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On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not.
Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.
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On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.
I dislike the idea of Chezinu being Cult Leader. 3rd party of some sort (survivor?) yes, but not a cult leader. Enough of theorycrafting.
Deconduo, what is Your opinion about the lurkers? What we should do with them? I honestly think that we should use our vigi hits to deal with them (unless You have one bullet, it might be wise to save it)
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On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not.
I'm saying Kurumi is not acting like BM, rather he is completely unhelpful and caused more harm to the thread than help.
Honestly, if anyone else spammed up the thread as much as he has, the lynch mob will be connived. The only reason why he's alive right now is because people think he has this post restriction so excuse him.
Currently the Kurumi issue is just a distraction, I'll just ignore everything about him from now on and make an ignore list.
Ignore list
Kurumi
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Ban List Initiated![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6IprbMSLAhU/S8-H-IJ-TPI/AAAAAAAAACQ/scVYWgd1aE8/s1600/10-commandments.jpg)
Enough is enough.
I will be initiating a ban list tablet. To enforce the intent of the rules as mentioned in the OP, I will reveal my role. I am Qatol, mighty upholder of the law.
Roles do no say that you must spam the game. + Show Spoiler + Unless you are Bill Murray.
I am Qatol, mighty father of the banlist. If someone goes out of control with spamming, I will #Ban them and remove them from the game.
DONT DO WHAT I DO ![[image loading]](http://www.rizzotees.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/stop-sign.jpg)
Furthormore, people should not be revealing their roles. Powers are linked to personalities and therefore allowing mafia to know personalities allows mafia to know roles. The reason I am claiming is because my power can only be used once, and mafia aren't going to just shoot me because I can stop spam.
We should ignore Kurumi, he's just playing a BM role, if not bill murray himself. He will offer nothing of useful substance, or at least anything that outweighs his horrendous spam.
Basically if you spam I will ban you. So yes, while this is a "fun" setup, this is still a setup. Spam only ruins the towns focus and prevents us from analyzing accurately.
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Foolishness
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Alas! Where does Incognito lurk when the level of spammers has risen tored?
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I'm assuming Kenpachi is Pandain, and that's why he's claiming DT on day 1. (PS, he isn't one)
Foolishness is Kav.
Again, can people stop talking about Kurumi? He's spamming up the thread at this point, and it doesn't matter whether he's BM or not. If we don't like how he's acting, we vig him tonight.
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##Ban Kurumi
I am a rat. You don't get rid of the rats so easily.
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On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.
On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
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On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
That's his claimed posting restriction, as I'm sure you know, so what was the point of that exactly?
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On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks.
Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1.
What's the big VI jump from?
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On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
Don't count me. I am compelled to advocate his death.
Kenpachi may also be Proactinium.
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Ok a couple things, kenpachi is clearly not a DT, he could not have checked someone already obviously. Pandain is known for fake claiming dt day 1 every game. So it could easily be a posting restriction and should be ignored.
2nd Jackal being required to push for bill murray's lynch is very fishy. It is unlikely they put a requirement forcing 2 townies to tunnel each other. When I have seen these type of posting restrictions in the past it is much more common for it to be forcing a mafia to target a specific townie. This doesn't prove jackal is mafia but he is certainly the most suspicious person to me right now.
I could be wrong though, I am not the best mafia player 
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On August 14 2011 04:47 Mig wrote:Ok a couple things, kenpachi is clearly not a DT, he could not have checked someone already obviously. Pandain is known for fake claiming dt day 1 every game. So it could easily be a posting restriction and should be ignored. 2nd Jackal being required to push for bill murray's lynch is very fishy. It is unlikely they put a requirement forcing 2 townies to tunnel each other. When I have seen these type of posting restrictions in the past it is much more common for it to be forcing a mafia to target a specific townie. This doesn't prove jackal is mafia but he is certainly the most suspicious person to me right now. I could be wrong though, I am not the best mafia player
The last line is the hint to his personality
My role pm says I need to care for L because he is out to hunt me down.
Poor Kurumi Murray the prey is hunted by JackaL58 the predator
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On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from?
The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role.
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On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
So Jackal, whose entire goal is to get Kurumi killed, says Kurumi is most likely scum because he's Bill Murray...
You want them to stop arguing, but you want to lynch Kurumi (who is probably Town). Why not Jackal? He's the one that has to be pushing this only lynch Kurumi garbage. It's unlikely for a Townie to have a goal that is to get one specific Mafia lynched.
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On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from? The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role.
role claim in pms when the game has no pms
right
and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast
liar
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On August 14 2011 04:47 Mig wrote:Ok a couple things, kenpachi is clearly not a DT, he could not have checked someone already obviously. Pandain is known for fake claiming dt day 1 every game. So it could easily be a posting restriction and should be ignored. 2nd Jackal being required to push for bill murray's lynch is very fishy. It is unlikely they put a requirement forcing 2 townies to tunnel each other. When I have seen these type of posting restrictions in the past it is much more common for it to be forcing a mafia to target a specific townie. This doesn't prove jackal is mafia but he is certainly the most suspicious person to me right now. I could be wrong though, I am not the best mafia player
I agree with you that we need to separate posting restrictions from actual actions. However through all of my experience there have been plenty of players some as almost a good as me who have made it known that they do not tolerate BM.
What this means is that rather than just sucking and basing lynches off of just one action, we actually need to hunt mafia.
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On August 14 2011 04:51 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from? The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role. role claim in pms when the game has no pms right and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast liar
Somebody doesn't quite grasp the personality concept yet.
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On August 14 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:51 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough. Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities: 1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot. 2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia. or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia. Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks. Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1. What's the big VI jump from? The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role. role claim in pms when the game has no pms right and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast liar Somebody doesn't quite grasp the personality concept yet.
somebody is dumb enough to think that town will believe that someone pmed You with his role not even halfway through day 1
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god damn it. I AM THE GODDAMN DETECTIVE (FO SHIZZLE)
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