Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia V - Page 5

On July 27 2011 07:48 Palmar wrote:
Right, voting for you tomorrow Trotske.

On July 22 2011 10:09 Palmar wrote:
Nice contribution bro, I think you're legit town.

On July 22 2011 10:31 Palmar wrote:
redFF is just saying that because he got lynched day 1 as scum in bc's aa for randomly trying to protect a failure of a town.

Here's a tip for mafia, when townies are about to die, just let them die.

On July 22 2011 10:32 Palmar wrote:


It's a great idea.

Although, killing the third poster after the daypost has a far higher success-rate.

On July 22 2011 18:34 Palmar wrote:
lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea?

Like, I've played 8 mafia games, 5 of them we've lynched scum or 3rd party on day 1. That's far higher than 25%.

Is this just some clever ploy to start a discussion or try to figure out who is going to be the scummy white knight who trashes your plan?

btw, Killing ace day1 is stupid, just lynch him day 2 because the mafia will shoot him if he's not part of their team.

On July 22 2011 18:48 Palmar wrote:


Holy shit redFF, thanks for giving advice on how to play. Here is a tip: LAL doesn't work unless you actually maintain the illusion that you'll follow through with it.

But of course, you want to have an out if at some point someone actually fucks up, so you leave a hole in your policies for bad townies, something you're most certainly going to try and convince us of when one of your scumbuddies gets under pressure




Why don't you just come flat out and say the plan is terrible? We all know it's not good, the problem is identifying which is more scummy, the idiots supporting the plan or the white knights fighting against it.

But I think you're just posting random shit to make yourself look good.

#vote redFF

On July 22 2011 21:26 Palmar wrote:
your mother.

But it's still interesting.

Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy.

On July 22 2011 23:29 Palmar wrote:



You agreed with ace's plan.

From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan.

But I don't think you'd out yourself as mafia like that... early, so I'm inclined to believe it's bad judgement.

redFF however responded in the scummiest way possible to Ace's plan, he was indecisive, tried to appear interested in the plan by asking further questions, when just thinking about the problem would lead you to understand why it's bad.

That's why I'm voting for redFF, I think it's pretty obvious that he was avoiding taking a firm stance on it. Don't forget a random lynch is really the worst scenario for town (aside from the fact mafia can stack), and the entire point of the mafia game, is to increase that chance by analysis and logic.

So yeah, read red's posts, realize that they don't make sense, given his experience as a player.

On July 23 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:
How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years?

Anyway





This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly.

On July 23 2011 00:14 Palmar wrote:
haha live games, sure I have 100 games on epicmafia... herpderpherpderp

Anyway, redFF, tell me your thoughts.

Also, pyo, he needs to be shot in the face, if we default to a policy lynch, Pyo is a great one, as he refuses to commit on day 1 when he's "town". So he just self-votes or something.

On July 23 2011 00:17 Palmar wrote:
interesting, unwarranted self-importance.

Maybe that Jac guy was on to something.

On July 23 2011 01:37 Palmar wrote:
So, in 100 games of playing you have learned how to flaunt your 100 games of playing, and criticizing people who make logical calls?

Nice.

On July 23 2011 01:49 Palmar wrote:
thanks DragonReborn422

##Unvote redFF
##Vote DragonReborn422

On July 23 2011 02:20 Palmar wrote:
yeah pyo, I would expect you to like random lynching, as you think voting for yourself is a good idea on day one.

So, how about it, we lynch you instead?

That list was completely uncalled for, making a list like that where he calls everyone town is just his way of trying to make friends as scum.

Why the fuck would you share your town reads as town? I don't really give a shit who he thinks is town, I want to know who he thinks is scum.

Like, I don't even think this is a questionable lynch, that shitty list just screams that he wants to contribute, make friends, but not commit to anything.

On July 23 2011 02:47 Ace wrote:


##vote Palmar

Guys, listen up. This is such a ridiculous post, part of many that Palmar has made that should be looked at seriously.

Hold your biases for a second, stop and re-read the thread from the start of the game. You'll notice Palmar has been trying to undermine myself and DR22 on this Random Lynch issue. Not only did he put words in our mouths to make up stuff that wasn't said but he's even taking it a step further and now acting like "The Town" has decided Random Lynching is bad, and is thus Scummy if you support it.

Since when did we ever decide that Random Lynching is a Scum move?.

We never did. Even worse, how could he take that stance (deciding that "The Town" has made RL scummy) when he posted this:



How is it that I could have convinced half the thread that a Random Lynch is a good idea, but within the same day you also have stated that the Town has decided otherwise? Like here:



Not only is he speaking for the Town, but now he is throwing out some falsities. The town doesn't have a "more than 50% chance" of hitting Mafia on Day 1 in any game of Mafia unless the game is broken. This is such an utterly stupid and absurd statement I don't know how anyone who has ever played a game of Mafia hasn't called him out on it.

This quoted post is also another in a long line of Palmar misrepresenting DR's position. As DR asked him:



To which Palmar has no response. The same as he can't list who I've convinced to RL.

This is typical newbie Scum play. Like I said, just re-read the thread from scratch. There is no way that someone that is BLINDLY tunneling, not even reading other player's posts and purposely misrepresenting their position is likely Town. That's just so many blatant bad moves that he should be lynched.

So once again, ## vote Palmar.

On July 23 2011 03:15 Palmar wrote:
Ace's argument is basically revolved around this sentence.



This is brilliant, from this sentence, Ace pulls two things that simply aren't true.

point a) he says I claim to speak for town.

This is incorrect, I say this in a general way "Looking at any given mafia game from the perspective of the town players" would've been more accurate, but I assumed that people wouldn't try to twist things that aren't there.

and point b) he says that I'm throwing around false facts, again, just not true.

If people actually bother to read the sentence, you can see I specifically say "and judging by the 8 games that I have played". Any statistician will tell you the sample size is too small to really mean anything, but it's all I have, so I throw it out there. Feel free to provide more statistics.

So, Ace is being guilty of exactly the thing that he has accused me of, namely putting words in people's mouth. Sure, I felt after initially reading the thread that there was more support for the RL plan than there actually was. And I wrote the post on DR without actually checking if he had explicitly suggested we RL, while in truth he had simply said he'd be fine with it.

Now, that this is out of the way, I really want people to take a look at the list that DR posted, it really, really is something that strikes me as very odd.

And yes town, this is Ace leading a bad lynch, I'm not still sure if it's because he is scum and this is the best thing he could come up with, or if it's because he simply didn't read/understand my posts.

On July 23 2011 03:36 Palmar wrote:


How many people are we going to be able to lynch tonight?

Yeah, that's right 1.

Now, you say you have a heavy mafia lean on VisceraEyes, so why don't you, instead of writing a pretty bland and non-commital list, instead try build a case that might get VisceraEyes lynched? You seem perfectly happy with throwing around weak accusations and then just wobbling along in the thread.

That's great, if you're scum, as you don't really have to commit to anything. And as an additional bonus, you make friends! You're basically using the oldest trick in the scumbook, if you tell someone he's town, he's likely to think you're town in turn.

You then cast a vote on Trotske, fair enough, as he just proved that the's actively lurking the thread, but where is the follow-up? Why aren't you pushing him to the gallows? Either you think people are scum, or you don't. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, there's everything wrong with not trying.

Thing is, I have a feeling you want to stay on the good side of as many people as possible, I think that's because you're scum.

On July 23 2011 06:27 Palmar wrote:
I'm most definitely not a lazy town, so if that's your verdict you might as well vote for me. Maybe this is your normal scumplay. Carefully making sure not to vote straight against the person accusing you, but instead discrediting them by dismissing the arguments as lazy/bad. On top of that somehow praising yourself as some vet who should be listened to. Perhaps it's time you put some of those valuable skills to use and you scumhunt, instead of voting for the first lurker that shows his face.


You haven't pushed your ideas at all.

On July 29 2011 23:51 Palmar wrote:
Let me know if anyone is actually going to read that case or wants explanation of any of my actions.

I don't talk with mafia so I'm not replying directly to VisceraEyes.

On July 29 2011 23:51 Palmar wrote:
Let me know if anyone is actually going to read that case or wants explanation of any of my actions.

I don't talk with mafia so I'm not replying directly to VisceraEyes.

On July 30 2011 01:00 Palmar wrote:
I am defending myself, if I get lynched this game is over, barring a super medic save.

But the thing is, you aren't stupid VisceraEyes, so the only possible reason you'd do what you're doing is that you're mafia. You don't actually believe that using jokes in an analysis is valid, and you don't actually believe that changing my mind is scummy.

You're just trying to make it look that way.

I'd much rather answer questions from people I think are actually town, as I'm not trying to convince YOU that you're scum, I'm trying to convince TOWN that you're scum.