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Mr. Wiggles
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June 27 2011 19:18 GMT
#13
/in

Everyone should read up on MAD too :p
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Mr. Wiggles
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June 29 2011 22:45 GMT
#51
##Fire Orbital Rail-Gun: The Countries of GMarshalia and iGrokaga
##Enable Electronic Interference Protocols
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Mr. Wiggles
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June 30 2011 03:59 GMT
#59
On June 30 2011 12:09 Navillus wrote:
/in (I died in RL mafia )


Hmmmm, so if you died in Real Life Mafia how are you posting here?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 02 2011 02:05 GMT
#77
Sign up, Rawr!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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July 02 2011 19:50 GMT
#89
Stop making love to the signups...

I've been playing a ton of Metal Gear Solid recently, I need an outlet for desire to use weapons of mass destruction -_-
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July 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#123
Required Reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 05 2011 04:08 GMT
#140
Got my role, weapons are armed, let's get rocking :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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July 05 2011 06:19 GMT
#162
I don't think GM's plan is entirely realistic, as it is hard to control people, and also retaliatory strikes are going to cause a lot of unwarranted bloodshed. Beyond that, I don't think a 50% consensus is actually a very strong thing to kill off of. Rather, kills should be based off of strong reasoning and analysis, and if it can be proved there's sufficient reason to nuke, we nuke. One thing that RTM taught me, is that town is eager to bandwagon on any kind of analysis, so long as it's formatted nicely, and makes a bit of sense. Look at the case brought up against sinani201 for example, which just pointed out bad play, but not how he was scum. I'm sure you could get a majority vote for firing on that, but for me, it's not strong enough to actually kill on, even if half of town agrees to it. Does that make sense? Majority rule isn't always right.

Random nuking = bad
Nuking with discussion = good
Nuking off strong reasoning and discussion of that = better

Also, I just read San's plan:

It's alright, except for a couple things.

-A mislynch on town will lead to probable retaliation on his accusers. The townie has KP, and he will try to fire it at who he thinks is scum before he dies.
-A lynch on scum that way will cause him to fire off all nukes into town.
-Scum can lie about the number of nukes he can be hit by, in order to waste town KP and increase the radiation level more, stopping further strikes from town and mafia for fear of losing. This works because nukes are not instantaneous.

I think this actually will end up with a lot of nukes fired, and a lot of dead townies, due to the nature of it, and as soon as nukes start to be fired, it makes it easier to fire more.

We should almost propose an armistice except for rare circumstances, maybe. =/
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 05 2011 19:48 GMT
#364
Holy crap, you guys talk a lot in my sleep. -_-

I will agree to the GM plan, but I want to make one change to it.

I want to introduce a grace period before any nukes are launched, for final deliberations, and also to give people a chance if they wish to change their minds. Earlier, when I said majorities aren't always great, what I meant is that if we launch a nuke as soon as majority is reached, it makes it easy for bandwagons to kill townies. If we add in a grace period, we have a better chance of pointing out flaws in any analysis, and also a better chance for people who voted early to change their vote if they want to due to changes in opinion or situation. As well, this stops scum or idiots from dropping the hammer and then having some trigger happy guy launch a nuke right away.

What do you think?
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 05 2011 20:13 GMT
#367
Also, for the campaigns.

Gunnerside seems like a decent campaign at first, except for two things:

First, as has already been mentioned, people shouldn't be firing nukes anyways, so this only really helps us towards the endgame, though if people aren't firing nukes, then axis probably will have a stockpile anyways.

Second, the operation takes two days to execute, so it ties up our actions on Day 2, and won't execute until Day 3. That seems like a lot of wasted time for something that doesn't seem like it will have the greatest effects.

That said, I'm liking Watchtower and Dunkirk, though I'm not sure which. Possibly Dunkirk, as we're leaning towards limiting nuke use and taking actions against rogue actions anyways.
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 05 2011 20:46 GMT
#371
Bleh, thanks for shortening Day 1, Palmar...

Since days are so weird, does everyday have a lynch, or are no lynches possible and are people punished at all for not voting if they aren't around?
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 05 2011 21:22 GMT
#379
If the nuclear phase works how I think it does, the best time to launch nukes will be in the last hour before the regular 24 hours are over. This will give us another 12 hours to discuss stuff, and also works well with the grace period idea I came up with, as we'll always have abut a full day to achieve and maintain a majority on nuke targets.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#400
Bleh, way to ninja me, syllogism, I was just about to post that I want to pressure sinani206 as a lurker. Only posts with content so far:

On July 06 2011 03:58 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote:
I will say though that not all missiles are created equal.


So scum missiles do more damage?
##Operation Gunnerside


Which seems nonsensical and:

On July 06 2011 04:05 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:00 syllogism wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:58 sinani206 wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote:
I will say though that not all missiles are created equal.


So scum missiles do more damage?
##Operation Gunnerside

What's with people making wild assumptions just to avoid voting for objectively the most pro-town campaign


Gunnerside also prevents conspirator from winning and I doubt that there are more than 3 Boreritish commanders.


Which isn't really true, as if he was worried about conspirator, Watchtower is a much better operation, and also, as we do not know the maximum number of scum nukes, Gunnerside might not do much when it comes to stopping us from reaching the radiation cap.

##Operation Dunkirk
##Vote: Sinani206


I'll help you pressure, as I was just about to mention him too :p
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 06 2011 03:41 GMT
#442
@Sandroba:

I think that a lot of your argument is based on meta-game, which is never strong as a central argument, and should only be used to support. However, some of the things you pointed out about how Palmar has been playing in this game, and his behavioural changes, specifically regarding his stance on nuke usage over time as pressure on him increased, are actually decent. That said, I think Palmar is focusing a lot on Nukes, and trying to promote their active use, which leads me to believe he is more likely to be conspirator than mafia.

Add to that, that he broke the mostly agreed upon plan (and his own plan as well), and also, from the OP:

If the target has multiple night lives or is hit by a dud missile, the exact same sort of response will be acknowledged, so be careful.


I'm not sure exactly, but I think this means that dud missiles will actually increase the radiation level, or at least make it appear as though the radiation level will increase. Either way, this helps the conspirator in his goal.

That said, I'm going to keep my vote on Sinani for now, as his reaction to pressure and how he interacted with Curu has me a bit more suspicious. I want to keep watching him, because he's seeming more scummy to me now, and I want to keep the pressure on with my vote.
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 06 2011 06:07 GMT
#458
Alright, well I'm going to bed now, and I don't know if I'll be around for the night post, depending when it is. I'm going to vote for Palmar now, because he looks scummy to me for the reasons I gave before, and because I feel more comfortable lynching him with just the information I have now. I think there's a high probability he's actually the conspirator.

As well, my continued vote on Sinani was mostly to keep pressure on him, but since others are voting him as well now, there'll still be pressure on him while I sleep from the other votes, so I'll be able to read his continued reactions in the morning.

Good night.

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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 18:41 GMT
#789
Soooo... I would vote GM, but he's getting nuked. Except for the part, where I think he actually has a way to survive the nuke besides counter-missiles and that's why he doesn't care if he gets hit and wants to save Mataza instead. If he lives, I'm going to push for his lynch tomorrow.

I also don't get why people are pushing so hard for YM, as he looks like town to me. The only reason would be to policy lynch him, but really, that might as well be thrown out the window now, unless we have a way to triple lynch him, mataza, and sandroba, haha (Who are all probably town anyways, at least form my own reads).

Going to keep my vote on Palmar while I figure shit out.

(I also hate how fast the thread moves while I sleep, compared to the snail's pace while I'm awake =/)
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:19 GMT
#876
CAN WE PLEASE PUT DOWN THE NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS, BY CALLER, I MEAN SERIOUSLY~~!!!!11!!~1~1!!~@11!!`2#!$@!%F DHVJSRJSTHDX
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:21 GMT
#882
On July 07 2011 04:19 Palmar wrote:
Shut up Wiggles, you're ruining the fun.


You're probably the goddamn conspirator, bet you're just loving this.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#915
On July 07 2011 04:29 GMarshal wrote:
I think I found what you might call low hanging fruit.

Heres a cypher who tells you who I'm thinking of nuking.

+ Show Spoiler +
VQKWPBVUIVWPGMGFRIPPWODLCYSYINZTAUOPLIJWZLMGRHMFOYTTWTNLBEMPIHWPUCESMSYPUSPWTULMUYDZXTFTCQHJEFALGMQTXIJSCHVCNAAGTZTFMTXLHTHPOQXHEFKMIRKFTCSGDIETAXVSIADLFTQCNQSRYYVFWNLRSPOEHILARLVZLECS


Kudos to anyone who cracks it ^_^


Is it a vigenere cipher?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:35 GMT
#922
On July 07 2011 04:34 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 07 2011 04:29 GMarshal wrote:
I think I found what you might call low hanging fruit.

Heres a cypher who tells you who I'm thinking of nuking.

+ Show Spoiler +
VQKWPBVUIVWPGMGFRIPPWODLCYSYINZTAUOPLIJWZLMGRHMFOYTTWTNLBEMPIHWPUCESMSYPUSPWTULMUYDZXTFTCQHJEFALGMQTXIJSCHVCNAAGTZTFMTXLHTHPOQXHEFKMIRKFTCSGDIETAXVSIADLFTQCNQSRYYVFWNLRSPOEHILARLVZLECS


Kudos to anyone who cracks it ^_^


Is it a vigenere cipher?

I see you remember Orgah mafia, much like I do.

It might be


Well, I tried, Apple, Peach, Pear, LowHangingFruit, and I can't figure out the key, haha.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:36 GMT
#923
Got the first part.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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July 06 2011 19:39 GMT
#927
Vigenere Cipher- KEY: NUCLEARHOLOCAUST

I WILL BE NUKING SOMEONE SOMEONE WITH A NAME HIS PLAYER NUMBER IS TWENTY NINE WHICH IS HIGH BUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST SO IT IS LOW HANGING FRUIT GET IT NOW FOR LIBERTY FREEDOM AND THE AMERICAN WAY LET US NUKE EACHOTHER TO HELL

gtrsrs
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:39 GMT
#929
And here I was thinking there was going to be a clue within the clue...
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:42 GMT
#936
On July 07 2011 04:41 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
And here I was thinking there was going to be a clue within the clue...

Sorry

I'll make the next one harder. After I find a new target.


<3
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#938
[image loading]
PRETTY IRONIC, HEY?


Well, I'm going for a check-up now, I'll be back in a couple of hours, if the waiting times aren't too long. Please try not to explode too much while I'm gone, pretty please?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#961
On July 07 2011 04:53 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:52 Palmar wrote:
On July 07 2011 04:50 GMarshal wrote:
On July 07 2011 04:48 Palmar wrote:
Whatever, don't let me ruin your fun.

Someone just nuke me and then you can nuke as much as you fucking want to as I'm the conspirator.

Nope, when we hit the radiation limit we *still* die.


and then... no one wins? or what?


Conspirator wins..


Conspirator can't win if he's hanging from a tree by a rope :p
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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:55 GMT
#967
On July 07 2011 04:53 sandroba wrote:
YM, k so you will survive the nuke since you got an extra life. We can still maybe salvage this game. IF SOMEONE HAS ANTI NUKES PLS USE THEM ON THE ONE HEADING TOWARDS SINANI.
LYNCH PALMAR. He claimed conspirator when he's about to die. Town would NEVER claim that. He's either trully the conspirator (unlikely) or Scum (likely).


The extra lives don't go into effect until the next day post. Use a counter nuke on YM, then Sinani.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 19:58 GMT
#971
On July 07 2011 04:55 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:53 sandroba wrote:
YM, k so you will survive the nuke since you got an extra life. We can still maybe salvage this game. IF SOMEONE HAS ANTI NUKES PLS USE THEM ON THE ONE HEADING TOWARDS SINANI.
LYNCH PALMAR. He claimed conspirator when he's about to die. Town would NEVER claim that. He's either trully the conspirator (unlikely) or Scum (likely).

Hate to remind you, he claimed Assassin in PTP, fake claiming weird shit isn't anything unexpected from him.

oh and wiggles, how do you feel about the possibility of me shooting nuclear weapons at you?


I'd rather you don't, as it would be a waste.
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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 23:24 GMT
#1178
On July 07 2011 08:17 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 08:15 Drazerk wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote:
Also, lets say you theoretically had a way to get someone's alignment published in the next day post, who would you choose?

This is *purely* a theoretical exercise.


Myself confirmed townies are always good if there is medic support around

Now lets say this theoretical power had the *tiny* setback of destroying one of that person's nukes, and raising radiation levels by 1. Would you still use it that way? Lets also say you can't aim it at yourself.


Does this ability perchance explode one of those person's nukes, raising the radiation level by one, and killing the person, thus revealing their alignment?

Also, I switched to it as soon as the nukes started going off like this, but please:

VOTE FOR OPERATION WATCHTOWER. FOR PEACE. FOR JUSTICE.
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July 06 2011 23:51 GMT
#1214
The ability also destroys nukes, so use it on a suspicious player, but also one who has fired, or seems like he would fire, nukes in the future, as it would get rid of part of his arsenal.

For example:

Sandroba (Who I personally feel is town, but it would be nice to know for sure, I also don't trust him to not random-shoot)
TAA (Wanted to use nukes earlier, this would remove part of his arsenal and reveal his alignment)
Sinani206 (Who I feel is still suspicious, and who claims his last nuke was "stolen")

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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 06 2011 23:58 GMT
#1223
On July 07 2011 08:57 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 08:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
The ability also destroys nukes, so use it on a suspicious player, but also one who has fired, or seems like he would fire, nukes in the future, as it would get rid of part of his arsenal.

For example:

Sandroba (Who I personally feel is town, but it would be nice to know for sure, I also don't trust him to not random-shoot)
TAA (Wanted to use nukes earlier, this would remove part of his arsenal and reveal his alignment)
Sinani206 (Who I feel is still suspicious, and who claims his last nuke was "stolen")



I got a PM from caller after I launched my second nuke at JeeJee that my third nuke had been stolen and I now had zero nukes.


I'd still like to see a public check on you, and also, this would confirm that your nuke is gone, as it would be destroyed if you're lying, or else it wouldn't effect you at all. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth. :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 00:00 GMT
#1226
Also, GM, is this hypothetically Role+Alignment, or just alignment? A public revealing of role might not be that great, if you miss scum =/
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 00:13 GMT
#1238
On July 07 2011 09:13 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 09:11 Palmar wrote:
On July 07 2011 09:09 Coagulation wrote:
GMarshal IF U DIE and flip GREEN
Who would be good nuke targets?


Everyone.



WHO WANTS ME TO NUKE THIS CLOWN?



It only furthers his win condition, lynch instead.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 00:15 GMT
#1239
On July 07 2011 09:10 Cthsazsa wrote:
GM use it on Mr. Wiggles.
He's giving me scummy vibes.

Hmmmm? I'm asking because, if say it came back as:

Player A, The U.N. Member

-Regenerates 2 Anti-missiles per day

Or something like that, where the benefits (Alignment check, -1 nuke) might not outweigh the drawbacks (Public role reveal, +1 radiation), then it might not be worth using, especially on a lurker, as opposed to an active person for whom role reveal is a final compromise to keep us from mislynching.
On July 07 2011 09:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 08:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:57 sinani206 wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
The ability also destroys nukes, so use it on a suspicious player, but also one who has fired, or seems like he would fire, nukes in the future, as it would get rid of part of his arsenal.

For example:

Sandroba (Who I personally feel is town, but it would be nice to know for sure, I also don't trust him to not random-shoot)
TAA (Wanted to use nukes earlier, this would remove part of his arsenal and reveal his alignment)
Sinani206 (Who I feel is still suspicious, and who claims his last nuke was "stolen")



I got a PM from caller after I launched my second nuke at JeeJee that my third nuke had been stolen and I now had zero nukes.


I'd still like to see a public check on you, and also, this would confirm that your nuke is gone, as it would be destroyed if you're lying, or else it wouldn't effect you at all. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth. :p


Why does it matter if he has a third nuke or not?? He hasn't used it and that's pretty damn good.

I'd like a check on Wiggles if possible, please.


It matters, because he's already proven he's derptastic enough to fire two missiles on day 1 just for funsies. I don't trust him with weapons of mass destruction anymore, that's why.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 00:46 GMT
#1243
Woops, forgot sinani is getting nuked unless someone intervenes. Check Sandroba then. I think he's prolly town, but a bunch of people think he might be scum, based on his slip, and shooting you. I'd like to get that cleared up sooner than later, so we don't potentially waste a lynch tomorrow.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 01:58 GMT
#1257
What's the designated time?
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July 07 2011 02:29 GMT
#1267
I understand everything now!
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July 07 2011 04:49 GMT
#1297
On July 07 2011 13:35 Zona wrote:
Alright, I read through once and will start reading again (or maybe reviving a tool that will make it easier for me to reread)

but for now two minor thoughts:

I think it's a good idea if we demand all anti-nukes that are used, to be claimed by the user, in order to link the person who was saved and the anti-nuker for later analysis.. Suppose a scum anti-nukes for another scum. If the anti-nuker is forced to claim, then the two players are linked for when later either one flips. If a town anti-nukes for someone they feel is town and is correct, that's a good situation later on for flips. (Of course if a town player anti-nukes for someone who is mafia, that's kind of bad - but this linkage information shouldn't be used in isolation, but along with other evidence that appears. There's also a potential gambit by a scum anti-nuker who saves a town and hopes the town flips later to burnish the scum's townie credentials, but in this case that scum loses an anti-nuke AND keeps a town member alive for the time being, so I think that's a worthy tradeoff).

Some of you are saying that we should leave the conspirator alone for now - but the role might have additional abilities that could be detrimental to everyone.


What's forcing them to claim though? Anti-nukes should be claimed, for the sake of better information, but if a scum anti-nukes another scum, I don't really think he'll claim, no matter how nicely we ask him.

Also, I'm lynching Palmar today. He's not town, we have no clue what additional abilities he has, or if the radiation cap or something else will be revealed with his role, and we have no reason to trust anything he says, besides his word, which is worth shit because he's not town. Besides that, he's shitting up the thread more than it already is.

People are talking about policy lynching people, even if you think they're town. Instead, how about policy lynching people who are known anti-town, so that we can stop mafia from hiding behind fake conspirator, or third party roles? Sounds better to me, than keeping scum around because they've claimed conspirator, or benevolent third party who wins if the nuke cap isn't met.

Also, I'm pretty sure his lynch is generating discussion, simply due to the fact that people are still discussing it, and not everyone is voting for him. What are you so worried about, heist?
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Mr. Wiggles
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July 07 2011 05:26 GMT
#1300
On July 07 2011 14:11 sandroba wrote:
@Wiggles Well you seemed pretty sure palmar was conspirator when you looked at my analysis, now that he claimed it what made you change your mind? Killing conspirator goes against town's wincondition.


1. I think he's conspirator, but that doesn't mean that he can't be scum, the same way you saw him as scummy before, but he might be conspirator.

2. Lynching him shows that we will kill all anti-town, and stops scum from hiding behind it in the future. If we don't lynch Palmar, then scum can claim some kind of third party role and not have to worry about being lynched, using Palmar as precedent.

3. We have no idea if Palmar wins or loses still upon dying if he is conspirator, or if he has additional powers. Just because he told you something doesn't make it true, and I for one, am not going to trust anything that comes out of his mouth. As well, his role flip, if conspirator, may reveal key pieces of information, such as the radiation limit, so that we know what is safe, to stop from killing everyone.

4. Palmar is shitting up the thread, and stupid townies (or mafia), are eating it up like candy and spamming the thread even more. I'm pretty sure there's something like 30 posts arguing about who wants their picture drawn, or who's going to pay him 6 Palmar-dollars to get him to vote for himself. It's a distraction, and it detracts from scum hunting.

Those are the four basic reasons I want to lynch Palmar.
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#1301
I also like how this last page is going compared to the other 64. Let's try to keep good discussion going.
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#1469
On July 08 2011 03:50 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 03:28 Curu wrote:
On July 08 2011 03:26 flamewheel wrote:
wat


y u quote my sig

y u quote my sayings


I c y post count so hi!

Huh?
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#1530
So do you belong to a country if you're a zombie? Or are you just "Random zombie who also happens to win with allies"?

Also, that's a good catch Cthsazsa.
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GM, since we have time to talk, can you explain your weird flip-flopping on Day 1 to me?

First you went from policy lynching Mataza even if he were town, to trying to shoot down the nuke heading towards him, and entrusting him to a warden for the town.

You also have a ton of contradictions after Mataza launched his nuke, about whether to lynch, or to nuke, and even though you had agreed on a lynch, you later call for a nuke, which YM took as permission to start firing. There's more contradictions too.

Can you explain this to me, please? (I can start quoting if you want, too)
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On July 09 2011 05:10 GMarshal wrote:
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On July 09 2011 05:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
GM, since we have time to talk, can you explain your weird flip-flopping on Day 1 to me?

First you went from policy lynching Mataza even if he were town, to trying to shoot down the nuke heading towards him, and entrusting him to a warden for the town.

You also have a ton of contradictions after Mataza launched his nuke, about whether to lynch, or to nuke, and even though you had agreed on a lynch, you later call for a nuke, which YM took as permission to start firing. There's more contradictions too.

Can you explain this to me, please? (I can start quoting if you want, too)

Sure, I was going to policy lynch anyone who nuked, to garner additional information I offered to nuke Mataza IF and only IF 50% of the town would agree. If YM, interpreted that as "permission" to nuke then he needs to actually read what I posted. I wanted to nuke Mataza so we could have more discussion for the lynch other than "policy". Then sand nuked me, and decided that "hey people who nuke aren't going to be lynched" and I had to get rid of my counter nuke, so I figured, if I save myself the town will decide I'm scum and spend all of tomorrow lynching me/nuking me, so I might as well save Mataza, who I had a town read on (despite the stupidity). Since we were apparently not policy lynching/nuking anyone, I might as well save him.

Funny you call me out on "flip flopping" when sand went from "no nuke" to "fuck this, NUKE GM", while I mostly maintained that nuking was a bad idea and should only be done with town consensus. Not that anyone listens to me.


Huh? I was just asking about you first, because I think I said somewhere that I bet you live through the nuke, and I was going to try to get you lynched today if you did. That was prompted by the big contradictions and flip-flopping. Since then, my read's changed a bit though, so I'm reading through some of your posts again. I wanted you to clarify what your thought process was there, and it's much better to get it from you, than to just make shit up.

Also, I get that San flip-flopped, weird how you want to redirect attention to him. Just because he did it, doesn't make him the only one who did it, nor does it mean that there should be no focus on other players. For the record, he's also a zombie who wants to eat my face, but that doesn't mean I can't ask other players questions.
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#1638
On July 09 2011 06:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Wiggles, Gm...opinion on deconduo.


He seems like he's lurking, he's showing up when called for, and his posting is very bland and safe. He doesn't seem super scummy, but he doesn't seem like super towny either. He's doing a good job of blending in. Could be scum, yeah, or just disinterested, hard to tell right now. Probably a good target to pressure once day officially starts.
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#1645
What do you mean retaliate? I'm not going to OMGUS you because you think I'm suspicious, lol.
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^In reference to heist
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kk, finally read through, couple posts I wanna address:

On July 10 2011 00:27 sandroba wrote:
Also feel free to nuke me to prove I'm not lying. Beware of the radiation though =P.


Nuking you proves nothing, all it proves is that you can survive a nuke. It also doesn't prove, even if you are a zombie, that you're actually aligned with town. Why are you so eager to get shot when it proves nothing?

On July 10 2011 00:55 syllogism wrote:
Regarding GMarshal, while I still think he is likely town, there is one possibility for him to fake claim. It's unlikely and ballsy, but it relies on the notion that there are "two diametrically opposed factions" who won't dare to counterclaim because the opposing faction's win-con is to kill the other one. I found it a bit odd how he claims he got to choose his leader, while the OP seems to imply both of them are in the game.

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A small Chinese restaurant that has two diametrically opposed factions:
Leaders: Cash Mai-Check and Malt Soydong.


This is wrong. If there were two factions, and they had to kill each other, the real Cash Mai wouldn't want to claim, no. However, in that case, the opposing faction would have just killed GM, because they thought he was the real Cash-Mai, and because he lost two lives, and would be wide open for a hit. So, he's either not lying about his name, or there aren't two Chinese factions who want to kill each other.

Also, ~OpZ~ is scummy as fuck, and that was a good catch for the win-con on Chaos' death.
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#1987
On July 10 2011 03:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote youngminii


Reasons?
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Or you can't launch nukes into orbit, kurumi O.o

And why the hell do YM and chaos have the same name? Twins? Clones? wtf, Caller.

Also, Mig, are you planning on discussing your nuke with town first, or are you going to follow the rest of the dummies and bring us down the road to Armageddon?
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#2083
On July 10 2011 07:37 PaqMan wrote:
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On July 10 2011 07:28 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 07:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 10 2011 07:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Or you can't launch nukes into orbit, kurumi O.o

And why the hell do YM and chaos have the same name? Twins? Clones? wtf, Caller.

Also, Mig, are you planning on discussing your nuke with town first, or are you going to follow the rest of the dummies and bring us down the road to Armageddon?

Given the weird role description and the sheer coincidence, I'm still inclined to believe either Caller or scum team changed the role. Probably Caller


Caller has changed my role already so It is probably him.


You've had like 3 different roles so far. lolol wtf


I bet he's trolling.
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On July 10 2011 09:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On July 10 2011 01:20 sandroba wrote:
@Curu between me and opz who would you prefer to lynch today?
I was the first one to point out this post, which nails opz as scum to the ground:
On July 09 2011 14:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On July 09 2011 14:19 heist wrote:
What I don't understand is why Chaos did nothing when someone else roleclaimed as him. I support the nuke option but wait till more people weigh in.

...I'm uncertain....but kill him.

I'm not letting another calleresque fiasco like WaW1 happening again.

Only scum could make a post like this, given the situation.
If you are uncertain about YM being scum at this point you better have a damn good reason. And if you do if you are a townie you share it with town. YM claimed a name and someone dies and flips the exact same name. What about that makes you uncertain YM is scum? If you are town and not as clever as syllo NOTHING. If you are as clever as syllo you point it out. As scum you want to look good after we lynch an innocent and that's the reason for this post.

...
Wtf are you talking about....

Lmao...That post was after chaos's death.

I don't want another Caller style WaW1 Fuck up and I'm getting lynched for it. Thanks. Lol...This is gonna be too funny.

And I ALWAYS THINK YM IS SCUM. Read the post you pointed out to YM. Like two posts later he goes "Opz...you always think I'm scum, lets kill decunduo" which I took scummy as hell, but I was down.
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On July 10 2011 01:29 Curu wrote:
OpZ I have no clue. He's a lurker and now comes in guns blazing. I'm inclined to believe he's tunneling dec to provoke a response and I didn't really like dec's response. Then again they might just be tunnel fucking each other.

This exactly. I pushed deconduo AND DID NOT GET A RESPONSE I LIKED. I got a response and was chainsawed. Screams scum.

The lack of defense for me, and willingness of everyone to vote for me should say a lot. GGQ did not get no where the amount of attention I got, and I chose to go head on at someone, UNLIKE HIM. God I need to check thread more. Will finish reading, then based on votes on me, we'll see what happens.


The main point of the case is that you seemed very certain in your opinion that YM was scum. You were constantly pushing him forwards as being a mafia candidate, and didn't waver in that opinion. However, after Chaos' death, (And that's the main point), you showed uncertainty towards YM's alignment, when you didn't before. If anything, YM being directly contradicted in his claim by Chaos' death should have made you more certain that he was scum, not less. It looks like a scum who wants to appear uncertain, so that he was not seen as one of those pushing most strongly for YM's death, if he flips town. In other words, it looks very scummy to suddenly show trepidation where there was none before when evidence came forward that YM was very likely to be scum.
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On July 10 2011 10:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh wow. I'm being lynched because I said I'm uncertain he's scum because of the name claim? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? FUCKING LOOK AT HOW HE WAS POSTING WHEN IT WAS POINTED OUT. I wasn't sure to believe him or not, BUT I'M ALWAYS fine with lynching him. Always.

Seriously, you don't have people you can't ever get a read of Wiggles? That'd given the opportunity for them to be lynched you wouldn't take it 99% of the time? YM is that person for me. I'm always willing to vote for him because I can't feel him out, even though he posts a lot.


Ok, but why, if you thought he was scum all game, did you randomly decide that your read on him was uncertain, after it became incredibly likely that he was scum? If you can explain that, I'll be willing to take my vote off you.
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#2150
On July 10 2011 10:41 PaqMan wrote:
Dec's either a zombie or Boreritish.

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On July 07 2011 14:27 GGQ wrote:
I'm gonna switch to Palmar since sandroba isn't getting lynched.

It's gonna be hard to have an opinion until the dust clears tomorrow. Right now this town couldn't find it's own ass with a compass.


lol woops. Found his breadcrumb.

This doesn't mean GGQ is Town. But I'm probably wrong.
Oh well. This game is a big clusterfuck.

For the love of God, Town please lynch Drazerk and Sandroba.
I've also been suspicious of Wiggles. And I was right about him the last 2 games.

##Nuke Mr. Wiggles
##Nuke Mig


Let the World burn <3


Also, what the fuck, Paqman?
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On July 10 2011 11:19 PaqMan wrote:
Yes, I can fire my nukes simultaneously. No, I'm a Polish Guy. I'm wasting my ammunition because I'm going to die anyways and it's not going to raise the WRL.

I want Drazerk lynched because he's constantly pulling lies out of his ass. Sandroba needs to be lynched because he's a fucking zombie. Read the transmission from the day post. If you still believe that Zombies win with Town, please nuke yourself.

Wiggles your play is the same every game I've been in with you. And every game I've been in with you, you turned out to be scum.


Tell me where I'm pushing mafia objectives, and then come back. Go read some of my town games too. I'm constantly accused of acting scummy, and that's why people have a hard time trying to tell whether I'm mafia or town, because I look similar either way. Great when I'm mafia, but now I guess it's come back to bite me in the ass.

And for those wondering about my name, I'm the Vault-Dweller. And I'm from the future.
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#2168
On July 10 2011 11:41 PaqMan wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there, but wasn't Poland invaded by Germany in WW2?

Yeah... I'm not Axis.
GG guys.


I'm not Axis either, GG.

I'm here to stop the nukes. GUESS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, LOL.
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#2171
On July 10 2011 11:45 Curu wrote:
Oh dear god.

sandroba I forgive you for nuking against your policy. My trigger finger's itching itself now.


Please don't fire, I don't want the conspirators to win...
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#2193
Ok, so time to start claiming a little, in hopes someone saves me, I only got a couple hours.

I come from a future, where the world is nothing but ash. After the great nuclear war of 1944, the world was reduced to rubble, driving the remnants of humanity underground into vaults. In 2132, we finally developed the technology to travel back in time. They sent me. My job, is to kill the conspirators, and stop Nuclear Armageddon from happening.

To do this, I brought back some technology. This technology helps me to stop nukes, and keeping people around who I think might help me.

All flavour aside, my job is to kill the conspirators. Once they're gone, I'm removed from the game, because the future I came from never happens (Back to the future style, lol). I also have an ability I use to help town (And my win-con), because they're more likely to kill/lynch conspirators than scum.

Go back through my history. I figured out that Palmar was the conspirator, and after that I pushed hard for him. My whole goal day 1 was to kill Palmar, who claimed conspirator. However, I wasn't removed from the game, so that means that there's more conspirators kicking around. I also opposed people firing nukes, and wanted people to stop, because I don't want the conspirators to win, I want to kill them. My win-con's also probably why most of you think I'm so scummy. I don't really care about finding scum (lol), I care about finding the conspirators.

Save me, and I can keep using more power for town. Last night I used it on Kurumi, who, surprisingly, I found to be the most level headed person here, lol.
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#2205
On July 10 2011 12:12 Mig wrote:
Then you should be saying sorry to me Paq. I have an ability which was incredibly powerful for town. Wiggles is just another 3rd party.


My ability is very useful for town too. I wouldn't use it on people I think are scum, because they're not going to shoot at conspirators (who look scummy), and there's still the chance one kills me. Much better to work with town, and just try to direct them towards conspirators.
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#2206
On July 10 2011 12:13 PaqMan wrote:
But I like the Fallout games.


Well, now you'll get to play them in real life, judging by how trigger happy this town is. I hope Drazerk is telling the truth about what he said, and that his ability lasts for another day.
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#2208
On July 10 2011 12:16 PaqMan wrote:
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On July 10 2011 12:13 Mig wrote:
I mean it doesn't matter I guess, either my power is going to work or you managed to kill a townie and 3rd party who wanted to help town.


Well you should probably save yourself.

or GGQ.

Wiggles said he has technology that can stop nukes, so he might be more valuable to Town.

Decisions, decisions.


Mig's is more useful because it's reactionary. Mine is preemptive, but also helps against mafia night-kills.
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I'm hoping someone has an anti-missile
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#2212
On July 10 2011 12:20 Ciryandor wrote:
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On July 10 2011 06:12 Curu wrote:
Ok what the fucking fuck is fucking going on. Fuck.

sandroba I'm easing up on you for now. You're still in my sights but not tunnel-worthy anymore. I proposed my kamikaze against you to see your reaction. You rejected it saying you don't think I am 100% scum. That's the only plausible Townie explanation for not going for a one-for-one trade and that bought you a bit of cred in my eyes.

I also wanted to see YM's reaction and he blindly attacked me for it without reading what was actually in my post. In my eyes this affirmed a connection between you two along with the antinukes and everything. But now he's flipped Town so I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore. I guess he's just an emotional guy. He wanted to defend you because you were supportive of him and attack me because I was suspicious of him I guess. I also thought your missile was launched with the knowledge that he would survive so you could make it appear there was less connection between you two. But that's wrong too.

WHY the hell are there two Borenards? And wtf is operation Marco Polo? Marco Polo is famous for his travels throughout Asia. GMarshal did something happen to you? Marco Polo doesn't sound like a death rewrite to me but maybe the names have nothing to do with the effects.

On July 10 2011 05:21 Caller wrote:
On July 10 2011 05:17 Mig wrote:
I don't understand why he died tho? I thought extra lives made it so you survived nuclear blasts. Shouldn't YM have gotten an extra life with our last operation?

Here's a hint: I'm an asshole.


Are there hidden drawbacks or something you aren't telling us about the campaigns? It's either sandroba has super duper nukes or the campaigns have hidden drawbacks. Or YM wasn't actually Boreritish and something is seriously fucking with the name flips.

Let's see what happens to TAA. He claimed Boreritish right? If this extra life he supposedly got didn't actually come into effect or the campaign somehow has a hidden drawback (like extra night life but not nuke life) then you just put yourself in deep shit.


See this event as the explanation for Marco Polo. Given what happened there, it certainly looks like their mission was a frame. As for today's clusterfuck; I concede that I haven't been very active, but Zona hasn't been active and has not contributed much analysis or insight in the thread. Finally, bros, soft-claiming now isn't going to help us much. I really want to throw a nuke, but Mr. Wiggles will hate me more for it, unless I get to kill Conspirators for him.


Drazerk claims no radiation today, and Caller confirmed, fire away. I'm going to look for who seems most like a conspirator to use my one nuke on.
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#2214
On July 10 2011 12:24 Mig wrote:
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On July 10 2011 12:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Drazerk claims no radiation today, and Caller confirmed, fire away. I'm going to look for who seems most like a conspirator to use my one nuke on.


I hope you hit a scum. But look for people who haven't fired a nuke yet. Palmar had no nukes so seems likely the other conspirator doesn't either. I might shoot Coag if I were you. He claimed to have a bunch of nukes and just seems so uncoag to not fire any of them.


Coag claimed British leader and wasn't counter-claimed though, didn't he?
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#2222
So have you tried saving yourself yet?
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#2225
On July 10 2011 12:46 Mig wrote:
Yea I sent it in. No word back on if it will work.


So it should be hitting scum, then? :p

I actually can't find anyone who jumps out at me as conspirator like Palmar did =/

Might just take my nuke to the grave, haha. I'd still rather town wins than scum, and I'm more likely to hit town than scum, random firing. :p

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#2228
On July 10 2011 13:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Okay.....Sense nobody is unvoting me I'm joining this nuke party.

Good Night Syllo.


Lol, I'd unvote you, but there's no point, really. I'll do it for the symbolic gesture though, haha.

Also, Mig, if I decide to shoot, who'd you redirect to, so that I don't overlap and waste my only KP?
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And in case no one figured it out, I'm a medic who protects against night-kills, but also nukes the following day.
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#2232
On July 10 2011 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
Well I must admit. considering If we dont take a hit to radiation level if we nuke now If any of you idiots feel compelled to use your nukes all willy nilly and shit for fucks sake do it now while you dont drag all of town down with you.


Drazerk said we have tomorrow to go crazy too, unless he's lying, of course.
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#2240
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcJAI6oRYY&feature=related


Well, I guess that's that, then.

##Nuke: Drazerk

You've claimed so many different roles, it's impossible to keep count. I also don't believe you about having two consecutive radiation free days after today. I'm guessing it's a lie to get town to start firing freely again, which would suit you nicely, wouldn't it, CONSPIRATOR?! No reason to trust you, and I think you've just been trolling all game long while we annihilate ourselves with nuclear weapons.
See you in Hell.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSK-1guFLDk


Let's go out classy.
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#2248
On July 10 2011 13:36 heist wrote:
How about this for the lynch? We lynch whoever lives from all the nukes?


Too late, better start building vaults.
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#2251
On July 10 2011 13:38 GGQ wrote:
So what are the chances that there's no mafia at all, and the only bad guys are the zombies?


Nazi Zombies?
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#2253
On July 10 2011 13:41 heist wrote:
It was a joke saying that nobody is gonna be left alive to lynch by the end of the day.


Ashes to ashes, I guess.
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#2258
On July 10 2011 14:00 GMarshal wrote:
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On July 10 2011 13:51 Eiii wrote:
actually I'll just vote for GM now

Yes, please vote for the guy who claimed an Allied role and wasn't counterclaimed, rather than a self claimed Zombie. I'm sure your undead masters will be overjoyed.


He's just doing it for the brainnzzzzzzzzz <3

He's mindless, right?
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lol, zombies.
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lol, dinosaurs? O.o
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#2270
On July 10 2011 14:15 PaqMan wrote:
O hey my missiles didn't go boom.


Let's hope they stay that way. Pretty please, tell me they were duds? :p
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#2272
On July 10 2011 14:17 Coagulation wrote:
I WILL CALL YOUR ZOMBIES AND RAISE YOU 1 DINOSAUR


BUT HE'S NOT JUST A DINOSAUR, HE'S A DINOSAUR CYBORG ROBOT. THAT SHOOTS LASERS.
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#2291
So am I trapped in limbo?
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Lol, time travel. GG guys, god I'm getting tired of being red, haha. It also got my hopes up when I didn't explode with the polish guy, only to have them crushed two pages later T.T
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#3060
Ok, so this is over now:
Original Message From Caller:
You are the Kingdom of Vatican's Benedict Mussolini!

You are somehow religious and able to consecrate things. Any player you touch is immune to all other night actions as well as nuclear weapons for the following day. You may not touch yourself because onanism is against the teachings of the church.

You have one nuclear weapon that you may shoot during the day. Your allies are:

Kitaman27
JeeJee
Kurumi
TheAwesomeAll
Prplhz
Deconduo
Curu

Be weary of internal disputes, however!

In addition, you and your team members must send me a PM before night ends indicating who you want to night hit that night (with most votes winning) as well as the campaign you want to initiate (which I will inform you and the others that night). A no vote counts as an abstain.


No alternate win condition, hahahahah. Mafia thought I had one, because I wouldn't tell them my name or country, because I was being careful of some kind of assassin traitor who wins by killing all the Axis leaders or something. I'm not sure what the other win-cons were for other people, but I was suspicious they existed.

I also came up with Oppenheimer by looking up the lead scientists to the Manhattan Project.

I also invented Laser Tyrannosaurus Cyborg-Robot, who wins by eating Hitler, when JeeJee wanted a ridiculous role-claim.

I also invented the Vault-Dweller, and town just ate that one up, I'm sad TAA or Kurumi weren't on to save me, because I had a nice plan for how it would play out on Day 3. Basically, keeping me alive, and believing my claim, put the fear of additional conspirators into town. Any kind of distrust among town players normally helps mafia, especially when the distrust stems from manipulative third parties. :p I probably would have shot my nuke at Mig or Heist, but shot it at Drazerk, on the off-chance the nuke was a dud or I survived, as he was one of the only ones I could plausibly accuse as conspirator. Also, I was confirmable, because all I had to do was protect someone and have them be nuked. With Dec's doubling power, I could have even protected a real town, if I needed to. Oh well, Caller Game, plans aren't supposed to work, haha.

I also need some games as town. I generally play similarly as scum and town, but I haven't played town in forever, so it's starting to negatively affect me, haha. Basically, a lot of the players with around 3 games have only ever seen me as scum, so if I play similarly, they just think I'm scum. As well, I'm starting to have trouble pretending to be green, because I forget how it feels to be green, and just end up looking scummy, lol. Gonna have to start shifting my play style a bit and yelling at people who try to use a meta argument against me.

GG, guys. Also funny how town believed all my claims, but not the Pacific ocean one. What's more plausible, being a time-traveler, being a cyborg-dinosaur, or being a body of water? :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 12 2011 19:10 GMT
#3062
On July 13 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:
Oh my bad, all credit for my claim to Wiggles then not TAA. I thought you had an alternate win con cause you flipped red then town in your death post.


Yeah, I noticed that too, it was kind've weird. What I thought people were referencing, was in the IRC the first day, where people were trying to figure out who I was, and I said I didn't want to tell (Or needed to tell), unless someone else had an alternate win-con. I remember Kita asking me a lot about my name, haha, did he have an alternate win-con?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 12 2011 19:17 GMT
#3065
On July 13 2011 04:15 Curu wrote:
Naw it was just because of this post:

Show nested quote +
So our roles and countries weren't told to each other. Is this intended? That coupled with the "beware of internal disputes" makes me think some of you have victory conditions that aren't completely aligned with just killing the Town.

My best bet is that one of you is the Conspirator or that you need the Godfather to be lynched too to win so you can "take over" as the Axis leader. We might even have a Mafia within the Mafia.

Still with nothing more solid to go on perhaps we should focus on killing all Town first before turning our investigations internal.


Which I made, that's why Kita kept asking you.

And turns out both my suspicions were right it seems, TAA won with Conspirator and dec needed to kill TAA (the Godfather) lol.


Lol, ok. Seriously, though, an assassin who wins by killing Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito, would've pissed me off soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much. That's the first thing I thought of. Especially with the vote to kill mechanics. I thought people were talking secretly in PMs and plotting the whole game.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 12 2011 19:40 GMT
#3069
On July 13 2011 04:34 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 03:30 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry guys, but we lost this when the town launched 14 nukes. I was going to honestly try to salvage it today, but I was not in any shape to write anything yesterday.

This game showcases why "let the town do its own thing" is absolutely retarded, townies are by definition stupid and *will* just fire because "nukes are cool" or "its fun". Once town reaches that stage its practically impossible to stabilize


I Fired 1 nuke at scum. And I voted to lynch kita.

Why the fuck did we lose to radiation. Yet mafia didnt die to it as well?
Also didnt I NUKE DECON what happen with that??

DIDNT CALLER CONFIRM HIMSELF THERE WOULD BE NO RADIATION THIS CYCLE???
How did town lose this?? Scum team got raped..


All nukes fired at Decon this cycle couldn't hurt him because of my protection, lolol. He could have eaten infinity nukes, same with TAA. I'm surprised no town caught that, as it was my real role in my fake claim, and in the OP after I died.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 12 2011 21:13 GMT
#3076
I'm just sad we never actually got to see an axis campaign, haha.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 13 2011 20:52 GMT
#3083
I found it hilarious too <3
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