 19 2011 06:55 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 05:29 Navillus wrote:
Okay why on earth do we have 2 people attempting to start new wagons with like 3 hours until lynch, we are not lynching supersoft or erandorr today and if you leave your votes there for the lynch you'll be my first targets come tomorrow. We have tons of time left. Decide who you think is most scummy, nothing less. Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 05:42 Jackal58 wrote:On September 19 2011 05:18 prplhz wrote:
jackal, i don't have that kind of meta with you, i just know that you're a veteran and i think it's very often better to pressure a veteran to do sensible things that pressure a noob, 'cause a noob will most likely just dig a deeper hole for himself (hi, i'm prplhz, and since i started talking the votes have been piling up on me)
i like the erandorr analysis even though i think you're missing that scum we're most likely just sitting back enjoying the show while wbg shat the thread up. i have no idea who erandorr is and i'm having a hard time forming an opinion on him, i'm leaning town but as it is right now i'll have to vote to stay alive.
i think vain and chaoser are acting pretty weird right now, chaoser was on my back earlier and now he's suddenly on supersoft's back with a weak case looks like he's trying to distance himself from me What I have learned about my day 1 reads. 95% of the time I'm wrong. What I have learned about my day 3 reads. 75% of the time I'm right. That's why I die night 2. The only thing I'm fairly confident of right now is Bugs is most likely 3rd party. I'd rather lynch 3rd party than mislynch a townie. This is where we disagree. I would much rather mislynch a townie day 1 then kill a third party. I care ~1% about a third party(even a SK) at this point in the game, and even successfully lynching him tells us absolutely nothing about the mafia. Town should be looking for scum, why are you so desperate to find a third party? + Show Spoiler +Don't be afraid of being wrong on Day 1. It's really not that important, simply try your hardest every time to lynch scum, and try to keep the thread on track at the same time
Well if you really want my wrong read on the day it's Heist. Don't ask for a 10,000 word analysis. I don't have one. But if I was forced to pick one person out of the 30 odd we have here that aren't 3rd party or town it's Heist. Call it an issue with syntax. But every post of his I've read say "Hi I'm scum"
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On September 19 2011 06:58 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:41 GreYMisT wrote:Until what Erandorr posted fully comes out, I still think prp is our best lynch target. On September 19 2011 05:48 prplhz wrote:
the case against me is pretty fleeting, from my point of view it's a bandwagon that's slowly been building, there's never been any pbp analysis or anything, just a bunch of people i have never seen or heard about before slowly deciding that they're gonna put their vote on me and go away and this pretty much sucks. i'd rather lynch wbg than me too in case he actually turns out to be 3rd party, it's better than me dying anyway.
i'd also like for as many people to be around until deadline as possible in case something happens. Take a look at this post. This post sounds like scum tried to convince himself and everyone else that the votes piling up on him will just go away. Look at his defeatist attitude as well. Townies dont/shouldnt just "give up" when they have a wagon piling up on them. they begin scumhunting as best as they can to find a better target. Scum, on the other hand, do give up because they know there isnt going to be a better target. Also, at the very end he feebly deflects attention to WBG because he might be a 3rd party, instead of looking for scum targets. Lets assume there is very little missing from Erandorr's defense. Why are you giving him a free pass?Do you still think prp is a better target than Erandorr?
Assuming very little was left out of his defense, the reason I am voting prplhz over errandor is as follows:
Errandor was inactive for the majority of the first day, following his return from the thread he was suspicious of WBG and called him out, as many of us did. however, other than the fact that he has few posts, I dont have a scum read on him for wanting more out of WBG. I shall reread when his votes picked up to obtain more info.
prplhz, on the other hand, has posted quite a bit, therefore I have more information on him. This information is largely what chaoser has pointed out (contradictions) as well as what i feel is defending himself in a scummy manner.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said:
On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way?
This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..."
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 19 2011 05:19 Palmar wrote:
Radfield is a cool guy and Errandor has done nothing that looks like town posting.
WBG is almost definitely not scum, just put yourselves in his shoes, why the shit would he post the things he's done if he was scum, he's basically piling on attention and scummyness by wanting to look for his precious, outright demanding it.
I'll be voting for Errandor.
I think you're swell too Palmar.
What do you think about ON/Pyo/prp?
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On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
So nice of you to join us! I hope you enjoyed your lurker vacation.
Seeing as you haven't posted anything about prpl or jackal, I would like to know your thoughts about both of them.
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On September 19 2011 07:05 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying. Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said: Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way? This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..."
So to make it clear, out of all those accused right now, you think I am the most likely to flip scum after I die?
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On September 19 2011 07:05 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying. Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said: Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way? This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..."
I generally don't trust people anymore.
As for WBG - I still think he is lying about his claim and getting people to go "Leave him it's just gollum who is third party"
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so jcarlsoniv why aren't you asking greymist about the same?
he's been very much lurkey too, voting me for chaoser parroting reasons and then a picture of jackie chan and then or he disappears until i call him out for just that? why is drazerk more interesting than other people who are arguably more lurkey? also jackal is off the table, erandorr is the new deal.
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Here is erandorr's original post
Okay filtering myself I sort of see that I make a decent target right now.
We've gone from WBG trolling to now being worthy of getting lynched day 1. This is the most BS post in the thread right now. First we have the contradiction. Second we have the justification that even if he is town, he's worth getting rid of. NOPE. I realize that's not precisely what's been written, but that is absolutely the intent. Third, this is a complete and utter bandwagon. WBG picks up a couple votes, and Erandorr slides into the scene. Fourth you add in a bit of extra post restriction business which does nothing but cut him down. This is not why we vote! This entire post is showing that Errandor justification for voting WBG is not in fact that he's scum, but rather a bad townie who deserves to die.
Why are you so convinced that WBG is a townie and not a 3rd party? I want to kill him because I am weirded out by his behaviour.
First I thought he was trolling or trying to get discussion going , then he basicly claims posting restrictions and a goal other than scumhunting but does not want to reveal anything that may make him look innocent. Then he starts contributing as if nothing had happened before and not giving any reasoning . Thats why I wanted to kill him, if he was consistent then I probably would not have but like this I want him dead.
Whoops scum slip. Why are you voting for a player AND THEN reading the thread? Not how townies play.
Come on dude, I was just filtering the players I was interested in first and then made it through a shitton of posts.
To paraphrase: "You're actually playing good now, but you trolled before. You're targets are all good, but your behaviour is bad"
It's hard to justify killing townies when you're scum isn't it?
Errandor is very scummy, and likely the best vote we'll get:
O.o
Question to you : Why are you so convinced that Wbg is town?
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@drazerk
what you mean you don't trust people anymore? when and who did you ever trust? why did you trust these people in the first place, it seems weird that you trust someone on day1.
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On September 19 2011 07:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying. So nice of you to join us! I hope you enjoyed your lurker vacation. Seeing as you haven't posted anything about prpl or jackal, I would like to know your thoughts about both of them.
Don't have a strong opinion on either but jackal seems a bit off and I did say that I would be lurking for several hours in advance.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 19 2011 07:12 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:05 Radfield wrote:On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying. Drazerk why would you assume that Kita is lying when Erandorr basically reposted exactly what Kita said: On September 19 2011 06:30 Erandorr wrote:
I guess I will try again: I make a decent lynch target when I filtered myself but I actually still do think that wbg is a good target, because his behaviour has been off. First what I considered trolling then claiming posting restrictions and then going back to posting normally like he didnt have one. And doing all that without giving a clear reason. Thats not weird to you in any way? This is an absurdly feeble defense. In fact, it's not even a defence, it's a redirect. Of course WBG's posts have been strange, no one can deny that. But plenty of town players have opened games by playing 'poorly' to attract sheep votes and bs votes.... like yours. Does this mean WBG is town? Of course not, but it certainly doesn't make him scum either. Add to the fact that his posting dramatically improved as the day went on and you find someone more likely to be town than scum. If his posting/activity level stays high than he stays, if it deteriorates than we vig him, by no means do we use a lynch on someone who the vast majority of the players think is "probably not mafia but..." So to make it clear, out of all those accused right now, you think I am the most likely to flip scum after I die?
Absolutely. And to be clear, you think WBG is most likely to flip mafia?
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