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Kitaman, who do you think is mafia? You think chaoser is SK, this is for sure, but who is mafia?
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On September 28 2011 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1? Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however.
Becouse nearly everyone was sure he was 3rd party, and as you know, mafia likes to kill 3rd parties.
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On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
I know the explanation. Drazerk is scum.
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On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?
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On September 28 2011 02:26 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1? Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however. Becouse nearly everyone was sure he was 3rd party, and as you know, mafia likes to kill 3rd parties. Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...they would rather town dealt with third parties and then they can save their kills for blue roles and strong town players...You should have played in the simple mafia game before playing this closed setup game...
After some thinking, you are right. I also understand WBG is a good player (yes/no?), that's the other reason i could think of him being killed 1st night. And the fact he at first wasn't making any sense, and at the end of the day he was IMO most pro-town @ day 1.
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On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird? I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )
What do you mean by "your role changing"?
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On September 28 2011 02:30 kitaman27 wrote:I like how chaoser was perfectly fine with my tracker claim when I caught him red handed, but now that he needs a lynch to push, he completely flips. Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kitaman, who do you think is mafia? You think chaoser is SK, this is for sure, but who is mafia? If I had to choose one person, draz seems the most likely. I just can't understand why a town medic would protect igrok night one. He was being completely useless and there was a 0% chance of him being hit. What kind of medic publicly role claims in the thread revealing their role, in order to attempt to confirm the claim of a third party? In addition, he said he claimed because he was obviously going to be hit at night. I just don't see how this makes sense. Palmar could very well be a scum gollum. Every game I've ever seen him play as scum, he always takes the pro-town stance and busses his scumbuddies at will. The remaining mafia are likely located in the group of lurkers, GGQ, ON, Archon_Toilet, Cheese, heist. With DrH, Radfield, and iGrok already flipping, there has to be at least a couple newer players. I'm not confidant enough to be willing to push any of them, so close to the lynch though. The last thing we need is another last minute swap like on day one and two.
You are yourself in danger to get lynched. Why won't you push anyone?
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On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
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I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird? I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) ) What do you mean by "your role changing"? Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with ) I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.
It could also be a lie that syllo gave you double action. Maybe he didn't give it to anyone. Maybe he did give it to you. I dunno.
You also have claimed you had a posting restriction, how does that make sense to a town medic? Btw, what was your posting restriction, now that it's gone?
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On September 28 2011 02:37 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:30 kitaman27 wrote:I like how chaoser was perfectly fine with my tracker claim when I caught him red handed, but now that he needs a lynch to push, he completely flips. On September 28 2011 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kitaman, who do you think is mafia? You think chaoser is SK, this is for sure, but who is mafia? If I had to choose one person, draz seems the most likely. I just can't understand why a town medic would protect igrok night one. He was being completely useless and there was a 0% chance of him being hit. What kind of medic publicly role claims in the thread revealing their role, in order to attempt to confirm the claim of a third party? In addition, he said he claimed because he was obviously going to be hit at night. I just don't see how this makes sense. Palmar could very well be a scum gollum. Every game I've ever seen him play as scum, he always takes the pro-town stance and busses his scumbuddies at will. The remaining mafia are likely located in the group of lurkers, GGQ, ON, Archon_Toilet, Cheese, heist. With DrH, Radfield, and iGrok already flipping, there has to be at least a couple newer players. I'm not confidant enough to be willing to push any of them, so close to the lynch though. The last thing we need is another last minute swap like on day one and two. You are yourself in danger to get lynched. Why won't you push anyone? Swapping a lynch from myself to another town doesn't help us one bit. With 4-5 kp at night, we can't afford to mislynch, which is why I'm learning towards going after the sure thing. I already explained earlier that draz would probably be the person I would feel best about going after. He would probably be the only person I would consider at this point, unless something drastic happens over the next few hours.
So you think, let's say me over you as townie lynched is "no point of changing"? You don't think you could do more as a town than me? I highly doubt.
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On September 28 2011 02:40 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
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They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird? I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) ) What do you mean by "your role changing"? On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with ) I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post. It could also be a lie that syllo gave you double action. Maybe he didn't give it to anyone. Maybe he did give it to you. I dunno. You also have claimed you had a posting restriction, how does that make sense to a town medic? Btw, what was your posting restriction, now that it's gone? Can't say don't even bother asking.
Ahh, so it was there, and now it's gone, but you still can't say what it is/was. Have you done anything but been lying this game?
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Sorry, i misread the other mod post. Yeah, i'm up for lynching kita.
##Unvote
##Vote Kitaman27
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On September 28 2011 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:49 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 02:47 chaoser wrote:Thank you... Basically Curu confirmed that 1) the medic protected two people 2) the medic was informed later that one of the people he protected was hit. So unless some other double protecting medic wants to come out, Drazerk is the medic and since he protected someone I assume his claim is true (that he didn't know who he protected at first and then he did later) You can't fake claim that shit unless it was real lol Draz also claimed a hit, so if he is telling the truth, there must be at least 1 other protective role. With the jailer that already flipped, does it really make sense for town to have 3 medics? I think not.
It's 2 medics, you should know better than that.
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Why thw fuck did you save kitaman? Seriously...?
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VIGI SHOOT KITA ASAP! OK?
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Greymist. Come up with a better case than kita, or drazerk? Can you? or just consolidade your vete between kita/chaoser/drazerk.
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Oh really, i won't give a shit now. CYA tomorrow..
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On September 30 2011 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
raynpelikoneet, I see you have posted in the other game. Could you give your thoughts on today's lynch please?
Sorry, just caught on and read all the comments after daychange. I'm pretty sure one of cyber/TS is scum, if you would ask me, i'd go with cyber rather than TS.
And also i don't think heist is scum anymore, as i thought before.
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On September 30 2011 09:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 08:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Cyber, I'm trying to decide if you are a scum or just a newbie. I'm not sure I understand your case on Trance. How is it a scum agenda for him trying to move votes away from Palmar? That fact that there hasn't really been any opposition kinda worries me. Heist and GGQ come in with 1 liners, jumping on you, and Pyo and rayn have been completely absent.
Could you please explain your thought process on day two and day three for not voting iGrok? Also, why were you unwilling to switch on day 4 to save me, after I basically confirmed myself as town? It might be time for a role claim considering it seems pretty likely you're going to get lynched today. Radfield's agenda was to move votes to Jackal over Palmar, therefore whatever they were thinking, it's a scum agenda. I think the scum saw more potential for Jackal to pick up his game than for Palmar. I was asleep during your presentation of evidence, I'm only awake now because I stayed back at work. As I've said multiple times, timezones were partially at fault for not last minute bandwagoning. I'm Meriadoc Brandybuck, Hobbit of the Fellowship.
If noone counteclaims, I should say i'm stupid, and we should kill TS. :o
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BTW, i assume you have had a possibility to PM with someone, right?
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