Cosmic Horror Mafia - Page 3

On August 26 2011 19:21 Palmar wrote:


You're clearly not reading the thread. None of the people pushing Wiggles think he's EA over any other kind of anti-town entity. I have no idea if he's the EA, and neither does Ferryman.

The reason people are defending me is because it's sensible to defend me. You're new to this game so I'm leaning that the reason you ignore facts, don't read the thread and approach the game from the point you're doing, is because you're unintentionally bad, instead of Mr. Wiggles's accusation of me which is almost certainly maliciously bad.

The fact that Wiggles has tried to swing a vote on me in a game where I am in my opinion radiating townie sunshine all over, is especially incriminating, because it's bad play, and wiggles isn't a bad player. By elimination the only remaining option is Wiggles being maliciously bad, which is almost certainly the case.

I still need to form an opinion on you, but I was leaning town. Now that you have proved to me you aren't reading the thread, I need another look.

On August 27 2011 09:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'm fine with being checked, but what indication do we have that the psychologist actually visits me? I don't want him to not listen, show up dead, and then I get lynched.

If we have everyone vote, he should just vote for who he's visiting.

##Visit: Wiggles

If I turn out to be psychologist

##Visit: JeeJee

On August 27 2011 12:27 chaos13 wrote:
I think the psychologist should do whatever they feel like. Too often the town majority ends up failing hard. Blue roles are distributed to individuals for this very reason.

On August 28 2011 06:54 Jackal58 wrote:

Are you suggesting there is a traitor role in this game? If there is it's not in the OP. Do you know something we don't?
Is that why you killed Palmar?


Jee Jee if it wasn't for the U Mad at the end I'd briefly consider coincidence.

On August 28 2011 10:17 JeeJee wrote:
i'll put my closing thoughts after day wraps up, before i'm officially dead. i already have it written up, hence the defeatist tone. there's nothing more for me to say, plus it's 10/12 already . wanna make this a 24hr day so this pain stops quicker? :X

On August 28 2011 06:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
At this point, I think wiggles is clean:
If I were the mafia, I'd choose someone intelligent, active, and that was trying to get an innocent lynched

On August 28 2011 21:00 Jackal58 wrote:

Only scum want a short day. Y U scum Cyber?

On August 28 2011 22:04 chaos13 wrote:


You want us all to give you our town reads? What does that accomplish? It just gives scum better targets, because if 7 people think player A is town, and player A isn't on the mafia team, then who do you think they're gonna hit? Probably player A, and then we're short a trustworthy townie.

I'll work on looking at JeeJee's posts and seeing if I can find similarities/connections to other players right now. Post what I find in a bit.

On August 29 2011 02:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Finding EA on day 1 is sub-optimal. It's a lot better to try to find him from now on, but only if we are very certain of his flip, and have a good target for a mafia lynch as well. I'm pretty sure I said something about this on Day 1, that finding the EA on the first day is the least optimal day to lynch him on, as we have the least information available, and thus can make the least use of the extra lynch.

Why so scummy, JeeJee? Hiding behind "eliminating a town threat" rhetoric, when it was the worst time to kill the horror and the day we would be most likely to mislynch anyways.

Also, to keep track:

#Of insane people 0-1/12

On August 29 2011 08:05 Forumite wrote:

You don´t think it would have been a good idea to tell us earlier!? Seriously! You are just hurting Town when you act like this. We are not going to lynch a blue who is most likely getting killed directly after claiming anyway, but you don´t give us much time to find another target.

Okay, who did you check during the first night?

##Unvote

On August 30 2011 07:10 chaos13 wrote:


I would suggest the Psychologist don't visit Jackal, precisely because he is the EA. I'm going to vote Jackal tomorrow and be pushing for his lynch, so what is the point in causing our psych to kill himself by visiting Jackal?

On August 29 2011 22:09 chaos13 wrote:


No, it's that you spent 3 hours looking for breadcrumbs. I know you've given an explanation already, but I'm not buying it. I can see taking 3 hours looking back through the thread and trying to analyze while you wait for him to call, but why were you looking for breadcrumbs? Let's go through each role and see what motivation they would have for that.

Townie - No logical reason. Maybe they're looking for psych/doctor, but what will they do with that information? They have no way to figure out if it is a lie or not, since anyone can breadcrumb anything when the role PM's are in the OP.

Doctor - Looking for psych so they can protect them. Unfortunately, this possibility is ruled out since Palmar already flipped doc.

Psychologist - Same as Townie. EA sure as hell isn't going to breadcrumb their role, and players don't know if they're sane or not so they can't crumb whether or not they've been visited. No point in it.

Mafia - Looking for doc or (maybe) psychologist to take them out early on.

EA - After there had been a plan or two pushed for that included the psychologist breadcrumbing their role, this makes perfect sense. Maybe the psych is an inexperienced player who did it before understanding how the plan was detrimental, or maybe they're an experienced player who did the same. EA wants to remove the only barrier to their win condition as soon as possible. Visit the psych, and you've reduced the number of sane players by 1 and also prevented future obstacles. The psych is the only one likely to have breadcrumbed (except mafia :p ) and now that the doc is dead the EA is the only one likely to be looking for it.


So the only two roles that it actually seems reasonable to spend so much time searching for crumbs are anti-town. Even in games as mafia when I was searching for crumbs to find blue roles I never spent that much time, and in this setup there are no hugely anti-mafia power roles.
As far as mafia is concerned, the psych helps them if they are visited by EA. This is the only logical conclusion. Jackal found JeeJee's post, and figured he could gain some town cred by pointing it out.

On August 30 2011 10:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I'm thinking we should

##Visit Chaos13

because of these two posts



That's the whole point, it's like extra details we can help turn into a case against him




Why can't any role go through and try to figure out who's who?

On August 31 2011 03:25 chaos13 wrote:


You're doing an excellent job of voting for me with no explanation and completely ignoring my request to pressure me if you think I'm suspicious. If you want to vote for me, don't leave the information where it's at. Ask me questions and see if my responses are still scummy. Point out the mafia/EA objectives I have been pushing this game. If at the end of the day I'm still your #1 suspect, so be it. Don't do a one-liner vote.

On September 02 2011 01:12 Forumite wrote:
Tnkted, in this case it appears that you are part of a voting pattern. Normally there shouldn´t be any, at least not one that is easy to find, but I found something that looked like a pattern, and it lead us to one scum. It also leads to you, which makes me think you are scum too.

The FoS from JeeJee was his way of distancing himself from you two immediately after getting under fire for his breadcrumb. He mentioned you two by names, you were the first two to jump on it, maybe because of just this reason, so you would get some towncred for agreeing with a scum-lynch.

On September 02 2011 03:47 Jackal58 wrote:

Erandorr is being replaced for not voting. He's not being modkilled, he's being replaced. I think that says something about what Erandorr is.