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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 26 2011 04:47 GMT
#66
/in if I still can....
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 27 2011 23:53 GMT
#113
Darth Vader NO! is now going to be EXCLUSIVELY how I express disappointment in this thread from here on out. Just sayin.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 27 2011 23:59 GMT
#116
WHY NOT?!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 00:05 GMT
#119
@RoL
I think everyone's just excited to see if they're the heroic Compulsive Vig who gets to kill lurkers with impunity.

I know I am.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 01:45 GMT
#127
RoL...I love to hate to love you.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 02:55 GMT
#137
Wow, as on edge as people were about the game starting, I figured I'd be hard-pressed to be making the first in-game post.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 03:05 GMT
#146
Perhaps at their own discretion...obviously dt checks would be wasted on lurkers, so maybe look at their VERY few posts and try and divine the most likely-to-be-mafia lurkers? Or maybe we come to a consensus as a town as to which lurkers to target?

Lurker KP is going to be COOL!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 04:59 GMT
#213
I see both sides of making lists. The discussion it generates is a definite plus for town, if it's focused the right way. YM, you referenced the Zodiac List from XLII...what you didn't take into account was that after he posted the Zodiac List, BC didn't guide the discussion after it...making it bad for town. He used the fact that no one uses the list properly to his advantage. Had he been town, he likely would have guided discussion properly, and it likely would have been more of a help for town.

There are a lot of likelies in that statement, and I'm well aware of it, tyvm. That's just my opinion.

Conversely, when abused, the Zodiac Lists DO tend to clutter up the thread.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 05:36 GMT
#220
I enjoy how GMarshal included Palmar on the Vet list, yet his first game was my first game as well. Yes, he had a strong showing for Mafia that game...but in all honesty, scum won from an inactive town. I wonder what motivation GMarshal has putting a new player like Palmar (if you'd like to see an example of his 'stellar town play', may I direct you to PTP?) in the 'Vet' side of that list. He's certainly no vet as far as I'm concerned.

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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 05:54 GMT
#229
On June 28 2011 14:42 GMarshal wrote:
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On June 28 2011 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I enjoy how GMarshal included Palmar on the Vet list, yet his first game was my first game as well. Yes, he had a strong showing for Mafia that game...but in all honesty, scum won from an inactive town. I wonder what motivation GMarshal has putting a new player like Palmar (if you'd like to see an example of his 'stellar town play', may I direct you to PTP?) in the 'Vet' side of that list. He's certainly no vet as far as I'm concerned.


I thought he played well, is that going to be a point of contention?

Sure he fucked up in PTP, but he *did* nail me when I was happily leading the town to do my bidding. In fact without him being resurrected the town would have assuredly lost. Your opinions are your own, I made some opinionated calls on that list, which I am more than happy to defend.

Fun fact, scum want to *avoid* being in the vet section of that list, as thats where the pressure is going to be when the vets start dying. Much like DB begged to be taken off the zodiac list in PTP, any mafia up there are now going to start second guessing their shots, as they don't want to expose themselves.


GM, the whole idea of you making a list like that is to discuss it. I'm not attacking you, so there isn't anything to defend. I disagreed with your choice and I made my opinion known.

If you're gonna step up to bat, be ready to swing sir...that's all I'm sayin. If we as a town are going to follow you (don't you even pretend you're not bucking for town leadership at this point ), I for one want to make absolutely sure there's no ulterior motive behind the things you say. Call me paranoid, but I trusted BC in PTP and it bit me in the ass...in a big way.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 05:55 GMT
#231
EBWODP
in XLII...it's pretty obvious I didn't trust him in PTP LMAO
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 06:23 GMT
#240
@GM

At any rate, 201 is correct, Palmar DID /out before the game started. He'll either be Mod-killed or replaced before Day 2, I totally forgot.

Aside from adding LSB to the vet list, which Wiggles already suggested, I have no problems with your list. :D

NOW

What do we do with it? We've pretty much unanimously decided that blues will be acting on their own with VERY limited guidance from the rest of town. Should we just go down the list and start asking people their opinions on each one? Or is that just something to look at once people start dying?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 06:42 GMT
#244
:O

I go to do research to answer GM's question and I come back to this?!?! Real Time is going to be INSANITY.

Vaccuous and fluffy. I think 201 is leading there with the 8-10 (exaggeration, but just barely) posts concerning his name. Yes, we get it. They're not the same people.

I was also going to say LSB for talking about a plan to put people on the lurker list and then not following through...but....
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 07:06 GMT
#253
I almost said something about that GM, as you seem like the type to diversify your vocabulary.

Who do YOU feel is disrupting town so far?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 07:20 GMT
#257
@Sandroba

GM fully admits to subscribing to a controversial stance that he'll catch flack for. Don't you think he'd be toning it down a bit on the lurker-hunt if he were scum?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 07:24 GMT
#260
I mean, the thing is he's right in theory. They have to trade in their 1 DT check for their 2 lurker checks unless I'm mistaken. That's 1 less DT check town has in its arsenal, right?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 16:15 GMT
#331
Only 4 pages in 8 hours...not bad guys, but it seems we're caught up in a lot of mudslinging and tunneling, something I thought we as a town vowed not to do d1.

Yes, we have to find a lynch target for today...but come on guys. Bring a case with SUBSTANCE.

I know, I haven't done much in the way of scumhunting yet. You don't have to remind me. I'm working on a case as we speak. Just letting you know I'm awake and reading.

Ciao!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 28 2011 23:38 GMT
#470
It appears the main topic of discussion here is Dazek vs. Syllogism. In the name of keeping discussion down to a few candidates, I'm going to go ahead and read back through these two individuals' posts. Stay tuned!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 29 2011 00:03 GMT
#474
I fail to see how you flipping green will prove ANYTHING about GM. You could just as easily be wrong about GM. However, if you flip RED, it's unlikely that GM is town...but I wouldn't lynch him based on that alone.

Dealing in absolutes is very scummy to me. Just sayin.

Back to reading. -.-
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#476
Appx 28 hours I think?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 29 2011 16:32 GMT
#596
Guys, wow. I've literally never awoken to find this many votes on a totally different target than before (let alone the other target being ME). Holy piss. Yes, I've promised contribution. I've been rereading and rereading and rereading again. The result is not-so-surprising. Instead of defending myself (I have excuses, none of them good), I'm going to share my thoughts with the town as a whole. Give me a few minutes to get everything together, but now that the pressure is on, you can believe me this time. :D
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 29 2011 17:37 GMT
#618
The Case of Drazerk

First of all, I'd like to officially apologize for my absenteeness. I can only imagine what you must think (luckily I don't have to, because your votes speak volumes).

I'd like to preface my case with the following general observations:

1)GM has disappeared since suspicion has started to fall on him.

2)Town has like 7 lynch candidates right now. Drazerk and myself are the strongest, but it is MUCH better for town if we consolidate our votes onto one or two targets. Anyone who hasn't should vote for either Drazerk or myself, regardless of who else you think is scummy. There's time to get to YOUR suspicion later on, I promise.

3)Events occur in real time. TAA's death was jarring, but such is the nature of this game.

Okay, now that that's out of the way, on to the case.

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On June 28 2011 16:38 Drazerk wrote:
Right I have just woke up and I am read the thread.

@Sandroba - Ive not got an Opinion on Gm yet he seems to be pro town just crazy about killing lurkers which would not be a bad thing in any other game but with the lurker mechanic all the scum will More or less be spamming to stay off it.

As for Young His plan seemed to revolve around the mafia only having 1 KP which could of been a mistake rather than a Deliberate plan to confuse the medics but it is less likely to be a mafia ploy since he would know about the KP.

It is possible for Gm to be scum but I still need to read through the whole of the thread before i can make my mind up


In this post, Drazerk takes the 'townie' road of soft-defending GM because, as usual, GM is posting in a wholly pro-town manner. Goes ahead and makes his opinion irrelevent however, because he then says that GM COULD be scum. As if rereading the thread will just MAKE it so. Amazing.

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On June 28 2011 21:46 Drazerk wrote:
After reading Dropbear's post on Henry is anyone Else suspicious of Edward the first?

At the start of the game he is Pretty much forced into talking by Henry which Dropbear picked up on but no one really followed it up. ( I think LSB died a few moments later )

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On June 28 2011 14:37 Sinani201 wrote:
On June 28 2011 14:26 DropBear wrote:


2.
On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote:
On June 28 2011 12:15 sinani206 wrote:
Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going.

I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game.

If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted?


You're already voting for me?

First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201.

Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely.

I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute.

This little exchange confuses me. Why was it necessary to do this? Scumbuddies I wonder, trying to keep each other from being lurker targets? This early matey stuff reminds me of Irish_Punk13 in XXXIX. We all know what alignment he ended up flipping. Voting Edward the 1st.


This post appears to be Drazerk attacking 2 newer players for their "contentless posts"...a theme that runs RAMPANT on TL forums. The difference in this game is that when this statement was made, Draz had done VERY little in the way of providing any kind of content himself. Also interesting to note, at the tiem of this post, LSB had JUST died...and Drazerk doesn't mention it at all. Sounds like someone wasn't surprised.

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On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:

a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.

It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.

But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.

Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game )


This post seems scummy to me...as not only excited about someone starting a bandwagon, he's also introducing multiple targets to the lynch. Anti-town.

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On June 29 2011 01:15 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 29 2011 01:04 sandroba wrote:
Okay, go read syllogism big post about medics optmization and ask yourself if it makes sense for mafia to be posting that. Now go DT check drazek, because he's scum.

Well that one is unexpected -

Go on scan me i have nothing to hide


This read is questionable, I'll admit: I feel like anyone SUBMITTING to DT checks because they have "nothing to hide" is scummy to me. It seems if he were town, he would encourage a DT to look ELSEWHERE as a DT check on him would be wasted. I may be wrong here, but this seems super-scummy to me.

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On June 29 2011 01:16 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 29 2011 01:15 Vain wrote:
So, wait a minute, lets look at this for a moment.
On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:
On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:

a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.

It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.

But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.

Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game )

And then goes to vote:
On June 28 2011 22:25 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Sinani206


So, first he states one guy is scum and then he's like: "oh nvm that ill vote for the OTHER GUY"

wat


I stated i was suspicious of both of them but 201 over 206 - if your all going to vote for someone it is best to consolidate votes preventing a mafia lynch swing


So Vain calls out Drazerk for his hypocricy, and NOW Drazerk decides it's best to consolidate targets. Interesting.

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On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 29 2011 01:26 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
YM and Syllo stop arguing with each other, you arent producing anything.

On June 29 2011 00:38 syllogism wrote:
I checked his post history earlier. He has generated a lot of discussion which is goodt and is obviously attempting to establish himself as a town leader. Some of his posts have a bit weak logic, but I didn't notice anything particularly anti-town. I'm leaning town as if he were scum, he would pretty much have to be GF. Stating he isn't wishywashy about his vote is a bit odd though.
Who are you talking about? What do you think? cast your vote?
You are soft defending him, like really really soft. Almost as if you dont want to be associated with him if he were to turn red. Dont do that .
Also you are playing so defensive
On June 29 2011 00:12 syllogism wrote:
Oh okay so the one who has actually posted something of substance is the suspicious one. The one who has given the new and different format some thought rather than post worthless lists and copy pasted "how town should play" guides. Perfect.

My plan for lynch was going to be lynching someone who has posted a lot to avoid being on the lurker list without contributing anything, but unfortunately some players feel the need to post their every single thought, including the fact this is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives present. I even hinted that Dropbear should stop alluding to this plan as it relies on players not actually being aware of it, but he still made another reference.
what was that post about, who is accusing you?
FoS list

hiro
GM
syllogism
Drazerk

YM stop spamming, you are not doing the town any favors. Also arguing with Syllo will only does him favors if he is scum. In general these stupid 'fights' are really anti town since mafia can blend in, participate, post, with 0% slip chance.
Why is everyone ignoring GM?? I posted a LOT on him and no one is responding? Dropbear posted 2 posts 1 accusing GM 1 accusing *Henry* Drazerk comes in and Asking if anyone else felt like he did after that post of Dropbear. Removing all his responsability, then he waits for Palmar to vote before he votes.
Discussion derailed.
As pointed out above drazerk is obvious mafia,
But he isnt sitting back, hes actively derailing the thread so GMarshal doesnt get lynched

Drazerk do you think GM is mafia? Can you defend yourself? Do you think Hiro is mafia?


How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre?

Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )

As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything.


What's important to note about this post is the martyring bit. Note he not only references a previous game to encourage people to meta him, he references Martyring himself the way he does later in the thread. This leads me to believe that his martyrdom was not only premeditated, but also scummy.

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On June 29 2011 02:55 Drazerk wrote:
Right I am going to come out and change my mind, While looking through Hiro's posts I reread the entire thread and I no longer believe that GMarshal is scum, If this puts me in the firing line so be it.

We shall start at the beginning then. Pretty much as soon as the game begins He starts his campaign against lurkers.

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On June 28 2011 11:54 GMarshal wrote:
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Lets get this show on the road then. Activity is not going to create itself, and we need to make sure we have a working game.

Basically allow me to start with this little tidbit. Lurkers, this is your first and final warning. I will *not* allow you to lurk. If you aren't going to be active you are *very* quickly not going to be alive anymore. Consider it my... promise... to you.

gtrsrs. Hi. Pull shit like you did in SNMMIV, where you essentially sabotaged the town by creating a horrible day 1 atmosphere and I will absolutely *relish* your death. I don't want to kill you, but if you threaten this towns chances at victory I will.

Players who want to be trolls. Same applies to you, I will not allow it, period, not happening, not on my watch.

We will win this, we will kill scum, and no one is going to keep that from happening as long as I have the power to impede it.

Any questions?

This is actually a pretty common tactic to spark discussion at the start of a game and is normally considered pro town in my experience. Preventing lurkers is nothing bad It just limits the number of options the Mafia has to escape lynching.

His next major post is pointing out a fatal mistake of 201

On June 28 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote:
On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first.

From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic.

This is the kind of stuff you REFRAIN from posting. If you think someone is soft claiming medic or DT or accidentally let slip their role then you DO NOT point it out.

The mafia might miss it, so its best if you don't call attention to it. By pointing it out you just painted a huge target on chaos13's back if he is town.


Why would he attack 201 about this if he was mafia? He would of just PM'd all of his mafia buddies and then worked on getting Chaos lynched / Killed

After this Marshal starts to work on creating a Pro Town atmosphere along with 206


On June 28 2011 14:38 GMarshal wrote:
A pro-town atmosphere is one in which it is possible to scumhunt and read the thread without having to wade through crap. Its explained in Ver's town guide, but basically it means no mud flinging, no beating dead horses, avoiding unjustified OMGUS and generally behaving as gentlemen towards each other. If we do this we can generate and use information, it will also encourage newer posters to post. Thats the theory at least ^_^

To achieve this don't random FoS, treat even stupid ideas with respect (shoot them down, but theres no need to say "God you moron, you suck" just shoot it down) and behave in a way that makes people *want* to post and listen to what you have to say.

Also that post you pointed out is also similar to my post in the first 4 min of Closed Casket Mafia . Its a stylistic choice, and I really like the pictures of the grim reaper (not to mention I have like 12 I had ready for CCM, but then I was killed... ;_;) . Plus I hate lurkers, and I needed a conversation starter, so I chose to talk about them.

Any other questions?


Once again mentioning lurkers to spark discussion while pointing to the Townie guides to try and help the newer players. Why would he give them help them and try to promote one of the easiest methods to scum hunt in.


We also had him supporting the LSB mechanic abusing strategy which could of sparked the end of mafia pretty easily has RoL allowed it. One of the most important facts to consider in his pro town behavior.


Finally I am going to bring up the List. While many people simply dismissed it as unimportant i Believe that it will be Crucial late game at working out which surviving "Veteran" players are still standing. And why. The Game will have these few veteran mafia alive at the end and we will come to need this list to hunt them down once we have lost our town veterans.

Also not to mention every mafia would HATE being on the Vet list causing them to subtly attack GMarshal getting him lynched early enough to see them into the late game without anyone bringing it up again.


On June 28 2011 13:53 GMarshal wrote:
On June 28 2011 13:30 chaos13 wrote:
On June 28 2011 13:24 GMarshal wrote:
On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first.


Why? What goal is this list trying to achieve? What use do you intend to put it to?

I mean if you give me a good justification I don't mind doing it, but it needs to have a purpose that helps the town, rather than cluttering space ^_^


If 5/7 of the experienced veteran players are dead by day 3/4 and the new or intermediate players are starting to die instead, it's a good indication you've got mafia and should really start examining those player's posts. It's a tool I use in every game that is generally quite effective. Normally I would just make one and keep it to myself, but I don't know a lot of the names here or the meta that goes along with me, so I would appreciate some input from someone who does


A list for you then. Its split into three levels. People I know to be experienced or good, people who are not quite vets, but have played before and know what they are doing and people who are new/have few games that showcase good play.

Vets
3. GMarshal (Hi!)
10. youngminii (long time player, usually very aggressive)
15. Jackal58 (endgame player, you are familiar with him, for those not familiar with him, in my experience he is not the best day1-2 player, but really excels when we hit day 5-6)
19. sandroba (read Sleeper Cell if you need a good reason why he is on here)
23. Palmar (In particular his scum play in SNMMII)
25. ~OpZ~ (oldtimer as well, I'm not aware of what his last notable game, because it predates me. I also lack meta on him)
26. LSB (A decent player, as town or scum he comes up with decent plans and tries to lead the town. Prone to powerplays as scum)
27. Mr. Wiggles (another excellent player, he makes very compelling organized posts, but often comes off as scummy even when town since he tends to rehash a lot of what people have said. He plays a better than average game as scum, see his win with Kavdragon in Insane Mafia 2)


Mid-tier players
1. DropBear - played some really solid games and is a strong player overall. He has no showings of singlehandedly dominating however, he may be misplaced here and be a candidate for Vet status.
2. sinani206 - played a couple games, not awful, but lacking a solid game to make a judgment of off
5. Cthsazsa - active contributing newbie, a little too trusting and willing to take people at their word. Much potential, interested to see where he goes. (Oh and I keep accidentally thinking he is a girl. Sorry -__-)
7. Kenpachi - likes to lurk, is good with a gun, but I have yet to see him play a game where he takes a solid leadership position
8. Lanaia - only seen her play in Insane Mafia 2 where she had a decent showing. Caught on to Kav's BS when the rest of the town missed it. She is really experienced on IRC mafia.
12. hiro protagonist - played a couple of games, did decently, I lack meta on him, as I don't think I've been in a game with him before.
13. Mig -same deal as hiro, no meta from me, played a few games.
14. Rean - Played more than hiro and mig, has a tendency to lurk (if PTP is a basis to judge on). Makes good calls in confusing situations
17. chaos13 - played a bunch here and away from here, but I lack meta on him
18. Eiii - experienced player who both lacks self confidence and has a tendency to lurk hardcore.
22. VisceraEyes -as hiro. Played a few games, nothing spectacular IIRC
24. Vain - as VE.
30. Varpulis - had a couple solid games, nothing massive, but solid. Hates lurkers, so a man after my own heart

new players (no meta on these, obviously)

4. gtrsrs
6. aprudds
9. Torqez
11. Hyaach
16. TheAwesomeAll
20. Navillus
21. Sinani201
28. syllogism
29. Drazerk

Again, my limited meta knowledge on these players and relative rankings. Please no one take offense as these are IMO.

This is where we finish discussing vet lists. The won't give anymore useful information and will allow others to fake contribute with useless lists. I posted this by request and it should NOT be considered a contribution, as scum can do this as easily as town.Again, no more vet lists



I no longer believe he is mafia and has displayed mainly Pro Town enthusiasm throughout the game, Lynching him would be a mistake when we have more scummy players lurking around.


This is his defending GM post. In all honesty, it's a pretty fair and honest assessment of GM. The only post like this you'll see from Draz.

He takes some flack following this post because he was supposedly researching Hiro when he came to this conclusion. What's strange about that is that he did NOT form an opinion on Hiro. His next post concerning hiro is...

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 29 2011 04:11 Drazerk wrote:
Ok Im going to flush out the hiding Hiro for now - He's not got any case against him and we need him to speak up more

But don't worry 206 I will not forget about you


What does this even mean? Does he give an opinion at all at this point? It reads like he thinks he's suspicious, but then calls him out to speak up more, indicating that he does NOT suspect him, and only wants his opinion. Cornfusing?

+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:46 Drazerk wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:39 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Drazerk gives me really strong strong scum vibes. Though at this point it doesnt make much sense anymore. Care to explain why you started to attack the sinani's? Hitting them doesnt make sense to me at all, they are playing anti town, but not scum. Everything pointed at GM at that point. Killing them seems a bit premature. so if drazerkcan explain that a bit more would be nice.
syllo, stop taking everything so personal, and stop arguing makes you look bad/scum also makes it hard for me to read you.
Cya in the morning guys, hope i wont be dead <3

If you look at my style of playing town I generally don't focus on the Main FoS as that is when mafia tend to pop out and make mistakes.

This time i had no opinion on Gm either way and I wanted to show some light on two scummy targets


Another patently confusing post from Drazerk. This time he says he has no opinion on GM, in spite of defending GM in a HUGE post earlier in the thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote:
Well looks like I am dead, At least when I am dead ill flip green Proving GM is innocent. Was bound to happen as I am always day 1 lynch suspect.

When I die you will be at a disadvantage but at least you will have a Guaranteed Townie. ( Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain )

I'm off to bed


Here's his "martyr" post he referenced earlier...cementing my scum read on him. He then attempts to tie himself to GM in a very clear and not-so-subtle way...by outright claiming such.


At this point, Draz goes into lurk mode and doesn't post anymore.

So in summary:

Draz tried to introduce several targets into the lynch docket, based on nothing. He backs off of actions that others call out as scummy, and makes horribly timed and terribly executed scum-moves to incriminate others. It is my hypothesis that Draz is tanking, and he attempted to tie himself to GM, so that when he flips red, GM will look bad.

##Vote: Drazerk
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#620
omigod someone else died as I was typing that. X( SCUUUUUUUUMM!!!!!!
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#625
While I'm not in the business of defending myself TYPICALLY, I will say that I was replaced into CCM, which Palmar will most assuredly confirm, has been taking up A LOT of my focus. As I said, it's not a good excuse and is entirely my fault...but it is what it is. Those guys are beast (excluding Palmar )

The case on Draz was in my own words and done in isolation from others' posts. If it falls in line with others' points against Draz, maybe consider that there's a reason for that. Use your head.
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#627
Cue Palmar tunnel. Every game I play with you is the same.

*sigh*

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#629
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June 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#722
Okay guys, I'm back. I've read through the thread and I've got to say, I'm pretty disappointed in the strength of the wagon against me.


First of all, my read on Drazerk stands...I don't care if you think I'm parroting other peoples' reads. I know that my reasons are valid, and I'm not going to try and say that others didn't say them first. Not only would that be a blatant lie, but in my opinion it doesn't matter one way or the other. What would you prefer I say "Oh, I agree with him." and leave it at that? I don't think so. Not only would you guys think that's EVEN MORE scummy, but that's not fun for me either. Part of the fun for me is making the case.

Secondly, Palmar appears to be pushing my lynch based on A) my inactivity in this game and B) my lack of tunneling him incessantly. The inactivity bit I can understand - my meta shows that I'm far more active as town than this game shows. But come on Palmar. You think I'm scummy when I tunnel you. You think I'm scummy when I don't. You like to say that part of my meta is that I tunnel you, but you know what this reeks of? YOU tunneling ME. You did it in PTP, you did it in CCM, you're doing it this game. I don't recall tunneling you in PTP. You know why? Because in PTP I didn't find you all-together scummy. Know why I'm not tunneling you this game? Because I don't find you all-together scummy. Get with the program sir.

Now, I stand by my vote on Drazrek. Nothing I've read has EVEN REMOTELY made him appear less scummy. Now he's tunneling the 206...for what? Wishywashiness? For being new at the game, something he should be well acquainted with himself? Give me a break, this guy is as scummy as they come.

I can't apologize enough for my inactivity...as I stated before, CCM was really kicking my ass last night, and now I'm risking getting fired to share this post with you fine people today. Don't lynch me. Lynch Drazrek. He's by far scummier than I am, and I'm willing to make a promise that if you spare me today, I WILL get back into this game and give it the attention it deserves.

Palmar, give a bro a chance, bro. ##Fistpound?
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#733
@GM

206 is playing pretty standard to his meta...any game I've seen him as town in, he claims having a hard time coming up with stuff to post, when he does, it typically parrots others' analysis and isn't EVER a strong stance one way or the other.

Drazerk I have no meta on, aside from his game in SNMMIV. He DID martyr in that game, but I notice that he didn't bring attention to the fact that it's one of his "strategies" in that game. I think him bringing up his OWN meta in an attempt to verify his town status REEKS of scum, and it should to everyone else too. Meta is only useful if the person using it notices it on their own. It's absolutely useless if pointed out by the accused, as you then have to question whether or not there are ulterior motives behind it.

Drazerk's play can be described as.....erratic. That much is for sure. But I lean more toward scum in his case mainly because of the whole martyr thing. I did that once, I found it was a terrible idea and is WHOLLY detrimental to my team. I can honestly say that I'd NEVER play that way again. It's like saying 'Fine, if you don't believe me, I'll just sabotage your numbers so you have less of a chance to win'....hidden under the guise of 'so you can confirm me one way or the other'. It's wrong, I consider it cheating, and the fact that he's saying that he does it all the time makes me want to lynch him even if he's town.

Also, he attacked you...and you're one of the towniest townies that ever towned a town, imho. You might be a little gung-ho against inactives, but on this forum, that's just a happy byproduct of having played and hosted a TON of games where inactives LOST town the game.

So there, in a nutshell, why Drazerk over 206. I think 206 is newb-town and I think Draz is newb-scum.
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#743
On June 30 2011 08:18 sandroba wrote:
Fuckballs, sinani's analysis on his alter ego is actually quite decent. O.O


I was literally JUST thinking that...and after I'd just said he never commits to a stance. -.-
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June 29 2011 23:37 GMT
#747
In light of 206 triumphant return, I will go back and reread 201's posts. I'm not really convinced, but since I'm catching flak for sticking to my guns against Drazerk, I'm willing to bend in the name of clearing my name.

Palmar, if you DARE say I'm scummy for doing so, so help me.....
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#755
*slowclap* Congratulations Palmar, you've successfully led a lynch of a townie. Your leadership skills are....astounding.

Oh, I guess before I die I should go ahead and claim.

I am a Detective, and I've had a guilty on Draz since I posted my analysis. I'm sorry that I had to come out like this, but you guys are about to make the biggest mistake of the game and I figured something had to be done.

For the record, this is why I've been inactive. This is literally the FIRST time I've been given a meaningful power-role that didn't involve dying, so I didn't want to fuck it up. And with the blue-sniping of XLII, I was scared SHITLESS to post. But I can assure you, Drazerk is guilty, and HE should be hanging today, not me.
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#762
@E3
I waited to see if I could convince you, and we're now in the no-shoot-zone. I feel my reasoning is justified.

@Palmar
Why am I not surprised?
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#764
I thought by test you meant let me hang anyway...my bad.

Can I get that ##Fistpound now?
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#767
@GM
Oh, well that makes sense...if a DT weren't already dead. I wish I could guarantee you guys have another, but...you know...I can't.
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#769
Ace's logic applies to D1 starts with Night kills...not a Real-Time setup with NO night-phase.

But hey, do whatever you want. I can rest easy now that you guys know the truth.
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#770
@Palmar
Well, maybe if you didn't PUSH me so hard in CCM....
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#773
What, and give myself away? NEVER! lol
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#785
And I'll totally submit to whomever you guys want me to check too. Whatever it takes...just KILL THAT SCUM!!!
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#806
At the risk of sounding scummy, I agree with Sandroba...I think our best chance at this point is protecting me if we have a medic that hasn't sent in their protect. Providing Draz flips red, that is. Which I feel confident he will...unless he's Miller <.< >.>..........shit what if he's miller?!?!
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#807
Nah, I stand by my analysis...if he were green, he wouldn't be playing the way he has been...
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June 30 2011 03:59 GMT
#836
I don't know guys, I don't think I like this kill GM talk. "The Ace Logic" of his DOES make sense in a game full of seasoned vets who know exactly how to lie to each other...which is probably the context in which Ace meant it. IMHO the logic doesn't quite apply to a Real-Time format due to instantaneous nature of kill-shots, but either way that's absolutely no reason to KILL GM.

I mean, we could check him...we don't know WHO is on the scum team, so we have no idea if he'd be the best player FOR godfather or not...right?
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June 30 2011 04:30 GMT
#857
Varpulis check sent in...hopefully I got it in faster than the rb did.
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June 30 2011 04:31 GMT
#858
I'd like to remind town that I have a lurker check available too...I had to act fast today, but keep that in mind for tomorrow.
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#861
That's what I meant about 'keep that in mind for tomorrow'
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#967
YEAH! Now I'm less useless! *flex* Just over an hour until my check comes back guys, stay tuned!
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June 30 2011 16:07 GMT
#968
Oh, more like a half hour, looking back.

If a roleblocker dies, does his target's action go through?
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#970
I actually DID check Varp, as I said. I considered checking someone else instead, but Varp is my target right now.
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#971
And almost as soon as I sent my check in, the person who suggested I check Varp died...just as an aside. Not saying they're connected...just making conversation.

I'm not scumhunting right now cause I'm about to eat breakfast and my check is about to come back...but I'm gonna go scumhunting as soon as I'm done with breakfastlunch.
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#982
Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent.

So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3.

I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3.

PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum.
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June 30 2011 17:06 GMT
#988
My only problem with that is that I'm marked for death anyway, on d3 or 4, so my reports can be either confirmed or ignored. Outting Varpulis' role will give Mafia more information than they already have...making their snipes more accurate. Luckily they haven't had the aim they had in XLII, and I'm not really willing to give them a sniper scope.

If Chaos' plan is acceptable to the rest of town, I'll submit to it, but only if it's agreed upon by the town.
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June 30 2011 21:51 GMT
#1031
I do not agree that GM is scum. I think he's too set on catching a bullet. I mean, he COULD be like, GF that's painted up to LOOK like a Vet, but I seriously doubt he'd gamble his life against

1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town,
2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him,
3) DT verifying his claim.

It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it.

I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that.
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June 30 2011 23:49 GMT
#1044
I will NOT advocate a GM lynch. I know you guys think he's scum, and I can see all the reasons for it...but I just don't think he'd be going to all the trouble if he were scum. The circumstances behind him pulling SIMILAR moves in previous games were completely different. I honestly think that in spite of how silly his methods sound, he's got town's best interest at heart. Anyone who argues otherwise simply has a different opinion on what's the most important for town.

In the meantime, I'm going to stick my vote on Kenpachi. He's A) on the lurker list. B) NOT contributing (see A), and C) coming in randomly with classics such as:

On July 01 2011 07:29 Kenpachi wrote:
Im going to hop the bandwagon if you dont mind.
##vote GMarshal
why? I agree with what people are saying right now.

That is all.


I agree with what people are saying right now.

Interestingly enough, people are saying ALL KINDS of things. Which things do you agree with? Which things do you NOT agree with? What are your thoughts on 206/supersoft? Why so lurky bro? Come play with us!
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June 30 2011 23:50 GMT
#1045
##Vote: Kenpachi
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 01:16 GMT
#1061
Calm down Palmar...he's trying.

If the medic protects GM then nothing is proven one way or the other. The idea is to send a bullet into his vest and for him to survive...thereby confirming his town status.

And as 201 says, to kill him if he's scum.

The medic will only complicate matters.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 02:25 GMT
#1067
GM, don't give these guys ammunition. If you're town, at least give everyone your thoughts on the stuff you know about. It's not like you've missed anything...just people calling for you on a pike....Vladimir style.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 05:19 GMT
#1092
HAH...that's the best thing ever. I was wondering who he targeted, and if he sent in his lurker target earlier. That's badass. WTG Varp

Seriously though, can we PLEASE consider using my lurker checks tomorrow? Chances are the GF isn't a lurker (unless it's GM...imagine if he replaces out as GF lmao), and clearly if Kenpachi is scum they could seriously be trying to lurk their way to victory, knowing we've been hesitant so far to fire into lurkers so far. If I didn't agree with chaos13 about there probably not being any vigs in the setup, I'd say I'm reconsidering open-season on lurkers.

At any rate, I can't think of a single reason why a vig would have killed Varpulis. Obviously (WIFOM notwithstanding) scum either killed Varp to push suspicion on me, or they don't want confirmed towies around. All I can say in my defense is that I was trying to protect him from scum by not revealing his role immediately. I apologize to town for outting him as innocent. I guess I should have checked someone else and told sandroba to stuff it...as I said, I'm new to the whole blue business.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 21:54 GMT
#1192
:O NOOOOOOOOO

That means I'm in all likelihood the last DT...no pressure or anything.

@syllo and everyone concerned about the timing of my Draz check

The fact of the matter is that I didn't SAVE my check, I checked him about an hour after I first could. The reasoning was based on meta, admittedly. Remember what I said about martyrs? I followed SNMMIV because SNMMII was my first game here and I bore witness to his little ploy in that game. I didn't like it then, in spite of him being town all along. I thought he might try the same nonsense in this game so I wanted to find out his alignment RIGHT off the bat. Not much of a reason, but there isn't much of a reason to do anything that early in the game...from what I gather, blues typically have to wait until after d1 to make any checks, which is AMPLE time to have sufficient reason to check someone.

Also, regarding my Kenpachi vote, I've played a couple of games with this guy and I've read some too...he's active when town, to the point of annoyance sometimes. I guess I just missed the guy. It was really just a pressure vote, but I felt it was justified because of his inactivity / presence on the lurker list. If he was still on the lurker list tomorrow, he was my #1 priority to check.

I'm reading over 206 and YM's posts now...I was leaning pretty town on YM before, so I'm starting with him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 22:41 GMT
#1200
I sent it an hour after actions were legal. I would have sent it immediately, but I went back and reread SNMMIV and was at work at the time, so I waited until I got home. It was....~ 2am...1:57 EDT. I didn't send it after his little flip-out, I sent it as soon as I got home the night the game started.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 23:12 GMT
#1232
GG guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 05 2011 04:39 GMT
#1715
Congrats town
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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