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On August 14 2011 04:12 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:11 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:05 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT? Explain. Kenpachi and Kurumi are scum together? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Yeah, sounds amazing to lose two members day 1. Are You scared? QUICKLY, ARGUE MILLER I don't feel compelled to argue anything. We have established your willingness to lie. If I get lynched unless I do flip miller Kenpachi will also die a scummy death and town can deal with a confirmed scummy liar such as you are at their leisure. You sir are surely not town and you need to die. You are liar too, because You have no idea who Bill Murray is. Maybe it is me because I breadcrumbed it and said I am Bill Murray? Maybe I am trying to save the guy who is Bill Murray? NO, YOU ARE SURE I AM BILL MURRAY! How?
My Name: B i l l
Your adversaries name: L
You spelled it out dude.
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Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.
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On August 14 2011 04:16 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:12 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:11 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:05 Jackal58 wrote:On August 14 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT? Explain. Kenpachi and Kurumi are scum together? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Yeah, sounds amazing to lose two members day 1. Are You scared? QUICKLY, ARGUE MILLER I don't feel compelled to argue anything. We have established your willingness to lie. If I get lynched unless I do flip miller Kenpachi will also die a scummy death and town can deal with a confirmed scummy liar such as you are at their leisure. You sir are surely not town and you need to die. You are liar too, because You have no idea who Bill Murray is. Maybe it is me because I breadcrumbed it and said I am Bill Murray? Maybe I am trying to save the guy who is Bill Murray? NO, YOU ARE SURE I AM BILL MURRAY! How? My Name: B i l lYour adversaries name: LYou spelled it out dude.
"My real name is Bill"
Hello I am Kurumi, to my schoolfriends known by REAL NAME ANTONI
durr
this is bullshit but I honestly don't know how to argue versus it, because You can NEVER be sure of someone's role/alignment unless You're a DT without any cover roles/bastard modding present.
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On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.
If he is a DT he is dead tonight
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On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight
or roleblocked.
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On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight
but im kenpachi. i dont get shot
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On August 14 2011 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight but im kenpachi. i dont get shot
remember XXXIX where You were vigilante and shot scum roleblocker?
yeah
You were dead night after
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On August 14 2011 04:20 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight but im kenpachi. i dont get shot remember XXXIX where You were vigilante and shot scum roleblocker? yeah You were dead night after
thats what you think
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On August 14 2011 04:20 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:20 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:19 Kenpachi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight but im kenpachi. i dont get shot remember XXXIX where You were vigilante and shot scum roleblocker? yeah You were dead night after thats what you think
well if You can't die then it's amazing
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Foolishness
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Good day to all my fellow townsmen,
So many posts already. And yet so little time to deal with all the suspicions. Let me first start off by saying that I am running for Mayor. Of course I promise that above all lying shall never be a thing that comes out of these lips. Something we can all agree is needed out of our faithful town leader. There is nothing more I can provide, but honesty is needed in a game full of lies and deceit, where the elusive wolves don their sheep costumes, waiting for the perfect moment to make their unsuspecting strike upon the herd.
Is it needed of me to bring forward some evidence on the Kurumi scandal? I do think so. When I first observed the picture posting that consists of the Pokemon nature, I immediately recalled a certain mafia game. Perhaps we all remember it? Hosted by none other than DoctorHelvetica: Pokemon Mafia. Am I really the first to notice this connection? I cannot help but feel that we may be wrong about Kurumi. A different perspective. That is something you can always rely on my to bring forth. Thinking back, I do recall DrH using similar pictures when he hosted his game of the themed nature. This is evidence we must never forget in our arduous quest for hunting down the mafia.
As a town, we must stand strong, stand united, and stand tall. As mayor, I will bring forth a platform built upon truth. Vote for honesty! Vote for me!
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On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day.
Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody.
Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up.
On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up.
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Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray.
However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure.
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I honestly fucking hate being called useless and being lynched in favor of scum
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On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.
LSB where'd you go?
Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit. If he is a DT he is dead tonight
Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough.
Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities:
1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot.
2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia.
or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia.
Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks.
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On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure.
So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead?
Hi there scum logic.
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I am detective not village idiot. Thats mean :l
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On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
PEdit
Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes.
So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort)
I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person.
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On August 14 2011 04:29 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
PEdit
Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes. So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort) I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person.
VisceraEyes is the most awesome person on the planet.
I suspected pre-game Chezinu would be a Cultist role. Just read through his TL Quiz.
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On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic.
Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not.
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sorry for forgetting the most important thing about being town (aka painting Yourself as town so noone mislynches You -_-) I am done with arguing with Jackal, because as mentioned in many guides arguing with scum/tunnelers won't do any good because they won't change their minds. I am intrigued with deconduo and I shall observe his posting.
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If Kenpachi is a DT I'm fucking Mother Theresa. We're not even 24 hours into day one and he has a DT check? Don't think so. He also came up with the wrong alignment for me.
I actually had to PM Incognito to ask him for my alignment. There was none included in my role PM. I at first thought I was some type of weird ass 3rd party.
He answered my PM telling me I am town. Did anybody else have no alignment included in their PM? Maybe we are all town and this is simply a battle of personalities?
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