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On August 14 2011 05:14 tnkted wrote:Alright, deconduo is scum. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:
Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray.
However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure.
So you're saying that BM is probably a townie but we should lynch him anyway? In addition, we should help a possible third party achieve his objective? Ha!
Yet another person who doesn't read my post properly. Here some bolded caps to get the idea into your head:
I NEVER SAID BM IS PROBABLY TOWN.
I said that personalities don't reflect alignment, if they did Jackal would be MORE LIKELY (i.e. NOT SAYING BM IS TOWN OR ANYTHING ELSE) to be mafia than Kurumi.
However personality IS NOT alignment, why are people so fucking bad at basic comprehension.
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On August 14 2011 05:21 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:08 Curu wrote:
Well until something else comes up
##Vote Flamewheel
Let's see what he has to say. You are smarter than this. Did you honestly read that "pm" and believe it was "intercepted" and real? How exactly would it have been intercepted, why would it be signed when the supposed recipient used an alias and even the content is ridiculous.
Yes I read that "PM" and decided that neither Town nor scum have any reason to try to fake a PM like that.
I didn't take into consideration some people's MO this game is just to troll.
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You're awfully defensive Deconduo, why not try to actually strengthen your arguments instead of responding to a weaksauce fos.
Amber is currently living right up to his scum meta (ie: doing nothing)
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that's because he's not in the game.
I'm an idiot, ignore me.
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On August 14 2011 02:56 Pandain wrote:
Just to clarify, you say you will be extremely strict on spammers. However, if a role indicates that you must spam, is there a limit to the amount they will do?
Can we play as ourselves or are we encouraged/supposed to become our personality.
No roles mandate spam.
You are encouraged to become your personality, as that is a large part of this game.
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And here is something interesting. Kurumi is extremely hard to read because of his troll-ish and seemingly random nature, he plays completely insane both as town and as scum, but here are a few posts that actually stuck out to me.
First of all, he actually apologizes about something we all know is completely up to interpretation. This is just a tiny thing I've never seen from Kurumi before, he usually is quite happy to spam in polish.
On August 14 2011 02:25 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 01:57 bumatlarge wrote:For interpretation purposes, I think it actually might not be a bad thing to figure out who everyone is. Roles most certainly do not pertain to alignment, as attributing a personality to an alignment would make this more of a research game, and scum would be better off not acting as their alter-egos. It would definitely be profitable to keep in mind who everyone is posting as, to analyze their posts better, but I don't think it's as easy as everyone is making it out to be. It should not be the focus at this point of the game. Kurumi's posts have been odd. While I'm a huge pokemon fan, reading past the glitter, I'm already seeing errors and assumptions that I wouldn't think any townie would make. + Show Spoiler +On August 14 2011 00:09 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:08 kitaman27 wrote:On August 14 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote:
thanks ver for giving yourself to sandroba he is a genius
btw
this time roles are connected to alignment What makes you think that? Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 14:19 Ver wrote:General Mechanics Each player is given an alignment along with the identity of a famous TL Mafia player, which includes powers that fit the flavor of the player's identity. Personalities can be taken from (but are not limited to) the TL Mafia Quiz. Other than that, it's a straight up mafia game with a few twists, namely: Some personalities have post restricitons. Some personalities have secondary objectives. Some personalities are required to perform some action. Of course, these all fit the flavor of the personalities and are intended to spice up the game. Other than the restrictions in your identity PMs, you are encouraged to do whatever you can to roleplay your identity. Above all, have fun with the game! Warning: I heavily advise you to think twice before roleclaiming.+ Show Spoiler [List of Potential Identities in the game] +(Note: Role descriptions will not be given until death)
~OpZ~
0cz3c
Ace
Annul
AttackZerg
BillMurray
BloodyC0bbler
Bumatlarge
Caller
Chaoser
Chezinu
Chuiu
citi.zen
Coagulation
DoctorHelvetica
Dreamflower
FakeSteve
Fishball
Flamewheel
Foolishness
Incognito
JimboSilvers
Kavdragon
Kenpachi
Korynne
L
LSB
LTT
Meapak_Ziphh
Meeple
MrBabyHands
nemY
Pandain
Protactinium
Pyrrhuloxia
Qatol
Radfield
RebirthOfLeGenD
redtooth
Showtime!
Ver
Youngminii
Zona
i think that points it out I'm not reading that at all. I think it's saying the complete opposite. The other things you say I can understand from whatever personality you may have, but this statement seems convincingly intentional. Care to explain? i might be wrong i am not native english speaker sorry i thought about both ways (aka it is linked or not) but i want to see my truth (that is "roles" are connected to alignment) also kitaman, if i must be crazy how i can stop doing it? ;p also, please, pick pokemon for me so i can keep up with the lets play 
Next up, another thing I've never seen from Kurumi before, seemingly he's actually emotional about the fact that he's being fos'd:
On August 14 2011 04:25 Kurumi wrote:
I honestly fucking hate being called useless and being lynched in favor of scum
And lastly, the post that actually made me go back and re-read his entire history this game, this post jumped out to me when reading the thread, I'm pretty sure this is about the most un-kurumi like post that I've ever seen.
On August 14 2011 04:33 Kurumi wrote:
sorry for forgetting the most important thing about being town (aka painting Yourself as town so noone mislynches You -_-) I am done with arguing with Jackal, because as mentioned in many guides arguing with scum/tunnelers won't do any good because they won't change their minds. I am intrigued with deconduo and I shall observe his posting.
There are several things in there that are really bad, first off he apologizes for not playing pro-town enough (lol, when have you ever given a shit kurumi, remember CCM where I accused him of not playing pro-town, and he just shrugged it off). Then he does a classical scum move to try to shed responsibility, which is to mention guides and external resources. It's a little thing, but most town players tend to assume the things they say as their own for creditability, but mafia likes to quote sources to remove importance.
I think Kurumi is scum
##Vote Kurumi
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So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?
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For comparison, here are Kurumi's thoughts as town in CCM, first when he was called out for being useless:
On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house.
And his answer to my FoS, again as town in CCM
On June 28 2011 22:02 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch.
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On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?
I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.
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On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.
I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.
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On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.
two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about.
the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.
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i think i might have some tunnel googles on so i will post tomorrow with clear mind
is it ok? i am madsad right now
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oh also palmar
u haven't seen me being emotional in xxxix then
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On August 14 2011 05:13 deconduo wrote:
You asked for an example. I gave you an example. You then proceed to complain that I gave you an example. Scum are never happy it seems.
Hall of Fame quote right here lol
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Kurumi spam one more time and its a ban.
But since I feel I am involved in this matter since we are both zergs(so broskis), I will leave it to the Will of the People.
Poll: Ban Kurumi?Yes (9) 53% No (4) 24% Not in game but want to vote (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: Ban Kurumi? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not in game but want to vote
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On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about. the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.
He admitted to being BM. I am compelled to try to get him killed.
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On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about. the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.
Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though.
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On August 14 2011 06:13 Pandain wrote:Kurumi spam one more time and its a ban. But since I feel I am involved in this matter since we are both zergs(so broskis), I will leave it to the Will of the People. Poll: Ban Kurumi?Yes (9) 53% No (4) 24% Not in game but want to vote (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: Ban Kurumi? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Not in game but want to vote
you're fucking day vigi and see 2 people having obvious relation between each other
I'd prefer killing jackal but cmon. kill me.
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What if both jackie and Kurumi are town, they just have to push for the other's lynch? If they succeed perhaps they get special powers?
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On August 14 2011 06:23 tnkted wrote:
What if both jackie and Kurumi are town, they just have to push for the other's lynch? If they succeed perhaps they get special powers?
I DON'T HAVE ANY FLAVOUR ABOUT PUSHING FOR L's LYNCH
the only note I have is that L is hunting me
god damnit
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