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On August 14 2011 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight but im kenpachi. i dont get shot
remember XXXIX where You were vigilante and shot scum roleblocker?
yeah
You were dead night after
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On August 14 2011 04:20 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:20 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight but im kenpachi. i dont get shot remember XXXIX where You were vigilante and shot scum roleblocker? yeah You were dead night after thats what you think
well if You can't die then it's amazing
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I honestly fucking hate being called useless and being lynched in favor of scum
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On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
PEdit
Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes.
So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort)
I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person.
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sorry for forgetting the most important thing about being town (aka painting Yourself as town so noone mislynches You -_-) I am done with arguing with Jackal, because as mentioned in many guides arguing with scum/tunnelers won't do any good because they won't change their minds. I am intrigued with deconduo and I shall observe his posting.
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On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.
I dislike the idea of Chezinu being Cult Leader. 3rd party of some sort (survivor?) yes, but not a cult leader. Enough of theorycrafting.
Deconduo, what is Your opinion about the lurkers? What we should do with them? I honestly think that we should use our vigi hits to deal with them (unless You have one bullet, it might be wise to save it)
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##Ban Kurumi
I am a rat. You don't get rid of the rats so easily.
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On August 14 2011 04:47 Mig wrote:Ok a couple things, kenpachi is clearly not a DT, he could not have checked someone already obviously. Pandain is known for fake claiming dt day 1 every game. So it could easily be a posting restriction and should be ignored. 2nd Jackal being required to push for bill murray's lynch is very fishy. It is unlikely they put a requirement forcing 2 townies to tunnel each other. When I have seen these type of posting restrictions in the past it is much more common for it to be forcing a mafia to target a specific townie. This doesn't prove jackal is mafia but he is certainly the most suspicious person to me right now. I could be wrong though, I am not the best mafia player 
The last line is the hint to his personality
My role pm says I need to care for L because he is out to hunt me down.
Poor Kurumi Murray the prey is hunted by JackaL58 the predator
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On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from? The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role.
role claim in pms when the game has no pms
right
and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast
liar
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On August 14 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:51 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from? The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role. role claim in pms when the game has no pms right and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast liar Somebody doesn't quite grasp the personality concept yet.
somebody is dumb enough to think that town will believe that someone pmed You with his role not even halfway through day 1
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On August 14 2011 05:02 Curu wrote:
Kurumi stop tunneling him. He claims he has to do it to you but you don't have to do it back unless you actually think he is Mafia for more than just accusing you.
Let's not make day 1 you two just tunnel fucking each other uselessly.
I am just pointing out that it makes no sense for anyone to do actions claimed to be done by Jackal. Well, I might as well go afk if You want.
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On August 14 2011 05:03 Kavdragon wrote:Look at the town go round and round with their spammy arguments. I'll be out of a job at this rate my old friend. Everyone is so unhappy with things, why can't we just get along? Brown isn't a third party, it's the ONLY party. Sad...Very sad. Very well, in an attempt to make people happy, I will read you all a letter I just intercepted. I don't know who it was for, but I found that the author is someone by the name of Uncle Screwtape Flamewheel! Show nested quote +Original Message From flamewheel:
Dear Walton,
I am pleased to see that your efforts to take over the town seem to be off to a swiming start. The town is caught up in their cute role-playing games, and even those who are calling them out are only role-playing themselves! Ha, this is sure to be an easy victory. First and foremost, you need to let the town do their own thing for a little while, nobody has shown up to really lead the town, and if you let them start the meham themselves, some townie will take the fall for it. So let them be, but once they start getting into the roleplaying, you MUST make sure that they continue posting only roleplay content, and nothing useful. Thankfully stage one is almost complete, and people are in shouting maches already! You will want to step in soon however, to avoid mod-kill, as that would be both a great victory for the town, and a travesty for the Mafia. I'm very interested in how this will all turn out, so don't dissapoint me.
Wishing to an early townie lynch, and swift lylo for town,
Flamewheel A curious message indeed I must say. I wonder who this mysterious Walton could be? Whatever his identity, I'd best be on the look out for the devious strategies Flamewheel mentioned. Who knows what dangers there may lurk beneith the surface here.
I think You are a mole bro
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oh nvn You intercepted the message
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i think i might have some tunnel googles on so i will post tomorrow with clear mind
is it ok? i am madsad right now
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oh also palmar
u haven't seen me being emotional in xxxix then
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On August 14 2011 06:13 Pandain wrote:Kurumi spam one more time and its a ban. But since I feel I am involved in this matter since we are both zergs(so broskis), I will leave it to the Will of the People. Poll: Ban Kurumi?Yes (9) 53% No (4) 24% Not in game but want to vote (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: Ban Kurumi? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not in game but want to vote
you're fucking day vigi and see 2 people having obvious relation between each other
I'd prefer killing jackal but cmon. kill me.
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On August 14 2011 06:23 tnkted wrote:
What if both jackie and Kurumi are town, they just have to push for the other's lynch? If they succeed perhaps they get special powers?
I DON'T HAVE ANY FLAVOUR ABOUT PUSHING FOR L's LYNCH
the only note I have is that L is hunting me
god damnit
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On August 14 2011 06:24 tnkted wrote:
The alternative is of course that BM is village idiot and just has to get lynched, while jackie has to push for the lynch. Kurumi certainly hasn't gone out of his way to hide his role.
a)
I am not Village Idiot, Mafia or any 3rd party You can imagine
b)
I am town
c)
I don't need to push for L's lynch. I have a note about him trying to kill me though.
d)
I want to get killed so You stop arguing over useless crap
e)
Palmar is cutie
f)
flamewheel is always town
g)
e and f are here because I am bored
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On August 14 2011 06:28 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 06:19 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about. the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy. Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though. Kurumi could have spammed his entire way through the game and I would have just assumed it was Kurumi being Kurumi. He had no compelling reason to post his personality name and mine in his first post of the game. If he is indeed scum that's his fault for outing himself with his first post. I could have ignored it but if you go and read the L and BM sections of the Mafia Quiz like I did you may also get the impression that Kurumi can kill me tonight. I am mentioned in his role PM apparently. So ya I have a compelling reason to want him dead. Coupled with Kenpachi's timing of his DT claim and who he claimed to have checked I am strongly beginning to believe that they are both scum.
so You want to kill me because You're scared about Your life?
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