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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 18 2011 18:18 GMT
#33
/in ^_^
my role is gonna be sick!!!!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 18 2011 18:47 GMT
#36
cuz he knows hes gonna get owned again.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#40
Thankyou GM. I know a lot of people would just in and barely play and screw over their team. <3 and looking forward to your return!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 19 2011 17:54 GMT
#46
i had this incredible role created and then saw there were no post restrictions :'(
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#63
Jackal you can tunnel me anytime you like. If ya know what i mean...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 21 2011 05:07 GMT
#66
why you out? I'd like to play with you again and get even curu!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 22 2011 06:54 GMT
#73
Don't be so foolish, /in!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 22 2011 16:12 GMT
#76
i got you palmar
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 22 2011 21:35 GMT
#79
^_^__^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#89
I actually have a role setup, but if i get palmar i will make the Cop-Hunter.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 23 2011 21:58 GMT
#101
sexy
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 23 2011 23:48 GMT
#121
give me a good role i don't wanna be bored.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#142
no your penalty goes to a different person than your role.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 24 2011 23:23 GMT
#145
In additon to picking a role for the person given you can send in a penalty as well. You will not know who you are picking the penalty for. Penalties are hidden and inactive initially and will activiate under special circumstances through out the game. For example, if you reveal who you picked your role for or details about said role your penalty will activate. There are other ways to activate it as well.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#151
On July 25 2011 08:27 syllogism wrote:
I understood we don't decide how the penalties activate, just the penalty itself

yeah i think thats correct
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:10 GMT
#200
On July 25 2011 10:06 sandroba wrote:
Btw, I've got a pm from the host saying I've found an old stick in my attic, and I can give it to someone. It's not part of my role. Did anyone got anything similar?

Give it to the dog. I think it is unwise to follow a plan and willfully earn our penalties. Some could really hinder successful town play.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:25 GMT
#214
On July 25 2011 10:07 OriginalName wrote:
SAND GIVE IT TO ME NOW

explain
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:31 GMT
#228
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

we are not mass claiming, and yes many things activate ur penalty, i assume role-claiming is one of them.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:33 GMT
#231
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

Why would anyone, including scum, lie?

Also, smooth one OriginalName..


Screw you I want powers.

I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:38 GMT
#235
On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

Why would anyone, including scum, lie?

Also, smooth one OriginalName..


Screw you I want powers.

I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim.


Im Townie Voldemort.

Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension.

I find Items I get powers.

Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers.

To have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that.

Are items a 1 use deal and can others use said items?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#242
Can the Elder Wand be used at any time or only at night?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:44 GMT
#248
On July 25 2011 10:42 Curu wrote:
Anyways I'm going out for a bit. I don't understand why the initial reaction to my plan was UR SCUM so if anyone cares to point out why knowing everyone's roles and being able to see which powers were used in an Anti Town manner and who has those powers is super harmful to Town I'd like to enlightened.

Don't give that blue sniping BS, every Townie is a blue this game and Mafia already know what several of the powers are. Pure simple DT-type roles are also very unlikely considering deconduo encouraged interesting and whacky ones.

Because scum can see which roles threaten them and block/shoot accordingly...Plus mafia could call out people for fake-claiming and possibly fake claim themselves. Analysis wins games not roles!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:52 GMT
#261
Oh btw if you picked either of these guys roles and they are fake-claiming speak up.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:59 GMT
#274
On July 25 2011 10:56 Nisani201 wrote:
There is probably a Snape, and in that case we should wait the whole Harry Potter/Voldemort thing out until Snape claims.

Please tell me how you figure this...
there is probably also a Gellert Grindelwald, or perhaps a Rowena Ravenclaw, or maybe a Dobby! Unless you have some other reason to think that there is a snape.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 02:13 GMT
#292
YOU GAVE THE ELDER WAND TO VOLDEMORT! WTF
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 02:21 GMT
#306
On July 25 2011 11:19 sandroba wrote:
Well, jackal is town, based on his aligment claim. Give it to him pls.

I think both harry or he who must not be named could be town or scum.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 02:41 GMT
#323
could be bus drivers and roleblockers... so no
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 02:55 GMT
#331
imo give it to me.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 02:59 GMT
#337
Give it to sandroba, from his reaction to having the stick and not sneakily giving it to his mafia team member and not telling the thread, I have him as town or mafia but not with jackal or ON. Give it back to sandroba, the less kp the better.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 03:01 GMT
#341
no lol give it to sandroba for reasons i stated previously.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 03:02 GMT
#343
GIVE
IT
TO
SANDROBA

On July 25 2011 11:59 redFF wrote:
Give it to sandroba, from his reaction to having the stick and not sneakily giving it to his mafia team member and not telling the thread, I have him as town or mafia but not with jackal or ON. Give it back to sandroba, the less kp the better.

redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 03:23 GMT
#367
I agree with Harry potter likely being scum, but also that I don't agree with that shot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That was kind of pointless imo, and in no way shape or form does it make you town.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 03:29 GMT
#371
to be fair i did shoot the gf.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 04:14 GMT
#378
On July 25 2011 13:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
RedFF, how much do you read/watch Harry Potter?

Also, I'm wondering YM, because if you can use it today, it might be best to fire it off, and then WIFOM about your kill/protection.

That's assuming you're town of course.

erm i've read the books and seen all the movies except the new one, so average i guess?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 04:33 GMT
#381
On July 25 2011 13:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 13:14 redFF wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
RedFF, how much do you read/watch Harry Potter?

Also, I'm wondering YM, because if you can use it today, it might be best to fire it off, and then WIFOM about your kill/protection.

That's assuming you're town of course.

erm i've read the books and seen all the movies except the new one, so average i guess?


So...
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:41 redFF wrote:
Can the Elder Wand be used at any time or only at night?

How did you know the "stick", or "wand" was properly called the Elder Wand? (That's the first mention of it by that name in the thread) This leads me to believe you're in contact with Jackal or one of the role creators of ON/Jackal

erm because he said that the 3 objects were all horcruxes and the elder wand is the only stick horcrux i know of?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#388
On July 25 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote:
redFF, the....redFF
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On July 25 2011 11:55 redFF wrote:
imo give it to me.


This post makes me really uneasy. He asks for a KP with no explanation. Maybe he has a role that he can use it, or maybe he just wanted to hold on to it so it couldn't be used improperly.

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On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

Why would anyone, including scum, lie?

Also, smooth one OriginalName..


Screw you I want powers.

I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim.


This one as well. He accuses a now-confirmed townie, and tries to get him to claim. Couple this with his asking for the wand, it makes me think he also might have an HP themed role and would be capable of using it. What remains to be seen is whether this role is town aligned or not.

I don't have an hp themed role. First post was a joke, as everyone was asking for the wand. I was going to say AND MY AXE, but i went for imo give me the wand.

I didn't accuse him, i just noted discussion was being derailed by all this hp nonsense, so i wanted him to be as upfront as possible now we knew part of his role, i see that as a good townie post.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 05:43 GMT
#408
On July 25 2011 14:36 youngminii wrote:
It's not the randomisation thing, it's the "VOLDEMORT HAS DISGUISED HIMSELF AS TOWN"

I wrote that in caps because half the people posting seem to have completely missed that.

It could just be like

You are harry potter and you know he who must not be named is evil and a douche and scary and a snake man but somehow he has become part of town, MUST BE A DISGUISE!!!

So i wouldn't necessarily say that Jackal lied while doing that. That said, it's the best evidence we have so far and I would be fine with a Jackal lynch. I think the stuff that someone brought up about Drazerk was the most damning evidence though. Ima wait for Jackal to post tommorow before i cast my vote.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 05:47 GMT
#410
On July 25 2011 14:41 Curu wrote:
@Wiggles

It has nothing to do with randomization unless two people decided to make their roles together. dec stated he doesn't want any role organization plans or w/e so I think it's most certainly dec's creation. Then again I don't understand how they are exactly identical roles and the decision to place Hallows around, since Jackal claimed he has a Mason-type role and that was what ON's was too. The possibilities I see are:

1) Two people decided they wanted to put Harry/Voldy in the game and collaborated together to do so (against dec's urging not to)
2) Dec created two roles for people by himself (???)
3) Dec took two roles that were Mason roles and decided to add onto them himself

I highly, highly doubt someone just decided to put it into their role to kill Harry Potter as he can't even know Harry Potter would be in the game. I'm almost certain this is dec's doing, and if so then what I am saying makes sense.

I feel like maybe someone failed to submit a role on time or something? eiii asked in irc if anyone wanted to create an extra role for the game iirc, so maybe decon just saw someone made voldemort and added in hp?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 18:56 GMT
#632
On July 26 2011 00:39 DropBear wrote:
Ok I may as well cop the penalty. Mafia now knows who shot youngminii and all his abilities so I have to come out and save him now. I made the Tim Roth role.

Supersoft is Tim Roth. He only gets one kill. His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him. I didn't get that PM so supersoft is now 100% confirmed to be town.

His other ability is an alignment check, which activates if you get into a 3 each quote convo with him i.e. you post, he quotes, you quote the quote until there is 3 each.

I would suggest forcing people to quote him. Not everyone at once though as it would shit up the thread something shocking.

What was your penalty? Good job Supersoft,

I didn't get a pm telling me tackster's alignment, was that a mistake?

I'm still weary of Jackal. Behaviourally i'm not noticing anything that scummy though. I'm tired of Kurumi getting away from doing jack-shit every game and doing no analysis and just trolling so i'm voting him until something better comes up.

kita-iirc he played this way early on in the first ptp and was town and a lot of people(mainly mafia) jumped on him for it to get an easy lynch, I suggest someone starts quoting supersoft though. i will do it if necesssary.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 19:50 GMT
#648
If Tim Roth was sk, who would his alignment/role be pm'd to? All non sks?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:07 GMT
#655
Can supersoft only aligment check the person he was quoting with?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:23 GMT
#670
If we do check i wouldn't want it to be on kita. Sandroba or BC are both good checks imo, in the end it will come down to supersofts choice.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#677
I (T)Really don't understand why you guys are arguing against a (P)free alignment (Z)Check.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:33 GMT
#679
so it (Z)just finds in your post if you mention a broodwar player and automatically tlpdizes him, that's (P)COol, but a fairly easy post restriction to follow, I didn't even mean to mention those players lol.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:34 GMT
#681
I think I'(T)M going to (T)Start tlpd'izing all of my posts this iS so (P)COol lol.






(P)Bisu
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#692
On (Z)July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)July 26 2011 05:31 redFF wrote:
I (T)Really don't understand why you guys are arguing against a free alignment (Z)Check.

Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I (T)Really appreciate it

well now im (T)Really confused...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 21:03 GMT
#715
On (Z)July 26 2011 05:59 sandroba wrote:
(T)WhO iS to say we have to trust his (Z)Check BC??? We can still lynch kita regardless. That doesn't mean shit. But if he says kita iS red we (T)Kill kita on the spot. If kita flips (P)Green we (T)Kill SS. SS being confirmed has nothing to do with this.

(T)What about kita iS so scummy, yes he asked a lot of questions but it was a confusing time. I'd like to see him post a bit more before you (T)Start acting like the whole town thinks he iS scum and wants him lynched.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:24 GMT
#835
Supersoft killed a mafia day 1. This is the same terrible reasoning that got palmar lynched. Let's think for a second.

Tackster is copycat and gets supersoft's role. Tackster shoots YM, if they were both scum supersoft could have just claimed the shot right? Why would Supersoft kill his scumbuddy? SS is not scum as far as im concerned.

He's asked bc to quote him so he can alignment check and BC has refused, arguing SS is untrustworthy, when SS killed a mafia day 1. SS telling us BC is scum would get BC lynched but if BC is town we would just kill SS, so that wouldn't happen. The only reason I can think BC is refusing the alignment check is because he is afraid of what he will come up as...

##Vote BC
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:25 GMT
#836
No SS check BC you asked him to quote you and he ignored it. Please check BC. BC accept the check please. BC is far more dangerous than kita and its much better to know his alignment then kita's day 1.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#837
Kita is allowing himself to be checked, BC ignored SS's request to check him. SS dont check kita.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:41 GMT
#848
So SS, If i have your role correctly, you can check one person a day, and can choose from any of the people that went on a 3 quote ride with you?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:44 GMT
#851
On July 26 2011 10:43 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:41 redFF wrote:
So SS, If i have your role correctly, you can check one person a day, and can choose from any of the people that went on a 3 quote ride with you?


yoep, volunteer to be another potential target of my check? go ahead and quote me 2 times

OH WHY HELLO THERE
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 01:45 GMT
#854
i (P)Actually don't think everyone should quote you, town can (T)control your (Z)Check easier if you do this with less people. BC should come in and do it though.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 02:26 GMT
#867
On July 26 2011 11:06 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:44 redFF wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:43 supersoft wrote:
On July 26 2011 10:41 redFF wrote:
So SS, If i have your role correctly, you can check one person a day, and can choose from any of the people that went on a 3 quote ride with you?


yoep, volunteer to be another potential target of my check? go ahead and quote me 2 times

OH WHY HELLO THERE


please be so kind and quote this one more time ;-)

or wait... lol, i can't believe it... Am I lucky and found a non-townie by accident? :D

lol im just worried if anyone quotes you we won't be able to control your check but w/e.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 03:33 GMT
#889
BC start quoting with SS then so he can inspect you.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 04:28 GMT
#897
On July 26 2011 06:14 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 26 2011 05:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 26 2011 04:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
[quote]

use a dt check on SS first. Don't trust someone whos suspect to give real feedback. Make him earn his damn check. You do not reward roleclaimers ffs.


How contradictory. You think that having SS use his rolecheck is rewarding him (not town, just him) for roleclaiming, but then say we should wait for another DT to check supersoft to confirm him as town or not. Here's how that fails:

-Framers
-Fake DT claim to take out Day DT
-Continual Role block after today on SS
-Having to have an actual DT claim to confirm him

So, you don't want to reward roleclaimers, but then want another DT to claim to confirm a known DT, who's alignment is unknown? That makes no sense at all.

The best thing to do, is to use his check, and have him announce his result to town. The catch is we don't act just based on his check. We can check a lynch candidate if we want, but that gets dangerous if he's scum, though another 1-1 trade wouldn't be that bad. The other thing we do is check someone suspicious, who isn't necessarily getting lynched today and having him announce his check, and just leave it until we can confirm him. Then if he gets popped, we know all his checks and results, and if we can act on them, and if he gets confirmed another way, well we know all his results too.

I'd actually suggest checking you or DB, and then leaving it for now.

As well, why would we check people asking to be checked, and why would anyone be dumb enough to ask for a DT check on them without already being suspicious anyways? If they're asking to be checked, they're town or a covered role. Town wouldn't want to waste a DT check on themselves, as compared to suspicious people. Use the tool to hunt mafia, not to confirm town. An innocent check doesn't prove innocence, but the only way we're getting a red check back at this point is millers or a day-framer. Day 1 has the least chance of anything interfering with the check, and is the best time to use it. I'd rather have 1 check in, than have none and SS gets shot tonight.


Check the bolded part. In almost every case of someone asking or begging for a dt check they are town or covered role. Most people do this to confirm themselves and thus starting a blue circle that can rofl stomp mafia. It is very common practice for people to want to be cleared as to move through a game with 0 harassment from anyone. No mafia would willingly throw himself up for a dt check as it would screw him in the end. You say no townie would want it used on them, but that would again, leave you a pool of 0 people to check. you are then down to the idea of "we want you checked you let yourself get checked or lynched" which is a horrible way to play.

Seriously, you all are talking about role use being the huge factor in catching people. I now say, everyone go back read pick your power 3 and realize playing lets analyze roles, or someones role means they are legit, etc.... and realize roles do not say shit about the players alignment. Who cares if SS's check is an alignment check if you don't know his alignment. Have a watcher/tracker check him. If he visits anyone at night at this point in time he is mafia. have a dt check him. Dt's could breadcrumb results, or the like. Seriously, before a plan is proposed you sort it out, you make it ideal, you account for multiple situations. So far the only situation proposed by you lot is SS is likely town for shooting a red. Likely town does not mean town.


What? So, instead of using a check, and just leaving it, until we have a second DT out themselves or breadcrumb and die, you're saying never use the check? Did I understand that correctly? Please tell me how what you're trying to say is optimal play. How is not having a check better than having one?

The only situation proposed by you, is that we don't use the check at all. That's asking a claimed and outed DT to not check people or reveal his checks, until another DT checks him. In what world does that make sense?

Ask yourself how you would play this out in a normal game. If a DT claimed, would you ask him to not check anyone until another DT checked him and claimed it? That sounds really dumb to me.


In a normal game, on day 1, if someone claimed dt and said x was red, I would kill the dt first. Every time.

In a setup where mafia, third parties, or town can be a dt, I will never trust the claimant ever on day 1. Nor should anyone else.


Ok, so where's the part where we're trusting him by having him use a check on an agreed upon target? That's what I'm wondering about. You're saying that by letting him check, we're implicitly trusting him to be town, but that is not the case. We can let him sit in unconfirmed limbo for now, but why not use his check? It doesn't hurt us to use his check, the same way that killing the DT actually tells us whether the check is true or not.


By giving him a check we give legitmacy over time to his supposed alignment. Say he is mafia, he checks kita, kita flips town, he gives us a town. That makes him look better as he complied to the check.

Say both kita and SS are red, he says kita is town it still gives both a look of legitmacy. One for complying for the check. Its subtle and its insidious. Someone who is not confirmed you do not let slowly insinuate they are. Had you guys outlined you planned on trusting his check with a grain of salt I would be less worried than i am now.


Of course we'd take it with a grain of salt, I'm taking everything in this game with a grain of salt, because if I trusted everything I read, I'd be pretty silly. That's also why I'm saying we can also check people who aren't major lynch targets yet, and then just ignore the results until someone else confirms SS, he gets shot by mafia, or we even flip him ourselves with a vig.



Now I am seeing the first person with some sense -_-. Wiggles, go back and originally read the use of his role and you will see NO ONE advocated what you did just now. You will see it otherwise and should realize my discontent. What you just proposed is more cautious than everything else in relation to using his role to this point.



hey bc, wanna check?

Bc ignored this post.

On July 26 2011 06:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:38 Curu wrote:
You don't know if he suffered his penalty or not Wiggles. It might just be he's roleblocked for tonight, who knows.

BC, would you submit to having supersoft check you?



Nope. As much as being confirmed town benefits town as a whole, it gets me shot by third party / mafia or some asshole townie who thinks they are being a hero.

Instead I will risk getting shot anyway, but the likelyhood of a third party shot or red goes down whereas the option of a townie shooting me is higher. Any med with half a brain will realize I have been trying to make people think and not be stupid and might protect me.

Then posts this.

K so if he inspects you you will be confirmed town, but increases the chance to be shot at by scum/blacks. Then you say that you would like medic protection, surely if you are confirmed town you are more likely to get medic protection? Quote supersoft so you can be alignment checked. If you keep ignoring this issue then i will get you lynched.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 17:01 GMT
#966
You have nothing to hide bc, if you are town and supersoft lies to town about the dt check, he will die soon after. If you are scum then i can see why you are afraid of the dt check

He could be SK, but I feel like an SK would have saved his shot. Again the SK has no reason to lie about the alignment check and doing it would only ge him killed.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#1077
Thankyou BC, Jackal is the lynch I think ebcause he refused to be checked and is the opposite and rival to an already flipped town role. I don't think BC has been productive and his arguing has dominated the thread in such a way that has prevented decent discussion, jackal s the lynch. check bC

##VOte jckal
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:17 GMT
#1083
On July 27 2011 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 05:12 redFF wrote:
Thankyou BC, Jackal is the lynch I think ebcause he refused to be checked and is the opposite and rival to an already flipped town role. I don't think BC has been productive and his arguing has dominated the thread in such a way that has prevented decent discussion, jackal s the lynch. check bC

##VOte jckal


welcome back from lurker limbo.

... I went out
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:21 GMT
#1086
who did you inspect? BC?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:26 GMT
#1097
##unvote
##vote BC

lol proved my point about bc ignoring the check.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:28 GMT
#1101
On July 27 2011 05:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On July 27 2011 05:25 Lanaia wrote:
Are we sure he's not miller?

I was fairly sure he was town, too. :/

changing vote.


I'm either miller, or he is red. Take your pick. Based on how hesitant he was about using his check so on and so forth. Chances are he is red or third party.


k
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#1107
claim please BC then.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#1111
On July 27 2011 05:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 05:26 redFF wrote:
##unvote
##vote BC

lol proved my point about bc ignoring the check.


lawl. Dont worry, my flip will amuse you. YOu will instantly see why I me being confirmed town was a horrible idea.


claim then
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#1113
On July 27 2011 05:30 sandroba wrote:
Man if BC flips miller I'm going to be pissed. Why did you not check kita?

because bc was the better check...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:36 GMT
#1125
On July 27 2011 05:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What happened to checking a random and ignoring the checks for now? If BC flips green, I'm going to be pissed. The only way this makes sense in my mind, is if BC is miller, SS is lying scum, or BC is some kind of mass vengeance role.

or bc is mafia...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:44 GMT
#1139
why am i a good night shot for thinkng you are scum?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:52 GMT
#1154
who did you pick?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 20:54 GMT
#1161
On July 27 2011 05:53 sandroba wrote:
can we switch to jackal?

no there's a red alignment check on him.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#1192
wow lol. A bunch of people are going to be lke OMFG HE WAS OBV TOWN U GUYZ ARE DUMB. But he came back as mafia to a confirmed non-scum alignment check, he was the lynch. It sucks but its better we lynched a miller with a shitty role now then having to deal with a miller in the later game.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 21:07 GMT
#1194
Voting on a mislynch is not suspicious.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 26 2011 21:08 GMT
#1197
On July 27 2011 06:07 redFF wrote:
Voting on a mislynch is not suspicious.

in and of itself, if you have other evidence to back it up then its useful. You can't just say omfg voted on mislynch hes scum :O:O:O
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 27 2011 17:04 GMT
#1263
I started tlpdizing my posts because it was fun and i never new you could just press the tlpd button and it would find player names in your post! I stopped now obviously, the nolvelty has worn off.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 27 2011 21:39 GMT
#1342
why can't i be a mafia hit? Not 1337 enough? Regardless gg all, my role would have been difficult to play but i was going to do something very clever until i died.

GL town!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#2684
... they get blocked lol?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:25 GMT
#2957
Well played Lanaia -_-. I made bums role in case it wasnt obvious lol.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 09 2011 16:41 GMT
#2964
On August 08 2011 10:14 heist wrote:
Great job town. Was a fantastic and fun game to play. RedFF I hope you liked the role, Deconduo only tweaked some of its mechanics. Too bad you never got to actually use it.

It was going to be difficult to actually convince scissors to kill paper without paper killing me so I was gonna claim creating the role once scissors claimed and direct scissors through that.
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