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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:19 GMT
#1807
On July 09 2011 22:14 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 20:16 syllogism wrote:
There's only one good reason for that, and that's wanting to avoid killing boretish players due to youngminii's stupid, premature name claim.

lol

i'm going to start collecting every post that is /facepalm worthy which you'll realise when i flip green since i don't really have anything else to do

The only even remotely possible scenario for you not flipping red is if there's some kind of strange scum janitor role that allows rewriting role descriptions of people they hit. No way they would have used that to frame you though
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:28 GMT
#1815
I did find something strange though, the wording of that victory condition doesn't match the one I have, despite being otherwise the same. Obviously not enough to clear you, but if such a janitor role did exist, it would make sense for them to get that wrong (the one that description has it copied from OP).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:36 GMT
#1820
I'm now convinced he was framed
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:48 GMT
#1831
On July 09 2011 22:46 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 17:45 syllogism wrote:
We might have to make you name claim tomorrow Drazerk because of your utterly anti-town lies


I hope my name claim has now completely changed your opinion on what role I am and now believe that I am in fact working for the good of humanity.

Is your actual posting restriction to fake claim every day, because that role doesn't make sense either haha
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:56 GMT
#1841
I'm up for lynching Opz, but it would be nice to hear Coag's name claim before that too
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 13:57 GMT
#1842
On July 09 2011 22:56 sandroba wrote:
@syllo you are a genious I hope you are not scum though =P.

Yes, I've to say I'm rather satisfied with myself if I'm correct considering how much time I spent defending YM. His play doesn't make any sense at all for scum (it's kind of bad for town too but that's more realistic).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 14:06 GMT
#1848
Hahahah okay definitely voting Opz
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 14:13 GMT
#1850
Notice that the previously dead clear "blue" role was also just green

"Chales de Gaurre: If Paur Leynaud dies, you gain a vengeance ability that you may use when you die to kill anyone of your choice."
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 14:23 GMT
#1852
Can we get our campaign options? Also axis campaigns were supposed to be announced on the day post, so will there be a new day post or is that it?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 14:36 GMT
#1855
I don't think gtrsr has posted/voted yet, that would be a waste
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 14:52 GMT
#1859
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#1865
On July 09 2011 23:58 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 23:52 syllogism wrote:
He has 0 posts, no votes since the game started. You aren't even trying. What is your opinion on Opz based on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10209743

and that youngminii was likely framed

If he has no votes why hasn't he been modkilled? Sorry, but I hate lurkers.

My opinion on ~Opz~ ?

He has exactly the same response I do, when a situation is sketchy like that resolve it. Easiest way to resolve it is to kill the main suspect. Until you caught the tidbit about the win-con I would have happily lynched ym. I do think ~Opz~ has a couple scummy content-less posts, but those wanting to kill YM are in no way scummy, in fact they are the proper response.

The problem is he wanted to lynch YM before this likely fake "flip" and after that he was "uncertain"
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 15:12 GMT
#1869
Should we wait until tomorrow since someone is building maginot line and if he dies, it gets interrupted ? I suppose we might have a medic type role though
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#1883
Regarding GMarshal, while I still think he is likely town, there is one possibility for him to fake claim. It's unlikely and ballsy, but it relies on the notion that there are "two diametrically opposed factions" who won't dare to counterclaim because the opposing faction's win-con is to kill the other one. I found it a bit odd how he claims he got to choose his leader, while the OP seems to imply both of them are in the game.

A small Chinese restaurant that has two diametrically opposed factions:
Leaders: Cash Mai-Check and Malt Soydong.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:00 GMT
#1884
Why have two different leaders just to give the players an option to choose between two different powers? Or if the other player really is in the game, why would GMarshal get to pick his leader?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:01 GMT
#1886
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10152206
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:18 GMT
#1894
Are all the leaders listed in the op actually present in the game

probably not a valid question, but doesn't hurt to try
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:19 GMT
#1895
Actually I think I solved the mystery

"i crunched two roles into 29"
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:48 GMT
#1922
Lets recap the problems with the day post and youngminii being mafia

1. Wrong victory condition (copied straight from OP). Youngminii knew the correct victory condition.
2. No axis campaign listed. The OP specifically states that "The Axis Campaign will begin the following night and will be announced in the Day post. ". This isn't conclusive unfortunately as it could be be announced on the next day post, rather than this one
3. The probability of mafia hitting the person who was used for fake claim on the same day is very low.
4. Youngminii wasn't forced to name claim. Why would mafia claim for no reason, especially such a high profile figure
5. This is WIFOM, but mafia hitting chaos13 didn't really make sense. There was nothing in his posts that hinted he was some high value target and he wasn't really pushing anyone hard. There were better targets. The only thing in posts stands out is the bit about NOT BELIEVING CLAIMS. It makes perfect sense to hit him if they were going to use him to frame someone. Not so much if they were afraid of him counterclaiming.
6. Youngminii's actions on day 1 don't make sense for mafia; this is obviously arguable
7. Youngminii's acting is stellar if he is actually mafia. Kudos in that case. Given the evidence against him, I think most players would give up
8. The day post is really lacking in content. Conveniently Caller was around so this doesn't prove much.
9. Chaos13 didn't counterclaim. Maybe he wasn't around, maybe he didn't want to claim until day 2 so he wouldn't be sniped before he got his extra life. Also, according to that day post, his ability is day vig...
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 16:58 GMT
#1933
"Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill", Sir Winceton Borenard Churchill would have been more believable. The only issue with his "fake claim" is that it's a pretty ballsy one.
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