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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:47 GMT
#3110
On January 21 2012 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 21 2012 09:34 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:08 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:05 supersoft wrote:
who replaced erandorr btw? (or am I completely wrong right now?)

I did


Funny that erandorr refuses to play games when he rolls scum... :-(


he was mafia in that 80 player game. I made a case about him early on (like d2?), placed a fos on him, telling him to start playing. Still remember it because I was really pissed later on that I did not push for his lynch :p


I need your read on sandroba now!!! :D
sorry. I need to gather some informations. I might mason you tomorrow. Discussing this game in german is much easier.
Otherwise I'll have to take jayjay. :-/
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:49 GMT
#3111
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
risk.nuke
BM
BC
sandroba
VE
Meapak

Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers.

CC

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On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

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On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
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On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


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On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 00:53 GMT
#3112
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote:
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
risk.nuke
BM
BC
sandroba
VE
Meapak

Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

Quotes in spoilers are marked with red numbers.

CC

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.



ah forget what i said. I think this guy is legit. Painting him green.
I kind of buy his "forgot the towntag"-story ....

However it's remarkable that he accuses CC together with BM...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 01:11 GMT
#3134
On January 21 2012 10:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
fuck I just read the vote tally from flamewheel... far to many votes on BM

OK, I dont know if this is the right move, but I dont want to risk losing Protac:

I Am A Detective. obviously I got a red check on Sandroba night one. Some scum will try to argue that he was framed or miller bullshit. but his check matchs with his actions.

Now go vote Sandro and NOT BM for now!!!!!

With that Im late to work. DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!



hmm you realize that sandroba was suspicious day1 and he would have been the perfect framertarget...
Anyway. I trust you there. Because as scum, this claim is incredibly dumb and as town it is okay.
Let's do it.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 01:19 GMT
#3146
what's sandrobas role, hiro?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 10:24 GMT
#3289
I agree on glurio. I already stated why. I dont buy his didnt mason anyone story. Did he respond yet? didnt look for that.
Furthermore I think wbg is town now, just because sandro flipped scum. wbg was on sandro from day1 on in our PMs.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 10:43 GMT
#3291
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 11:41 GMT
#3295
On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 19:43 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.


I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post.

STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots.


wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 11:59 GMT
#3298
On January 21 2012 20:48 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 20:41 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:43 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.


I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post.

STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots.


wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them.


don't say something with your own words, if someone else already phrased it with better words.

from the general guide to mafia:

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As a general rule, normal townies should not attempt to direct blue roles or try to find out who is blue and who is not. Town power roles work better if the mafia are uncertain of what the blue roles will do. It is not uncommon for the mafia to have anti-blue roles such as roleblockers, medics, framers, etc. Therefore, if the mafia has a general idea that the medic will protect X, or the DT will check Y, they are free to mess with those actions if they feel it to be necessary. Do not make medic lists, DT lists, or vig lists, as they are generally unhelpful or even detrimental to the town . As long as you are doing a good job of posting constructively and sharing your suspicions, good blue roles who are reading the thread should have the information to know what to do. Don’t direct their actions just because you suspect they are incompetent.



the general guide didnt fall from heaven, engraved in stone.
This is a opinion of some guy and I have my own. In this individual case, it's fairly obvious that the almost confirmed DT needs some protection.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 12:09 GMT
#3301
On January 21 2012 21:02 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 20:59 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 20:48 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 21 2012 20:41 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:43 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.


I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post.

STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots.


wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them.


don't say something with your own words, if someone else already phrased it with better words.

from the general guide to mafia:

As a general rule, normal townies should not attempt to direct blue roles or try to find out who is blue and who is not. Town power roles work better if the mafia are uncertain of what the blue roles will do. It is not uncommon for the mafia to have anti-blue roles such as roleblockers, medics, framers, etc. Therefore, if the mafia has a general idea that the medic will protect X, or the DT will check Y, they are free to mess with those actions if they feel it to be necessary. Do not make medic lists, DT lists, or vig lists, as they are generally unhelpful or even detrimental to the town . As long as you are doing a good job of posting constructively and sharing your suspicions, good blue roles who are reading the thread should have the information to know what to do. Don’t direct their actions just because you suspect they are incompetent.



the general guide didnt fall from heaven, engraved in stone.
This is a opinion of some guy and I have my own. In this individual case, it's fairly obvious that the almost confirmed DT needs some protection.


and it will be obvious to the medics as well. but you kind of destroy the shadow of doubt for scum.

I don't agree with your call here, sorry.


" but you kind of destroy the shadow of doubt for scum. "

this sentence doesnt make any sense. How does the scumteam know whether the medics really listen to me?
Trust me. They put enough effort in the process of finding their target. Their heads explode when they think about whether to shot hiro or not. They have to get rid of him or he'll continue to confirm townies and kill scum :D

We don't even need shadow of doubt. What we need, is a save DT.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 13:37 GMT
#3314
On January 21 2012 21:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
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On January 21 2012 21:19 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No, they'll RB him continously, if they haven't got any other obvious target. Why risk protection?


I don't even....



@supersoft: I just think that without directing blues, the scum target choice will be even harder. whatever.

where we agree is that a DT is pretty good, so we should keep him


On January 21 2012 21:19 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No, they'll RB him continously, if they haven't got any other obvious target. Why risk protection?


On January 21 2012 20:41 supersoft wrote:
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On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:43 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.


I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post.

STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots.


wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them.


hahahaha thanks jaj!
You're basically right jay, but in this case, I know that our heromedics will screw up if we don't tell them what to do.
Because the end of the story is a dead DT and a medic in the postgame analysis like: "wtf i thought they only RB him."
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 21 2012 13:46 GMT
#3318
btw. one more thought. We might have something like a tracker. So I am not even sure if scum wants to RB hiro ;-)
HEY DEAR SCUMTEAM! Tracker would be awesome right??? :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 11:58 GMT
#3545
spontaniously I'd vote for ~opz~ / bumatlarge / glurio
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 11:59 GMT
#3546
On January 22 2012 20:58 supersoft wrote:
spontaniously I'd vote for ~opz~ / bumatlarge / glurio


jitsu and nisani also look not too townish...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 13:49 GMT
#3552
On January 22 2012 21:02 p4NDemik wrote:
supersoft are you seriously still making posts that are this unhelpful? You cannot be town and be such an active mafia player like you are supposed to be.


you realize that i dont spit out these names for fun.
Do you think one of them is town and why
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 13:57 GMT
#3554
On January 22 2012 21:07 p4NDemik wrote:
His biggest defense has been Foolishness and BC going to a post that supersoft made on the 15th. Something that he didn't bring up himself. That has literally been the best they have been able to muster. The defense of supersoft thus far this game has been pitiful.


dude you're terribly overestimating yourself. I am town and you have no good case. Noone is listening to you - not because they're all scum - but rather because your case is bad. But I want to thank you at this point. Your effort is probably what keeps me alive in this game. Scum won't shoot me because then you actually might find one of them and tunnel him endlessly.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 14:30 GMT
#3557
On January 22 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 14 2012 16:46 sandroba wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.

Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line.

I was walking down the street one day and I suddenly a foul scent hit my nose. I was like what the shit, where the fuck is this coming from? Did I just step on human fesses or what? After checking my feet and realizing it was clean I looked around and spotted a horrid looking creature that dropped 2 terrible posts in the begging of a game then was never heard of again. It was ciryandor. Protact had warned me about his unpleasant presence. Right then I decided I would rid the world of such disturbing annoyance and thus I hit him repeatedly over the head with my grandma's shoes. He finally succumbed, bored into oblivion. I felt victorious after checking my grandma's shoes and realizing a crimson taint had soaked them. Life was good. Being mayor made me proud. The whole idea of being elected to kill some random dude and being able to single handedly execute it was exciting. I stretched out my arm and an eagle landed on it. Fuck yes I'm a boss.


I just want to remind people that this is probably the fucking funniest thing I've ever read while going back through people's posts.

I laughed so hard at this LOL.

Anyway, something funny that struck me from sandro's filter is this:


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On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.


Like, all the people sandro wants to lynch, I'm pretty sure, were scum; most likely scum that he felt he could not defend any longer. This is actually what sandro does as scum; he busses people like hell because he thinks they are super obvious scum to everyone.

Macpo he could not defend because Foolish/Protact attacked him. L he could not defend because everyone saw he was playing the same way he played in Responsibility. Is it a stretch to say that he could not defend GGQ either? I don't think so.

Also note how he tells myself, super, and toad to "get off my balls." This makes all 3 of us look far more town.

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On January 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
@BC LOL man you could have redacted a few parts from that shit that I don't even remember talking about.

WBG, supersoft and toadstem need to get off my balls. My weekends are pretty busy and I did my best with the little time I had. I don't even know why the fuck you are calling me mafia on the first place.

As for who I think is mafia I got GGQ, Jackal and rgtICEMAN. I'm going to read dead guy's filters before I choose which one to push today, but they could very easily be all mafia. Brb.


Also note how he later rescinds his opinion about Jackal (he flips from day 1 liking Jackal to not liking Jackal to being unsure)

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On January 17 2012 03:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm not quite sure on him because jackal is freaking jackal, but last time he was town i could tell right away and he did put in some effort and got killed early on. He just seems lazy and jumping on convenient stuff and he is back to his usual useless one line posting which he used to do as both alignments. He's either made a step back or he is scum this game, I need more to decide accurately, but I'm leaning scum on him atm.


whereas for L, GGQ, Macpo, and Ciryandor he's just like "fuck man this guy's scum he smells fucking bad kill him" The only exception is when Macpo is seriously close to dying, then he sheds some doubt on the lynch.

Meapak, I think, has been correct about GGQ this entire time, but just hasn't been going about it properly. Of course, our job is easy; if GGQ is not scum, I'm almost 100% sure Meapak is, because that's the only target he's tunneled. The reason I say this is because Meapak has had several days to contribute and yet he's always been focused on tunneling GGQ. Normally I'd be uncomfortable with aligning flips like that, and certainly if GGQ is town it'd be difficult to lynch Meapak (since there are things in Meapak's filter, notably what he said about L, that make him look town) but I think we have to consider the big picture instead of letting little things prevent us from making hard decisions.



wbg please tell me how you meant that red bolded statement.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 15:01 GMT
#3564
On January 22 2012 23:46 jaj22 wrote:
Yeah, the only question is whether it tells us anything about BM's alignment. I'm not sure that it does.



who did you replace?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 22 2012 15:03 GMT
#3566
4 jayjay

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[15:02] <supersoft> scumteamtreffen im irc oder wat
[15:02] <Toad|> ist immer so viel los
[15:02] <supersoft> so also
[15:02] <supersoft> gehn wirs mal an
[15:02] <Toad|> nur eran ist neu für mich
[15:02] <supersoft> ääh gib ma deine email
[15:02] <supersoft> dann schick ich dir mal was rüber
[15:02] <Toad|> erik-kalle@freenet.nde
[15:02] <Toad|> @freenet.de
[15:02] <supersoft> damit wir quasi simultan dran abreiten können
[15:04] <supersoft> wer ist denn heute nach alles gestorben
[15:04] <supersoft> ääg
[15:04] <supersoft> icognito+
[15:05] <Toad|> ggq
[15:05] <Toad|> protact
[15:05] <Toad|> scamp
[15:05] <supersoft> ggq
[15:05] <supersoft> k
[15:05] <Toad|> haste mir schon was geschickt?
[15:06] <Toad|> bis jetzt is noch nichts da
[15:06] <supersoft> so jetzt
[15:06] <supersoft> habs grad ein wenig aktualisiert
[15:06] <supersoft> das sind so 3 listen die ich am anfang mal angelegt habe
[15:06] <supersoft> ich wollte die eigentlich immer mit denjenigen durchsprechen die ich gemasoend habe
[15:06] <supersoft> unglücklicherweise
[15:06] <supersoft> habe ich L und sandroba gewählt
[15:07] <supersoft> die zwei waren halt nicht ganz so kooperativ
[15:07] <supersoft> wie ich mir das vorgestellt hatte
[15:07] <supersoft> und beide sind dann auch recht schnell gestorben
[15:07] <supersoft> naja
[15:07] <Toad|> hab immernoch meine probleme VE einzuschätzen
[15:08] <Toad|> bei dem kerl krieg ich so die krise :p
[15:08] <supersoft> ja warte
[15:08] <supersoft> also mein plan ist folgender
[15:08] <supersoft> jeder typ
[15:08] <supersoft> der irgendwie was gutes gemacht hat
[15:08] <supersoft> der wird mal rausgenommen
[15:09] <Toad|> gut wie hat mafia gefunden oder gut wie er posted wie nen townie?
[15:09] <supersoft> ganz genau
[15:09] <supersoft> also
[15:09] <supersoft> wer hat alles irgendwas geclaimed
[15:10] <supersoft> VE war jack oder?
[15:10] <Toad|> hiro / erandorr sind dt und denke confirmed town
[15:10] <supersoft> jitsu glurio und BC sind mason
[15:10] <supersoft> ja
[15:10] <supersoft> hab ich blau in meiner liste
[15:10] <supersoft> hast du sie inzwischen?
[15:10] <Toad|> jojo
[15:11] <supersoft> dann
[15:11] <supersoft> ich hab grad mal alle wieder weiß gemacht
[15:11] <supersoft> außer erandorr und kita
[15:12] <supersoft> kita ist für mich deshalb town,
[15:12] <supersoft> weil am anfang hat er ja als mayor kandidiert
[15:12] <supersoft> und cyriandor hat ihn direkt fertig gemacht
[15:12] <supersoft> und irgendwie geschrieben er will lieber sandroba oder palmar
[15:12] <supersoft> palmar ist town
[15:12] <Toad|> jo
[15:13] <supersoft> und irgendwie war von vornherein nicht absehbar, dass er nicht kandidiert
[15:13] <supersoft> und sandroba war mafia
[15:13] <Toad|> denke auch kita ist town und habe nur mit einem post von ihm nem problem
[15:13] <supersoft> welcher?
[15:13] <Toad|> glaube er hat am anfang in seiner campagne gesagt "ich werde euch keine tipps geben wie man blues spielt und euch nicht sagen dass man als vig nicht d1 schießen soll"
[15:13] <Toad|> sowas in der art
[15:14] <supersoft> ja
[15:14] <supersoft> gut
[15:14] <Toad|> impliziert natürlich ziemlich hart dass er es gerade doch tut
[15:14] <supersoft> das ist halt so geschwätze
[15:14] <Toad|> und gerade mit dem ganzen bluesniping hier
[15:14] <supersoft> das stimmt schon von den masons haben sie noch keinen abgeknallt
[15:14] <supersoft> ist auch klar
[15:14] <supersoft> weil ich gehe stark davon aus,
[15:14] <supersoft> dass ihre masons alle geclaimed haben
[15:14] <supersoft> und wenn sie jetzt die townmasons wegschiessen
[15:15] <supersoft> dann bleiben nur ihre übrig
[15:15] <supersoft> wäre natürlich scheisse
[15:15] <Toad|> jo
[15:15] <Toad|> aber krass wie viele vigs schon down sind
[15:15] <supersoft> deshalb bin ich auch der ansicht, dass mindestens einer von glurio und jitsu mafia ist
[15:15] <Toad|> da versteht jemand was er tut
[15:16] <supersoft> 3 stück ne
[15:16] <supersoft> ähm ach noch was wichtiges
[15:16] <Toad|> glaube
[15:16] <supersoft> hat incognito irgendwelche checks
[15:16] <supersoft> so zwischen die zeilen geschrieben?
[15:17] <Toad|> naja er hat nen paar reads gegeben die er nur wenig begründet hat
[15:17] <supersoft> okay dann egal
[15:17] <supersoft> schau dir mal jayjay an
[15:17] <supersoft> was sagste?
[15:17] <Toad|> jayjay ist klar town imo
[15:18] <supersoft> gut
[15:18] <supersoft> das sehe ich auch so
[15:18] <Toad|> versucht ernsthaft zu helfen, ist wohl neu aber er ist offen mit dem was er sagt
[15:18] <supersoft> p4ndemic
[15:18] <supersoft> (abgesehen davon, dass er sich in mich verliebt hat)
[15:18] <Toad|> p4n wird schon nen bissel komisch. würde eigentlich genau das selbe wie bei jj sagen aber er übertreibt es halt so krass
[15:18] <supersoft> ja
[15:19] <supersoft> nebenbei
[15:19] <Toad|> würde auch town sagen
[15:19] <supersoft> lass uns den log ins forum stellen
[15:19] <supersoft> dann kann jayjay das ganze lesen
[15:19] <supersoft> die andren verstehns nicht
[15:19] <Toad|> jo
[15:19] <supersoft> :D
[15:19] <Toad|> kk
[15:19] <supersoft> ist ganz praktisch
[15:19] <supersoft> so holen wir ihn quasi in unser masonding mit rein
[15:19] <Toad|> :D
[15:20] <supersoft> so weiter
[15:20] <supersoft> WBG
[15:20] <Toad|> ja wbg ist natürlich total kacke für mich^^
[15:20] <Toad|> also da neutral zu bleiben
[15:21] <supersoft> versuch mal objektiv was zu sagen
[15:21] <supersoft> ich hab mir meine gedanken über ihn gemacht
[15:21] <supersoft> :D
[15:21] <supersoft> ich muss dich ja auch ein bisschen testen ;-)
[15:22] <Toad|> also ich denke dass er extrem tunnelt, denkt er sei extrem richtig und generell nicht viel auf andere hört
[15:22] <Toad|> aber das macht er soweit ich weiß als townie auhc
[15:22] <supersoft> jaaa
[15:22] <supersoft> also
[15:22] <supersoft> was wbg macht
[15:22] <Toad|> habe seinen filter gelesen und abgesehen von der tatsache dass er mich so extrem tunnelt nur weil er mir den d1 read auf palmar nicht gegeben hat hab ich nichts gefunden dass ihn als mafia wirken lässt
[15:22] <supersoft> wenn er mafia ist
[15:22] <supersoft> er schleimt sich bei leuten ein
[15:23] <Toad|> jo also wie gesagt, er ist extrem komisch und wenn wir 8 mafias gekriegt haben und nicht mehr weiter wissen hab ich nichts dagegen ihn zu lynchen
[15:23] <Toad|> aber vorher sage ich, dass er town ist
[15:24] <supersoft> also
[15:24] <supersoft> ich hatte eigentlich auch diesen eindruck
[15:25] <supersoft> dass er eher town ist
[15:25] <supersoft> was mir gar nicht gefällt
[15:25] <Toad|> ach da fällt mir gerade ein
[15:25] <Toad|> es gab auch bei ihm eigentlich nur einen post der mir nicht gefallen hat
[15:25] <supersoft> ja
[15:25] <supersoft> der eine in dem er uns drei erwähnt
[15:25] <supersoft> ich schau grad
[15:25] <supersoft> der ist extrem sonderbar
[15:25] <Toad|> irgendwo hat er postet "sandroba hat gemeint 'toad, SS und wbg need to get off my balls'"
[15:25] <Toad|> genau
[15:25] <supersoft> haha schon
[15:26] <supersoft> ich muss nur mal schaun
[15:26] <supersoft> ob er das eher auf dich bezieht
[15:26] <Toad|> wirkt so extrem gekünstelt als ob er unbedingt towncred braucht
[15:26] <supersoft> und meint er selbst wäre in bezug auf dich falsch
[15:26] <supersoft> ja
[15:26] <supersoft> oder so
[15:26] <supersoft> warte
[15:26] <supersoft> es kann sein, dass ers einfach unglücklich formuliert hat
[15:27] <Toad|> ja es stach halt komplett raus für mich
[15:27] <Toad|> er ist 3 tage an meinem hintern und verfolgt mich wie verrückt
[15:27] <Toad|> posted dann plötzlich "ach übrigens das lässt uns 3 gut ausschaun"
[15:27] <Toad|> und macht weiter mit seiner tunnelei gegen mich
[15:27] <supersoft> ja
[15:27] <supersoft> nee
[15:28] <supersoft> das ist schlecht formuliert
[15:28] <supersoft> er bringt das eher so als argument
[15:28] <supersoft> gegen uns
[15:28] <supersoft> als
[15:28] <supersoft> o
[15:28] <Toad|> haste mal nen link?
[15:28] <supersoft> dagegen, dass wir beide mafia sind
[15:28] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=60039&currentpage=All
[15:28] <supersoft> untere 10%
[15:28] <supersoft> der seite
[15:29] <Toad|> wieso klappt ctrl+f nicht mehr 8(
[15:30] <supersoft> ich habs mal gequotet
[15:30] <supersoft> und ihn gefragt
[15:30] <supersoft> wie er das so meint
[15:31] <supersoft> warten wirs mal ab
[15:31] <supersoft> was er darauf antwortet.
[15:31] <supersoft> weiter im text
[15:31] <Toad|> jo
[15:31] <supersoft> risk.nuke
[15:31] <Toad|> also wenn er es echt "gut" meint ist das doof :p
[15:31] <supersoft> was sagste
[15:31] <Toad|> schwer, hatte nen d1 read
[15:31] <Toad|> d1 town read
[15:31] <supersoft> alles klar
[15:31] <Toad|> einfach weil ich nicht glaube, dass nen mafia so ne mayor kampagne bringen würde
[15:32] <supersoft> sehe ich auch so
[15:32] <supersoft> ja
[15:32] <supersoft> risk.nuke ist nicht der hellste
[15:32] <supersoft> aber nichtsdestotrotz krass selbstbewusst
[15:32] <supersoft> irgendwie flacht seine aktivität gerade ziemlich ab
[15:32] <Toad|> jo
[15:32] <supersoft> liegt vielleicht an der größe des spiels
[15:33] <supersoft> er ist wahrscheinich etwas überfordert
[15:33] <Toad|> ab d3 hab ich auch mafia reads gekriegt von im
[15:33] <supersoft> und findet gerade keinen den er tunneln kann
[15:33] <supersoft> jaa muss aber nicht sein
[15:33] <supersoft> ich würde sagen town
[15:33] <supersoft> einfach nutzlos
[15:33] <Toad|> naja das problem an dem d1 read ist halt, dass wenn er echt mafia ist
[15:33] <supersoft> dann wäre er gut
[15:33] <supersoft> :D
[15:33] <Toad|> dann kann genauso gut wer andres ihm gesagt haben was er machen soll
[15:33] <supersoft> nee
[15:34] <supersoft> den käse da hat er selbst fabriziert
[15:34] <supersoft> weil
[15:34] <Toad|> :p
[15:34] <supersoft> es ist ja klar
[15:34] <supersoft> den wählt ja keiner
[15:34] <supersoft> ka warum sollte das scumteam den dann in den krieg schicken
[15:34] <supersoft> wenn er eh nix reißt
[15:34] <supersoft> im prinzip war das wohl irgendwie so ne aktion
[15:34] <Toad|> eben genau um so leute wie dich und mich zu verwirren ;d
[15:34] <supersoft> die keiner außer ihm selbst versteht
[15:34] <supersoft> jaa
[15:34] <Toad|> aber jo denke auch das macht wenig sinn
[15:35] <Toad|> ist halt risiko instant 1 mafia buddy zu verlieren
[15:35] <supersoft> jaa
[15:35] <supersoft> der ist halt einfach so
[15:35] <Toad|> und wenn es klappt hat man nen noob der wie nen townie ausschaut wohoo
[15:35] <supersoft> in electionmafia
[15:35] <supersoft> ist er auch total steil gegangen
[15:35] <supersoft> weil er dachte ich hätte 3 meiner teammates gebusst
[15:36] <supersoft> (wie auch immer man das auf deutsch sagt)
[15:36] <supersoft> "ans messer geliefert"
[15:36] <supersoft> nur um towncred zu bekommen
[15:36] <supersoft> also der knabe
[15:36] <supersoft> ist jenseits von gut und böse
[15:36] <Toad|> ach da das ja auch deutsch ist muss man auch nicht aufpassen wen man hier beleidigt und wen nicht :p
[15:37] <Toad|> außer natürlich jayjay: wenn du das ließt, du bist ganz toll :3
[15:37] <Toad|> aber ja, risk ist townie read für mich, nicht der sicherste aber denke doch dass ich da recht habe
[15:38] <supersoft> ach
[15:38] <supersoft> lese gerade
[15:38] <supersoft> opz is auch mason
[15:38] <Toad|> hast du irgend ne reiheinfolge in der du durch gehst?
[15:38] <Toad|> jo
[15:38] <supersoft> ähm nö
[15:38] <supersoft> ist zufall :D
[15:38] <supersoft> cshlag du den nächsten vor
[15:39] <Toad|> alles lurker oder vets übrig...^^
[15:39] <supersoft> scheisse
[15:39] <Toad|> mit nisani hab ich meine probleme
[15:39] <supersoft> ja
[15:39] <Toad|> was hälst du von ihm?
[15:39] <supersoft> den kann man einfach mal weglynchen
[15:39] <Toad|> also den kann ich halt überhaupt nicht einschätzen
[15:39] <supersoft> keine frage
[15:40] <supersoft> ach
[15:41] <supersoft> du hast da irgendwo geschrieben
[15:41] <supersoft> du wärst blau
[15:41] <Toad|> bin VET
[15:41] <Toad|> wenn du das meinst
[15:41] <supersoft> "I know I'm blue as well"
[15:41] <Toad|> hab ich auch im thread geclaimed
[15:41] <supersoft> k
[15:41] <supersoft> verstehe
[15:41] <supersoft> ach
[15:41] <supersoft> ich komm nicht hinterher
[15:41] <supersoft> mit den ganzen claims
[15:42] <supersoft> we hat denn noch irgendwas geclaimed
[15:42] <Toad|> ja
[15:42] <Toad|> hab mir alle aufgeschrieben bei mir
[15:42] <Toad|> aber kann ctrl+f aus irgend nem grund nicht benutzen sonst würde ich einfach claim suchen 8(
[15:43] <supersoft> jo macht nix
[15:43] <supersoft> okay
[15:43] <supersoft> ähm ja
[15:44] <Toad|> jetzt wirds so langsam schwerer :D
[15:44] <supersoft> wür müssen uns dann wohl ode übel durch die lurker durchqühlen
[15:44] <supersoft> w
[15:44] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329
[15:44] <Toad|> lanaia würde ich noch nen townread geben
[15:44] <supersoft> go
[15:44] <supersoft> ja
[15:44] <supersoft> das mädel
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:44] <supersoft> so lustig
[15:44] <supersoft> ich hab in nem andren spiel
[15:44] <Toad|> also die ist halt einfach so wishy-washy
[15:44] <supersoft> JA
[15:44] <supersoft> ist die aber immer!
[15:44] <Toad|> mit wenig selbstvertrauen so wies ausschaut
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:45] <supersoft> jajaja
[15:45] <supersoft> süß
[15:45] <Toad|> aber genau das hat sie auch als town gemacht im XLVIII
[15:45] <supersoft> ich wüsste gerne mal wie sie aussieht
[15:45] <supersoft> bestimmt nix
[15:45] <supersoft> :-/
[15:45] <supersoft> aber okay
[15:45] <supersoft> picks or lynch
[15:45] <supersoft> oder sowas
[15:45] <supersoft> wäre doch mal gut
[15:45] <supersoft> jaj22
[15:45] <Toad|> ?
[15:45] <supersoft> go for it
[15:46] <Toad|> was ist picks or lynch
[15:46] <supersoft> äh
[15:46] <supersoft> ohne k
[15:46] <supersoft> lol
[15:46] <Toad|> soll ich sagen ob ich ihn lynchen will?
[15:46] <supersoft> nein mann
[15:46] <supersoft> :D
[15:46] <supersoft> ich meinte
[15:46] <supersoft> Bilder posten oder lynch
[15:46] <supersoft> in bezug auf lanaia
[15:46] <Toad|> aso
[15:46] <Toad|> 8(
[15:46] <supersoft> dude
[15:47] <Toad|> ja dachte du bist schon bei jaj22
[15:47] <supersoft> nee
[15:47] <supersoft> aber bei dem bin ich jetzt
[15:47] <supersoft> schau mal her
[15:47] <supersoft> was er über sandroba sagt
[15:47] <supersoft> yeah
[15:48] <Toad|> wann hat er eingewechselt?
[15:48] <Toad|> d2?
[15:48] <supersoft> ach
[15:48] <supersoft> für wen ist der eingewechselt?
[15:48] <supersoft> so ein scheiss
[15:48] <supersoft> :D
[15:48] <supersoft> ich dachte schon
[15:48] <supersoft> lolol steigt er einfach mal mit so nem sandroba macpop defense post ein
[15:49] <Toad|> hab grad kein peil für wen er eingestiegen ist
[15:49] <Toad|> warte müsste den post gespeichert haben irgendwo
[15:50] <Toad|> oder auch nicht
[15:50] <supersoft> ja egal
[15:50] <supersoft> jedenfalls
[15:50] <supersoft> defendet er 2 mafialeute
[15:51] <supersoft> und schreibt bei GGQ eine treffende einschätzung
[15:51] <supersoft> ohne jegliche analyse
[15:51] <Toad|> jo
[15:51] <Toad|> das hat dich und wbg aber auch schon dazu gebracht zu denken ich sei mafia :p
[15:52] <Toad|> also ich bin bis jetzt davon ausgegangen, dass jaj22 townie sei
[15:52] <supersoft> sieht aber nicht so aus
[15:52] <supersoft> wenn man seinen filter liest
[15:52] <supersoft> :D
[15:52] <Toad|> also auch als er meinte "@Toad: You know this isn't a majority lynch, right? I don't see any town reason to vote for someone you think is town this early."
[15:52] <Toad|> glaubst du nen mafia würde sowas sagen?
[15:53] <Toad|> die wollen ihre votes doch irgendwo unterbringen und er erinnert mich daran, dass es nicht extended majority ist?
[15:54] <supersoft> äh
[15:54] <supersoft> ja ka
[15:54] <supersoft> warum nicht
[15:55] <supersoft> ist ja nur so allgemeines blabla
[15:55] <supersoft> das geht immer gut
[15:55] <Toad|> auch wahr
[15:55] <supersoft> als ob sich irgendeiner an solche sachen halten würde
[15:55] <supersoft> das ist immer so
[15:55] <supersoft> wenn irgendeiner einen plan macht
[15:55] <supersoft> dann wird der niemals umgesetzt
[15:55] <Toad|> naja er stellt halt viele fragen
[15:56] <Toad|> hat keine angst davor jemanden anzugreifen
[15:56] <supersoft> warte wo
[15:56] <Toad|> naja er sagt zumindest paar mal dass ich schwachsinn poste
[15:57] <supersoft> ja
[15:57] <Toad|> also vonwegen modhunting
[15:57] <supersoft> naja
[15:57] <supersoft> dann warts ab
[15:57] <supersoft> hier wirds ihm auch irgendwann alles zu heiß
[15:57] <supersoft> und er schwenkt um und schlägt auf sandro ein
[15:57] <supersoft> das wars dann aber auch mit der aktivität
[15:57] <supersoft> :D
[15:57] <supersoft> ja
[15:58] <supersoft> was hälst du von orange
[15:58] <supersoft> also so vorstufe von mafia?
[15:58] <Toad|> "
[15:58] <Toad|> What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post."
[15:58] <Toad|> nach protacts case gegen mich
[15:58] <Toad|> weil protact meinte ich sei mafia, sandroba sei mafia, ggq sei mafia und macpo sei mafia
[15:58] <Toad|> was halt überhaupt keinen sinn gemacht hat
[15:58] <supersoft> geht
[15:58] <supersoft> lol
[15:59] <Toad|> aber gut orange ist in ordnung
[15:59] <Toad|> gott jetzt muss ich aber wissen für wen er replaced hat 8(
[16:00] <supersoft> ja
[16:00] <supersoft> schon
[16:00] <supersoft> ich bin auch verwirrt
[16:00] <supersoft> zeks?
[16:01] <Toad|> lol
[16:01] <Toad|> beide gleichzeitig gefragt
[16:01] <supersoft> das war dumm :D
[16:01] <supersoft> wobei geht
[16:01] <Toad|> jetzt weiß jeder dass du mich gemasont hast
[16:01] <supersoft> wir posten ja eh den log
[16:01] <Toad|> naja wer dein log gelesen hat hat das auch mitgekriegt
[16:01] <Toad|> naja wer dein log gelesen hat hat das auch mitgekriegt
[16:02] <supersoft> möglich ^_^
[16:02] <supersoft> ich poste den log mal für jayjay in den thread. Vielleicht ist er ja da und kann schon was ergänzend beitragen
supersoft
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January 22 2012 16:32 GMT
#3580
On January 23 2012 01:04 jaj22 wrote:
Google translate is fine, really. They're talking about whether I should be an orange read for flopping on Macpo and Sandroba at the end. To which I'd reply:

1. Macpo had something like 16 votes on him and was basically dead when I defended him. That would be some seriously dumb scum play. I eventually voted for him because he quit playing, like I said in the thread. I suspect scum had a lot more warning about that than I did.

2. I read a lot of Sandroba's games during day 3 to check his meta and came to the conclusion that he was at least plausible scum. Then he posted one drunken line in three days so I guessed he'd quit playing too.

I'm happier with those votes that my KingJames one, because I have a bad habit of reading people as scum just because they're abusive. I'd have voted GGQ otherwise in the situation though, and I'm pissed off at him for not trying even after Protact switched his read.



I'll check the macpo 16 vote thing later... you're orange that means don't lynch right now.
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